Caterpillar: ObamaCare will cost us $100 million in first year
posted at 12:15 pm on March 19, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
How will ObamaCare impact American business? Democrats insist that the bill will help stimulate the economy and create jobs. Caterpillar, the manufacturer of heavy construction equipment, tells a different story:
Caterpillar Inc. said the health-care overhaul legislation being considered by the U.S. House would increase the company’s health-care costs by more than $100 million in the first year alone.
In a letter Thursday to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and House Republican Leader John Boehner of Ohio, Caterpillar urged lawmakers to vote against the plan “because of the substantial cost burdens it would place on our shareholders, employees and retirees.”
Caterpillar, the world’s largest construction machinery manufacturer by sales, said it’s particularly opposed to provisions in the bill that would expand Medicare taxes and mandate insurance coverage. The legislation would require nearly all companies to provide health insurance for their employees or face large fines.The Peoria-based company said these provisions would increase its insurance costs by at least 20 percent, or more than $100 million, just in the first year of the health-care overhaul program.
Last year, Barack Obama pitched his stimulus plan at Caterpillar’s main facility in East Peoria, Illinois, promising that the Porkulus bill would prompt Caterpillar to rehire workers recently laid off from the plant. The CEO, Jim Owens, said that wouldn’t happen for a long time — and then had to lay off more workers the next month. It looks like Owens won’t get a Christmas card from the White House this year, either.
Even if one accepted the reforms in ObamaCare as necessary, the timing is flat-out awful. The economy has barely begun growing again, but not at a rate that creates jobs. One reason employers haven’t invested in expansion is because of the pricing signals sent from ObamaCare. If the penalties and taxes for employment cost Caterpillar $100 million in the first year, that’s money that won’t go to hiring more people. In fact, it will provide a big incentive to pare down their employment rolls even further to avoid paying the taxes and penalties.
And where will those jobs go? As employment becomes more expensive in the US, companies will transfer more manufacturing overseas. That’s not exactly brain surgery.









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As if…
thomasaur on March 19, 2010 at 12:56 PM
Get ready to hear the sound of what’s left of America’s industries moving on out!
tnarch on March 19, 2010 at 12:56 PM
It was Christ who told his followers that if a soldier tells you to carry his pack one mile, you should carry it two. (Roman soldiers could legally conscript passers by to carry their packs while they were marching, but only for one mile.)
MarkTheGreat on March 19, 2010 at 12:56 PM
Just another person who prefers Muslums over LDS
bluegrass on March 19, 2010 at 12:44 PM
And what makes you think that it his religion, and not his policies that turn her off?
MarkTheGreat on March 19, 2010 at 12:50 PM
- – - -
Just comparing his policies that that of the great devil in power now… He’s taken a lot from me but he can’t take away my ability to think for myself…
bluegrass on March 19, 2010 at 12:57 PM
*snicker*
MeatHeadinCA on March 19, 2010 at 12:57 PM
Up to this point, I’ve had zero interest in attacking you on this blog, you have an absolute right to express your opinion even though I tend to disagree with you about 90% of the time. Having said that, the statement listed above is simply delusional. Discussing job losses is a loser’s game? Good grief. You don’t think that businesses will shed jobs once this bill passes? The small business owners that I come in contact will all have plans to shed full and part-time positions once this crap bill passes. I’m not sitting here hoping that you believe me either, because I don’t care at this point. It will happen. It will happen here in Connecticut, and it will happen all across America. At this point, anyone who DOESN’T believe that America will hemmorage jobs because of the passage of HC is completely in denial.
joejm65 on March 19, 2010 at 12:58 PM
China
PatriotRider on March 19, 2010 at 12:58 PM
I’m still trying to figure out why you believe Ann opposes Romney because he’s LDS.
MarkTheGreat on March 19, 2010 at 12:58 PM
I wonder if Caterpillar’s President is re-thinking his Obama endorsement right about now?
You sleep with dogs…
orlandocajun on March 19, 2010 at 12:59 PM
A losers game is putting someone in power with a sympathy vote.
bluegrass on March 19, 2010 at 12:59 PM
Every Socialist government relies on taking children away from their parents for years of indoctrination.
There have been many battles, but only one war. And it wasn’t lost the day Barack Hussein Obama was elected; it was lost the day the federal government took over America’s primary education system.
logis on March 19, 2010 at 12:59 PM
I love this.
Obama is something else. As a student of all the great 60′s radicals he has absolutely succeeded in exaclty his goal in really just a little over a year. Incredible really.
I think is that King Narcissis is awesome at creating chaos. The is Cloward/Piven to a perfect degree. However I think they fall apart after the chaos is created and I think it is because the original idea was chaos to overwhelm the government. But they create the chaos and they are the government. I think there is a glitch there that these 60′s hippies haven’t quite figured out.
ORconservative on March 19, 2010 at 12:59 PM
Loving hateful behavior is about as un-Christian as it’s possible to be.
logis on March 19, 2010 at 12:51 PM
MeatHeadinCA on March 19, 2010 at 12:59 PM
Jeez. Don’t you get it? That guy at CAT is just like you dolts in the public. As Pelosi said “I like numbers”; “They are very precise”
You see, that guy at CAT just can’t see the savings. I mean, not right now. Pelosi said “we have to pass the bill so you can see what’s in it”.
The savings are in there. Just like Prego! We have to trust them. Obama went over all of this a million times. What does some heavy equipment guy know about numbers anyway?
Those guys on the Hill and in this administration have bigger brains and they went to really, really expensive Ivy League schools. They didn’t play with toy trucks when they were little kids. They read Manifestos and stuff!
Don’t worry America….we are in good hands. Everything will be all right. Now go back to work. Whoops, I mean, go back to looking for work!
Opposite Day on March 19, 2010 at 1:00 PM
Absolutely wrong! He knows exactly what he’s doing and will take every advantage of the coming chaos.
ClanDerson on March 19, 2010 at 1:01 PM
And what do those countries have which makes it so much more affordable than the US? Universal health service plans.
Caterpillar would have a huge increase anyway since that is what insurance provider is doing anyway.
lexhamfox on March 19, 2010 at 1:01 PM
What do you think Catepillar will do when their expenses go up by $100million? They are going to first cut costs wherever they can, and that means marginal jobs that they have been holding onto in hopes that the economy turns around, are gone. Secondly they will cut wages were they can. Thirdly they will raise prices, which will cause their sales to fall, meaning they will have even more workers to get rid of.
MarkTheGreat on March 19, 2010 at 1:02 PM
Simple solution for Catepillar:
LAYOFF UNION WORKERS!!
LAYOFF UNION WORKERS!!
LAYOFF UNION WORKERS!!!
galtg on March 19, 2010 at 1:03 PM
Man, you are good at getting out the DNC talking points.
Are you actually stupid enough to believe that universal health care has cut costs, anywhere???
MarkTheGreat on March 19, 2010 at 1:04 PM
Do the new-hire tax breaks apply to off-shore workers hired by US-owned companies?
How many Chinese laborers can you hire for $100 million? All of them?
BobMbx on March 19, 2010 at 1:06 PM
And layoff anyone with a Hope-n-Change bumper sticker… it’s only fair. This is apparently the change they voted for.
MeatHeadinCA on March 19, 2010 at 1:07 PM
They. Don’t. Care. If it was up to this group in Washington the only jobs would be government jobs. They will let the Republicans figure out how to build wealth when they take over again. What they are about now is setting up the system to “spread the wealth around” once the Republicans build the wealth. Is there anybody in a leadership position in DC who has actually HAD a job not paid for by taxpayers?
jdp629 on March 19, 2010 at 1:08 PM
Gee,
I can’t IMAGINE, how Caterpiller, and all the other industries, will make up the difference,
can you?
franksalterego on March 19, 2010 at 1:09 PM
As evidence of Anns’ thoughtful statement, we need to look no farther than Michigan. No losers up there, eh?
The jobs up there are so good, the factories are able to shutdown for years at a time, allowing the employees to take vacations, go to school, or whatever they choose to do during the break.
I double garuantee you….there are no layoffs in Michigan….None!
BobMbx on March 19, 2010 at 1:09 PM
Concentrate on breathing. You’re not built to both breathe and think.
Chuck Schick on March 19, 2010 at 1:10 PM
Actually the correct answer is: lower corporate tax rates.
jdp629 on March 19, 2010 at 1:10 PM
Maybe,
The MARKET for Caterpillars will grow by $100 Million.
heh,heh,heh
franksalterego on March 19, 2010 at 1:11 PM
All those tyrants who tower above us
Those who give us the smack of their rod
Soon now we will give them the gutter
We will give them the judgment of God!
PercyB on March 19, 2010 at 1:11 PM
I hope everyone who supports the left, whether or not he voted for BHO, is happy with what the dems have done to this nation.
I hope you’re looking at what they have done and are happy with yourself.
madmonkphotog on March 19, 2010 at 1:12 PM
You had to make me do it, right?
Dear Employees:
As the CEO of this organization, I have resigned myself to the fact that Barrack Obama is our President and that our taxes and government fees will increase in a BIG way. To compensate for these increases, our prices would have to increase by about 10%. But since we cannot increase our prices right now due to the dismal state of the economy, we will have to lay off sixty of our employees instead. This has really been bothering me since I believe we are family here and I didn’t know how to choose who would have to go.
So, this is what I did. I walked through our parking lots and found sixty ‘Obama’ bumper stickers on our employees’ cars and have decided these folks will be the ones to let go. I can’t think of a more fair way to approach this problem. They voted for change…… I gave it to them.
I will see the rest of you at the annual company picnic.
THE BOSS
Knucklehead on March 19, 2010 at 1:14 PM
I don’t know about that….there’s a new law that says you can’t put a caterpillar and a terrorist in the same box box anymore, and that’s driving down demand.
Oh wait…you’re talking about the really big yellow ones…
BobMbx on March 19, 2010 at 1:14 PM
What does this say about me, when I actually UNDERSTAND Joe Biden ?? Remember? He SAID some of the first things that O would be doing wouldn’t LOOK like the right things to do, but trust them !?!?!
Searching for a link.
pambi on March 19, 2010 at 1:15 PM
The ones for eating that is.
MarkTheGreat on March 19, 2010 at 1:19 PM
You’re underestimating Obama. (Or overestimating, depending on how you look at it.) I met dozens of Hillaries and dozens of Obamas in my embarrassingly long academic career. They are all stamped out of plastic, but from two completely different molds.
Hillary, Reid, Pelosi, et al; they are all over-aged hippies. But Obama is not. Trinity was started at the same time, the same place and for the same reason as Nation of Islam. Obama spent his entire adult life studying Black Liberation Theology; not as a mere practitioner, but within the very innermost circles.
Obama and his acolytes believe in destroying White America, and that IS their endgame. After that, all their rhetoric devolves into a bunch of gibberish about “Giant Mother Wheel Spaceships” and “Chickens Coming Home To Roost.” That’s where their plans stop and their faith takes over: Whatever comes after the destruction is certain to be (somehow) wonderful, but it’s out of their hands.
logis on March 19, 2010 at 1:20 PM
The keystone of my doctrine is its conception of the State, of its essence, its functions, and its aims. For it the State is absolute, individuals and groups relative.
- Barackito Obamalini
MB4 on March 19, 2010 at 1:20 PM
On the bright side, Sarah Palin’s chances of beating Øbama in 2012 just jumped into double digits.
Kafir on March 19, 2010 at 1:22 PM
So, lemme’ see if I got this straight…
To make up the difference, Caterpillar lays off workers.
Production falls.
Less is paid in taxes.
Federal Revenue falls.
This sounds like a really, REALLY good plan.
Let the chaos begin.
franksalterego on March 19, 2010 at 1:24 PM
My heart sank when I read this (not for CAT because they get what they deserve after their show with Obama last year). My hubby works for a large company who is not laying anyone off – yet. NO raises across the board either. A lady told Obama a similar story (except she had been laid off and couldn’t find another job) at one of his rallies, but that wasn’t a story to make the news.
truetexan on March 19, 2010 at 1:25 PM
Exactly. There is a strong racial component to what is going on. It’s all about ‘getting even.’ White people haven’t paid the debt in full, so they are going to continue to be punished. Just watch how this all plays out.
Cody1991 on March 19, 2010 at 1:25 PM
logis on March 19, 2010 at 1:20 PM
Thanks for that. I agree but the problem, for Obama, as I see it, is like with the Caterpillar situation, he has 3 years left and I’m assuming he wants a 2nd term. He is well on the way to destroying white America. What does he do with the ruins? I understand he thinks that is not his problem, but it is.
ORconservative on March 19, 2010 at 1:28 PM
Yeh well,
Whites are much better situated to survive, than blacks.
So,
Bring it.
franksalterego on March 19, 2010 at 1:31 PM
I -knew- there was a reason why Europe always has higher unemployment rates than the US.
lorien1973 on March 19, 2010 at 1:35 PM
You’re funny, especially for not being able to recognize differences in quality.
Those jobs will go to the likes of Mexico. Ever needed to use a federal hospital in Mexico, if not, save yourself the experience and watch the “Saw” movies instead.
Bishop on March 19, 2010 at 1:37 PM
(1)
Simple solution for Catepillar:
LAYOFF UNION WORKERS!!
LAYOFF UNION WORKERS!!
LAYOFF UNION WORKERS!!!
galtg on March 19, 2010 at 1:03 PM
Another suggestion for Caterpillar.
Hire only illegal aliens to walk the picket lines to take their place.
(2) “Serious” note – for Ed, & anyone else with knowledge about the medical device industry…
Heard last weekend from a friend in Minnesota, who works for a company which subcontracts for Medtronic.
Apparently, they are already working on contingency plans to pick up and move out to SE Asia (Singapore?) – and are encouraging their subcontractors to do the same.
Imagine, to feel that it would be CHEAPER, to move all operations OUT OF THE COUNTRY, take employees with, and train new employees to fill jobs – all in another country…
If true:
1. MN will lose a lot of high tech jobs.
2. MN will lose a lot of tax revenue.
3. MN state taxes for other companies and the general state residents will also go up… especially if a DFL moron gets elected as Governor when Pawlenty leaves.
4. Other businesses will leave the state.
Its a win win for Medtronic. They may not get shellshocked by Obamacare. They will find plenty of highly & well trained engineers from India, Pakistan, China & Japan to take slots not filled with the move.
Anyone else hearing about this in MN? Ed?
Danny on March 19, 2010 at 1:38 PM
You misread the comments. The same thing is happening in Europe. By ignoring massive illegal aliens pouring over the border, not only will whites be reduced, but so will blacks. Blacks and whites have been inseparable, though at times conflicted, from the beginning of this country.
I disagree with the commenters to the extent that it’s really not racially motivated, but designed to weaken the power base. It just so happens “white” is the predominant power base in Europe and America.
darwin on March 19, 2010 at 1:39 PM
I applaud Caterpillar for speaking up. And I HOPE they move production overseas. The American worker doesn’t deserve a great company like this if they’re going to support this A-hole in the WH with his dreams of socialism. I hope many more companies decide that it’s just too damned expensive to do business here and pull up stakes. I know I would, if I could afford it. Instead, this will make me cut jobs, which will force me to weed out small customers, costing me money, forcing me to lay off more people when there isn’t work for them, then eventually driving me out of business. That should be just the prescription for an ailing economy.
RWLA on March 19, 2010 at 1:41 PM
I hope every company that lays off due to this tells the employee the reason directly.
Kafir on March 19, 2010 at 1:41 PM
I’m optimistic. I think it’s the end story.
I really do.
AnninCA on March 19, 2010 at 1:42 PM
Medtronic is a good company for the device I’m familar with. Go for it Medtronic!
ORconservative on March 19, 2010 at 1:42 PM
On a related note, did anyone see Dennis Kucinich on Stossel last night? The man is completely clueless on why people no longer want to move their businesses to Cleveland.
Kafir on March 19, 2010 at 1:43 PM
Did anyone see the riots in Greece?
I’m afraid that’s the real result of socialism, when there’s no money.
AnninCA on March 19, 2010 at 1:44 PM
Perhaps one Conservative platform should be the following line from Field of Dreams…
“Oh… You’re from the sixties! Back to the sixties! No place for you in the future! Peace, love, dope… now get the hell out of here!”
Danny on March 19, 2010 at 1:44 PM
Here’s what I’m saying…
It’s an inescapable fact,
the “poor” are mostly black.
In a rotting economy, it’s ALWAYS the “poor” who get hit the hardest.
franksalterego on March 19, 2010 at 1:45 PM
Knucklehead on March 19, 2010 at 1:14 PM
Classic.
Danny on March 19, 2010 at 1:47 PM
I don’t agree. I think the percentages are about the same.
It’s just pretty cut-and-dried.
AnninCA on March 19, 2010 at 1:48 PM
Nope! Kucinich admitted the perk he got. A promise that single payer is coming soon. They just need to pass this crap now. It really is just the beginning. Then comes crap and tax, immigration, and God knows what else. I hope you enjoy your computer now, because if the Dems railroad full speed ahead as they threaten to do, we won’t be able to afford to turn on lights, let alone a computer.
capejasmine on March 19, 2010 at 1:49 PM
I think, maybe, you should check the unemployment numbers.
franksalterego on March 19, 2010 at 1:50 PM
Picture parody: Caterpillar Inc. Expected to Downsize After ObamaCare Costs Company Over $100 Million in Just First Year of Program
Mervis Winter on March 19, 2010 at 1:51 PM
…And, the demographics.
franksalterego on March 19, 2010 at 1:52 PM
I do relinquish any pretense of control over the direction of the next generation.
I’ll vote my own interests, which is opposed to this direction.
However, I’m also not about to worry about future generations while they cheer Obama on in pep rallies. They want this new direction?
Fine.
I think playing the role of naysayer is a loser’s game. The “kids” like it, let em’ pay for it.
I’m sort of a hardcore “tough-love” type.
It’s their taxes at this stage in my life. I vote according to what benefits them.
I think I’ll stop doing so and just vote my own self-interest and smile.
AnninCA on March 19, 2010 at 1:52 PM
Uh … no. It’s going to get much worse. When it does, and the victim classes don’t receive their expects benefits, stay off the streets and be sure you have protection.
darwin on March 19, 2010 at 1:53 PM
Yeah, their timing is great.
Would have been nice to hear from business when it would have helped, before this idiot Obama and all his Democrats got elected.
With the help of barrels full of money from Wall Street and corporations.
Glad to have them on board at the very last moment though.
NoDonkey on March 19, 2010 at 1:53 PM
OK
darwin on March 19, 2010 at 1:53 PM
Only if people like this move.
I think there’s just as much chance that people will truly absolutely rebel against this “first step.”
We’ll see. Obama was right about one thing. He said, clearly, it’s up to the real polls.
He issued the bottom line challenge.
Win the elections.
Or give it up.
(And I add, please give me someone other than Romney.)
AnninCA on March 19, 2010 at 1:54 PM
I’m optimistic. I think it’s the end story.
I really do.
AnninCA on March 19, 2010 at 1:42 PM
I think you are a pain in the azz. I really do.
NJ Red on March 19, 2010 at 1:55 PM
Oh darwin, you’re actually more optimitistic than me.
I have no illusions than the class level which relies upon drug sales/guns/gangs have a single bone in their bodies that thinks about health care for “those they love.”
You must be delustional.
That class is addicted, self-centered, and couldn’t care less about their off-spring’s health.
AnninCA on March 19, 2010 at 1:57 PM
“AnninCA on March 19, 2010 at 1:48 PM
I think, maybe, you should check the unemployment numbers.”
————————-
Allow me to help Ann out with that research.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=unemployment+by+race
deltanine on March 19, 2010 at 1:57 PM
Not one for facts much are you?
LSUMama on March 19, 2010 at 1:58 PM
What? I’m telling you they’re going to riot when they don’t get their stuff and to buy a gun.
darwin on March 19, 2010 at 1:59 PM
we are already there dipsh!t
daesleeper on March 19, 2010 at 1:59 PM
I’m just practical.
Nancy has the votes.
And the Dems are going to have about a week of celebrating how “hard” this was.
My own take on politics?
Never forget. The other side ALWAYS has another play.
Ditto for this.
Never forget. The GOP can and will turn this around, with a bit of smarts.
But do find someone other than Romney, please.
That guy is nearly walking dead, in my opinion.
AnninCA on March 19, 2010 at 2:00 PM
The result of socialism is always, there’s no money.
MarkTheGreat on March 19, 2010 at 2:00 PM
OK, the most amusing part of today is the responses to Ann.
ORconservative on March 19, 2010 at 2:00 PM
She needs to re-locate reality first.
MarkTheGreat on March 19, 2010 at 2:01 PM
And, when the Black Community is singing the blues, about how bad it is, it’ll still be the White-man’s fault.
Nevermind, Barrrack-Obama, and his Fellow Travelers, are the ones who stole the last of their economic freedom.
franksalterego on March 19, 2010 at 2:12 PM
That’s because you do not understand business…
See what is happening to your beautiful Calif regarding manufacturing?
That is nothing compared to what this will do to commerce. Just when we are on the verge of finally turning the corner (after Obama’s disastrous fiscal policies)…they are going to do this.
Our capacity to build, innovate, create, will be destroyed with this.
right2bright on March 19, 2010 at 2:29 PM
Most excellent point Ed.
ernesto on March 19, 2010 at 2:35 PM
Everything you buy will be going up with this plan.
Consider the grocery store. At the typical store with 80 employees, the cost of this plan will increase the price you pay by 10-15% for just the store owner to pay the increased costs. This effect cascades up and down the entire supplier lineup.
Highplains on March 19, 2010 at 2:42 PM
No way. Think about it: the average American can go decades with no health care. But we need food, or we will ALL die.
Health care is a pure luxury. Food is an absolute necessity. Once the governent takes that industry over, it won’t cost any money — just ration cards, and the government can print as many of them as they want.
logis on March 19, 2010 at 3:01 PM
Not long ago I worked for a company that supplied items to Caterpillar in Australia. The GFC hit them very hard, and the Australian operation was/is under immense pressure to reduce costs or else it will be shut down and manufacturing will be consolidated in Brazil.
What Obama and the Dems do with healthcare and the debt affects people around the world. Literally.
I get amused when I read threads by AnninCA and others who think that most corporations will be ok after costs are raised thanks to nationalized healthcare and the tax increases that will flow from it. I wish I lived in such a fairytale world, but unfortunately I work in positions where I see the concrete results of poor US fiscal policy on companies.
These days I believe hardcore leftists could actually care less about how badly such statist political policies will affect their constituents in terms of reduced job opportunities, so long as they can grow their power over people to reduce individual choices and suck more tax dollars out of them in the process.
After all, the consistent message such people give by their actions, regardless of what country or political party affiliation they may claim, is that they know better and we do not, so they must legislate our choices for us and take our wealth so that they can continue to tell us how to live.
I believe it is people like this who feast on human misery because it keeps them in power and they benefit from it.
In other words, they act like royalty of old and believe themselves to be entitled to all the spoils of caring for the rest of us serfs…
Wanderlust on March 19, 2010 at 3:04 PM
Does the CBO score account for 15-20% unemployment? The more people out of work, the fewer the tax dollars sent to states and federal governments.
Running errands today, I heard three people talk about layoffs and businesses cutting hours. THREE seperate mfg/businesses. Wow. It’s gonna get ugly.
TN Mom on March 19, 2010 at 3:34 PM
May have been said upthread, but let’s bulldoze Obama’s agenda.
cs89 on March 19, 2010 at 3:47 PM
And the funny thing is, they are getting even with everyone that wanted to help them.
JustTruth101 on March 19, 2010 at 3:51 PM
After all my anger at this bonehead bill, and it is almost here, one thought pervades my head.
I am having a hard time believing the US government has come to this. It is a joke, and should be treated like one but for the fact that it is real. I have no doubt it will cost billions more than stated, and once again encourage the welfare class to absolutely stay on the government dola.
In addition, it will cause millions more to join the ranks of the welfare class, where life gets better every day under the democrats. Why work?
Any fool knows that choking your achievers and bankrolling your loafers is fundimentally stupid and counter productive to your economy and country.
saiga on March 19, 2010 at 3:51 PM
R.J. LeTourneau is spinning in his grave. The fact that the company he founded would back this idiot would have killed him in the first place and then his would put him into a 1000RPM spin. I’m glad he died before this happened.
flytier on March 19, 2010 at 3:53 PM
If Caterpiller screams loud enough maybe they will get a backroom deal too. I hear its pretty common if you support the president.
tommer74 on March 19, 2010 at 3:55 PM
This is madness.
saiga on March 19, 2010 at 3:58 PM
Lets hope 1,000,000 show uo at the Capitol Saturday at high noon with pitchforks, tar, and feathers.
saiga on March 19, 2010 at 4:00 PM
I agree, if health care reform doesn’t lower the cost of insuring corporate employees, it’s not good enough.
The problem is that no one, in either party, has the guts to propose legislation that would do what it takes to actually lower the cost of health care in this country. A sad state of affairs.
bayam on March 19, 2010 at 4:17 PM
I love this.
Obama is something else. As a student of all the great 60’s radicals he has absolutely succeeded in exaclty his goal in really just a little over a year. Incredible really.
I think is that King Narcissis is awesome at creating chaos. The is Cloward/Piven to a perfect degree. However I think they fall apart after the chaos is created and I think it is because the original idea was chaos to overwhelm the government. But they create the chaos and they are the government. I think there is a glitch there that these 60’s hippies haven’t quite figured out.
ORconservative on March 19, 2010 at 12:59 PM
Spot on. But once the USA is reduced to economic and societal chaos because we have allowed berri’s ruinous policies to be enacted, (he should be impeached for his nation destroying debt alone. Debt was the way the USSR was destroyed) the global “leaders” step in.
These are the tyrants who have promised berri that if he executed their daily orders and trashed the country in every way possible, as he has been so faithfully and feverishly accomplishing, that when America is subsumed into the New World Order, he will be King.
But by then, small comfort though it will be, berri the useful idiot will have no further use, and will disappear into the bottomless pit of the One World Government.
tigerlily on March 19, 2010 at 4:37 PM
There are only two ways to lower health care costs. Kill all the lawyers or drastically restrict the amount of health care that everyone except high govt officials can get.
The Democrats have chosen the latter path.
MarkTheGreat on March 19, 2010 at 4:53 PM
Who is going to stop these totalitarian tyrants?
rplat on March 19, 2010 at 12:55 PM
All those tyrants who tower above us
Those who give us the smack of their rod
Soon now we will give them the gutter
We will give them the judgment of God!
PercyB on March 19, 2010 at 1:11 PM
As a Free People, we freely placed these tyrants at the levers of power, and handed them the rod with which they smack us, but first we let them savage our unborn citizenry.
Yes, someday the judgement of God will come for them, but right now, these tyrants are God’s judgement upon us.
tigerlily on March 19, 2010 at 4:55 PM
I have an eerie feeling that Atlas is about to shrug.
Dominion on March 19, 2010 at 5:01 PM
If government can force businesses to give health insurance to their employees, does that mean they can force businesses to give their employees a car, or a house, or car insurance? Can they make businesses responsible for their employee’s light bill? Food? Cable?
xblade on March 19, 2010 at 5:25 PM
Apparently they haven’t read the entire bill like Obama. I’m sure the 3000% cost reduction is in there, Obama told everyone it was.
Once their costs are lowered by 3000% they’ll be able to hire tons of new workers. In fact, my office could pay me just on the savings from having me on their health care plan.
Obama wouldn’t lie to us, so they must be planning on paying companies 29 times what the companies currently pay for health care… right?
A free lunch is good, but I like to get paid to eat my free lunch… oddly this is the first time I’ve seen a deal like this.
gekkobear on March 19, 2010 at 5:30 PM
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