Obama on Slaughter strategy: “I don’t spend a lot of time worrying about what the … rules are”; Update: “Combative” video added
posted at 5:18 pm on March 17, 2010 by Allahpundit
Don’t worry, he only means procedural rules. Like, say, the filibuster. Which he spent quite a bit of time worrying about when he was part of the minority in the Senate, oddly enough.
That quote’ll look awfully sweet on a 2012 campaign button.
“I don’t spend a lot of time worrying about what the procedural rules are in the House or Senate,” Obama said. “What I can tell you is that the vote that’s taken in the House will be a vote for health care reform. And if people vote yes, whatever form that takes, that is going to be a vote for health care reform. And I don’t think we should pretend otherwise. And if they don’t, if they vote against it, then they’re going to be voting against health care reform and they’re going to be voting in favor of the status quo.
“So Washington gets very concerned with these procedures in Congress, whether Republicans are in charge or Democrats are in charge,” he said.
By “very concerned,” I presume he means that Republicans will sue his ass if he tries this. Which they will: Jon Kyl told Hugh Hewitt that there’ll be lawsuits aimed at both the process and substance (read: the individual mandate) of the bill, and Virginia’s attorney general went so far as to send Pelosi a letter all but threatening a Supreme Court challenge if she goes ahead with the Slaughter strategy. In fact, Mark Levin’s legal foundation has already drafted the papers. All they’re waiting for is Pelosi to pull the trigger — which, as I’ve said all along, I suspect she won’t do. Too many risks, too few benefits. For what little it’s worth, a Freeper claims to have contacted John Barrow’s office this afternoon to complain about the Slaughter plan and been told that it was dead as of just 15 minutes before. Something to keep an eye on if you’re watching the wires.
Oh, forgot to mention: The Obama quote comes from The One’s trip this afternoon back to “the scene of the crime,” the video of which we’ll have later. Don’t worry about this being a spoiler; the tension between him and Bret Baier during the interview should make it worth watching regardless.
Update: Via Radio Vice Online, here’s the clip from this afternoon’s Shep. The One does not look pleased.
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I dont think it possible for me to hate this man any more than I do right now. Maybe tomorrow he’ll find a way tp up the ante
Viper1 on March 17, 2010 at 8:20 PM
So basically no mater if
a vote is taken or not,
if health care gets enough votes or not,
ALL votes regardless if “Ya” or “Nay” will be deemed “YA”!
Strange? I thought the RULES were in the Constitution, that little thing he swore to abide?
DSchoen on March 17, 2010 at 8:22 PM
Obama was so frustrated he started waving his hand around as if he were trying out a Jedi mind trick.
ROCnPhilly on March 17, 2010 at 8:23 PM
Exactly, and will that bit be picked up by all the people who screamed Bush was shredding the Constitution. I know it will not but the hypocrisy and arrogance of the left is unbelievable on the topic of the Constitution and rights.
bluemarlin on March 17, 2010 at 8:28 PM
PM
Oh yeah, oops. My mind was thinking 10 Commandments but my fingers wrote King & I. Must have been the wardrobes.
Over30 on March 17, 2010 at 8:42 PM
The process mr obama is what distinquishes us from dictatorships. This dude is so transparent, he cannot hide his true roots.
FireBlogger on March 17, 2010 at 8:47 PM
Even my slightly liberal cousin, who voted for Obama, is appalled by the mere thought of the Demonpass.
ladyingray on March 17, 2010 at 8:48 PM
Like reconciliation, the Republicans were for “Deem and Pass” before they were against it.
Okay, carry on whining…
chumpThreads on March 17, 2010 at 8:54 PM
Remember that during his “community organizing” days in Chicago, ObaMao relied on grievance mongering via select groups and “in your face” tactics against opposition. ObaMao has never learned how to accept the word “No!” nor to compromise.
onlineanalyst on March 17, 2010 at 8:54 PM
You do realize that when he was studying the constitution, it was not out of admiration, it was to find loopholes.
kurtzz3 on March 17, 2010 at 9:06 PM
You are ignorant of how things have worked in the past. Also, it won’t pass by a vote and if they go Slaughter the court will strike it down. Silly little trolls you exhibit your stupidity so often.
CWforFreedom on March 17, 2010 at 9:13 PM
How about the “Smelt Screwing”?
Hazzard on March 17, 2010 at 9:14 PM
Literal translation…
Wyatt Earp: What makes a man like Obama, Doc? What makes him do the things he does?
Doc Holliday: A man like Obama has got a great big hole, right in the middle of him. He can never kill enough, or steal enough, or inflict enough pain to ever fill it.
Wyatt Earp: What does he want?
Doc Holliday: Revenge.
Wyatt Earp: For what?
Doc Holliday: Bein’ born.
Hazzard on March 17, 2010 at 9:18 PM
Chumpy-
Let me ask you a question though I realize a serous thought out response may be difficult but bear with me. If the Pubs and Dems play this game of “but they did it too”, where does that leave America? Are we left with corruption, unconstitutional procedures, and unimaginable debt forever? Is that how it works?
Idiots like you fall for that game at the expense of the people as a whole. When will you stand up for ethics and the Constitution ye useful idiot?
CWforFreedom on March 17, 2010 at 9:18 PM
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Yup… In the end this could be the quote of the decade. It’s who said it, when he said it, and what it really means… As in, the dictator wanna be said it… on the home court of the only large media outlet that is in opposition to his government take over of our freedoms… and it means he doesn’t care what we think… He believes his desired outcome (dictatorship) is in the long run a done deal. Bast*rd.
RalphyBoy on March 17, 2010 at 9:28 PM
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Voted Yes on Health Care, Currently Undecided on Next Health Care Takeover Vote
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Voted Yes on Health Care, Currently Undecided on Next Health Care Takeover Vote
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ginaswo on March 17, 2010 at 9:32 PM
Love it.
Rae on March 17, 2010 at 9:37 PM
From “thinkprogress.org”:
Don’t make me bring up Mike Pence (R-Hypocrite). Okay, I will anyway (also from thinkprogress):
CW, you can scream all you want, but I’ve put you on ignore. You’re not worthy.
chumpThreads on March 17, 2010 at 9:37 PM
You don’t get it chump. We the People are tired of the parlimentry tricks, the spending, the debt, the aristocracy, the over-reach …. by Republican and Democrat.
Pass that bill … by deem, bribe, vote, whatever … and you should consider the fuse on the powder keg to be lit.
This country is approaching a point of civil disobedience, and worse, that will make the ’60s look like a rowdy children’s classroom … brace yourself.
Such actions or activity against the law? Do you think people will give a flying hoot after watching these current shenanigans, then presented with blatent government theft and redistribution, only to watch the non-producers benefit, then demand more? Show me where the rule of means anything in this country anymore.
History is repeating itself.
AZ_Redneck on March 17, 2010 at 9:53 PM
And all the previous uses of the self-executing rule affected 1/6 of our economy and millions of Americans, right chump? Oh, they were bi-partisan too, unlike this stealth Obamacare bill full of bribes and armtwisting.
conservative pilgrim on March 17, 2010 at 9:56 PM
I think this man is a awful.
chaswv on March 17, 2010 at 9:59 PM
What makes someone this cold, this calculating, this Obamaish?
20 years in the pews of hate at Jeremiahs’ church of Perpetual Blame and Victimhood?
Being married to a woman who let it slip that she had never been proud of her country prior to the ascension of the Chicago Thug?
Being school in Marxism by his ummm, “mentor” Frank Marshall Davis?
Being raised as a child to the sound of prayer at the Mosque in Indonesia?
By being “supported” by various people thru college and being put in all the right positions for just such as “transforming” as we’re seeing now?
How about that slip about his “muslim faith” to Stephanopolus?
How about his comments to Joe the Plumber in 2008 about wanting him to “share” his wealth with people that have already sucked a trillion plus dollars of U.S. money over the last 40 years….and it’s still not enough.
How about his purposeful, shameless, attempt to block care for infants “BORN ALIVE” while he was in the Illinois Senate to deny them medical care though they survived a failed late term abortion.
What makes him tick?……..What makes him driven to destroy “transform” this nation?
PappyD61 on March 17, 2010 at 10:02 PM
Really? Who? Who are you talking about? Teabaggers?
I don’t believe it. Not for a second. This is nothing more than a lot of whizzing and whining by people who don’t like the President.
I’m sorry the bill isn’t for single payer and I’m pizzed off that there’s no public option. But I don’t give a toss what kind of parlimentary hand job they use to pass it. It’s going to be done. Period.
Start liking it!
chumpThreads on March 17, 2010 at 10:04 PM
Is Barack Hussein Obama in violation of his Presidential Oath of Office?
You Decide…..
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_office_of_the_President_of_the_United_States
PappyD61 on March 17, 2010 at 10:06 PM
You want to invoke bipartisanship after the Republicans have stonewalled the process from the beginning? HAHAHAHAhahaha!
Read Cantor’s quote and get back to me.
chumpThreads on March 17, 2010 at 10:08 PM
Since when do communists play by rules? They make them up as needed.
margretto on March 17, 2010 at 10:10 PM
OT: Hillbuzz has a non-photoshopped Newsweek cover of Michelle ObamaO posing in front of an anti-obestiy, healthy apple. The trouble is that the apple reflects a picture of Karl Marx.
http://hillbuzz.org/2010/03/16/why-is-there-a-picture-of-karl-marx-hidden-on-this-apple-in-the-latest-newsweek-cover-of-our-fashion-icon-first-lady/
onlineanalyst on March 17, 2010 at 10:19 PM
“How about the US Constitution Mr. Obama? Do you give any thought to that, and your sworn duty to uphold it?”
The man-child was actually crossing his fingers behind his back so it didn’t really count. It was at the same time that this was happening http://timesonline.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2009/02/16/rahm_emanuel_2.jpg
margretto on March 17, 2010 at 10:22 PM
What are you talking about “Republicans have stonewalled the process”? Get your facts straight chump. The Democrats have intentionally kept the Republicans out of the legislative process on Obamacare and ignored their ideas. They feigned interest in any GOP ideas at the Healthcare Summit. Incidentally, the country was shocked to learn that Republicans had been offering proposals all along.
Regarding your comments on the self-executing rule…..
I am not arguing on behalf of the Republicans or Democrats use of the self-executing rule. I did not know the Republicans used this rule before and was, quite frankly, shocked and dismayed when I found that out. Neither party should be using this rule.
Given the volume of bipartisan opposition to this bill, this is not the time for any party to be using a procedural trick to pass this bill. If you want to continue to argue the validity of using this rule now, then you reveal yourself simply as a selfish ideologue.
conservative pilgrim on March 17, 2010 at 10:23 PM
nah. we detest leveling schemes (the term used by the founding fathers for socialism) and tyrants.
my bust, i don’t spend much time out here any more. you must be a new troll… and i fed you. my bad.
curious, does the seiu keep ya busy out here? do you get paid per word, per post, or per argument thread?
enjoy your evening. cya on the field.
AZ_Redneck on March 17, 2010 at 10:28 PM
Oh goodie, another brainless crap weasel!
Midas on March 17, 2010 at 10:30 PM
So….you really are an idiot, aren’t you?
xblade on March 17, 2010 at 10:34 PM
Thinkprogress = Soros funded, Podesta founded, biased Dem house organ.
Not a legit source.
massrighty on March 17, 2010 at 10:34 PM
Taranto as WSJ’s “Best of the Web” has this great tidbit closing an analysis of Dem shenanigans to pass O-care:
onlineanalyst on March 17, 2010 at 10:36 PM
chumpThreads on March 17, 2010 at 10:04 PM
Go away troll. I am deeming you gone, forever. Go play with your little friends at HuffPo and DKos. This thread is for the grown ups.
margategop517 on March 17, 2010 at 10:36 PM
Your argument seems to be “it was done in the past, so can be done again, with impugnity.
By this justification, all lawlessness is justified (murder, rape, theft, mayhem,) because it’s been done in the past.
massrighty on March 17, 2010 at 10:38 PM
So Cantor and Pence didn’t say what they said?
chumpThreads on March 17, 2010 at 10:38 PM
Impossible to say; find same citatations from a credible source.
Non-credible sources are, simply, not credible.
(Means you can’t trust them…)
massrighty on March 17, 2010 at 10:39 PM
We deem your citations invalid.
massrighty on March 17, 2010 at 10:40 PM
No, my argument is that “Deem and Pass” has been used by both parties and it’s not unconstitutional.
The rest of your comment is too stupid for consideration.
chumpThreads on March 17, 2010 at 10:40 PM
Yet, you considered it.
massrighty on March 17, 2010 at 10:41 PM
No it’s not. The original sources are right there. You’d know that if you weren’t so lazy.
So you can ignore those too? Wipe your own nose.
chumpThreads on March 17, 2010 at 10:44 PM
When was the constitutionality of Deem and Pass ruled on by SCOTUS?
Words mean things, skippy.
massrighty on March 17, 2010 at 10:45 PM
“I will focus like a lazer on jobs!”
Yah, right!
I hate to say this, but my husband says he has a way to make the bill fail. Nancy could promise that she would have sex with anyone who votes for the bill. Eeks! Sorry, but it is kind of funny……
Bambi on March 17, 2010 at 10:45 PM
Refreshing — The first real press conference with the prez from 2008 – until now! Happy St. Patty’s Day!
Travis1 on March 17, 2010 at 10:56 PM
The MSM gave this guy a pass during the campaign. They also lied about certain aspects of his background, or at least promulgated some myths. First and foremost was that he was a Constitution scholar that taught Constitutional Law. Wish I could recall several mistatements he’s made about the Constitution.
Additionally, he held the exalted post of President of the Harvard Law Review. I’d sure like to know how he pulled that off. From what I’ve seen, i’d never hire him as a lawyer. He’s made several public statements that were unlawyer like such as saying that the Cambridge Police acted “stupidly” and pronouncing Khalid Sheik Muhammed guilty thereby polluting a potential jury pool.
Ripama on March 17, 2010 at 11:01 PM
Process = Constitution.
obama doesn’t care about the process…i heard he doesn’t care about the constitution.
poppieseeds on March 17, 2010 at 11:01 PM
Actually as they want to use Deem and Pass it is unconstitutional . You are truly ignorant. If they do it you will see. BTW you should be terrified that they would use it to pass such a law. You useful idiots will tolerate ANYTHING.
CWforFreedom on March 17, 2010 at 11:05 PM
CWforFreedom on March 17, 2010 at 11:06 PM
Far too simple for the useful idiot
CWforFreedom on March 17, 2010 at 11:07 PM
I wonder what the rest of the media thought as it watched a real journalist ask fair but tough questions of the President. Baier had a tough task as the President prattled on. Baier could’ve looked like an impudent jerk – but he didn’t because he wasn’t. Obama was flustered with a reporter who asked tough questions and even tougher follow up questions.
If any serious person had any questions as to why Fox News has the highest ratings – this interview is why. (I have to admit Special Report is really the only news show I care to watch any more.)
Sheerq on March 17, 2010 at 11:14 PM
With the rest of the media giving the President a “teabagging” while the President “mudslides” the nation, it nice to see that at least one news organization still knows how to ask meaningful questions.
J_Crater on March 17, 2010 at 11:15 PM
Obambi is nincompoop. “you will know what’s in the bill, it will be posted on Friday night at 11pm.”
This what we get for loving “Feelings” and not principle.
I didn’t vote for this loser.
FIRST Affirmative Action prez and it shows.
Some commentator said Obamabi new what was in the bill; I remember 9 months ago they asked him about a key item in the bill. “I’m not familiar with that provision”
Moron
An Embarrassment
What a Fraud
An ideologue
If he had his way he’d be Chavez for sure
Firing Inspector Generals
Attacking normal citizen, Joe the Plumber, Hannity, Rush, et al.
Bush always said, Freedom of Speech is a Wonderful thing.
He didn’t have to attack citizen.
father on March 17, 2010 at 11:20 PM
Republicans can’t “stonewall” a process when the dems have a filibuster proof House and Senate genius…..
….this whole problem is a result of democrats not agreeing with this loser bill and the American people being overwhelmingly against it.
….of course liberals like you are only worried about “the will of the people” when it suits your agenda.
Chumps likes to break out what Republicans were saying about using this process on much smaller legislation….
…how about what democrats have said about it ….you know…when they were against it before they were for it.
Democrat Steny Hoyer in 2003
Here is video of Hoyer ranting about how terrible the use of the slaughter rule is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_1Zr4B_j9Y&feature=player_embedded
…and how about this gem chump:
that is from Louise slaughter herself….you know….when she was against this bill before she was for it.
Kind of like watching all the super righteous liberals that were protesting in the streets about how terrible war is and Bush’s policies…but now that Obama is waging war with these same policies ….War IS the answer!!!!
The code pink/move on crowd have gone from the streets to the coffee shops…how courageous….and pathetic.
If your government takeover of health care is so great chumps…how come you liberals have bent over for just about every lobbyist in town for it,had to bribe your own party members for their votes,had to craft it behind closed doors,and now have to lie about the supposed “benefits and cost reductions” of it.
……no lie,bribe,or corrupt process is to bad for liberals like chumps as long as they can fulfill their leftist agenda…..
…shows how much a joke “Hope and Change” has been.
Baxter Greene on March 17, 2010 at 11:21 PM
All liberals have an expiration date on the faux outrage….
…just ask Cindy Sheehan.
Baxter Greene on March 17, 2010 at 11:23 PM
None of us are responsible for getting you health care.
Badger40 on March 17, 2010 at 11:31 PM
neurosculptor on March 17, 2010 at 8:05 PM
Thank you for the summary, neurosculptor. I wish I had even a bit of your judiciously cautious optimism, but I think it will pass, even though it will be an altered version of the Senate bill. Then, illegal and unconstituional as it is, berri will sign it. It will be law, and will have to be challenged in the courts. It will never go back to the senate. And the deem & pass and reconciliation smokescreens are mere distractions from this reality.
tigerlily on March 17, 2010 at 11:32 PM
Just made the mistake of watching a bit of this on Drudge. The unmannered mule in chief filibustered Bret into oblivion.
Bret is a Marine and our arrogant turkey doesn’t even deserve to look at Bret’s shoes. Instead it was an insult the way Bret was treated.
“I, me, my healthcare…me and I again” – such unprecedented arrogance must be, and will be punished.
Schadenfreude on March 17, 2010 at 11:39 PM
Come 2011, he is SO impeached.
leftnomore on March 17, 2010 at 11:44 PM
I want to amend my earlier comment and state that Jake Tapper of ABC News has been a true news reporter during the age of Obama. That makes 1 on ABC, and a combined 0 on CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, and PBS.
Sheerq on March 17, 2010 at 11:45 PM
The problem is this says nothing about what it means to pass bills. Further, Article 1 Section 5 says
In particular, this includes how they decide when something is passed.
So this isn’t a constitutional issue.
That still doesn’t really make criticism hypocritical, however. The thing that separates this situation from the other times its been used is that in this case, it is being used to circumvent the consequences of the recent election, and to give members cover to pretend they don’t support the Senate bill on its own.
The nature of this thing is that by allowing them to vote on both packages at the same time, they are able to pretend that they only support the Senate bill provided all of the “fixes” (e.g., amendments that remove certain kickbacks) are included. But Senate bill itself gets sent to the President, whereas the the amendments get sent to the Senate, where they may easily die.
So the real issue isn’t so much Congress doing something unconstitutional, as it is them being disingenuous.
(For the record, they probably are also in violation of the constitution anyway, for other reasons, such as the mandate. )
Also, though not unconstitutional, deem and pass is a bad rule, and while both sides have used it, sometimes it takes major, controversial legislation like this to make it clear to everyone that a rule really is bad and needs to be done away with. Republicans should make overturning “Deem and Pass” a platform in their House campaigns this fall.
RINO in Name Only on March 17, 2010 at 11:47 PM
I’d pay good money to see someone kick Obama’s butt all the way to Venezuela.
Daggett on March 18, 2010 at 12:09 AM
If Medicare (government ins.) has the highest claim rejection rate now just think what’s going to happen when they insure “30 million” people. And you want the public option. HAHAHA. Mark my words if Obamacare passes, someone close to you or maybe you will not get the cancer treatment, hip replacement or whatever necessary treatment needed to live. The government will dictate to your doctor the kind of treatment you will be able to have.
And when that happpens I hope you remember your idiotic posts on Hot Air … because Karma’s a bitch.
redridinghood on March 18, 2010 at 12:19 AM
You’re wrong RINO. This isn’t merely about procedure setting. The fact is there are TWO Bills. One the House passed. Another the Senate passed. For a Bill to be LAW it MUST be passed by BOTH Houses. Where is the BILL passed by BOTH Houses? It doesn’t exist. Pretending (deeming) a Senate Bill was voted and PASSED by the House isn’t a procedural issue. It ignoring the rule of law making completely!
I suggest people rent the School House Rocks video and pay particularly close attention to the song called I’m Just A Bill. That might help the ones who find the process dificult to understand. /sarc
Sultry Beauty on March 18, 2010 at 12:30 AM
I wonder if the Dixie Chicks are proud of their president now?
miron on March 18, 2010 at 12:41 AM
Bump…just to be perfectly clear.
Fighton03 on March 18, 2010 at 1:04 AM
At least, Chauncey Gardener was kind, is some aspect.
betsyz on March 18, 2010 at 1:43 AM
in, not is.
betsyz on March 18, 2010 at 1:46 AM
Somebody spent a helluva lotta time trolling this one page. I count 24 entries for the chump of the day. ON. ONE. FREAKIN’. PAGE.
Troll of the week goes to…. drum roll please….
Johnny Appleseed.
Hey, chumpy, you didn’t think it would be that easy, didja?
Shitferbrains, otherwise known as ChumpSalad.
hillbillyjim on March 18, 2010 at 2:15 AM
Obama was an insufferable pri*k, who filibustered on purpose and who loves to hear himself talk, with NO regards for Bret.
Bret, a Marine, apologizes to the impolite, undeserving and rude host. Talk about manners and the difference among men and boys.
Schadenfreude on March 18, 2010 at 2:15 AM
The contrast was, to put it nicely, rather stark.
There are several children’s fables that come to mind, but the O-jesus wouldn’t have a reference point anyway, so why bother. Suffice it to say: So long Hope. So long, Change. So long, Chicago Jesus. Pretender. Bastard. Stealer of dreams. Shame on you and your legacy, such that it is.
hillbillyjim on March 18, 2010 at 2:23 AM
That is only in the case of a veto override:
The constitution states (Article 1, section 5) that the house sets its own rules for its procedures. So house rules, not the constitution, determine whether something has passed the house. So if the house, following its own rules, says “We have passed the senate bill”, then they have passed the senate bill, period.
What their rule apparently says is that they can have a single vote on two separate bills. As long as that is in the house rules, than they are on (legally) safe grounds.
None of this changes the fact that they are a bunch of power hungry jackasses who probably ARE violating the constitution with the provisions of the bill itself, since the use of the commerce clause to justify the mandate here is absurd. But the procedure itself is not unconstitutional, as long as the house, via its own rules, concludes that the senate bill itself is passed.
RINO in Name Only on March 18, 2010 at 2:34 AM
….but according to The Annointed One, nobody cares.
Right.
hillbillyjim on March 18, 2010 at 2:39 AM
I love Brett Baier! He represents what all journalists should aspire to be. Just the facts sir!
sarahpalinfan99 on March 18, 2010 at 2:40 AM
If we had an actual media that did its actual job this wouldn’t actually be happening. Would it?
hillbillyjim on March 18, 2010 at 2:41 AM
If we had actual news media…
should replace:
If we had an actual media…
I extend my apologies for my profoundly incorrect grammar usage…and stuff.
hillbillyjim on March 18, 2010 at 2:46 AM
Now that’s ironic, and funny.
hillbillyjim on March 18, 2010 at 2:50 AM
Support the Rand Paul money bomb.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqX43ry5Bqk
Spathi on March 18, 2010 at 5:31 AM
I’m trying to remember to pray for my enemies and those who try to harm me.
I just never thought it would be our President. Because yes, I think his “Slaughtering” of the Constitution is harmful, will bankrupt my children, and will lead to the downfall of the most Christian nation on earth.
God bless America. Bless her forever.
Grace_is_sufficient on March 18, 2010 at 6:31 AM
I have faith in the American people. They will ultimately smack down the filthy lying coward in the White House and the radical socialist agenda of the left. The question is how much damage is done to America befor that smack down occurs.
I’m not a hateful person but, God as my witness, I hate Obama and all that he stands for.
highhopes on March 18, 2010 at 6:46 AM
Who? :-0
Speaking of mindless morons, notice how the trolls went to ground the minute the Slaughter Solution (aka “Demon pass”- Deem and Pass) came out. Even they cannot defend this anti-Constitutional tactic.
highhopes on March 18, 2010 at 6:49 AM
A liberal who thinks the rules don’t apply to him.
Funny, because if this monstrosity passes…I won’t care what the “rules” are, either.
By the way – if this passes, since politicians and their families (who are citizens just like me and my children) – wouldn’t we be able to sue to block this thing because it provides for unequal protection under the law?
englishqueen01 on March 18, 2010 at 7:09 AM
Obviously he doesn’t care what it takes to get to socialized medicine. It wouldn’t surprise me to see, if the vote fails in the house, Obama declare marshall law as a result of a “financial emergency” and dictate the implementation of “healthcare reform” by executive order.
olesparkie on March 18, 2010 at 7:47 AM
I keep sighing and I’m not sure why!!! What a God awful mess and when you think that it’s caused by only a handful of Dems in the WH and on the hill–sighing again. It was so preventable. A man with judgment and and some distant semblance of wisdom and a lot less ego could have, would have, avoided all this or at least kept it minimal. Talk about being tempermentally unfit for your job, he gives it new dimension.
jeanie on March 18, 2010 at 7:49 AM
Giggle…isn’t is our consitutional right to have a better class of trolls?
katy the mean old lady on March 18, 2010 at 8:03 AM
I foresee an uprising by the public if the Dems can’t pass this in a way that seems consistent with the normal legislative process. Pelosi and Slaughter can pat themselves on the back and tell each other how clever it is to use “demon pass” but the American public isn’t buying it at all. Most of the discussion yesterday was the sleight of hand the Dems were using in place of the normal procedures. That’s not good if you are trying to get Obamacare passed.
highhopes on March 18, 2010 at 8:15 AM
The HA trolls are fine but I just find it curious they disappear when the indefensible is on the table. They were all over the place insisting that healthcare is a right, that the crisis is urgent, that premiums would go down with the public option, etc. Pure DNC talking points.
But…. When it comes to defending state-seizure of 1/6th of the economy without even a vote, they aren’t around. I don’t know if HA trolls have shame or just know they can’t defend “demon pass” but I’m not complaining we are momentarily free of the lies about Obamacare.
highhopes on March 18, 2010 at 8:21 AM
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There are about 50 people in our building at work… 3 hip replacements, at least 2 major knee operations, a couple cancers in remission, and the list goes on. Counting families… I’m sure this amazing healthcare system that we have right now is responsible for dozens of saved lives and cases of reduced suffering.
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Yet, a number of those very people I mention above think ObamaCare will be so much more effective and compassionate in administering heath care that they are willing to risk all this on that 2700 page wish. Brainwashing works. Slogans and demonizing opponents as being ’mean spirited’ creates blind spots to the realities of the world.
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RalphyBoy on March 18, 2010 at 8:21 AM
Why would he spend a lot of time worrying about something that he thinks clearly doesn’t apply to him. Hey, he won the election and now we have to do what he tells us to, or else! POS!
TrickyDick on March 18, 2010 at 8:36 AM
Deamon Pass, Slaughter House Rule, Self Execution.
Folks, you can’t make this stuff up.
This bill will die this weekend. They do not have the votes, period.
This will go down in US History has the greatest political defeat for any President and Congress.
Then, the fun starts….watching how Obama, Pelosi and Reid try to Govern before 2 of them are voted out of office in November.
tatersalad on March 18, 2010 at 8:44 AM
Agree but then I always think that about Obama, Pelosi and Reid and they always find a wait to squeeze a little more hate out of me.
NoDonkey on March 18, 2010 at 8:47 AM
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