Gibbs won’t promise that Dems won’t use Slaughter strategy for other bills
posted at 6:51 pm on March 18, 2010 by Allahpundit
Via Breitbart, of course he won’t promise. If he admits that it’s an extraordinary, and extraordinarily dubious, move that should be used sparingly if at all, he destroys its credibility as a means of passing O-Care. If he says that it’s A-OK and fit to be used whenever they like because, as the oft-repeated talking point goes, the stupid public doesn’t care about procedure, then he’ll draw even more media scrutiny to the process. So he’s stuck in no man’s land. But here’s the irony: Given how ruthless they’ve been in trying to ram this through and how contentious the battle will be during reconciliation, partisan relations will be so thoroughly poisoned when it’s over that they might be forced to resort to arcane procedures to pass anything. This is, quite possibly, the beginning of a new phase in bitter gridlock where even the small jobs bill that drew 11 Republican votes in the Senate will be unable to pass and reconciliation will be required to move even on that. Wonderful.
Unasked and unanswered here: How Gibbs feels about the White House blessing this tactic as a legitimate way to pass unpopular legislation vis-a-vis future Republican majorities in the House. Two can play at this game, after all. And will.
Update: In a similar vein, and laying aside the merits of O-Care, read Fred Barnes on how this isn’t the end of America’s long national nightmare but only the very, very beginning.
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I have to agree.
The Democrats have demonized every Republican leader and potential Republican leader. And while we’re capable of rallying around them, it will be difficult to get a consensus of independents. We need somebody who will lead the country. I don’t see it.
If this passes, from Sunday night until November 5th we will hvae non-stop press about the great Savior Obama who brought Universal Health Care to America and cakes and parties and HUGE, HUGE payoffs using our taxpayer dollars to strengthen the union base.
Worse case by their estimation is they’ll lose the average amount of their seats in an off year. They’ve calculated for that. Then will become the full Chavez-style socialization of America.
Palin and Pence are the only two even speaking in ideological terms enough to counter this and a good chunk of the GOP won’t rally around her (like AP here).
That doesn’t mean I’m rolling over on my belly. That’s just a cold hard analysis.
The fight begins now. We start using the tools we have at our disposal. I, myself, am thinking about taking out ads on billboards or newspaper pages to make my point. As an individual, I have a lot of power at my fignertips and I’m aim to use it.
Get the word out. It’s time we start educating our fellow citizens and get them to wake up before we all turn into socialist sheep.
Skywise on March 18, 2010 at 7:23 PM
Of course, however, as I said, it will be a moot point anyway. No one is going to be making an income that can be taxed before too long. Obama will simply own everything (like he does the car industry and most of the banks) and we will work as slaves to the state and take whatever it is that they decide to give us.
Or there won’t be any industry because business can’t really happen in the middle of massive civil unrest.
Or even if there is neither, I won’t be earning an income because I absolutely will NOT slave away so I can turn over 85-90% of what I earn to pay for all these entitlements. I will fight it, or I will starve to death. I won’t labor as a state slave, be it in a “collective”, or by seeing 90% of my earnings taken away every week.
My point is, the path that we are on is NOT sustainable by any conceivable means. There will be compliant fascism or there will be rebellion, there can’t be neither.
This country has too long a history of freedom to transform into Soviet Russia within 2 years.
wildcat84 on March 18, 2010 at 7:24 PM
Pathetic.
blatantblue on March 18, 2010 at 7:24 PM
So the second Gettysburg Address invitation was prescient after all.
They intend to destroy our country, it’s that simple. If they use the Slaughter rule now and then try to use it in the future, this means only one thing–the destruction of our country. Beck may be vindicated for his crazy predictions.
All I can say that if they want to use the Slaughter Rule with all the contentious bills, it will not end well.
conservative pilgrim on March 18, 2010 at 7:25 PM
This a declaration of WAR against the Constitution and the American people.If it,s WAR these socialist want them by GOD WAR is what they will get.Keep your power dry.I remind people of the scene in the movie (Oh Brother were art thou) were the people carried the scum bag out on a rail.Picture that and think of our most esteemed members of congress selling there votes and selling you,your children, grandkids out and our country and remember it well.
thmcbb on March 18, 2010 at 7:25 PM
Pathetic.
blatantblue on March 18, 2010 at 7:24 PM
blatantblue: Where have you been,Cougar Slaying!(i kid):)
canopfor on March 18, 2010 at 7:26 PM
Maybe I’m just feeling beaten down. But I don’t really see the point anymore. The country has been on a leftward trajectory since about 1960. Sure it slowed down a tiny bit in the 80s. But even then, with Reagan, govt still grew every year.
This doesn’t happen by accident. It’s not a coincidence that most of the world is socialist. The US is an anomaly these days. And eventually it too will go the way of socialism.
At the end of the day when one has a choice to work for one’s wealth or get it for “free” from the govt, most will choose the easy option. I mean hell, even after months of O-Care and the costs, the backroom deals, the kickbacks, etc…and 40-45% of the public STILL supports it. At some point you have to say f**k it and raise the white flag.
angryed on March 18, 2010 at 7:26 PM
Disabuse yourself of that notion right now.
Reagan privatized the airlines and the phone company. Two things that were nationalized since inception. We can privatize health care again.
Skywise on March 18, 2010 at 7:26 PM
canopfor –
Would this song work? Alice Cooper – Hey Stoopid!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PccmJEeIUXg
yoda on March 18, 2010 at 7:19 PM
yoda: Oooo that is good!:)
canopfor on March 18, 2010 at 7:26 PM
Oh can you get in trouble for telling the government to F off on the census form? Cause I haven’t filled mine out yet and I really really really really really want to.
gophergirl on March 18, 2010 at 7:27 PM
hopefully tomorrow night
blatantblue on March 18, 2010 at 7:27 PM
Wait for it. The leader our country needs will emerge out of this destruction and deliberate chaos, and everyone will know who he or she is. There are too many great people in our country for there not to be a person “for such a time as this.”
conservative pilgrim on March 18, 2010 at 7:28 PM
Yeah, I know. We could be talking about amnesty and cap and trade instead of amnesty, cap and trade and nationalizing a sixth of our economy right now.
chunderroad on March 18, 2010 at 7:28 PM
We can do anything we want if we have the national will to do it.
darwin on March 18, 2010 at 7:28 PM
Maybe what we’re seeing is the absence of that.
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We’ve succeeded in taking Him out of everything,He would be justified in leaving us alone,because isn’t that what this country has been saying lately?I believe though that there are enough of us that can soften His heart.Where 2 or more are praying about the same thing,He hears us.Let’s pray He has mercy on us even though we sure as heck don’t deserve it.
ohiobabe on March 18, 2010 at 7:28 PM
I am more optimistic than that.
Liberal and socialist are still dirty words. Obama had to pretend, aided by a complicit media, to be something that he wasn’t to win the Presidency. The Democrat majority in Congress also had to run people who pretended to be conservatives in order to win.
This is still a center-right to conservative country. Whenever leftism loses it’s mask, the people ALWAYS turn against it. Well, not only is the mask off right now, it is completely NAKED.
wildcat84 on March 18, 2010 at 7:28 PM
Well, yes and no. We probably wouldn’t be getting HellCare but we probably would be getting HellAmnesty and I don’t think the Republicans chances at taking the house this November would be worth a spit.
MB4 on March 18, 2010 at 7:29 PM
OK, the hell with the gibblets jokes!
Now I would seriously like to see someone punch Robert Gibbs lights out!
And I mean with extreme prejudice!
pilamaye on March 18, 2010 at 7:30 PM
yoda: Oooo that is good!:)
canopfor on March 18, 2010 at 7:26 PM
canopfor – Black Crowes – We all know this is….A Conspiracy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djo4gfXaXZg
yoda on March 18, 2010 at 7:30 PM
canopfor on March 18, 2010 at 7:26 PM
hopefully tomorrow night
blatantblue on March 18, 2010 at 7:27 PM
blatantblue:Thats the spirit!:)
canopfor on March 18, 2010 at 7:30 PM
Amen to that.
Midas on March 18, 2010 at 7:31 PM
my biggest fear is that that American people will forget, the media will tout what a savior Obama is and some will buy it.
deidre on March 18, 2010 at 7:32 PM
Sadly, McCain would have been worse than Obama. He would’ve carried Bush’s presidency another four years and we wouldn’ve gotten Obama in 2012 instead of 2008.
Except Obama would’ve had even more Dems to work with in the House and Senate than he does now.
Go ahead and ask me how (if you really need to)
ConservativeTony on March 18, 2010 at 7:32 PM
Poeple have to get used to knowing the democrats as what they really are, so it would help when you talked to your friends or co-workers that you refer to them as communist democrats or Marxist democrats. When they ask why you call them that … let them know.
darwin on March 18, 2010 at 7:32 PM
It won’t matter if they do.
The damage has been done.
franksalterego on March 18, 2010 at 7:33 PM
That’s one thing that doesn’t worry me. Nothing will get any better … it’s going to get worse.
darwin on March 18, 2010 at 7:34 PM
Well, not only is the mask off right now, it is completely NAKED.
wildcat84 on March 18, 2010 at 7:28 PM
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My concern is that unbelievably there are still people out there who don’t believe an American president is capable of this.Until the media reports the truth,I don’t see that changing.
ohiobabe on March 18, 2010 at 7:34 PM
Yep.
As bad as it is now, I think we will be better off in the long run with an entire generation once again acquainted PERSONALLY with what happens when the left controls everything.
wildcat84 on March 18, 2010 at 7:34 PM
However at least McCain loves this country and it’s citizens and he wouldn’t be circumventing the constitution to get what he wants. Obama is evil period.
My Dad always says sometimes you have to take a step take to take a leap forward. I’m just worried that we might not be able to take that leap forward because we’re too far back.
gophergirl on March 18, 2010 at 7:35 PM
I’ve been thinking Cold Civil War for months. Now I think we’re moving toward Beatles territory,
Mason on March 18, 2010 at 7:36 PM
canopfor –
Black Crowes – We all know this is….A Conspiracy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djo4gfXaXZg
yoda on March 18, 2010 at 7:30 PM
yoda:Conspiracys will lead to,:)
=====================================
supertramp-crime of the century
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdXU_M9t004
canopfor on March 18, 2010 at 7:36 PM
The media doesn’t have anywhere near the power you think they do, or THEY think they do. They hitched their wagon to Obama’s halo, and they will go off the same cliff he does.
How did the percentages that oppose Obamacare learn about what makes them oppose it? CBS? MSNBC? CNN? The NYT? Their local paper? No, they learned about it from the new media.
The MSM no longer has the ability to decide what we know, or more importantly (to them) what we DONT know.
wildcat84 on March 18, 2010 at 7:37 PM
Don’t be that pessimistic as any Obama victory on this will likely be a pyrrhic one.
MB4 on March 18, 2010 at 7:38 PM
gophergirl on March 18, 2010 at 7:27 PM
//
Can’t
believe you haven’t gotten yours.It is very easy-name,age,how many peeps live at your place and you are an American!
ohiobabe on March 18, 2010 at 7:38 PM
I was a history major so perhaps I have too much perspective to be depressed. Perhaps we’re going to see the collapse of our currency, our economy and our government at the same time. We will not vanish into thin air, but remain the same productive, educated populace atop our vast natural resources. We have suffered a decline in morals and morale. We can recover it. We’re not 2 hours from nuclear bombardment; we’re not under threat of invasion; most women and 1/3 of men are not unemployed; we’re not fighting a world war on two fronts. So we’ve had worse. The good news is, if history teaches anything, its that a nation can learn frugality and prudence from hunger and poverty; so our grandchildren and great-grandchildren will not fall into the same rut.
Chris_Balsz on March 18, 2010 at 7:39 PM
Obamacare is going to be tied up in the courts for YEARS before it’s implemented.
wildcat84 on March 18, 2010 at 7:39 PM
Haven’t read Fred Barnes’ peiece, but I doubt I have to. We have a coup junta in Washington. They have been released from any legal restrictions and just make up whatever they want. This started because of the affirmative action retard in the Oval Office, with the complicit media behind him every step of the way and coverign for his every moronic mistake and lie, but has since spread to the whole democratic party after they realized that they were part of a coup, instead of merely out to rob the US of every penny.
This is no big surprise, as anyone with a brain knew that this is what the Indonesian Imbecile planned on doing and knew that calls to ignore the Constitution (so as not to get blacks riled up about their Precedent) would spread through our system like the misvalued debt forced byt he federal government percolated through the whole debt market.
No surprises. It’s just disappointing that the US folded to an un-American retard so easily. Even if this health scare fails, our federal government has already been broken beyond repair.
neurosculptor on March 18, 2010 at 7:40 PM
Translation: McCain’s suck up to La Raza
By Michelle Malkin • July 14, 2008 12:04 PM
While John McCain’s lips move this afternoon during his speech to the Race’s open-borders lovefest, let me serve as your interpreter:
MCCAIN: My friends, you are right. Those people who killed my shamnesty bill have ill intentions. They are bigots, just like my friend Lindsay Graham told you they were when he spoke before you two years ago.
My friends, I don’t want to talk about securing the border any more than you do. But trust me, when the “border” is “secure” (wink, wink, nudge, nudge), then we’ll do what we all want to do: Formalize our Sanctuary Nation. Rejoice that illegal aliens are serving in the military. And sanctimoniously demonize and marginalize all those pesky bigots who keep obsessing about immigration enforcement and national security. I’m as committed to peddling sob-story platitudes and whitewashing your ethnic nationalism as you are! (What was that about the 15 things about The Race you should know? Shhhhhhhhhhh!)
Just work with me here, ok? Brother Obama may have marched with you at the Chicago May Day illegal alien parade. But I have a lifetime commitment to Hispandering! And you have showered with me with honors for my open-borders work.
Remember?
They don’t call me La Raza’s voice in Washington for nothing.
MB4 on March 18, 2010 at 7:41 PM
McCain/Feingold… need I say anything more?
Romeo13 on March 18, 2010 at 7:42 PM
Wildcat, you are right. This had to happen. Hopefully, it didn’t happen too late in the process.
The GOP should be on it. Bumpersticker: “America, this is what happens when Democrats are in control.”
ConservativeTony on March 18, 2010 at 7:43 PM
I’ll be optimistic when I see an armed militia marching into Washington D.C.
franksalterego on March 18, 2010 at 7:43 PM
Politician need to be held responsible for their decisions. And I mean beyond the voting booth.
We should be allowed to sue these idiots for political malpractice.
jack herman on March 18, 2010 at 7:43 PM
Votes like the one today and the one Sunday might make that inevitable.
wildcat84 on March 18, 2010 at 7:45 PM
I don’t think so. Too many unemployed, small businesses are not growing, businesses are going out of business, prices are going up….We are headed towards inflation. Wait until next year when people have to pay their taxes. If the gas prices increase slightly like two years ago, during the summer? That may be the tipping point.
This is all with the hope and prayer that there is not a successful terrorist attack on our soil or international crisis with Obama at the helm.
conservative pilgrim on March 18, 2010 at 7:45 PM
Johnny Mac, Just Whose Side Are You On?
With a history filled with cursing, (“F*ck you” to John Cornyn, “A$$hole to Pete Domenici, “F*cking jerk to Charles Grassley, screaming and throwing temper tantrums at fellow Republicans over the years, John McCain seems to save his admiration and glowing praise for Nancy Pelosi and Al Gore.
On Nancy Pelosi, McCain was positively gushing with compliments and niceties:
What did he say?? Pelosi “an effective leader”, and an “inspiration to millions of Americans”?? Someone who pretty much practices Socialism gets this kind of praise and gushy sentiments from the GOP PRESIDENTIAL candidate, while cursing out Conservative leaders like John Cornyn.
And it didn’t end with Pelosi. Without skipping a beat, McCain went on to praise Al Gore for HIS leadership on the phony baloney Global Warming / Climate Change hysteria:
I guess it’s true that like minds stick together. This won’t go over well with the base, which John McCain doesn’t seem to care about anyway:
McCain is probably in the best shape of his life these days with all the running to the left he has been doing.
- Michael “A.J. Sparxx” (World-Class Athlete Professional Wrestler and blogger at Conservatives with Attitude!) [August 4, 2008]
MB4 on March 18, 2010 at 7:46 PM
Why are you sitting here complaining and waiting to “see” it? Get off your ass and DO it.
speed911 on March 18, 2010 at 7:46 PM
Exactly. FAR too many people are hurting because of the economy to buy that kind of propaganda. The economy under Clinton was good, so people were succeptable to his charm.
Things are as bad as they’ve been in generations, not getting any better any time soon, and Obama, despite all the press about his “fantastic” charisma comes off somewhere between Chicago street thug and dead fish. He isn’t what people were sold and it’s obvious now. Which is why he’s in the 40′s headed for the 30′s and possibly lower.
wildcat84 on March 18, 2010 at 7:48 PM
supertramp-crime of the century
canopfor on March 18, 2010 at 7:36 PM
Oooh good one canopfor – Dem damn Democrats are in a Downward Spiral – Nine Inch Nails
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftbB4gqbg84
yoda on March 18, 2010 at 7:48 PM
Well … I read the Fred Barnes piece, and he totally misses the point – at least, his headline is myopic in its scope, though it intimates a larger view.
neurosculptor on March 18, 2010 at 7:50 PM
It seems to me if they think the deem and pass is a good idea, I do believe that a line from the constitution stands out…
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
So whats it take to get the gears moving?
TheVer on March 18, 2010 at 7:51 PM
Sorry Charlie,
My 70th Birthday Anniversary is Saturday, and it’d be a 2700 mile march.
franksalterego on March 18, 2010 at 7:51 PM
Compared to Obama, no. I voted McCain but we would have just bled a little slower with him. Then Obama would have won in 2012.
JellyToast on March 18, 2010 at 7:51 PM
In the grand scheme of things, that’s not so long. Things are swinging back in our favor, too. Look at human rights. The left abortion on demand a “right” with women’s liberation. New ultrasound technology is making a younger generation of Americans rethink this issue. Just one example.
That’s because the left got to implement all their grand ideas of the 60′s, and they proved to be colossal failures. The Great Society and the Carter administration hurt the US. That’s partly why Reagan was elected and reelected.
Even Reagan could not get rid of entitlements, and most of this “growth” you speak of was a hangover from the Great Society. With his tax cuts working, it was hard to make a case to his opponents that the US couldn’t afford these programs, especially when he was committed to our national security during the Cold War. Maybe different circumstances would have produced another outcome.
The US has always been exceptional, and our country has made it possible for socialism elsewhere. We policed the world. They provided handouts for their citizens. Often, it was necessary for these countries, or so they thought, to provide immigration incentives or prevent another horror like WWII to where tough economic conditions made people more susceptible to conspiracy or antisemitism, as examples.
What makes us exceptional, is that we have always believed in the human spirit and prized freedom above all else. This sentiment still predominates in our nation. Americans are disgusted by this administration, even if they still like the President and believe he means well. Opposition to the bill is higher than the figures you cite, incidentally, and I think our side has the advantage of being on the right side of the argument. This is nowhere near over. Breathe :)
chunderroad on March 18, 2010 at 7:53 PM
No, they learned about it from the new media.
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You’re right and they hate that fact too:)
ohiobabe on March 18, 2010 at 8:04 PM
I think with the FCC “diversity” czar, etc, Obama went in with delusions of putting the liberal media monopoly “humpty dumpty” back together again. It just can’t happen, not without overt fascism, arresting people for dissent, etc.
Of course, today’s actions by the house WAS an overt act of fascism…
wildcat84 on March 18, 2010 at 8:07 PM
No chance of that happening. They’ve been prepared for that scenario long before anyone here thought of it. Any kind of ‘pitchfork brigade’ will fight with citizens, not government officials. If things get ugly, it’ll be some unemployed Women’s Studies Major or a liberal kid who makes lattes at Starbucks or some other vocal progressive that ends up paying a price, not any of the stooges on Capitol Hill. They’ll be tucked away and very safe.
joejm65 on March 18, 2010 at 8:07 PM
What are you expecting? A tyrant to wield his power responsibly?
“Oh, no, we’ll allow votes. Only when the public favors it, though. When they’re too stupid to know what’s best for them, we’ll just jam it through without a vote.”
CatsGodot on March 18, 2010 at 8:08 PM
Maybe I missed this in the thread but while the Dems are saying this
Nobody is holding anyone’s feet to the fire and saying,”If this is so great is this how we should proceed with more/all legislation?”. If this “tactic” is so great why don’t we use it more often?
More frightening, what if leadership suddenly agrees that we should?
@ntif@n on March 18, 2010 at 8:10 PM
If it all came down to that, the government wouldn’t be able to rely on the military (hence Obama’s desire for a “civilian” defense corps).
People who have put their lives on the line behind their oath to “preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States against ALL enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC” take that oath a lot more seriously than politicians who vote to nullify Article I of the Constitution by fiat…
wildcat84 on March 18, 2010 at 8:11 PM
This is the beginning of a national nightmare. Soon Obama won’t need Congress at all. He’ll simply deem laws into being all by himself.
Democracy is on its heels. The Republic is in trouble.
drjohn on March 18, 2010 at 8:18 PM
The forms will remain, even if hollowed out. Elections will continue even if meaningless just as they did in the former Soviet Union.
Bitter irony is that the Russians may be living under more freedom than Americans if this keeps up.
sharrukin on March 18, 2010 at 8:21 PM
I can imagine that is true, how would you even begin? How would you convince the people that they will be better off w/out the gov’t teat in their mouth all the time? So many arms on this behemoth called gov’t, cut off one, 2 grow back.
TheVer on March 18, 2010 at 8:23 PM
Yep. If they pass this POS, it’s going to be ugly. There are new capital gains taxes in it, something that’s likely to make the stock market take a nosedive. Plus, everyone’s health insurance premiums are still going to keep going up. Add in all the other new taxes that kick in immediately, and benefits that don’t show up for 4 years, and people (even the dopes who support this now) are going to be hopping mad. This thing has disaster (for the Dims) written all over it.
AZCoyote on March 18, 2010 at 8:23 PM
I wonder if there’s going to be any chance of HA taking the “R-word” off moderation once it becomes apparent that the “R-word” is the only way Americans have of taking their country back.
Sharke on March 18, 2010 at 8:25 PM
No.
ya2daup on March 18, 2010 at 8:26 PM
The people who are living off the government teat had BETTER conceive of the day that it no longer gives them free milk, because it’s inevitable no matter who wins the next elections.
The reality is WE DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY to keep paying for the entitlements that are already there, especially in a sour economy, and confiscating 100% of the income of the “rich” won’t change that.
wildcat84 on March 18, 2010 at 8:30 PM
I Think I used that earlier:
Without knowing it.
Chip on March 18, 2010 at 8:31 PM
If ObamaCare is passed using reconciliation, it’s certainly legitimate to repeal it using the same method. The prospect of unrestricted warfare actually makes me giddy. It’s a chance to slaughter all the libs’ sacred cows.
year_of_the_dingo on March 18, 2010 at 8:35 PM
While I certainly think the GOP shouldn’t play “good guys” and let the donks get away with exploiting it, passing legislation without votes is a line I will condemn ANYONE for crossing, for any reason. There is NO bill that justifies it.
wildcat84 on March 18, 2010 at 8:40 PM
If they pass it using the recon route, it sunsets in 5 years correct? We really dont want to go down the road of using this on a regular basis as we might as well take a good hard look at how Hugo operates and copy that, save us alot of trouble.
TheVer on March 18, 2010 at 8:41 PM
Besides, whats everybody complaining about, premiums are going DOWN 3000 percent, so they will be PAYING us to have insurance, how awesome is that! Thanks Obama!!
TheVer on March 18, 2010 at 8:46 PM
Foolish Dems
Sapwolf on March 18, 2010 at 8:46 PM
+100. Make English the official language of the USA, defund the Dept. of Education, EPA and HUD for starters, privatize or abolish Social Security (it’s going bankrupt anyway)… and that’s for starters.
Would be great to ban the liberal/progressive parties as well as ACORN.
J.J. Sefton on March 18, 2010 at 8:57 PM
I thought I have been hearing that they would deem the senate version passed and then the recon, but the recon would be ignored by the senate and I won would just sign that. Sorry House, but you really think the Senate wants to vote again?
TheVer on March 18, 2010 at 9:08 PM
I always thought anyone who went to the trouble and expense to become POTUS would want to make history in a positive way. You know, in a Reaganesque “tear down this wall” kind of way. Not a “let’s tear up our own constitution and ram unwanted legislation through whether the people want it or not” kind of way! These people have to go home to face their constituents at some point, they can’t hide behind Nancy’s skirt forever.
scalleywag on March 18, 2010 at 9:09 PM
I am no more in favor of GOP tyranny than I am donk tyranny.
wildcat84 on March 18, 2010 at 9:14 PM
And why not? If the Tenth Amendment means nothing to these people who thinks they care about the Second?
jimmy2shoes on March 18, 2010 at 9:21 PM
You betcha!
After seeing the Joe the Plumber exchange, what person paying any attention would think that these Communists are going to play by the rules?
Dr. ZhivBlago on March 18, 2010 at 9:30 PM
Tin foil hat on: maybe that is the reason for all the ordinance heading to Diego Garcia, he wants to precipitate an international crisis to declare Marshall Law and cancel the elections.
chemman on March 18, 2010 at 9:33 PM
As I said, any Fed who wants to collect my guns shall first collect my bullets.
wildcat84 on March 18, 2010 at 10:11 PM
I can’t even bring myself to click on clips that feature Gibbs, the weaseling bag of wind.
onlineanalyst on March 18, 2010 at 10:22 PM
So, when does the Revolution really get crankin’ here?
CP on March 18, 2010 at 11:14 PM
It is not Marshall Law. It’s martial law. Please. Let’s at least get our terms straight.
francesca on March 19, 2010 at 1:10 AM
Agreed! But I guess it is best to know one`s enemy no matter how unsavory.
Is there even one Obama associate who is not a weasel?
It appears one must be a weasel by definition to serve under Obama . . . .
I am just hoping and praying that Obamacare does not pass.
But I fear the worst.
Horrid.
Sherman1864 on March 19, 2010 at 4:04 AM
What a liar Gibbs is
Noelie on March 19, 2010 at 7:55 AM
The real “Slaughter” is coming in November. Get ready to be voted out of office and get used to the fact that you’ll never hold public office of any kind ever again if you do this to the American people. I pray anyone who supports this or votes this way ends up homeless, living under a highway overpass and eating out of garbage cans.
TrickyDick on March 19, 2010 at 8:35 AM
So if this thing is going to pass, why is Obama delaying his Asian trip until June???
Why couldn´t he go on Sunday after the vote?
albill on March 19, 2010 at 9:10 AM
Allah has threatened to ban anyone who openly advocates either the 1776 option or the 1860 option.
MarkTheGreat on March 19, 2010 at 9:43 AM
Of course, they’ll use it. If they are willing to do so on this bill, with the polls jumping up in opposition, they’ll not hesitate to push the rest of the agenda through via the same method.
AnninCA on March 19, 2010 at 9:46 AM
Barnes is saying what I have thought all along. It is just the beginning.
This changes the entire political agenda from this day forth.
AnninCA on March 19, 2010 at 9:48 AM
I still think that as president, he would be urging Republicans to support something very similar to BarryCare, to save his presidency.
MarkTheGreat on March 19, 2010 at 9:49 AM
Before or after Barry purges all the disloyal officers?
MarkTheGreat on March 19, 2010 at 9:51 AM
No, he would have pushed his own HCR, which wasn’t bad at all and would have addressed many of the important issues, such as pre-existing conditions and purging people after they have paid premiums in good faith.
AnninCA on March 19, 2010 at 9:54 AM
Carter de-regulated the airlines, and the courts de-regulated the phone company. Neither was ever owned by the govt.
MarkTheGreat on March 19, 2010 at 9:55 AM
Not a chance, Allah doesn’t want to look bad in front of his RINO friends.
MarkTheGreat on March 19, 2010 at 10:00 AM
Whatever McCain proposed, would still have to get through a house and senate run by Pelosi and Reid. The end result would have been pretty much the same.
MarkTheGreat on March 19, 2010 at 10:03 AM
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