CBO confirms: ObamaCare with “doctor fix” will actually add billions to the deficit

posted at 6:07 pm on March 19, 2010 by Allahpundit

The exciting conclusion to yesterday’s post about what a shameless fraud the CBO numbers are. How do you slap a $940 billion pricetag on what’s actually a multitrillion-dollar bill? Well, as we’ve seen, the first thing you do is make sure not to start the program until almost halfway through CBO’s window of time for measuring how much it’ll cost. That cuts a trillion or two right off the top. But what if that still leaves you with budget deficits, thus crippling your sub-moronic talking point about how this massive new federal entitlement will save money over time?

Simple. You break the bill up and pass one of the expensive parts separately later. Here’s how a supposed $118 billion reduction in the deficit becomes another case of Obama bloat:

You asked about the total budgetary impact of enacting the reconciliation proposal (the amendment to H.R. 4872), the Senate-passed health bill (H.R. 3590), and the Medicare Physicians Payment Reform Act of 2009 (H.R. 3961). CBO estimates that enacting all three pieces of legislation would add $59 billion to budget deficits over the 2010–2019 period.

Under current law, Medicare’s payment rates for physicians’ services will be reduced by about 21 percent in April 2010 and by an average of about 2 percent per year for the rest of the decade. H.R. 3961 would increase those payment rates by 1.2 percent in 2010 and would restructure the sustainable growth rate mechanism beginning in 2011. Those changes would result in significantly higher payment rates for physicians than those that would result under current law. CBO estimates that enacting H.R. 3961, by itself, would cost about $208 billion over the 2010–2019 period. (That estimate reflects the enactment of two short-term extension acts, which lowered the cost in 2010 by about $2 billion compared with CBO’s estimate of November 4, 2009.)…

CBO estimates that enacting H.R. 3961 together with those two bills would add $59 billion to budget deficits over the 2010–2019 period. That amount is about $10 billion less than the figure that would result from summing the effects of enacting the bills separately. The $10 billion difference occurs primarily because H.R. 3590 and the reconciliation proposal would modify how the government’s payments to Medicare Advantage plans are set.

Still waiting to find out that if that memo urging Democrats not to talk about “doc fix” is real or not, but you can see why it’s good advice either way. Not only are they hiding another $208 billion in costs, but their dishonesty in passing doc fix separately will cost another $10 bil that could be avoided by passing everything together. Except, of course, that trying to pass everything together would send “fiscally conservative” Democrats fleeing for the hills — not because they care about a trillion-plus pricetag, but because they care that you might care. Or maybe they don’t even care about that, given the way the votes are falling today. Add Suzanne Kosmas to the roll of the shame.

More to come tonight, no doubt, in a very special edition of the Friday evening news dump.

Update: Oh look, some more hidden costs discovered by CBO. Who’s up for another $50 billion on the hook just to administer this thing?

In its March 11, 2010, cost estimate for H.R. 3590, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA), as passed by the Senate, CBO indicated that it has identified at least $50 billion in specified and estimated authorizations of discretionary spending that might be involved in implementing that legislation. The authority to undertake such spending is not provided in H.R. 3590; it would require future action in appropriation bills. The attached table provides additional information about those authorizations.

Discretionary costs under PPACA would arise from the effects of the legislation on several federal agencies and on a number of new and existing programs subject to future appropriation. Those discretionary costs fall into three general categories…

Update: This is all contingent, of course, upon the Democrats actually passing doctor fix later. Oh, hey look — the AMA, which supports doc fix, just endorsed ObamaCare! Coincidencemania!


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OT – Lerner is back in the hot seat.

http://www.c-span.org/

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 4:03 PM

it would take some serious leaps and bounds

Good thing Christie doesn’t have to leap or …

/snark

VibrioCocci on May 22, 2013 at 4:06 PM

I hope that Christie trips, falls on his back, flailing his little arms and legs can’t turn over to get up and bakes to a huge ash heap in the sun. As for his dem challenger … I hope she’s under him when he falls.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 22, 2013 at 4:06 PM

I hope Christie wins reelection as governor.

And stays in New Jersey.

MikeknaJ on May 22, 2013 at 4:07 PM

He’ll eat her alive. (oops–I mean, he’s sure to win handily..)

SailorMark on May 22, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Tough choice for New Jerseytonianites, elect the communist or elect the unknown Buono.

Bishop on May 22, 2013 at 4:10 PM

The bigger they are, the harder they fall…

Rational Thought on May 22, 2013 at 4:12 PM

I hope that Christie trips, falls on his back, flailing his little arms and legs can’t turn over to get up and bakes to a huge ash heap in the sun. As for his dem challenger … I hope she’s under him when he falls.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 22, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Yes, and … well … I might add … uh, um …

Yeah, I got nothing- you about summed it up.

M240H on May 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM

Is she Injun?

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM

So, New jersey, ya got Bouno running as a Dem, got Christie running as a Dem-Lite…who ya gonna put out there as a Conservative?

coldwarrior on May 22, 2013 at 4:15 PM

I could care less if Christie loses as a matter of fact I hope he does. He is far more damaging to Conservatives as a Republican foil than as a one-term non-sitting governor.

Conan on May 22, 2013 at 4:15 PM

I remember once thinking Christie was on my side politically.

DanMan on May 22, 2013 at 4:17 PM

The only one who could have defeated Christie was Cory Booker, now Christie will have a cake walk.

tbrickert on May 22, 2013 at 4:20 PM

I remember once thinking Christie was on my side politically.

DanMan on May 22, 2013 at 4:17 PM

You might be able to name five people in Congress who are.

beatcanvas on May 22, 2013 at 4:21 PM

If only they could both lose.

Doomberg on May 22, 2013 at 4:21 PM

She needs to do something to offset the Governor’s
Truck Tire around his Gut….

..maybe a tattoo on her Azz cheek….

ToddPA on May 22, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Soaring property taxes? Christie’s being attacked from the right. By a Democrat. Guess I’m not really surprised.

Fenris on May 22, 2013 at 4:28 PM

She looks like she could be Nancy Pelosi’s sister –

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/02/04/eye-on-politics-why-does-barbara-buono-want-to-be-n-j-governor/

rickv404 on May 22, 2013 at 4:30 PM

The bigger they are, the harder they fall…

Rational Thought on May 22, 2013 at 4:12 PM

It’s not for nothing that they call it ‘morbid’ obesity. Probably her best chance of winning and it’s literally not a bad chance.

Fenris on May 22, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Do you want to bet that she can out Democrat Christie !

savage24 on May 22, 2013 at 4:31 PM

If Buono looks like she has any chance, I’ll contribute to her campaign. The only “Reoublicans” I hate more than the Fat Man are Rubio, McCain, Miss Lucy and Flake.

bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 4:33 PM

She looks like a younger Nancy Pelosi.

BacaDog on May 22, 2013 at 4:35 PM

The only one who could have defeated Christie was Cory Booker, now Christie will have a cake walk.

tbrickert on May 22, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Was “cake walk” an intended pun?

bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 4:35 PM

A younger cross-eyed version of Pelosi…

PatriotRider on May 22, 2013 at 4:37 PM

I hope Issa has the Sgt. at Arms ready to lock Lerner up at the next hearing…

PatriotRider on May 22, 2013 at 4:39 PM

OT:
KMOV fires Larry Conners for facebook post.

He left the reservation and now he is getting burned.

tom daschle concerned on May 22, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Is she Injun?

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM

Racist! Made me LMAO!

kirkill on May 22, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Good,let the dems spend their money on a race they can’t win…

right2bright on May 22, 2013 at 4:44 PM

On the surface, Buono looks like a much more appealing option than Christie – seriously, how can anyone bring themselves to vote for Christie again?

Pork-Chop on May 22, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Chris Christie’s challenger is going for it with a million-dollar ad buy in New Jersey

Fat chance.

James on May 22, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Stapuff Marshmellow Man the gun grabbing scheistkoff.

Yea, OrderedPair that’s a great conclusion. (@ 4:06PM)

If he falls over he can’t be used by the Manure Spreading Media and shilled to the R’s as a viable canidate for POTUS in 2016.
Gawd help us if he becomes a distraction/diversion in the primaries.

Missilengr on May 22, 2013 at 4:55 PM

On the other hand, she does have the benefit of being a Democrat.

No small thing in New Jersey.

There Goes the Neighborhood on May 22, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Is she Injun?

Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM

only if it helps her.

aceinstall on May 22, 2013 at 5:20 PM

The only one who could have defeated Christie was Cory Booker, now Christie will have a cake walk.

tbrickert on May 22, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Was “cake walk” an intended pun?

bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 4:35 PM

he doesnt look like he lets cake walk past

aceinstall on May 22, 2013 at 5:22 PM

i hope Christie wins reelection as governor.

And stays in New Jersey.

MikeknaJ on May 22, 2013 at 4:07 PM

100% yes.

talking_mouse on May 22, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Exit question: What would be the harm if she won?

faraway on May 22, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Exit question: What would be the harm if she won?

faraway on May 22, 2013 at 5:24 PM

What difference, at this point, does it make anyway?

kirkill on May 22, 2013 at 5:27 PM

run a 3rd party, split the vote, can them both.

dmacleo on May 22, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Christie will eat her for lunch (both literally and figuratively). ;-)

tommy71 on May 22, 2013 at 5:59 PM

That race, current polls notwithstanding, will be decided by five points or less. And likely in favor of Bouno

SAMinVA on May 22, 2013 at 6:33 PM

She looks to much like Lois Lerner for low information voters to tell the difference.

meci on May 22, 2013 at 6:51 PM

I can’t believe I’m going to stick up for christie but he’s taken on the unions and for that he has my gratitude.

As for his stance on gun control, the muslim outreach situation, the higher property taxes (which is a total joke because the tax is proportional to the price of the house so that means prices of homes in NJ are high meaning people want to live there – supply/demand/bernanke pumping up miney supply and driving down interest rates for flippers to come and sell old homes for higher prices BLAME THE REALTORS not christie), his other soft marginal republican attributes which I wish someone would list but most importantly, he needs to be in there for the 2020 census to redistrict and make more red districts (if possible). Does Jersey have term limits? If so then he’s out before 202o anyways but if not, keep him in just for redistricting alone.

athenadelphi on May 22, 2013 at 7:05 PM

I’m not particularly interested in Chris Christie’s political fortunes at this point. He’ll get no support from me. Maybe Barry will throw him an endorsement.

Kensington on May 22, 2013 at 7:09 PM

Maybe I’ll give her a nice obama embrace in the form of a campaign contribution.

voiceofreason on May 22, 2013 at 7:55 PM

As your governor, I’ll fight to give every New Jersey child the same chance I got.”

Is she claiming she’s pro-life? Give every child a chance at life (the same chance she got)?

Bet no one in Joisey notices the dichotomy.

Squiggy on May 22, 2013 at 8:08 PM

She’s probably more Conservative than the Fatboi.

HondaV65 on May 22, 2013 at 8:14 PM

I’m not particularly interested in Chris Christie. Maybe Barry BAMSTAHHHHHHH!!!!! YOU DA MANNNNNNNNNNN BAMMMMMMMY BABYYYY!!! LOVE YA BARRY OL BUDDY OL PALLLLLLL!!!!!! YAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kon on May 7:09 PM

cableguy615 on May 22, 2013 at 8:15 PM