New unemployment claims still holding steady

posted at 4:02 pm on March 18, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

With the bitter mid-Atlantic storms now almost four weeks behind us, the impact of these storms on unemployment should be dramatically reversed.  After all, if the rising unemployment in February came from the weather, as the Obama administration claimed two weeks ago, then new claims should have dropped rather significantly.  Instead, the new figures today show that new claims only dropped  by 5,000, with the rolling four-week average still 30,000 above the start of the year:

The number of newly laid-off workers requesting jobless benefits fell slightly last week for the third straight time. But initial claims remain above levels that would signal net job gains.

New claims for unemployment insurance fell 5,000 to a seasonally adjusted 457,000, the Labor Department said Thursday. That nearly matched analysts’ estimates of 455,000, according to Thomson Reuters.

The four-week average of jobless claims, which smooths out volatility, dropped to 471,250. Still, the average has risen by 30,000 since the start of this year. That’s raised concerns among economists that persistent unemployment could weaken the recovery.

The average number of weekly jobless claims remains above the 400,000-to-425,000 level that many economists say it must fall below before widespread new hiring is likely.

That last paragraph is far too optimistic.  The number of claims generally has to drop to around 300,000-325,000 to indicate net job growth, or at least it did before the Obama era of economics.  That’s because we need to see a positive net gain of 100,000 jobs a month just to keep up with population growth.  Anything below that indicates expanding unemployment — as the Left constantly reminded us in 2003-4, when they accused the Bush administration of creating a “jobless recovery.”

Besides, even this rather optimistic take doesn’t account for the fact that 300,000 more were added to the chronically unemployed population:

In the Labor Department report, the number of people continuing to claim unemployment benefits rose slightly to 4.58 million. That was similar to what economists expected. But it doesn’t include millions of people who are receiving extended benefits for up to 73 extra weeks, on top of the 26 weeks customarily provided by the states.

More than 6 million people were on the extended benefit rolls for the week that ended Feb. 27, the latest data available. That is about 300,000 more than in the previous week. The total number of people receiving benefits now tops 11.2 million.

Over the past two months, “this measure has gone nowhere but up,” Dan Greenhaus, chief economic strategist at Miller Tabak, wrote in a note to clients. “We believe it will moderate through the spring, but the larger story, that people are simply not finding jobs, remains in place.”

But will it moderate in the spring?  Last year, we repeatedly warned that the so-called “saved or created” jobs from Porkulus would disappear when federal block grants to states dried up.  A CNBC report from ten days ago sends up another red flag:

State and local government payrolls typically don’t decline much until a year after the beginning of a recession because budgets are already in place and fairly inflexible.

As a result, payrolls were stable in 2008 and a good part of 2009. But not anymore. Revenue-starved states are taking more drastic steps to balance budgets.

“This is a completely unprecedented crisis,” says Ethan Pollack of the Economic Policy Institute. “The budget cuts are going to get more and more severe.”

The main trigger will be the winding down of the massive America Recovery and Reinvestment Act, better know as the federal stimulus plan. Tepid to modest economic growth will also hurt.

“A lot of states didn’t go through with the layoffs that were expected because of the stimulus,” says Christian Weller, who specializes in economics and public policy for the University of Massachusetts and the Center for American Progress.

Unless Congress passes another massive state bailout plan, these workers will soon find themselves out of jobs.  In the end, Porkulus will have delayed the inevitable,with states finally reviewing spending and making cuts that should have occurred last year or before.  Porkulus didn’t save or create jobs; it just kicked the can down the road on responsible governance at the state level.

The second half of this year threatens to see a major increase in unemployment, and that could be the final nail in the coffin for Obamanomics.

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Can I buy that button somewhere?

cntrlfrk on March 18, 2010 at 4:04 PM

So do you read the button clock-wise or counter-clockwise? Never mind. I see the arrow pointing to the green-job.

Electrongod on March 18, 2010 at 4:06 PM

There’s a snow job involved with the unemployment numbers but it’s got nothing to do with the weather. Only the hot air coming out of DC.

chickasaw42 on March 18, 2010 at 4:07 PM

When Obamugabi leaves office, we’ll be at 50% UE.

Welcome to the UE.S.A.

TheSitRep on March 18, 2010 at 4:07 PM

Does anyone think they won’t pass, or at least try to pass, another ‘jobs bill’?

Please…

catmman on March 18, 2010 at 4:07 PM

The second half of this year threatens to see a major increase in unemployment

 
That’s going to go great with our lowered credit rating. Maybe that “Obama isn’t happy” article can be revisited and they can ask him again…

rogerb on March 18, 2010 at 4:07 PM

Can I buy that button somewhere?

cntrlfrk on March 18, 2010 at 4:04 PM

Seconded. I’d wear that every freaking day in public…

Dark-Star on March 18, 2010 at 4:09 PM

Does anyone think they won’t pass, or at least try to pass, another ‘jobs bill’?

Please…

catmman on March 18, 2010 at 4:07 PM

Sure they will. But they’ll be “smaller” bills of $20-30 billion. That could bail out California, but there wouldn’t be anything left for the remaining 49(or 56) states.

There’s no more political capital(not to mention money) for a $860 billion repeat of Porkulus.

Doughboy on March 18, 2010 at 4:10 PM

Hey the President signed the new jobs bill today.

Everything will be swell now. We should have unemployment rate dropping really fast now.
/sarc

Brat4life on March 18, 2010 at 4:10 PM

The only reason it’s ‘steady’ is because of Obow. Nevermind the numbers, you racists.

See–the stimulus is working!

/total sarc and need for the Porcelain Goddess

Liam on March 18, 2010 at 4:13 PM

“A lot of states didn’t go through with the layoffs that were expected because of the stimulus,” says Christian Weller, who specializes in economics and public policy for the University of Massachusetts and the Center for American Progress.

Temporarily saved jobs paid for by our children and grand children. Obama must be proud.

orlandocajun on March 18, 2010 at 4:13 PM

New jobs bill on top of the stimulus from last year…guess those lefty policies are taking affect.

Equal opportunity = everyone equally miserable.

b1jetmech on March 18, 2010 at 4:14 PM

Zuzu: Look, Daddy. Teacher says, every quarter without jobs growth, Obama asks for another jobs bill?

George: That’s right, that’s right.

WashJeff on March 18, 2010 at 4:14 PM

“A lot of states didn’t go through with the layoffs that were expected because of the stimulus,”

So we spent a trillion bucks to delay the inevitable.

hawksruleva on March 18, 2010 at 4:14 PM

Hey the President signed the new jobs bill today.

Everything will be swell now. We should have unemployment rate dropping really fast now.
/sarc

Brat4life on March 18, 2010 at 4:10 PM

Brat, at least we can be assured that the rate won’t exceed 8%.
/sarc back at ya

orlandocajun on March 18, 2010 at 4:15 PM

OT:

OFA is at it again. They are asking for people to email letters to the editors of their local papers in support of ObamaCare. The following is what I just sent (mailing list included):

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Culpeper, VA 22701
540 976 0128

To [edit] The Free Lance-Star, Express, Richmond Times-Dispatch, Washington Times, The Washington DC Examiner, The Baltimore Sun, Culpeper Star-Exponent, The Daily Progress, Potomac News, Daily News-Record, USA Today, The Washington Post, New York Times, Financial Times

NOTE: Each recipient will only see his/her own email address.

Subject [edit] ObamaCare

Message [edit] This is an important message from an astroturf organization designed to mislead you into printing liberal talking points. It’s just spam from an automated letter generating feature at Organizing for America.

Start Spam:

Note: These points are only to provide extra information and suggestions. Do not use these points verbatim. Your letter must be original and should focus on your personal views and experiences.

A new federal study shows that health care spending rose to an estimated $2.5 trillion in 2009, or $8,047 per person—and is now projected to nearly double by 2019.

If we don’t act, this growing burden will mean more lost jobs, more families pushed into bankruptcy, and more crushing debt for our nation.

This isn’t a problem we can kick down the road for another decade—or even another year.

We are incredibly close to passing real health reform. I stand with President Obama in calling on Congress to finish the job.

Too many in Washington are now saying that we should delay or give up reform entirely, but Americans understand the stakes for our economy and our lives, and that we want action.

BobMbx on March 18, 2010 at 4:15 PM

The number of claims generally has to drop to around 300,000-325,000 to indicate net job growth, or at least it did before the Obama era of economics.

If you have not applied for a job in the last 48 hours, Obama considers you to be employed.

MB4 on March 18, 2010 at 4:16 PM

You realize what this calls for, Omarxist needs to come on TV and give another speech on healthcare, to you know, get the message out and stuff.

elduende on March 18, 2010 at 4:16 PM

When will it get through thicks skulls that NO ONE is going to be hiring while the Democrats hold this much power in Washington?

No speechifying, no wishful thinking, no MSM spin, no arm twisting, no “Let me be perfectly clear”, is going to change that fact.

The unemployment rate goes down the moment Obama/Biden are unemployed.

NoDonkey on March 18, 2010 at 4:17 PM

So we spent a trillion bucks to delay the inevitable.

hawksruleva on March 18, 2010 at 4:14 PM

Cost-effective! Only a right-wing partisan moron idiot butt-nut can see the truth.

Now stop being truthful.

Liam on March 18, 2010 at 4:17 PM

Porkulus didn’t save or create jobs; it just kicked the can down the road on responsible governance at the state level.

And in the process created a huge burden of debt that will slow, if not kill job creation in the future.

MarkTheGreat on March 18, 2010 at 4:18 PM

it just kicked the can down the road

That’s the whole driving force behind “Obamanomics”, kick the can down the road. DON’T DEAL WITH IT. PUT IT OFF. Gee, just like ‘health care reform’.

GarandFan on March 18, 2010 at 4:19 PM

GarandFan on March 18, 2010 at 4:19 PM

Obow has only one word in his head: Gimme!

All else in the real world is for or against that. Just ask him.

Liam on March 18, 2010 at 4:22 PM

On the brighter side, sales of tents are booming.

GnuBreed on March 18, 2010 at 4:23 PM

Unexpected

KeepOhioRed on March 18, 2010 at 4:26 PM

There’s no more political capital(not to mention money) for a $860 billion repeat of Porkulus.

Doughboy on March 18, 2010 at 4:10 PM

They are trying to pass (by not voting) a $940 billion repeat of porkulus this weekend.

Vashta.Nerada on March 18, 2010 at 4:28 PM

Our economy relies heavily on the snow birds who flock here from the winter (central east coast of Florida).

Our current unemployment rate for the county is over 14%, and that number reflects the fact that the snow birds are still here.

When they leave many of the stores and restaurants that employ people on a seasonal basis will have to let more people go too.

For many here and around the country, the outlook is never as rosy as the AP and the current administration claim it is.

Mark Boabaca on March 18, 2010 at 4:31 PM

Relax, they’re passing another $18 billion stimulus to create more jobs.

What’s 1/50 of zero again?

Chuck Schick on March 18, 2010 at 4:31 PM

MB4 on March 18, 2010 at 4:16 PM

I’d like to apply for Obama’s job.

Great pay, great benefits, good job security, pension, good perks.

Plus you aren’t at all accountable.

Cushy.

NoDonkey on March 18, 2010 at 4:32 PM

Unemployed artists in bunny suits hardest hit.

Bishop on March 18, 2010 at 4:33 PM

Well I’ve looked everywhere and I still can’t find this damned “recovery”.

BKeyser on March 18, 2010 at 4:33 PM

The libs, in general and especially those who post here, are going to whine the loudest when all they wanted comes to fruition. And it’s going to hurt!

Where do you go after you’ve gone too far?

Liam on March 18, 2010 at 4:34 PM

The libs, in general and especially those who post here, are going to whine the loudest when all they wanted comes to fruition. And it’s going to hurt!

Where do you go after you’ve gone too far?

Liam on March 18, 2010 at 4:35 PM

Well I’ve looked everywhere and I still can’t find this damned “recovery”.

BKeyser on March 18, 2010 at 4:33 PM

Look across the oceans to see recovery.

Electrongod on March 18, 2010 at 4:36 PM

There’s no more political capital(not to mention money) for a $860 billion repeat of Porkulus.

Doughboy on March 18, 2010 at 4:10 PM

There’s neither for ObamaCare. That’s not stopping them.

We’re at the point now where we’re so far in debt, that it really doesn’t matter anymore. $30B, $300B, $3T….just 0s after a number. It will never be paid back.

It’s like if I borrow $10M I might as well borrow $100M. I won’t ever pay it back either way.

angryed on March 18, 2010 at 4:37 PM

Liam on March 18, 2010 at 4:35 PM

You must have had a internet server stall too. Double posting.

Electrongod on March 18, 2010 at 4:37 PM

That’s the whole driving force behind “Obamanomics”, kick the can down the road. DON’T DEAL WITH IT. PUT IT OFF. Gee, just like ‘health care reform’.

GarandFan on March 18, 2010 at 4:19 PM

But we did more than kick the can, we built a trillion-dollar buggy to carry the can down the road. Using borrowed money.

hawksruleva on March 18, 2010 at 4:38 PM

Last year, we repeatedly warned that the so-called “saved or created” jobs from Porkulus would disappear when federal block grants to states dried up.

It’s got to be one way or the other.

If no jobs were actually “saved,” then none will be lost when the spending dries up.

If massive job losses ensue, then at least the Democrats will have the satisfaction of saying “I told you so” about the jobs they (temporarily) saved.

notropis on March 18, 2010 at 4:41 PM

OBAMA CAUGHT RED HANDED WITH FALSE “LETTERS TO THE EDITOR” CAMPAIGN!
http://bigjournalism.com/richmondsexton/2010/03/18/president-obama-promotes-ofa-astroturf-campaign-with-bonus-plagiarism/

Cybergeezer on March 18, 2010 at 4:42 PM

Pivot!

LibTired on March 18, 2010 at 4:46 PM

“the recovery”

WTH is that?

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 18, 2010 at 4:50 PM

The reason the first stimulus didn’t work is because we didn’t spend enough fast enough. Keynesian economics will always work if you just do it right.

stvnscott on March 18, 2010 at 4:53 PM

I’m not sure why I’m surprised, but I am still shocked at the shameless cheerleading our MSM does for the economy.

When Bush was President and the unemployment rate averaged 5%, the MSM trotted out the unemployed and homeless like we were in the midst of the great depression.

Now that Hopeychange is president, the pom poms, tight skirts and saddle shoes have come out.

NoDonkey on March 18, 2010 at 5:03 PM

You must have had a internet server stall too. Double posting.

Electrongod on March 18, 2010 at 4:37 PM

Dem attack. All in the name of peace and fair play!

Liam on March 18, 2010 at 5:09 PM

“HOPE AND CHANGE” becomes:I hope things change!

Outstanding……………

Opposite Day on March 18, 2010 at 5:34 PM

Y’all readers believe this ghetto math?

Cybergeezer on March 18, 2010 at 6:16 PM

Well I’ve looked everywhere and I still can’t find this damned “recovery”.

BKeyser on March 18, 2010 at 4:33 PM
So far down the toilet that you’d best look in the septic tank.

Yoop on March 18, 2010 at 6:23 PM

UNEXPECTED!!!!

RightWinged on March 18, 2010 at 6:23 PM

Obama:
“We’re gonna take $400 billion from Medicare and only put $150 billion into my health care plan.
So we save $550 billion.”

Cybergeezer on March 18, 2010 at 6:34 PM

Can I buy that button somewhere?

cntrlfrk on March 18, 2010 at 4:04 PM
Seconded. I’d wear that every freaking day in public…

Dark-Star on March 18, 2010 at 4:09 PM

I first saw that graphic on http://michellemalkin.com/ and I’d not be suprised to find it sold at cafe press. Well, with a little search I see shirts, mugs and buttons:
http://shop.cafepress.com/wreckovery

I am in no way affiliated with the designer or seller.

AnotherOpinion on March 18, 2010 at 7:30 PM

What’s 1/50 of zero again?

Chuck Schick on March 18, 2010 at 4:31 PM

Using standard math, or liberal math?

MarkTheGreat on March 19, 2010 at 8:25 AM

The situation continues getting worse while the idiots in congress and Bozo keep making the mess worse. The bill he signed will have zero effect. Its just for show.

Yet they keep pushing their communist healthcare bill non stop.

dogsoldier on March 19, 2010 at 10:06 AM