US forces not flying the flag in Haiti?
posted at 11:36 am on March 16, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
With apologies to Cole Porter — France does it, the UK does it, and even humanitarian Croats do it. The only one who won’t do it is the country that has sent the overwhelming majority of supplies and resources to Haiti after their devastating earthquake. The US refuses to fly its flag at its main relief installation in Port-au-Prince, and Army Times wonders why:
The many nations helping Haiti recover from the devastating earthquake that struck there have set up their own military compounds and fly their flags at the entrances.
France’s tricolor, Britain’s Union Jack and even Croatia’s coat of arms flap in the breeze.
But the country whose contributions dwarf the rest of the world’s — the United States — has no flag at its main installation near the Port-au-Prince airport.
The lack of the Stars and Stripes does not sit well with some veterans and servicemembers who say the U.S. government should be proud to fly the flag in Haiti, given the amount of money and manpower the U.S. is donating to help the country recover from the Jan. 12 quake.
The Obama administration says flying the flag could give Haiti the wrong idea.
“We are not here as an occupation force, but as an international partner committed to supporting the government of Haiti on the road to recovery,” the U.S. government’s Haiti Joint Information Center said in response to a query about the flag.
At first blush, it seems as though the Obama administration has been buffaloed by the French into hiding Old Glory. In the immediate aftermath of the quake and our initial response, France accused the US of conducting a de facto “occupation” of Haiti. Not surprisingly, Venezuela and Nicaragua followed suit. Ironically, the French don’t seem terribly concerned with flying their flag over Haiti despite their status as its original colonizer.
The decision not to fly the flag is an embarrassment of weakness on the part of Obama. Our nation has conducted relief efforts for decades through our military, saving millions of people from death, disease, and starvation. Like France, Britain, and Croatia, we have flown our flag during those operations not to note occupation but to represent the American people’s solidarity with those suffering from disaster. That historical record is answer itself to the lunatics in Venezuela, Nicaragua, and even France who indulge in paranoid hysteria.
Fly the flag, Mr. President. Let our actions speak for themselves, but demonstrate that we aren’t ashamed to arrive anywhere in the world with that flag flying proudly.
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John the Libertarian on March 16, 2010 at 12:10 PM
Obama Orders Army NOT To Fly U.S. Flag in Haiti
According to USAID, as of January 19, 2010 the U.S. had spent $130,864,571 on aid to the Haitian people to help them recover from the devastating earthquake. By Jan. 25 that number had already increased to $179,883,065. It is only going up from there.
http://www.publiusforum.com/2010/03/16/obama-orders-army-not-to-fly-us-flag-in-haiti/
canopfor on March 16, 2010 at 12:10 PM
think this is a reasonable consideration to minimize conflict. The only people who it matters to are people who are idealistic zealots instead of realistic pragmatists.
Norvell on March 16, 2010 at 12:08 PM
This country was founded by idealistic zealots, Scooter, and continues to be protected by them. I proudly stand with them. It’s called Patriotism.
kingsjester on March 16, 2010 at 12:10 PM
Unprecedented. No doubt Obama would also object to flying the American Flag on the Moon (We don’t want to look like Imperialist occupiers!). Maybe he’d like a flag with his mug on it that said, “We are the ones you’ve been waiting for”.
Buy Danish on March 16, 2010 at 12:11 PM
Speaking as a Viet Nam Era Navy Veteran, you better believe it bothers me when I read a story like this!
But then again, you are dealing with a POTUS who I doubt has even worn so much as a Cub Scout uniform in the course of his life, much less served any time in the military.
pilamaye on March 16, 2010 at 12:11 PM
what an embarrassment of weakness.
sesquipedalian on March 16, 2010 at 12:11 PM
Lets see,oh ya,I remember the Flag Pin Hopey didn’t wear
either until camera’s were track’n him!
canopfor on March 16, 2010 at 12:13 PM
Precedented. Unfortunately.
I ran into this same thing in Iraq in 2004. We were too concerned out the sensibilities of others and outwardly looking like we were an occupying force. So, we were not allowed to fly the flag in Iraq. Don’t know if this was theatre-wide or not, but it was certainly true in the northern Baghdad suburb of Taji in OIF2.
thomashton on March 16, 2010 at 12:13 PM
Shout out to all our Vets & Service Members. Thanks and God Bless for defending our freedom and flag.
OmahaConservative on March 16, 2010 at 12:13 PM
HOT AIR!!! Ed, Rush started his show mentioning THIS POST at Hot Air! Congrats!
I’m glad he mentioned it because this is outrageous. Rush said Obama rules like a Third World President. Very true.
conservative pilgrim on March 16, 2010 at 12:13 PM
Hate is not a strong enough word for what I feel for this treasonous b*st*rd.
Flyboy on March 16, 2010 at 12:14 PM
Good point, considering we invaded Haiti during Operation Caribbean Storm.
Bishop on March 16, 2010 at 12:14 PM
You just know that France, and Venezuela are playing Obama for the fool that he is.
I believe this was a deliberate attempt to show the world how inept Obama is…..and they proved themselves right!
Good job….Chump!
capejasmine on March 16, 2010 at 12:15 PM
You know what…if my tax dollars are going to feed and shelter people in any country in the world I want those people to know who paid for it. Fly the flag. Our tax dollars are paying for this. Money that this country does not have thanks to the stupid effing jacka$$ in office right now. My God this ticks me off more than anything.
milwife88 on March 16, 2010 at 12:15 PM
Somedays I hate to read the news because I get so pissed off at our POS leaders. After reading this, I’ve got that feeling again. I am proud to be an American. Why can’t our leaders feel the same.
oonly on March 16, 2010 at 12:16 PM
Apparently, flying the flag today does not mean what it used to mean.
Electrongod on March 16, 2010 at 12:17 PM
MY NAME IS “OLD GLORY”.
LONG MAY I WAVE.
DEAR GOD IN HEAVEN,
LONG MAY I WAVE.
highhopes on March 16, 2010 at 11:57 AM
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canopfor on March 16, 2010 at 12:17 PM
Because of this thread’s mention on Rush’s program, twenty million more Americans just got more cheesed off at Obow for this. Thanks, Rush! We luv ya!
Liam on March 16, 2010 at 12:18 PM
They’re communists, that hate this nation…and want to remake it in their images. When saying the Pledge of Allegiance, I’m guessing they’re singing 10 lil monkeys jumping on the bed, while holding their hands over their black hearts.
capejasmine on March 16, 2010 at 12:18 PM
I don’t even know how to respond to this. Being what is essentially is hardheaded despite contrary situations or evidence isn’t a positive trait, to most people. The founders of this country were idealist however hardheaded zealots I don’t know about that.
The fact of the matter in REGARDS TO HAITI, nothing else, is that 1) there are already conspiracies, not just from the french, that this is a front for occupation and 2) that is not unfounded from a historical perspective because we have militarily invaded haiti, interfered with their government and financial system. If you don’t see the reasoning behind while toning down symbols that people usually associate with occupation I don’t know what to tell you. The goal is relief efforts. That’s it.
Norvell on March 16, 2010 at 12:19 PM
RAAAAAAAAAAAACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!
thomashton on March 16, 2010 at 12:20 PM
Daniel Pipes writes of America’s Shiny New Palestinian Militia @ NRO.
US Tax Payers annually fund the Palestinian army with $100million, plus the State Dept., CIA and our Military participate in training the Palestinians in war preparations.
maverick muse on March 16, 2010 at 12:24 PM
Please don’t feed the trolls. It isn’t worth the bandwidth.
Nuts4koi on March 16, 2010 at 12:25 PM
lol yes having a different opinion makes me a troll. Do you even know what the term means. Alright. Live in your echo chamber.
Norvell on March 16, 2010 at 12:25 PM
Norvell on March 16, 2010 at 12:19 PM
Are these not American Troops providing this relief? Is it not the hard-earned money of Americans providing the funding? We’re not there to occupy them. This is not an act of war. This is an act of compassion. I don’t give a hoot ‘n holler what the French think. I have a French Army rifle for WWII for sale if you want it. Never fired, only dropped. We are Americans. Like Bishop said, our symbols are on every person and every peice of equipment in Haiti. They are very aware that we are there. Not flying the American flag is a disengenuous attempt from an incompetent administration that holds other countries, including our enemies, in higher esteem than they do the country that elected them. I’m tired of it.
kingsjester on March 16, 2010 at 12:27 PM
What does flying a flag have to do with the price of eggs in China? What this is about is Barry’s sycophantic Libtards being embarrassed at their own country’s power and wanting to mollify their European betters. If the French say “jump” you say “how high?” Liberals really have absolutely no love for nor pride in their own country. 2012 can’t come soon enough so we can vote Chairman 0bama0 and his unpatriotic America-hating cronies out of office.
WarEagle01 on March 16, 2010 at 12:28 PM
This is like a corporation not using its logo when it rolls out a new kick ass product. You want to improve our image in the world, Mr. President? Let the people who are grateful for life saving aid know the country behind their help.
What a maroon.
Chubbs65 on March 16, 2010 at 12:29 PM
You’re talking to the wrong President, Ed.
Sarkozy’s hissyfit doesn’t surprise me at all. I’ve always thought that Sarkozy sees Obama as a weak leader who creates a vacuum internationally that Sarkozy is determined to fill. I’ve no doubt that Sarkozy understands Obama can be intimidated anytime American exceptionalism is on display.
Texas Gal on March 16, 2010 at 12:29 PM
As a matter of fact I do.
Nuts4koi on March 16, 2010 at 12:30 PM
Force feeding socialism at home, and groveling and apoligizing abroad. Man, we are in the deep shift.
We have to rid ourselves of this guy pronto, then do some serious thinking about how we got to this point, with a view to putting in fixes to ensure that mistakes like this guy never again get anywhere near the Oval Office.
james23 on March 16, 2010 at 12:31 PM
we were in kuwait to help, too, yet nobody argued that it was an “embarrassment of weakness” that we did not fly the flag.
sesquipedalian on March 16, 2010 at 12:33 PM
The only place the left likes to show the flag is on top of coffins.
LibTired on March 16, 2010 at 12:34 PM
Just sent the following to Webb and Warner. (the bopsie twins from VA)
I also sent a message to the WH. Interestingly enough, the anti-spam password given to me to use was “surprising populism”
Nothing escapes the propogandists.
BobMbx on March 16, 2010 at 12:35 PM
So spreading the wealth around may be considered a wrong idea?
Electrongod on March 16, 2010 at 12:35 PM
I’m trying not to be a jerk but it’s hard to argue with what is mostly emotional rhetoric in the vain of a historical hollywood blockbuster speech. Again not trying to be a jerk here. As far as what you said I agree with you that to be honest this isn’t going to do much to change perception if there is one because to be honest any distrust of the united states is much deeper than just a flag and to be honest the US hasn’t given Haiti much reason to trust them. However it is useless because already stated out flag is probably on ever piece of equipment I don’t feel the sense of outrage because I understand the reasoning behind doing this even if ineffective. I find it simply unnecessary not treasonous…
Norvell on March 16, 2010 at 12:36 PM
AMEN!!! I commented before….I have no doubts he’s playing Obama on this one, and the chump fell for it. He’s completely inept at running this country, let alone running anything else. He’s utterly clueless.
capejasmine on March 16, 2010 at 12:36 PM
Unprecedented. No doubt Obama would also object to flying the American Flag on the Moon (We don’t want to look like Imperialist occupiers!). Maybe he’d like a flag with his mug on it that said, “We are the ones you’ve been waiting for”.
Buy Danish on March 16, 2010 at 12:11 PM
Buy Danish:I wouldn`t put it past him Danish!:)
canopfor on March 16, 2010 at 12:37 PM
We couldn’t fly the US flag over our bases in Saudi Arabia during the ’90′s, either. We couldn’t build DFP’s either. Some nonsense about “digging and defiling the King’s soil”.
This isn’t unprecedented and not really unexpected.
Funny how under Democrat presidents, we don’t fly our flag overseas…
catmman on March 16, 2010 at 12:38 PM
Or maybe the goal is simply to provide relief and nothing else therefore improving our image isn’t the highest priority? So I mean if that is the case your analogy doesn’t really apply here
Norvell on March 16, 2010 at 12:39 PM
Man, I can’t wait to vote this anti-American fool out of office.
fleiter on March 16, 2010 at 12:40 PM
What a jackass.
crazy_legs on March 16, 2010 at 12:40 PM
Unremarkable. When he goes into campaign mode like this, all the pool outlets get “exclusives” where the filthy lying coward says the same damned thing with somebody else asking the predictable questions.
highhopes on March 16, 2010 at 12:41 PM
I think he’s waiting for this flag to be delivered so it can be flown in Haiti (and elsewhere).
Ssharon on March 16, 2010 at 12:42 PM
One problem: he is.
spmat on March 16, 2010 at 12:44 PM
Ha! Agree!
I remember watching that staged ‘press conference’ in France during Obama’s ‘I need some foreign policy cred world tour’ and several others felt that Sarkozy was sucking up to Obama but what I saw was Sarkozy sizing up Obama and setting himself up in the catbird seat. This is the American presidency that gives power to the EU and UN and Sakorzy ain’t nobody’s fool.
Texas Gal on March 16, 2010 at 12:45 PM
It’s deepy thrilling to this guy to be able to tell our forces not to fly the flag. In a small way, it fulfills one of his life’s purposes.
rrpjr on March 16, 2010 at 12:45 PM
I am very certain that Rand & Ron Paul and their buddy IVAW/Winter soldier fellow Adam Kokesh would approve of this.
Kermit on March 16, 2010 at 12:47 PM
Ding Ding Ding!!!
Dopenstrange on March 16, 2010 at 12:47 PM
As part of a larger military operation in what is unarguably the most volatile region on the globe.
But yes, I agree with you that not flying the flag then was a mistake too even if a direct comparison to a relief effort in Haiti isn’t exactly apt.
Bishop on March 16, 2010 at 12:48 PM
He hasn’t even been there to visit and give his support has he? Hasn’t been to Chile yet either.
scalleywag on March 16, 2010 at 12:50 PM
In time, in time. They’re usually to busy creating ways to overtake the American government. Once they accomplish that, their world domination plans are a go. We’ll see Obama’s face on the flag, flying throughout the world, as a reminder what a great, benevolent leader, and savior he is. UGH!!!
capejasmine on March 16, 2010 at 12:52 PM
I love my country and love living here as much as the next guy but really the world isn’t just the US. Making individual considerations for individual situations isn’t wrong. Like I said in my previous post I find this move unnecessary but I personally don’t think it was done out of shame as more just a consideration for the political environment between haiti and the United States which hasn’t had a good history.
Norvell on March 16, 2010 at 12:53 PM
I agree. That was a mistake.
capejasmine on March 16, 2010 at 12:53 PM
American patriotism embarrasses all liberals. But simply flying the flag of our country where we are officially represented embarrasses Obama.
Jaibones on March 16, 2010 at 12:53 PM
Yet another disgrace from the Obama administration. These lefties need to be gone ASAP.
At least they still let us fly it here for now.
saiga on March 16, 2010 at 12:55 PM
A lil off topic, but I just saw this at Drudge…
Obama refuses to campaign for Dems voting NO on healthcare…
Watch almost EVERY Dem, cheer at this, and vote no. LOL I wished.
capejasmine on March 16, 2010 at 12:56 PM
What a gutless, disgraceful embarrassment our snivelling b!tch of a President is. I did not know I was capable of loathing a human being as much as I loathe this man.
Fly the flag, you effing pantywaste!!!
CantCureStupid on March 16, 2010 at 12:57 PM
Incorrect. At that time, I actually got through to the Sargeant Major of the Army at the Pentagon on the phone (I had some people who knew people :). And I let my opinion be known. It didn’t do any good.
But I complained. Along with many others. The big difference now is the internet and 24/7 “news” channels. Back then, most people never heard the story about the Flag. Today, anyone who is awake wiil probably hear something about it.
BobMbx on March 16, 2010 at 12:57 PM
As a liberal, patriotism and being proud of your country is fine. Blind patriotism without any sort of critical thinking involved as to the reasons behind it is embarrassing.
Norvell on March 16, 2010 at 12:58 PM
Are you confused again, knucklehead?
Jaibones on March 16, 2010 at 12:58 PM
For more than half a year we have known:
There is no way that a reasonable American citizen can be surprised about what indignity or depraved act Obama commits against our country. It is reasonable to expect news every day about a new outrage. He is out to destroy our country, and that includes striking down our historic and justified pride in the United States. He works on that every day.
GaltBlvnAtty on March 16, 2010 at 12:58 PM
“I believe that a man must be a good patriot before he can be, and as the only possible way of being, a good citizen of the world. Experience teaches us that the average man who protests that his international feeling swamps his national feeling, that he does not care for his country because he cares so much for mankind, in actual practice proves himself the foe of mankind; that the man who says that he does not care to be a citizen of any one country, because he is the citizen of the world, is in fact usually and exceedingly undesirable citizen of whatever corner of the world he happens at the moment to be in. In the dim future all moral needs and moral standards may change; but at present, if a man can view his own country and all others countries from the same level with tepid indifference, it is wise to distrust him, just as it is wise to distrust the man who can take the same dispassionate view of his wife and mother. However broad and deep a man’s sympathies, however intense his activities, he need have no fear that they will be cramped by love of his native land.”–Teddy Roosevelt Beck
Noel on March 16, 2010 at 12:59 PM
You’re just freaked out because a Republican President actually won a war-and with the help of the UN, no less.
But I was not aware that we were at war with, or trying to liberate, Haiti.
Del Dolemonte on March 16, 2010 at 1:10 PM
IMO: Barry would rather have a red, white, and blue crescent moon and star flying high.
Claypigeon on March 16, 2010 at 1:10 PM
Although, of course, he didn’t personally say it aloud: Obama appeared to be genuinely proud of America on his election night.
And that was pretty much it.
logis on March 16, 2010 at 1:10 PM
Imnproving our image should always be one of a presidents priorities.
MarkTheGreat on March 16, 2010 at 1:13 PM
Care to give us some links to these other “non-French” Haiti occupation conspiracy theorists? We would be interested to read what they have to say.
I think.
Del Dolemonte on March 16, 2010 at 1:13 PM
Especially when he makes that one of his campaign promises.
Del Dolemonte on March 16, 2010 at 1:14 PM
No, kid, we were in Kuwait to liberate it from a country that had invaded and occupied it illegally.
And please, leave “the illegal US invasion and occupation of Iraq” out of your reply. That’s a separate issue for a separate thread.
Del Dolemonte on March 16, 2010 at 1:17 PM
Snorvell:
How many times are you going to reiterate that the U.S. did some “berry berry bad tings” to the Haitians? Why don’t you retreat to your echo chamber, which is clearly the emptyvacum inside your pathetic America-bashing gourd.
max1 on March 16, 2010 at 1:17 PM
unfreakinbelievable….
cmsinaz on March 16, 2010 at 1:18 PM
Okay, we know who we are and they know who we are and everyone everywhere knows we’re always the big dog in any yard we enter.
But here’s the thing: we’re the only ones who are asked to who pull down our flag because we’re the only ones who will do it. Because we’re sensitive. I guess.
Truth is, there’s a lot of symbolism tied up in the colors and the only reason not to fly them is if we’re ashamed. The Navy Times article makes this point implicitly by noting that we’ve not always come to Haiti as liberators. I beg to differ, but that’s the popular history.
It is important to fly the flag on deployments. It is important to show pride in who we are. It is our pride as much as our charity that puts us out in front when other nations are in peril. Kill our pride and you will kill our charity. Believe it.
Getting relief to the Haitians is not the only priority. The future of humanitarian efforts by this country is another priority. If we accept the idea that we are not entitled to fly our flag, whether in combat or peace missions, our country will weary of sticking our necks out for people who will increasingly desire to saw through them.
No one is given respect in any greater measure than that which they aready have for themselves. If we are ashamed, then the world must hold us in contempt.
Even pirates have flags. Let the colors of heroism fly, or watch an American public become less enamored of helping others.
Cricket624 on March 16, 2010 at 1:19 PM
US flag too imperialist to fly in Haiti
http://www.blackfive.net/main/
canopfor on March 16, 2010 at 1:20 PM
Fixed.
If one considerers the flag a symbol of oppression and greed, then it’s an embarrassment.
29Victor on March 16, 2010 at 1:20 PM
PS, when we liberated Kuwait City, we let the Kuawaiti Army go in first. So technically they liberated it.
Del Dolemonte on March 16, 2010 at 1:21 PM
Mr Red Skelton speaks for me.
kingsjester on March 16, 2010 at 1:21 PM
Liberals always assume the worst of the US, so it’s natural for them to assume that everyone else does as well.
MarkTheGreat on March 16, 2010 at 1:21 PM
he actually makes me sick to my stomach…
cmsinaz on March 16, 2010 at 1:22 PM
I am surprised they are not flying the UN flag and wearing Blue Bonnets. After all, we are following the UN lead on this one.
davod on March 16, 2010 at 1:23 PM
Then why not fly the biggest flag possible and make it clear that the US is there helping out in Haiti’s hour of greatest need. This is not a time for skulking around ashamed to be seen as Americans!
highhopes on March 16, 2010 at 1:28 PM
That explains why just a few years ago, 10′s of thousands of Haitains were willing to risk death in rickety boats to try and sneak into the US. Like all liberals, Norvell assumes that everyone hates the US as much as he does.
MarkTheGreat on March 16, 2010 at 1:31 PM
Wasn’t the invasion of Kuwait to kick out Saddam’s murderers a UN enacted resolution with a UN sanctioned coalition? So why would the US hoist our flag over Kuwait City?
You know making accusation about the current American administration’s intent where foreign policy is concerned is kind of like a spouse who accuses every other future spouse of committing the same indiscretions because the previous spouse did it.
The problem with US foreign policy is that it changes with just about each WH administration.
Texas Gal on March 16, 2010 at 1:34 PM
For the first time in her life M. Obama is proud to be an american.
AnotherOpinion on March 16, 2010 at 1:37 PM
Probably some sub-literate crap from the heroin addicts and child-rape enthusiasts at Indymedia or The Nation. Basically, the ravings of a pedophile coming down off a smack high. You know, the kind of people that Grow Fins or Oakland rely upon as their go-to sources. Add Norvell to that list.
PimFortuynsGhost on March 16, 2010 at 1:37 PM
TexasFeckless Gal said:You know making accusation about the current American administration’s intent where foreign policy is concerned is kind of like a spouse who accuses every other future spouse of committing the same indiscretions because the previous spouse did it.
Feckless Gal:
Uh, have you been sippin’ the “Texas tea” again before lunch sweetie?
max1 on March 16, 2010 at 1:37 PM
Emphasis on highest priority,
in regards to this particular situation. If you think making yourself looks awesome is the first thing that should be on your mind when you’re helping someone then ok. However I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and take note you said one of the priorities and you simply misread what I said when I said highest priority.
Because it’s relevant to the situation. It’s not about hating america. This is why trying to have rational conversation with people like you is as futile as trying put a ball through a square hole. Sorry the US has done some BERRY BERRY BAD Tings as you like to say and not everyone thinks we are the best thing since slice bread. Not that you have to pander to each and every instance of that but again it should be taken on a case by case basis.
You can stick your head in the sand chant USA while making a mockery out of that fact but it doesn’t change the fact that the world isn’t like an cartoon where we are always the good guys and all those other people are bad guys.
“haiti relief occupation” google search brings up plenty of websites with wackos who think we’re trying to invade haiti. The point is that the perception exists and the last place that perception needs to be is where we are trying to help. To minimize further problems I can see where they were coming from in regards to this decision but as I stated several times before I find it unnecessary.
Norvell on March 16, 2010 at 1:37 PM
About a hundred years ago we invaded to expell a hated dictator, 30 years ago we helped arrange the ouster of the Duvaliers, who were also hated by most of the people.
Just because the US gets involved is not evidence that we are doing wrong.
MarkTheGreat on March 16, 2010 at 1:38 PM
to supplement my amazing google searching abilities Del Dolemonte here is just one of the first articles from the guardian I found on this perception of the united states occupying haiti for a “non-french” source.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/jan/20/haiti-water-us-occupation
Norvell on March 16, 2010 at 1:40 PM
i’m glad to know you did. did you tell them that “bush has prohibited the US Flag from being flown at our installations. Are you proud of this decision? Do you stand behind the man who is ashamed of America?”
i thought so.
sesquipedalian on March 16, 2010 at 1:41 PM
Yea right, letting the soldiers fly the flag would so get in the way of everything else they are trying to do.
Your assumptions that anyone besides you cares is evidence that you hate America.
And how many of these sites are Haitian and how many of them are nothing more than more of the same from your fellow USA haters?
MarkTheGreat on March 16, 2010 at 1:42 PM
Like I said, Norvell’s fellow America haters think this is an invasion, so Norvell thinks we should cower in fear.
MarkTheGreat on March 16, 2010 at 1:43 PM
Snorvell:
Be honest, you’re Canadian, right?
or at least Californian?
max1 on March 16, 2010 at 1:44 PM
Do you understand the difference between a single action and a pattern of behavior?
I thought not.
MarkTheGreat on March 16, 2010 at 1:44 PM
Al-Guarniad. That is funny. What next? New Socialist Review or Counterpunch?
PimFortuynsGhost on March 16, 2010 at 1:45 PM
Quoting The Guardian about an American Issue? Seriously? You might as well quote Dave Rywall.
kingsjester on March 16, 2010 at 1:45 PM
That was slanderous to Dave Rywall. I haven’t heard him actively supporting the institution of sharia law in Britain, as al-Guarniad has.
PimFortuynsGhost on March 16, 2010 at 1:48 PM
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