Too good to check: Rep. Joe Barton says CBO score will exceed … $1 trillion

posted at 4:41 pm on March 17, 2010 by Allahpundit

I’m skeptical, but commenters in the Pelosi thread are buzzing so let’s have at it.

health care issue is still up in the air…..the Congressional budget office score has come in at over 1 trillion $..yes …..1 trillion……if the bill is not posted by 6 pm today< we cant vote on it saturday...stay tuned

Steve Hayes of the Weekly Standard is hearing the same thing. So why am I skeptical? Well, (a) by law, the reconciliation fix has to reduce the deficit above and beyond the reduction already provided for in Reid’s Senate bill — which cost less than a trillion. It’s technically possible for a more expensive bill to produce greater long-term savings, but I’m keen to see how they played with the, ahem, revenue-raising provisions to do it. And (b) even if they can make the numbers work for reconciliation, The One has said all along that he wants a bill that costs in the neighborhood of $900 billion. No surprise that he’d be willing to break yet another promise to pass this clusterfark, but it’s not his credibility that’s on the line right now; it’s the credibility of Democratic fencesitters, who need some sort of fig leaf on costs that they can take back to their districts. As moronic as it may sound, a $950 billion bill is easier to sell than a $1 trillion one (that’s why gadgets are priced at $99.99 instead of $100), to the point where I would have considered it a mortal lock that the leadership would game the numbers so that they come in at $900-and-change. According to the GOP whip count, it’s 204 yes, 209 no, with 18 left to decide things. Is Pelosi really going to hang a pricetag with 12 zeroes around their necks before they vote?

We’ll have the numbers soon. Stand by.

Update: Like I was saying about those revenue-raising provisions

AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka is headed into a meeting with President Obama this afternoon after the White House and Congressional leaders have begun to discuss a higher-than-expected excise tax on some health care plans, in order to maintain their claim that health care legislation will reduce the deficit, a source involved in health care talks said.

Any unexpected change to the health care plan could endanger support for the bill from labor, which agreed to back it after reductions to the planned excise tax.


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darwin on March 17, 2010 at 4:44 PM

I’m sure our idiot Sec. of Treasury will double check in TurboTax or MineSweeper.

More Unicorns!

More Lollipops!

tetriskid on March 17, 2010 at 4:44 PM

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SheetAnchor on March 17, 2010 at 4:45 PM

jonesy takes off his headset

/huntforredoctober

fiatboomer on March 17, 2010 at 4:45 PM

1 trillion chickens are coming home to roost.

lorien1973 on March 17, 2010 at 4:45 PM

Steve Hayes of the Weekly Standard is hearing the same thing. So why am I skeptical?

Because you’re Allahpundit, that’s why. And we still love you…

D2Boston on March 17, 2010 at 4:45 PM

Actualy, it could score over 1 Trillion… but they raise costs and taxes more than that, thus the deficit “decreases”.

I think as long as it “decreases” the deficit MORE than the Senate bill they think they can use reconciliation.

Romeo13 on March 17, 2010 at 4:46 PM

heh….it’s just paper…

PatriotRider on March 17, 2010 at 4:46 PM

Those who intend to crash their car into a bridge abutment at 100+ mph are hardly worried about the level of motor oil in their engine…

Ramming speed!

turfmann on March 17, 2010 at 4:46 PM

From the gretawire twitter:

Pres Obama just said Bret keeps interrupting him…..Bret says he does not answer the question ..you need 2 C ths 2nite at 6p/Special Report

deidre on March 17, 2010 at 4:47 PM

How much over a trillion is it? Is it 2 trillion? With all the bribes I’m sure it’s closer to 2 trillion. Unless they have the bribes hiding in other bills.

Brat4life on March 17, 2010 at 4:47 PM

I saw a clip with Chris Walllace stating one of the reasons the Student loan stuff is in this bill is to balance out the costs for the CBO score. That, and wanting complete CONTROL, now makes sense as to why the SL piece is in the fix.

And, at this stage, how in the heck are we actually supposed to trust the CBO scoring for this thing? They are just manipulating it to please us for the moment. It will not be the reality. Oh, my bad, we are to dumb to know that though and just don’t understand or care about this process.

truetexan on March 17, 2010 at 4:47 PM

Please sweet little baby Jesus…

Yellowdog12 on March 17, 2010 at 4:47 PM

Scary…

Khun Joe on March 17, 2010 at 4:48 PM

That’s probably a Low-ball estimate anyways – has any government program come in under those estimates?

Chip on March 17, 2010 at 4:48 PM

Glenn Nye … VA has already said he’s a no vote, and was before. How he won this district is beyond me but he’s walking on egg shells as democrat because of Obama and he knows it.

darwin on March 17, 2010 at 4:48 PM

In 1964, the Johnson administration projected that Medicare would cost $12 billion by 1990. The actual figure was close to $113 billion, and it keeps on growing.

lorien1973 on March 17, 2010 at 4:48 PM

truetexan on March 17, 2010 at 4:47 PM

The Student Loan takeover is in this because they cannot pass the Student Loan normally… Ben Nelson has said he’d vote against it.

Enoxo on March 17, 2010 at 4:49 PM

From the gretawire twitter:

Pres Obama just said Bret keeps interrupting him…..Bret says he does not answer the question ..you need 2 C ths 2nite at 6p/Special Report

deidre on March 17, 2010 at 4:47 PM

I’m getting a tingle up my leg…

Do you think Bret has been cramming for this w/ Dr. K?

turfmann on March 17, 2010 at 4:49 PM

“Let me be clear……..I going to take more of your sh!t.”

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on March 17, 2010 at 4:49 PM

Actualy, it could score over 1 Trillion… but they raise costs and taxes more than that, thus the deficit “decreases”.
I think as long as it “decreases” the deficit MORE than the Senate bill they think they can use reconciliation.
Romeo13 on March 17, 2010 at 4:46 PM

Hey, it’ll decrease it by 3000%
(that never gets old)

Chip on March 17, 2010 at 4:50 PM

They’ll just fudge it until they get the phony number they want…if it did come back at that price, it really doesn’t matter anyway. Those who are “undecided” (there’s no such thing as an undecided liberal…they already know which way they are voting…I think it will be yes) are going to cave in the end anyway.

AUINSC on March 17, 2010 at 4:50 PM

I have no reason whatsoever to believe anyone any more.

Family members excluded.

fogw on March 17, 2010 at 4:50 PM

truetexan on March 17, 2010 at 4:47 PM

It’s not the CBO that is manipulating this it’s the deomonrats. They only score what is put in front of them. So if they take some of the bribes out they can shove them into other bills. All the dems have to do is change numbers til they get what they want. It’s hard to know what the CBO is scoring cause we don’t know what’s in it or what the dems will put in another bill.

Brat4life on March 17, 2010 at 4:51 PM

What’s another trillion…. Dennis sold out for a ride on a shiny air plane… the trillion isn’t their money it’s ours… ahhhh… what’s the use….. i’m outta toilet paper…. any of that constitution left… no sense let n go to waste… i gotta wipe

roflmao

donabernathy on March 17, 2010 at 4:54 PM

Any unexpected change to the health care plan could endanger support for the bill from labor

Does it even matter? Obama, Pelosi, and Reid want this passed. They don’t seem to be listening to anyone.

behiker on March 17, 2010 at 4:54 PM

Considering the whole bill (that we will not see 5 days before it is voted on) is pretty much smoke and mirrors when it comes to dollars and sense anyway…..I don’t see how this is going to stop democrats who will eventually just be bribed with tax payer money for their votes.

democrats have already shown that their words and faux righteous stand “for the people” don’t mean a thing and no lie or bribe is to bad to keep them from pushing their agenda.

The democrats are on a suicide mission and are pretty much just going to use their majorities to shove through as much as they can before the massacre that awaits them in November.


Obama,Pelosi,and Reid don’t want to be “heroes” or “respected” by all Americans….they only care about being heroes to their left wing activists friends….
left wing heroes like Bill Ayers….CHE…..Castro…and Karl Marx.

Baxter Greene on March 17, 2010 at 4:54 PM

It looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue…

Seven Percent Solution on March 17, 2010 at 4:55 PM

How about the GOP introduce new CBO rules ending the scoring trick used by Princess Sparkles.

joeindc44 on March 17, 2010 at 4:55 PM

Don’t worry, they’ll FIX IT in reconcilliation.

stenwin77 on March 17, 2010 at 4:55 PM

I have a theory. Reconciliation hasn’t been on the table for weeks. The Slaughter rule is what Obama wants, per the clip of Bret’s interview of Obama saying that ANY vote in the House is a vote for Health Care. Also, per Brooks’ observation in the NYT, if reconciliation is used, it will turn the Senate into the House, thus removing the very characteristics that make the Senate the “saucer” so to speak. Also, as Clyburn noted in his interview on FOX, the 60 votes that occurred in the Senate is “enough” and satisfies the notion of “representation” whether or not the House of Reps. actually vote on it. So here’s my theory, after putting all this together. There is a major move to delegitimize one half of the legislative structure, either the House or the Senate, and Obama has thrown his hat in with the Senate in hopes to delegitimize and neuter the House, because it’s much easier to deal with 100 people to bribe than all those in the House. If Obamacare can pass with only the Senate voting on it, and they get away with it, then the question becomes, what is the need for a House of Representatives really? After the House is delegitimized, that power is then divided between the Senate and the Executive Branch. This is why there’s so much anxiety. Both chambers know that if Obamacare is given to Obama it will cost either the Senate through reconciliation, or the House through the Slaughter. Thoughts?

Weight of Glory on March 17, 2010 at 4:56 PM

What’s a Trillion Dollars among Socialists.

portlandon on March 17, 2010 at 4:56 PM

Don’t worry, they’ll FIX IT in reconcilliation.

stenwin77 on March 17, 2010 at 4:55 PM

I bet the Senate dems laugh their ass off when they hear that.

darwin on March 17, 2010 at 4:57 PM

Brat4life on March 17, 2010 at 4:51 PM

It’s just trial and error. The donks will keep trying different combinations till they hit the right combination.

a capella on March 17, 2010 at 4:58 PM

How is the CBO even legally allowed to score a reconciliation package for a non-existent law? I know that laws don’t matter anymore, but I’m just curious about this.

neurosculptor on March 17, 2010 at 4:58 PM

a capella on March 17, 2010 at 4:58 PM

I know, I just didn’t want people to think the CBO were manipulating the data it’s the dems.

Brat4life on March 17, 2010 at 5:00 PM

PHOTOS OF OBAMA’S CHILDHOOD IN INDONESIA EMERGE!

Cybergeezer on March 17, 2010 at 5:00 PM

Steve Hayes of the Weekly Standard is hearing the same thing. So why am I skeptical? Well, (a) by law, the reconciliation fix has to reduce the deficit

You need to understand that the democrats don’t care what the law says about this. They plan to jam it down our throtes regardless of the law. That’s what the Slaughter bill is all about…..

t.ferg on March 17, 2010 at 5:01 PM

Didn’t the Democrats say they wouldn’t pass this SCAM if it is over a Trillion $$$$$$? Calling Joe Wilson, you’re needed over here!!!

yoda on March 17, 2010 at 5:01 PM

And, at this stage, how in the heck are we actually supposed to trust the CBO scoring for this thing? They are just manipulating it to please us for the moment. It will not be the reality. Oh, my bad, we are to dumb to know that though and just don’t understand or care about this process.

truetexan on March 17, 2010 at 4:47 PM

It’s complete garbage – the CBO works the way my accountant works ….

Accountant: “Oh my God Mr. Honda! Next year you’re going to be ONE MILLION DOLLARS in debt an unable to pay your bills!”

Me: “Don’t sweat it … I have a plan. I’ve been studying “craps” and I estimate I’ll make $1.2M Dollars at the tables in Las Vegas!”

Accountant: “Oh WOW Mr. Honda!! That puts you in the green with at least $200,000 dollars to spare! No Worries! None … whatsoever!”

Of course – I’m not going to actually win 1.2 million dollars – but my accountant has to include that money because I said so and she works for me.

HondaV65 on March 17, 2010 at 5:01 PM

Brat4life on March 17, 2010 at 4:51 PM

I should have clarified, the members of Congress will manipulate what they put into the CBO to get numbers they think will make the public happy. However, with this type of manipulation it has exposed how they get favorable numbers from the CBO. I don’t understand why the CBO will even attempt to score a bill that hasn’t been written.

truetexan on March 17, 2010 at 5:02 PM

neurosculptor: “How is the CBO even legally allowed to score a reconciliation package for a non-existent law? ”

They can do it because the non-existent law has been DEEMED to have been written.

I hope that helps! :)

Justrand on March 17, 2010 at 5:02 PM

HondaV65 on March 17, 2010 at 5:01 PM

Yep.

Midas on March 17, 2010 at 5:03 PM

I’m sure our idiot Sec. of Treasury will double check in TurboTax or MineSweeper.

tetriskid on March 17, 2010 at 4:44 PM

Good one!

ya2daup on March 17, 2010 at 5:05 PM

Reconciliation hasn’t been on the table for weeks.

Weight of Glory on March 17, 2010 at 4:56 PM

The Slaughter demon is the House’s preparation for reconciliation.

When the Senate votes, they will be violating the Constitution by not voting on the same thing the House is voting on, or else they will be violating Senate rules by using reconciliation rules for a bill that includes the old Senate bill provisions, which cannot go through reconciliation.

pedestrian on March 17, 2010 at 5:05 PM

The One has said all along that he wants a bill that costs in the neighborhood of $900 billion. No surprise that he’d be willing to break yet another promise to pass this clusterfark

You aren’t getting the point at all.

This is Cloward-Piven. Aside from grabbing control of health care, his goal is to spend as much as possible. $900 billion is just a number he threw out there as to something he thinks he can get. The more, the better.

Daggett on March 17, 2010 at 5:06 PM

It’s deemed to not exceed a trillion dollars. There.

andy85719 on March 17, 2010 at 5:06 PM

Was it over when the Germans Bombed Pearl Harbor?

alohapundit on March 17, 2010 at 5:06 PM

It wasn’t the Germans, it was the Symbionese. And they bombed Pearl Bailey.

Daggett on March 17, 2010 at 5:08 PM

I have no reason whatsoever to believe anyone any more.

Family members excluded.

fogw on March 17, 2010 at 4:50 PM

It’s very hard, and we’re all depressed, but it’s not over yet. You MUST still fight. YOUR good children deserve to have a good country.

Schadenfreude on March 17, 2010 at 5:10 PM

The only problem is, if Obama gets any less popular, in order to get his popularity back he’s going to have to invade Canada. There’s another expensive weekend we’ll have to pay for. :)

RBMN on March 17, 2010 at 5:12 PM

Where are the CBO report and votes Nancy promised by 5?

andy85719 on March 17, 2010 at 5:14 PM

I truly do not see what the problem is. Just push the start of benefits out another year – presto! deficit reduction. In fact, push the start of the insurance excise tax out to keep labor on board and push benefits back a bit more. Who’s counting? Certainly not the MSM.

deadman on March 17, 2010 at 5:15 PM

If ONLY this disaster only cost a trillion……..

Yakko77 on March 17, 2010 at 5:15 PM

How is the CBO even legally allowed to score a reconciliation package for a non-existent law? I know that laws don’t matter anymore, but I’m just curious about this.

neurosculptor on March 17, 2010 at 4:58 PM

What is this “law” you allude to?

In the new post-partisan paradise of President-for-Life Osama Obama, laws are what He says they are, no more, no less.

And, BTW, if this was an ordinary government program — one which did not involve wiping out the private sector and placing all citizens (except the Amish, apparently) under totalitairan control, it would be resonable to assume that it will cost twice the CBO estimates, at a minimum. So think: two trillion smackeroos. With this steaming pile of dung, the sky’s the limit.

It’s sad to think that Eeyore-ism will win out, but there it is.

Dude.

MrScribbler on March 17, 2010 at 5:15 PM

Honestly, after the multi-trillion dollar explosion that the Dems have detonated in the past year, what’s another trillion dollars? We were deep underwater before, so we’re a little deeper now.

Can’t America just apply for some new credit cards?

Cicero43 on March 17, 2010 at 5:15 PM

Oh, looks like taxes need to go higher. Trumka called to unprincipal’s office.

andy85719 on March 17, 2010 at 5:15 PM

From the gretawire twitter:

Pres Obama just said Bret keeps interrupting him…..Bret says he does not answer the question ..you need 2 C ths 2nite at 6p/Special Report

deidre on March 17, 2010 at 4:47 PM

Am I the only one who is really starting like Greta?

Knucklehead on March 17, 2010 at 5:16 PM

What’s a Trillion Dollars among Socialists.

portlandon on March 17, 2010 at 4:56 PM

Ogabe’s socialist twin Mugabe has already printed $100,000,000,000,000 bills in Zimbawbe.
Why wouldn’t the Kenyan do the same here? Just give it time.

Norwegian on March 17, 2010 at 5:16 PM

Wow, listening to random tunes on the iPod here, and “Tell Me When Did Things Go So Wrong?” by The Smithereens just came on – hits a little too close to home…


We used to walk inthe sun with our heads held up high
We used to stand on our own and we never asked why
We used to do everything we were told not to do
But now we all stand in line like the rest of them do

And now it’s gone gone gone
Tell me when did things go so wrong

We used to laugh in their face at the things that they said
And if we had to be them, then we’d rather be dead
And now we all stand in line like the rest of them do
We let it all slip away, tell me what did we do?

Midas on March 17, 2010 at 5:17 PM

It’ll work.

If Pelosi leaves out seniors.

drjohn on March 17, 2010 at 5:17 PM

Am I the only one who is really starting like Greta?

Knucklehead on March 17, 2010 at 5:16 PM

Nice lady, but don’t be deceived. She and husband are rich liberals, and they want this bill to pass.

Schadenfreude on March 17, 2010 at 5:17 PM

I’m going to go buy one of those cool wheelbarrow wallets like they used in Germany during the Weimar Republic.

Cicero43 on March 17, 2010 at 5:18 PM

Nice lady, but don’t be deceived. She and husband are rich liberals, and they want this bill to pass.

Schadenfreude on March 17, 2010 at 5:17 PM

I don’t really care if she’s a Commie, she’s done some outstanding interviews lately………and let’s the guests talk without interrupting.

Knucklehead on March 17, 2010 at 5:20 PM

O/T

Tim Cahill slams Barack Obama, Dems on health care

[Ma State Treasurer] Cahill accused Obama of “propping up” the Bay State’s health plan with federal aid in order to help push the Democrats’ plan through Congress.

“The real problem is that this . . . sucking sound of money has been going into this health-care reform,” Cahill said. “And I would argue that it’s being propped up so that the federal government and the Obama administration can drive it through.”

Cahill attacks health care law

If President Obama and the Democrats repeat the mistake of the health insurance reform here in Massachusetts on a national level, they will threaten to wipe out the American economy within four years,’’ Cahill said at a press conference.

Cahill said the law is sustained only with millions of dollars in federal aid, which he suggested the Obama administration is funneling to Massachusetts to help the president make the case for a similar plan in Congress.

“The real problem is the sucking sound of money that has been going in to pay for this health care reform,’’ Cahill said. “And I would argue that we’re being propped up so that the federal government and the Obama administration can drive it through’’ Congress.

TheBigOldDog on March 17, 2010 at 5:21 PM

I’m going to go buy one of those cool wheelbarrow wallets like they used in Germany during the Weimar Republic.

Cicero43 on March 17, 2010 at 5:18 PM

/laughs, with the humor of the gallows

Midas on March 17, 2010 at 5:21 PM

What is everyone complaining about? What is a triliion dollars among friends???

Dan Pet on March 17, 2010 at 5:21 PM

Outside of declaring war, this is the only way Congress and this administration can take over such a large portion of the U.S. Economy.

Cybergeezer on March 17, 2010 at 5:22 PM

Am I the only one who is really starting like Greta?

Knucklehead on March 17, 2010 at 5:16 PM

You know, I am glad somebody said it. I told my wife the other night that when Greta stopped doing Scott Peterson and Natalie Holloway stories, and changed her program’s paradigm away from the Nancy Grace style of show she actually has an entertaining and informative platform. I like her interview style and her new format. Long story short Knucklehead; yes I am starting to be able to watch a whole show.

alohapundit on March 17, 2010 at 5:22 PM

I should have clarified, the members of Congress will manipulate what they put into the CBO to get numbers they think will make the public happy.

truetexan on March 17, 2010 at 5:02 PM

O/T: for oakland and others of his ilk who cannot fathom why most HA posters here are skeptical of AGW zealots’ results. The numerous CBO estimates for ObamaCare provide a perfect example of how pre-ordained outcomes can be reached by deciding what data are to be used, under what assumptions, and by whichever method is used for the analysis.

An obvious favorable influence on CBO estimates all along has been to place the cost of waiving the Medicare “doc fix” out of scope for the ObamaCare estimates.

ya2daup on March 17, 2010 at 5:22 PM

PHOTOS OF OBAMA’S CHILDHOOD IN INDONESIA EMERGE!

Cybergeezer on March 17, 2010 at 5:00 PM

Here is an interesting quote from that story:

“His mother had ‘learned the chasm that separated the life chances of an American from those of an Indonesian. She knew which side of the divide she wanted her child to be on,’ he wrote in his autobiography ‘Dreams from My Father.’ ‘I was an American, she decided, and my true life lay elsewhere.’”

She decided? That seems to be a rather odd way of putting it, don’t you think?

mrsmwp on March 17, 2010 at 5:22 PM

Am I the only one who is really starting like Greta?

Knucklehead on March 17, 2010 at 5:16 PM

No, I really like her and try to watch her show when I can. I really like her “on the record” interviews with politicians.

darwin on March 17, 2010 at 5:27 PM

Nice lady, but don’t be deceived. She and husband are rich liberals, and they want this bill to pass.

Schadenfreude on March 17, 2010 at 5:17 PM

She may, but she sure hides it well. At times she seems thoroughly disgusted with the entire thing.

darwin on March 17, 2010 at 5:29 PM

GatewayPundit has a clip of the Narcissist in Chief interview where he asks about the Slaughter Rule…

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/

I’m sorry, but Baier needed to HAMMER him harder on that question, even though I know he’s trying to be respectful of the POTUS.

davek70 on March 17, 2010 at 5:29 PM

alohapundit on March 17, 2010 at 5:22 PM

She interrupts way too much.

TXMomof3 on March 17, 2010 at 5:29 PM

ya2daup on March 17, 2010 at 5:22 PM

I just hope that now the truth of how things work in Washington are being openly exposed and people are actually paying attention – Backroom deals, Air Force one flights, the Slaughter Rule, how to get a favorable score from the CBO (who can only score what is in front of them which may not even be the bill), etc. – Americans will really hold reps accountable at the ballot box. If they turn out to be slimy and corrupt, they get booted back home by the voters.

truetexan on March 17, 2010 at 5:30 PM

It looks bad all the same. He basically says that he couldn’t care less about rules or the Constitution as long as he gets what he wants.

andy85719 on March 17, 2010 at 5:30 PM

Still standing by…Where ya at, CBO?

changer1701 on March 17, 2010 at 5:31 PM

Am I the only one who is really starting like Greta?

Knucklehead on March 17, 2010 at 5:16 PM
No, I really like her and try to watch her show when I can. I really like her “on the record” interviews with politicians.

darwin on March 17, 2010 at 5:27 PM

We occassionally do – then my wife distracts me with a comment like “I hear what she’s saying, but… why doesn’t her face move when she talks?”

Midas on March 17, 2010 at 5:31 PM

One trillion dollars! Wow. For a little perspective think about this: one trillion seconds is 31,700…wait for it…wait for it….YEARS!

jimmy2shoes on March 17, 2010 at 5:31 PM

Rumor has it The One is screaming in his office about “Whose bright idea was it that I go on Fox?”

A weasel doesn’t like to be portrayed as a weasel.

GarandFan on March 17, 2010 at 5:31 PM

I have been watching Greta for a while. I think she started changing some of her views and started to become a more fiscal consertive after porkulus was passed. She hammered the dems on porkulus and she’s still following it up by asking where are the jobs. I think she has that same view on this healthcare pos. It seems to me anyways because she keeps asking the Republicans if they are still trying to kill the bill.

Brat4life on March 17, 2010 at 5:33 PM

I’m skeptical, but commenters in the Pelosi thread are buzzing so let’s have at it.

The longer it takes for the numbers to be announced, the more likely it’s true.

AUINSC on March 17, 2010 at 5:34 PM

Allah and fellow HotAir-heads.

Now is not the time to get depressed.

oh,that’s a good one. AP’s natural state is one of laconic indolence. he’d have to work up a real head of steam to call himself depressed.

DrW on March 17, 2010 at 5:35 PM

jimmy2shoes on March 17, 2010 at 5:31 PM

Its also a tad over $3000 for every man woman and child in America, including those who do not pay taxes…

Romeo13 on March 17, 2010 at 5:36 PM

One trillion dollars! Wow. For a little perspective think about this: one trillion seconds is 31,700…wait for it…wait for it….YEARS!

jimmy2shoes on March 17, 2010 at 5:31 PM

Hehe, wow.

Midas on March 17, 2010 at 5:37 PM

Any unexpected change

This administration uses that word “unexpected” an awful lot. And here I thought it was composed of ‘the best and brightest’.

Any truth to the rumor that Obama has called in the head of the CBO and accused him of ‘being a traitor’?

GarandFan on March 17, 2010 at 5:38 PM

ObamaCommiecare = LEGAL EXTERMINATION

ms on March 17, 2010 at 5:49 PM

Brat4life on March 17, 2010 at 5:33 PM

I think the Rush Limbaugh interview changed her life, and not the interview itself but the pre-interview conversation that she had with him before going on the air. I don’t know it as a fact, but her whole demeanor changed, in my mind, after that interview.

alohapundit on March 17, 2010 at 5:59 PM

Two minutes till 6:00…

“Festival! Festival! Festival!”
/ST:TOS, “Return of the Archons!

Mary in LA on March 17, 2010 at 5:59 PM

I don’t know. I keep being reminded of a Red Rider song when I see these Demoncrats.

Lunatic fringe
I know you’re out there
You’re in hiding
And you hold your meetings
We can hear you coming
We know what you’re after
We’re wise to you this time
We won’t let you kill the laughter.

Lunatic fringe
In the twilight’s last gleaming
This is open season
But you won’t get too far
We know you’ve got to blame someone
For your own confusion
But we’re on guard this time
Against your final solution

We can hear you coming
(We can hear you coming)
No you’re not going to win this time
We can hear the footsteps
(We can hear the footsteps)
Way out along the walkway
Lunatic fringe
We know you’re out there
But in these new dark ages
There will still be light

An eye for an eye;
Well before you go under…
Can you feel the resistance?
Can you feel the thunder?

jack herman on March 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM

Any truth to the rumor that Obama has called in the head of the CBO and accused him of ‘being a traitor’?

GarandFan on March 17, 2010 at 5:38 PM

Good Lord! Where did you hear that?

Mary in LA on March 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM

Both chambers know that if Obamacare is given to Obama it will cost either the Senate through reconciliation, or the House through the Slaughter. Thoughts?

Pretty inciteful analysis. However, I think the problem with this administration is arrogance and not cunning. I believe they do no look that far down the road. They have certainly shown no interest in heavy lifting or strategy beyond putting Obama out there to inflame the enemy and demoralize his own troops. The fact that they cannot see that their own guy is such an albatross indicates to me that they are not playing beyond the next phone call.

ObjectionSustained on March 17, 2010 at 6:01 PM

Whoops. Missed another deadline.

andy85719 on March 17, 2010 at 6:02 PM

WTF? Seriously, what a case of bullshiite this is, trying to scalpel a bill to shave 50 billion from a 1 trillion price tag.

Bishop on March 17, 2010 at 6:05 PM

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