Exclusive: Study shows ObamaCare will destroy as many as 700,000 jobs by 2019
posted at 8:45 am on March 17, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
During the ObamaCare summit three weeks ago, Nancy Pelosi declared that the bill would create four million jobs over the next ten years, with 400,000 new jobs created almost immediately. Pelosi relied on a study written by the left-wing advocacy group Center for American Progress for those figures, although the Bureau of Labor Statistics already predicts growth in the health-care industry of 3.2 million jobs without ObamaCare. Now, Americans for Tax Reform and the Beacon Hill Institute have conducted their own study using CAP’s methodology and determined that ObamaCare will destroy jobs, not create them. Hot Air has an exclusive first look at the BHI executive summary:
Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, has urged passage of the massive health reform plan moving through Congress as a way to create up to 400,000 jobs. Speaker Pelosi bases her claim on a report by the Center for American Progress (CAP) in which the Center estimates that the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) would create 250,000 to 400,000 jobs per year over 10 years.
This estimate by CAP amounts to a hurried effort to add academic heft to the claim that national health care reform offers a collateral benefit in the form of an economic “stimulus.” It turns out, however, that its methodology, stripped of unsupportable claims about savings in health care costs, shows just the opposite of what CAP intended. PPACA is a job killer, not a job creator.
Using the CAP methodology, we find that the bill would destroy a total of 120,000 to 700,000 jobs by 2019, a far cry from the number suggested by leading advocates.
CAP’s claim about job creation rests on its assumption that various developments ensuing from passage of the bill – upgrades in medical technology, the promotion of preventive care and the reduction in administrative costs – would save $683 billion over ten‐years and thus set in motion new incentives for firms to create jobs. The trouble is that the claimed costs savings are at odds with estimates from both Congress and the Executive Branch, which, together, are responsible for considering and ultimately implementing the legislation.
There is no evidence that the projected savings proposed by the Obama administration, particularly in areas such as preventive care, would ever materialize. The literature cited by proponents is speculative at best. Also, there is no guarantee that the administration would be successful in lowering insurance premiums while expanding coverage, without limiting access to health care. …
Once we dismiss purported cost savings such as the proposed Medicare cuts, the job gains produced by the CAP methodology become job losses. We utilized the same econometric model used by the CAP authors to derive employment effects of PPACA, but with the unsupportable costs savings stripped from the model. We provide two estimates:
- The first estimate applies the CAP methodology to the CMS estimate that the PPACA would increase national health expenditures by $24.8 billion over the baseline case by 2019. This estimate shows that PPACA would kill 120,000 jobs by 2019.
- The second estimate applies the CAP methodology to a scenario in which we begin with the CMS estimate but in addition eliminate the $437 billion in Medicare cuts assumed by CAP and then factor in an additional $70 billion in discretionary spending that the CBO indicated would take place under the Bill. The addition of these figures would increase national health expenditures by $148.8 billion in 2019 and thus kill 700,000 jobs by 2019.
ATR and BHI will roll out the entire study later today.









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That was quick.
Mr Purple on March 17, 2010 at 8:47 AM
Like Pelosi said, it’s a jobs bill. She never said it was a good jobs bill.
myrenovations on March 17, 2010 at 8:48 AM
We all misheard her. We’re not getting jobs, we’re getting jobbed.
Mr. D on March 17, 2010 at 8:49 AM
Yeah but that will be offset by the 1.8M new “green jobs” created once Cap N Tax is implemented. /s
angryed on March 17, 2010 at 8:49 AM
Hmmmm. They might want to hurry up about it!
One of our local papers had a story today about Melissa Bean and Bill Foster (he’s my rep) being besieged by calls and pressure from both sides. Both say they’re undecided. Ha! That’s a crock… And both say they’re most unappreciative of being lobbied by people from outside the district.
I will work aggressively against Foster (whom I voted for before) if he votes for this monstrosity.
lizzieillinois on March 17, 2010 at 8:50 AM
If people have jobs and are working, why do they need Democrats?
Pelosi sees 700,000 more Democrats by 2019. Dependent on the corrupt, incompetent politicians for crumbs.
That’s all that matters to the Squeaker of the House.
Hope all of you who voted for Obama like begging for spare Change.
NoDonkey on March 17, 2010 at 8:50 AM
But they have no problem taking donations from outside the district!
Vote em all out and start over.
MidWestFarmer on March 17, 2010 at 8:52 AM
I don’t know about anyone else, but I am now fed up with this vile despicable woman and her lies!
Now is the time to flood Congress with emails,phone calls, letters, whatever it takes and let them know if no uncertain terms that We The People do not want this health care reform thing forced down our throats and that government should stay out this one sector more than anywhere else.
And then once the dust clears, the next step should be to work like we have never worked before to insure that come November of this year, this disgusting excuse for a human being and the rest of her Democrat ilk are thrown out of office and we can actually start getting things done in this country!
pilamaye on March 17, 2010 at 8:53 AM
Wow, 700,000 jobs and one country.
Feel the power there you hag.
BigWyo on March 17, 2010 at 8:53 AM
Maybe she meant government jobs. After all, someone in Washington has to decided if we get an MRI or an aspirin.
Beaglemom on March 17, 2010 at 8:53 AM
Not to worry, those will be made up in green jobs.
Cindy Munford on March 17, 2010 at 8:54 AM
We will become France/Germany. Perpetual unemployment rate of 10-12% with income tax rates of 50%. Only a fool can’t see what’s ahead.
angryed on March 17, 2010 at 8:54 AM
As long as those are the 700,000 jobs that Americans
won’t do, I suppose it will be o.k.
elderberry on March 17, 2010 at 8:54 AM
I just sent Bill Foster an e-mail and sent him the link to this story.
lizzieillinois on March 17, 2010 at 8:55 AM
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Answer this House Democrats. Are you willing to violate the oath of office you held your right hand up and swore to God to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic” for this bill? Answer that, I openly challenge you. That oath means something and the violations of it have real consequences.
ted c on March 17, 2010 at 8:55 AM
I haven’t reviewed the study but attacking the cost-containment assumptions seems like a good approach — since they’re completely unrealistic.
DrSteve on March 17, 2010 at 8:55 AM
There is not many healthcare professionals who are going to keep practicing if this becomes law. Trust me. I am one.
There is absolutely no way that this is not designed to destroy this economy (more so than it has already been destroyed) Where’s my bananas?
ORconservative on March 17, 2010 at 8:56 AM
Yep, just another fine example of how our government tells us the truth about important issues facing the country. These clowns really have to go. We need to get rid of ALL of the jokers that will not be honest with the public regardless of party affiliation.
Hawthorne on March 17, 2010 at 8:57 AM
Oh, you poor dears. I sob tears for you.
I have an idea, how about resigning? Just because Pelosi told you that serving in Congress was all about bribes and kickbacks, doesn’t mean that you should have taken her at her word.
Pelosi is a liar. And an idiot.
NoDonkey on March 17, 2010 at 8:58 AM
Obama is determined to turn this country into a Democrat Socialist Marxist-lite country…whatever it costs the American People.
kingsjester on March 17, 2010 at 8:58 AM
And that figure doesn’t include doctors who will leave the profession in droves, over 40% according to a poll on FOX last night.
Disturb the Universe on March 17, 2010 at 9:00 AM
Facts are stubborn things.
txhsmom on March 17, 2010 at 9:00 AM
It’s quite simple. If you’re part of the elite, you get the MRI, us serfs get the aspirin.
rbj on March 17, 2010 at 9:02 AM
Make that Solent Green jobs.
Somebody’s going to have to come up with an eco-friendly way to deal with the inevitable corpses.
Disturb the Universe on March 17, 2010 at 9:02 AM
By 2019 the United States will not exist. It will be known as the United Socialist States of America.
Then again, November this year will be fun. Pelosi will be out of a job………..
adamsmith on March 17, 2010 at 9:03 AM
Does that number include the 46+% of doctors that may voluntarily jump ship if this piece of you-know-what is “passed?”
KellyBomelly on March 17, 2010 at 9:03 AM
Good Lord…
Planning is hard. Could we just get this over with?
I need to know if I should be planning on a personal tax revolt, going completely Galt or just getting the hell out of this country before it’s too late.
The waiting is the hardest part…
Dorvillian on March 17, 2010 at 9:04 AM
Don\’t they mean it will SAVE or CREATE -700,000 jobs??
Dan Pet on March 17, 2010 at 9:05 AM
How can so many elected officials in the House and Senate not see that they are trying to destroy America. Do they not have generations to follow them whose lives will be forever hindered by these moonbats??? I just don’t understand why they want to give so much to so few at the expense of so many.
screwauger on March 17, 2010 at 9:06 AM
The Messiah had it right when he told Joe the Plumber he wanted to “spread the wealth.” The carnage his government takeover of healthcare will have among Congressional Democrats will be spread to the public at large.
olesparkie on March 17, 2010 at 9:06 AM
This makes me sick.
citrus on March 17, 2010 at 9:07 AM
Wait, do you think she means 700,00 new poets, painters and novelists?
myrenovations on March 17, 2010 at 9:07 AM
OT: Something happend overnight at intrade. Yesterday it was at 70% on healthcare passing. This morning – 35%! Wow.
Could it be this study, the report that the (Deem)ocrats are still 11 short, or something else?
WisRich on March 17, 2010 at 9:08 AM
Ed, you know those are just right-wing groups lying to us once more, right? Unicorns and rainbows are on the horizon, jobs aplenty baby! /
changer1701 on March 17, 2010 at 9:08 AM
feature, bug etc.
LibTired on March 17, 2010 at 9:09 AM
As if they have a good track record on predicting saved or created jobs….
I’m sure that this does not include the 43.7% of Doc’s that are thinking of leaving the profession if this travesty passes.
PatriotRider on March 17, 2010 at 9:10 AM
Ummm, hate to break it to you, but when you add in ALL of the taxes you pay, you are already over the 50% tax rate. It’s just spread out more than Europe. Easier to hide that way.
Johnnyreb on March 17, 2010 at 9:10 AM
Likely the CBO numbers are ugly…
PatriotRider on March 17, 2010 at 9:11 AM
How about the young people who will decide to pursue an easier and more lucrative profession? Be a worthless lawyer like Barack Obama.
Who is going to go through eight years of training after college, spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on medical school, starve as a resident, only to make less than a newly minted lawyer?
Not to mention doctors have to struggle, like any small businessman, with all of the idiotic policy changes coming out of Congress.
“Free” health care will be anything but.
NoDonkey on March 17, 2010 at 9:12 AM
This HA exclusive is an awesome catch! Expect Rush to tell of it.
Liam on March 17, 2010 at 9:13 AM
So, how many jobs saved will the White House translate?
locomotivebreath1901 on March 17, 2010 at 9:15 AM
Question: Is it possible to die from a Botox overdose? Just wondering, that’s all……
adamsmith on March 17, 2010 at 9:16 AM
All of them! /sarc
Liam on March 17, 2010 at 9:16 AM
The bottom line, based on average wages, is that any program that generates more jobs costs more.
On the other hand, if these are “jobs with justice (those higher paying jobs),” then it will cost more with possibly fewer jobs.
Simple arithmetic precudes more higher paying jobs costing less.
The simple fact is that even “waste, fraud and abuse” give people jobs and an income.
J_Crater on March 17, 2010 at 9:18 AM
My father-in-law just forwarded an email that says it all:
Let me get this straight……we’re trying to pass a health care plan written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn’t understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn’t read it but exempts themselves from it, to be signed by a president that also hasn’t read it and who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn’t pay his taxes, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that’s broke.
What the *ell could possibly go wrong?
Sekhmet on March 17, 2010 at 9:19 AM
The entire healthcare profession couldn’t prevent this if every provider, professional and technician quit their job at the exact same time.
Government will simply conscript all of them back into their old jobs. The Law that allows them exists on the books already.
Holger on March 17, 2010 at 9:19 AM
I think 700,000 is a conservative estimate, don’tcha thin insurance companies nationwide would employ that many people alone? Lord knows they won’t last until 2019 under government health care
angelwing34215 on March 17, 2010 at 9:21 AM
I can tell you it will eliminate thousands of jobs in my area, where lots of people work for insurance and pharmaceutical companies. Yet my fool Congressman, Patrick Murphy, announced yesterday he will vote for it. He is a total made-up creature of Rahm Emanuel, and has raised hundreds of thousands of dollars from the SEIU and the trial lawyers, That’s who wants this bill, and sadly I now think they can find 216 people beholden enough to them to deliver it.
This bill is the reason Rahm was hired and is still there. He is reminding all of the newer Democrats like Murphy that he put them there and he will break them if they go against him on this. I’m betting that as soon as this thing is done he will resign.
Murphy’s a dead man walking now; but I’m sure the White House has promised him some bigtime job after he loses in November. He’s young and will happily take it. I will be glad to see him gone, but if he ends up being the deciding vote on this socialized medicine bill it will be hard to take, especially for my neighbors who lose their jobs because of it.
rockmom on March 17, 2010 at 9:22 AM
A lot of the “sales” were in DC. I suspect someone gamed InTrade in an effort to discourage us.
Sekhmet on March 17, 2010 at 9:23 AM
Holger on March 17, 2010 at 9:19 AM
If healthcare is a “right”, as the “progressives” proclaim, then they will in effect, bring back slavery.
If someone has a “right” to my labor that the government enforces, no matter how you dress it up, that’s slavery.
Tea Party? Abolitionists.
NoDonkey on March 17, 2010 at 9:26 AM
The solution is simple: take whatever Pelosi, Reid, Obama, et al. say….and do the opposite!
search4truth on March 17, 2010 at 9:29 AM
We still have the courts, to bring before the Bench every single word of this mess. If it passes.
Liam on March 17, 2010 at 9:29 AM
I know this “national health care” BS has kept my husband, a newly-minted nurse from finding permanent work. Especially with all the resurrections of the bill.
The uncertainty has kept people out of the hospital, and has gotten health-care administrators not knowing whether to zig or zag in the coming year. So nobody wants to hire more nurses until there is more demand and a better idea of the direction in which things are going.
We can’t work on another kid until he has permanent work. FUBO
Sekhmet on March 17, 2010 at 9:32 AM
It is called the Health Care Personnel Delivery System… Healthcare workers quit, voila, they are conscripted back into their jobs and refusal to carry out this ‘duty’ gets you carted off to jail.
The Federal Government has become a leviathan and the only recourse is not Conservative Big Government but slash and burn Conservatism.
Holger on March 17, 2010 at 9:32 AM
It’s easier to completely control a population that is out of work and hungry. And Odamna wants total control.
We must fight against this corruption while we still have the strength left to fight. Phone calls, emails, visits to local offices, and most importantly, voting these b@st@rds out of office at the earliest opportunity–these actions must be our top priority. They are destroying our nation. They cannot be allowed to continue.
I weep for my nation.
Crusader Rabbit on March 17, 2010 at 9:35 AM
And both say they’re most unappreciative of being lobbied by people from outside the district.
Oh, you poor dears. I sob tears for you.
Consider this. How many of their actual constituents can’t reach their representatives because outsiders are blocking up the lines? People need to understand the only calls that count are those from angry constituents. Those calls from outside the district are considered “tea baggers” and malcontents by the opposition. I know the other side is doing the same thing our people to pass this. We need to defeat this one district at a time. Keep our people in the no column. Convince our yes votes to change to no. Get our undecided to decide no. Wasting time on someone elses congressperson is just that, a waste of time. You can send all the money you want to support their opponent in the coming election anyway. Support our people now and let them know you support them at this critical time. The democrat party leadership is well aware of the stakes. It is up to us to get this bill defeated.
kanda on March 17, 2010 at 9:35 AM
Hmmm, if losing millions and millions of jobs since Obama’s been in office got us to 9.7%, I wonder how they will spin hiring a measly 700,000 back? /5%?
ConservativeTony on March 17, 2010 at 9:45 AM
angryed:
The current unemployment rate in Germany is 8.6% (lower than U.S.)
Income tax rates in Germany average 30-33% for corporations.
For individuals:
0% (Married, Making up to 15,329 € /$21,075)
to 45% (Married, Making over 500 001€ /$687,477).
http://www.cfe-eutax.org/taxation/personal-income-tax/germany
albill on March 17, 2010 at 9:47 AM
Quick business point, it is never the goal of a business to create jobs. Any good business, even a health care provider, always attempts to provide more goods and services with less overhead. Jobs are a part of overhead. Whether for or against Obamacare, jobs is a bad metric to gauge it, unless you were to measure the number of health care jobs to provide $X of health care.
WashJeff on March 17, 2010 at 9:50 AM
The number may be accurate (in all the confusion, who will be able to guess which jobs were destroyed by any individual government program.) But the date is way off. Pelosi, et al, may have fuzzy dreams for an indeterminate future. But Obama is in a hurry – he’s not planning that far out.
logis on March 17, 2010 at 9:51 AM
I’ve been sending him emails for the last couple of days trying to appeal to the scientist side of him in seeing how illogical and damaging this health care reform plan really is.
Whether or not he is actually listening to us, who knows?
pilamaye on March 17, 2010 at 9:53 AM
History is repeating.
Electrongod on March 17, 2010 at 9:54 AM
There’s a simple explanation for Pelosi’s figures: she’s using the IPPC computer models.
Rovin on March 17, 2010 at 9:55 AM
Laser light focus on jobs, jobs, jobs.
I read the New England Journal where it talks of over a third of the doctors will lose their jobs, by retiring.
So we going to get an Obama bureaucrat to cut off your feet and take out your tonsils? I bet that works out for you.
The meaning of Obammunsim gets clearer by the day.
tarpon on March 17, 2010 at 9:58 AM
One of the counties in Bill Foster’s district (14th D-IL), Kane County, is reporting a 27-year high unemployment rate of 12.3%.
Bad timing for a bad bill.
Fallon on March 17, 2010 at 9:58 AM
This will not end well either way it goes. If the bill passes, there will be civil disobedience on a large scale. If not, the entitlement crowd will riot for having their freebie taken away.
GnuBreed on March 17, 2010 at 9:58 AM
I hope it costs me my job, I am sick and tired of working to improve someone else’s standard of living.
A friend, pharmacist providing infusion medications in the home, discussed with my husband, also a Medicaid provider, his plans to quit if this mess passes. My husband agreed and is thinking about getting out of the business if this crap goes through. The increased mandates on non-physician services could be devastating.
Retirement is looking better and better.
bopbottle on March 17, 2010 at 10:01 AM
Rovin, not to nitpick or to trash your comment, and trust me it was good, but I would’ve written it as:
There’s a simple explanation for Pelosi’s figures: she’s using Al Gore’s computer models. The IPCC is just a faceless organization. They would be nowhere without AlGore.
ConservativeTony on March 17, 2010 at 10:04 AM
Factor in the “ripple effect” and we’re talking some big-time numbers. This is just what our floundering economy needs. Kill some more jobs, Dumbo.
hillbillyjim on March 17, 2010 at 10:10 AM
I was going to put Albert the Great in my statement Tony, but I figured some one would extrapolate.
Rovin on March 17, 2010 at 10:13 AM
Just the consideration of this nightmare of a SNAFU has already hurt health care industry jobs.
My better half has gone from 50+ hours/wk down to under 40. The administrators are understandably uncertain about the future, and are heaping more work on less staff who were overworked to begin with.
Nice job, Democrats.
Before this is over, the nation will despise you all.
hillbillyjim on March 17, 2010 at 10:16 AM
When you’re trying to Cloward-Piven the country, people Losing their jobs is a Good thing.
Fake8 on March 17, 2010 at 10:21 AM
A study by the New England Journal of Medicine says that 46% of Doctors say they may leave the profession if Obamacare passes…46%, so who are the doctors standing behind the FLOTUS in is ads?
royzer on March 17, 2010 at 10:23 AM
Also add in that Germany isn’t the protector of the Free World. They have some extra cash to invest into their own society.
We, on the other hand, spend a lot of money on protecting other nations. Something is going to give as our social engineering cannot be on par as other countries unless we remove this added burden of global protection.
I fear that this will make us vulnerable in a bad way.
Electrongod on March 17, 2010 at 10:31 AM
Obama’s death laser is focused on American jobs. That hard pivot was Obama’s heel extinguishing more jobs like a cigarette butt.
daesleeper on March 17, 2010 at 10:33 AM
Now there’s a group with a GREAT track record. All of it WRONG!
GarandFan on March 17, 2010 at 10:53 AM
I guess BS reports from tools of the right are more reliable than BS reports from tools of the left?
tommylotto on March 17, 2010 at 11:01 AM
A gross underestimation… look for an upward bump in firings to occur immediately if this monstrosity passes.
ya2daup on March 17, 2010 at 11:10 AM
I love their use of the CAP’s own model against them. It’s forcing them to eat their own dog food. In other words, if CAP claims it’s bull on the plate, our guys can say if it is, it was all authored by you.
I’m betting they knew exactly were to cut into the model — any areas which had the comments “Fudge Factor”, or “Correct for data which does not fit hypothesis”, or any areas in the code which had comments indicating authorship by the CRU were excellent targets.
unclesmrgol on March 17, 2010 at 11:15 AM
Behold her perverse perspective on “creating jobs”! Expect a bumper crop of “artists”, “writers”, “filmmakers”, “actors” and every other example of slacker and social parasite to crop up almost immediately. Think “Coffee Party meetings, 24/7″.
ya2daup on March 17, 2010 at 11:18 AM
WHO DOES NOT KNOW, BY NOW, THAT THIS LEGISLATION WILL BE THE MOST DESTRUCTIVE TO AMERICA’S ECONOMY AND WORKFORCE IN U.S. HISTORY?
Our enemies are salivating and snickering at what this Congress is doing better than they could.
Cybergeezer on March 17, 2010 at 11:20 AM
FACT CHECK THE WHITE HOUSE PROPAGANDA ON HEALTH CARE:
http://fixhealthcarepolicy.com/reality/
Cybergeezer on March 17, 2010 at 11:25 AM
Of course it kills jobs. How else can we have a UK-style system? You need thousands on the public dole to complete the switch to socialism. What better place to start?
n0doz on March 17, 2010 at 12:00 PM
I think I’ll take up water coloring.
Thank you Nancy, thank you.
TheSitRep on March 17, 2010 at 12:17 PM
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HI KANDA 09:35 AM. I used “snail mail” to send my protests to ObamaCare, C**P and Tax, and Shamnesty to my so-called “representative”. He will vote for this stuff–his re-election is guaranteed in 80 percent Hispanic and democratic El Paso, Tx. But at least his staff will have to throw away the letters–it’s more work than deleting E-mails and taking phones off the hook.
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John Bibb
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rocketman on March 17, 2010 at 1:05 PM
Other info, When the EU with its standard currency came together, it was like a mini NAFTA or GATT. As I understand, the stronger nations benefited over the weak. While reading about the Greek financial crisis, I read a lot of businesses in Greece were uncompetitive, failed and ended up being absorbed by business in the larger nations as a result of joining the EU.
Greece, with its heavier socialist programs, like guaranteed bonuses for government workers, is non competitive compared to Germany which runs a better balance sheet only by contrast. In a merging currency and trade agreement, the big nations feed well
Also, in terms of our trade imbalance with China, I read recently France and Germany, unlike the US have the opposite situation with China, these nations selling China more than they buy from China. It could be a preference for German and French products, but I understand there is also a pressure in China not to buy American made products. This may have ended up helping the balance sheets of those two nations
entagor on March 17, 2010 at 1:57 PM
What is more important….life or health insurance?
What is more important…freedom or life?
Exit question: What is more important…freedom or health insurance?
csdeven on March 17, 2010 at 2:43 PM
Exit answer: none of the above.
The average American can live decades without medical treatment, but will die within weeks (OK, maybe months) without FOOD.
Mark my words: after Socialized Medicine passes, that will be the next collectivist power grab. And it will make everything the Progressives have done so far look like the Articles of Confederation.
logis on March 17, 2010 at 3:55 PM
They can create that many GS positions that quickly?
Dr. ZhivBlago on March 17, 2010 at 6:23 PM
OBAMACARE: Jobba-the-hitch.
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on March 17, 2010 at 9:02 PM
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