Report: CBO set to score House reconciliation fix as more expensive than thought

posted at 5:59 pm on March 16, 2010 by Allahpundit

If you’re wondering why it’s taking them so long to show this bill to the public, wonder no longer. They’re caught in a tangle of benchmarks here: Per The One’s instructions, they need the total package to cost not much more than $900 billion over the first 10 years — according to their own bogus metric, of course — and in order to use reconciliation in the Senate, they need the “fix” to produce savings of at least $1 billion. Oh, and they need to figure out a way to do that essentially by tomorrow if they want to try to vote on this thing by Saturday.

Do note: All of those requirements are politically, not substantively, motivated, including the reconciliation process necessitated by bypassing Scott Brown’s 41st vote. We’re long, long past the point here of crafting the best possible bill to reform health care. All they’re doing now is looking for something that can pass and that can be sold, kinda sorta, as “fiscally responsible.”

A story from Congressional Quarterly reports:..

“Rank-and-file Democrats did not talk about the details, but said that the CBO scores [of the House reconciliation bill] had come up short. ‘They were less than expected’ in terms of deficit reduction, said Rep. Gene Green, D-Texas, who plans to vote for the bill.”…

There are several things that Democrats are up against when it comes to the CBO score. The most important is that, based on reconciliation instructions, the “fix” bill must be shown to reduce the deficit by at least $1 billion. The challenge is, that’s after assuming that the Senate bill is law. In other words, the reconciliation bill can’t claim any of the deficit reduction from the Senate bill, but rather it must reduce the deficit relative to the Senate bill. Yet the changes that are being talked about will cost a lot of money. This includes eliminating the “Cornhusker kickback” and offering enhanced Medicaid subsidies to all states, increasing subsidies for the purchase of insurance, eliminating the so-called “donut hole” on Medicare prescription drug benefits, and whatever else they put in the bill. At the same time, delaying until 2018 the enactment of the “Cadillac tax” would be scored as a reduction in revenue, and thus add further to the deficit. They’d have to make up the gap through tax increases as well as try to siphon “savings” away from the student loan bill. (More on that here.) But evidently it seems like they’re running into trouble on this front.

Since they’re willing to delay the start of O-Care by several years to create a completely phony impression of how much it’ll cost, why not delay it by an extra year or two? Then it’ll cost even “less”! And why not scale back the “Cadillac tax” exemption to raise some extra deficit-reducing revenue? I’m sure the unions won’t mind; they’re threatening to (giggle) primary Democrats who vote no, you know.

You guys know I’m all about the optimism so I’ll leave you with this: “If President (Barack) Obama and the Democrats repeat the mistake of the health insurance reform adopted here in Massachusetts on a national level, they will threaten to wipe out the American economy within four years.” Does that hold true even if we reduce premiums by three thousand percent?

Update: If they can’t get the numbers to work by tomorrow, is that the final crack in the dam for wavering Dems?


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Whoa whoa whoa…

They CANNOT use Reconciliation if the bill doesn’t reduce the deficit.

Period. That’s in the rules for the process of Reconciliation.

Skywise on March 16, 2010 at 6:02 PM

BEST news all week. KILL IT NOW.
.
p.s. if it is 3000% less, shouldn’t they owe me money? Every month?

shooter on March 16, 2010 at 6:02 PM

The vast right-wing conspiracy!

No way O and his Dems could be wrong!

Liam on March 16, 2010 at 6:02 PM

To borrow a phrase from James Taranto: just how expensive is “thought”?

zamoose on March 16, 2010 at 6:03 PM

I wish this nightmare would end

skree on March 16, 2010 at 6:04 PM

We’re long, long past the point here of crafting the best possible bill to reform health care.

Key.

Weight of Glory on March 16, 2010 at 6:05 PM

Let me try Obow math: a 3000% decrease? That means we’ll be getting money back from government, right?

If I pay $100 a month for a premium, a 100% decrease drops that amount to zero (not meaning Obow this time)

So a 3000% decrease is $300,000, right? Logically, I pay no income taxes ever again, plus get about a quarter-mil from the Treasury on top of keeping all I earn.

I’m in! Where does I gets mys Obama money?

Liam on March 16, 2010 at 6:07 PM

Why not trying, you know, actually doing something to cut health care costs?

pedestrian on March 16, 2010 at 6:07 PM

Let me be clear:

UNEXPECTEDLY UNPRECEDENTED………

So, can they hear us NOW!?!?!?!?!

RealMc on March 16, 2010 at 6:08 PM

And who trusts any of this to be truthful?

Once the CBO director made the walk to the White House, all bets were off.

tarpon on March 16, 2010 at 6:08 PM

Update: If they can’t get the numbers to work by tomorrow, is that the final crack in the dam for wavering Dems?

From your Keyboard to God’s ears.
(No offense intended)

Chip on March 16, 2010 at 6:09 PM

Since they’re willing to delay the start of O-Care by several years to create a completely phony impression of how much it’ll cost, why not delay it by an extra year or two

Why not the full ten years? That way we can officially endorse the anti-Wimpy strategy for Obamacare! We’ll gladly pay for healthcare now, for the benefit’s on Tuesday.

Weight of Glory on March 16, 2010 at 6:09 PM

They CANNOT use Reconciliation if the bill doesn’t reduce the deficit.

Skywise on March 16, 2010 at 6:02 PM

Just a matter of juggling some numbers in the land of Oz. Why can’t they just deem the deficit as being reduced?

a capella on March 16, 2010 at 6:09 PM

As long as my premium’s aren’t OVER 9000!! I’m good.

Gatsu on March 16, 2010 at 6:11 PM

PRAY.

publiuspen on March 16, 2010 at 6:11 PM

Whoa whoa whoa…
 
They CANNOT use Reconciliation if the bill doesn’t reduce the deficit.
 
Period. That’s in the rules for the process of Reconciliation.
 
Skywise on March 16, 2010 at 6:02 PM

 
It’s sweet that you think those things still matter in D.C.

rogerb on March 16, 2010 at 6:11 PM

” If they can’t get the numbers to work by tomorrow, is that the final crack in the dam for wavering Dems?”

I just checked my Magic 8-Ball and it said “Ask again later”. I guess my 8-ball is playing politics as well.

Electrongod on March 16, 2010 at 6:11 PM

It’s over Fauxbama! Get all sh*tfaced on St. Patrick’s Day! You know your father would.

BHO Jonestown on March 16, 2010 at 6:12 PM

skree on March 16, 2010 at 6:04 PM

I agree HOWEVER the longer they chase their donkey tails the more rings are added under the circus tent. They are imploding and it’s a beautiful sight to behold. They cannot circumvent the law of the land. And Obama is scheduled for FOX tomorrow. Brett Baier will be fair and will (hopefully) ask the good questions. Obama is trying to reach the right wing. We won’t grab his rope, we know the truth. It does need to end quickly and I’m growing tired of watching the water swirl, but it’s been oh so interesting! I wouldn’t feel this way if, on Chewy’s Scale of Terror, I was higher than a 2. I feel good about the outcome (for the moment).

Yellowdog12 on March 16, 2010 at 6:13 PM

OT: Obama’s going on Fox’s Special Report tomorrow to be interviewed by Brett Baier.

We need a thread. And can Baier make Obama look ridiculous enough to kill this thing? Tough crap, I’m not looking for fairness, I want Obama on the record admitting that this is a POS piece of legislation. I really hope Baier plays hardball with him. This legislation is absolutely indefensible.

BuckeyeSam on March 16, 2010 at 6:13 PM

My boss told me if premiums drop 3000-percent he’ll start paying me in magic beans.

RMOccidental on March 16, 2010 at 6:14 PM


You guys know I’m all about the optimism so I’ll leave you with this: “If President (Barack) Obama and the Democrats repeat the mistake of the health insurance reform adopted here in Massachusetts on a national level, they will threaten to wipe out the American economy within four years.” Does that hold true even if we reduce premiums by three thousand percent?

Allah, did you just throw Mitt under the bus?

KickandSwimMom on March 16, 2010 at 6:14 PM

Doc fix in there? Increased admin costs for IRS in there?

What a frelling joke.

DrSteve on March 16, 2010 at 6:14 PM

Only 3000%? Why not eleventy gizzillion percent?

Whatever.

O will utter any lie in his effort to reshape America.

pseudonominus on March 16, 2010 at 6:14 PM

Whoa whoa whoa…
 
They CANNOT use Reconciliation if the bill doesn’t reduce the deficit.
 
Period. That’s in the rules for the process of Reconciliation.
 
Skywise on March 16, 2010 at 6:02 PM

Oh come on! It’ll reduce it by 3000%!!!

Chip on March 16, 2010 at 6:15 PM

3000% I can hardly understand that math. 100% reduction would be free. 3000% reduction would mean the government would pay your employer 29 times the cost of the insurance for insuring you. That, plus insuring all those people in those extra 7 states, is going to be expensive!

tommylotto on March 16, 2010 at 6:15 PM

MSNBC’s “Ed” is as close to having his head explode as I’ve seen.
Poor baby had to report on an NBC poll – “If your congressperson vote for Health Care Reform, would you be more likely or less likely to vote for them in the future?”

More: 20 something percent.
Less: 46 percent.
Not sure: rest.

Marcus on March 16, 2010 at 6:15 PM

Obama is trying to reach the right wing Independants.
Yellowdog12 on March 16, 2010 at 6:13 PM

FIFY.

pseudonominus on March 16, 2010 at 6:16 PM

CBO set to score House reconciliation fix as more expensive than thought

1. No!

2. In other news, Social Security is reported to be running at a deficit…or something.

Jaibones on March 16, 2010 at 6:17 PM

WOW!

Andrew Breitbart is guest hosting on the Michael Savage Show now.

There must be parameters in this nation! And WE need to write our story ourselves, participating in the Tea Party and making the necessary difference.

maverick muse on March 16, 2010 at 6:17 PM

just how expensive is “thought”?

zamoose on March 16, 2010 at 6:03 PM

In this Administration of Dunces, and this Parliament of Whores, “thought” is priceless.

JohnGalt23 on March 16, 2010 at 6:17 PM

Whoa whoa whoa…

They CANNOT use Reconciliation if the bill doesn’t reduce the deficit.

Period. That’s in the rules for the process of Reconciliation.

Skywise on March 16, 2010 at 6:02 PM

It’s sweet that you think those things still matter in D.C.

rogerb on March 16, 2010 at 6:11 PM

I found it cute also.

thomasaur on March 16, 2010 at 6:18 PM

Hmmmm…. sooo….

Allowing Insurance companies to sell across State Lines… is a bad thing…

But the government is gonna decrease Insurance premiums by 3000%! By lowering the amount of people in the Pool because of the forced coverage of previous conditions, and the low penaltys for NOT having insurace.

Do they even bother to LISTEN to what they are spewing?

Romeo13 on March 16, 2010 at 6:18 PM

can’t get the numbers to work

As if accounting tricks are going to make this any less of a disastrous, nation-destroying debacle on the order of the sacking of Rome.

God help us all.

spmat on March 16, 2010 at 6:18 PM

How can the CBO score a reconciliation bill that hasn’t been written yet? Has the reconciliation bill been written? But not released publicly? Have undecided democrat members of congress seen the written bill?

If the reconciliation bill has to be rewritten because it doesn’t score well by the CBO does that make it a new bill?
How many times can ‘the reconciliation bill’ be rewritten before it becomes a new bill? Can the house just keep rewriting and resubmitting the bill until they get something they like?

Skandia Recluse on March 16, 2010 at 6:18 PM

Ed gets mentioned on Mark Levin.

Electrongod on March 16, 2010 at 6:19 PM

SarahPalinUSA:

Contact info for Congress here: http://tinyurl.com/5nexf4 Keep contacting them!

Juno77 on March 16, 2010 at 6:19 PM

Oh come on! It’ll reduce it by 3000%!!!

Chip on March 16, 2010 at 6:15 PM

In all 57 STATES!

By producing that three letter word… J O B S!

Romeo13 on March 16, 2010 at 6:20 PM

Whoa whoa whoa…

They CANNOT use Reconciliation if the bill doesn’t reduce the deficit.

Period. That’s in the rules for the process of Reconciliation.

Skywise on March 16, 2010 at 6:02 PM

Since when has Ogabe cared about rules?

What’s next? Will a fire burn down the Reichstag Capitol, and Obama will declare that some Teabagger did it and announce ObamaCare will become the law of the land?

Norwegian on March 16, 2010 at 6:21 PM

They don’t even have the final reconciliation bill written. How is the CBO scoring anything.

Enoxo on March 16, 2010 at 6:21 PM

Report: CBO set to score House reconciliation fix as more expensive than thought

Gee. Wow. I’m thrilled. Really. Depending on the CBO … yep.

As if the CBO had even an ounce of credibililty in its projections …

neurosculptor on March 16, 2010 at 6:22 PM

Official: Mass-type care could ‘wipe out’ economy

BOSTON—The Massachusetts treasurer said Tuesday that Congress will “threaten to wipe out the American economy within four years” if it adopts a health care overhaul modeled after the Bay State’s.

I think the headline might be selling this story short a just a little.

forest on March 16, 2010 at 6:24 PM

If this bill will wipe out the economy in four years, does that means it is delaying the wipe out by two years? Semi-sarcasm there. This assumes that they don’t pass any other killer legislation like cap and tax, or fiats like the EPA’s CO2 pollution ruling being ‘enforced.’

GnuBreed on March 16, 2010 at 6:24 PM

They don’t even have the final reconciliation bill written. How is the CBO scoring anything.
Enoxo on March 16, 2010 at 6:21 PM

Forecasting via Unicorn droppings – it’s very scientific, I believe they developed the technology at East Anglia University.

Chip on March 16, 2010 at 6:26 PM

If they can’t get the numbers to work by tomorrow, is that the final crack in the dam for wavering Dems?

There is already so much manipulated in this thing to make it say what they want for the next ten years they will have no problem tweaking it a bit more. My question is “What are the number’s AFTER the ten year period? Like say 20 years from now?” Would SS or Medicare passed if they had the numbers for it that we have today? I seriously doubt it.

truetexan on March 16, 2010 at 6:26 PM

3000% I can hardly understand that math. 100% reduction would be free. 3000% reduction would mean the government would pay your employer 29 times the cost of the insurance for insuring you. That, plus insuring all those people in those extra 7 states, is going to be expensive!

tommylotto on March 16, 2010 at 6:15 PM

I don’t know if Obama realizes how ridiculous this sounds.

INC on March 16, 2010 at 6:27 PM

Reduced by 3000%? Seriously, if Palin came even close to being that far off, she’d be mocked endlessly by the drive-bys and nutroots.

I don’t ever wanna hear anyone tell me again how intelligent Obama is. Either he pulled that number out of his you-know-what which shows he has no clue what he’s talking about, or he’s being fed lines on the teleprompter which means he still has no clue what he’s talking about, plus the people pulling the strings are just as dumb.

Doughboy on March 16, 2010 at 6:28 PM

These idiots on Capitol Hill aren’t “making sausage”. They’re making compost.

kingsjester on March 16, 2010 at 6:30 PM

Only 3000%? Why not eleventy gizzillion percent?

Whatever.

O will utter any lie in his effort to reshape America.

pseudonominus on March 16, 2010 at 6:14 PM

I’ve always been partial to ‘GO-ZILLION’.

Obama is one GO-ZILLION times worse than anyone expected.

BigWyo on March 16, 2010 at 6:32 PM

If this bill will wipe out the economy in four years, does that means it is delaying the wipe out by two years? Semi-sarcasm there. This assumes that they don’t pass any other killer legislation like cap and tax, or fiats like the EPA’s CO2 pollution ruling being ‘enforced.’
GnuBreed on March 16, 2010 at 6:24 PM

The taxes start immediately, so it’ll screw the economy immediately.

And for 4 years we get to pay for Healthcare twice – isn’t that a Deal!

Chip on March 16, 2010 at 6:32 PM

I can’t wait to go shopping at Sach’s Fifth Avenue for their 3,000 percent off sale.

Knucklehead on March 16, 2010 at 6:33 PM

Reduced by 3000%? Seriously, if Palin came even close to being that far off, she’d be mocked endlessly by the drive-bys and nutroots.

I don’t ever wanna hear anyone tell me again how intelligent Obama is. Either he pulled that number out of his you-know-what which shows he has no clue what he’s talking about, or he’s being fed lines on the teleprompter which means he still has no clue what he’s talking about, plus the people pulling the strings are just as dumb.

Doughboy on March 16, 2010 at 6:28 PM

“Profit and Earnings Ratio”
“57 States”
“Corspeman”
“Austrian Language”
etc, etc, etc.

Ogabe is a mental midget.

Norwegian on March 16, 2010 at 6:33 PM

I don’t know if Obama realizes how ridiculous this sounds.

INC on March 16, 2010 at 6:27 PM

Of course he doesn’t. The Indonesian Imbecile – as I have been telling people – is unable to handle even simple arithmetic with fractions. Percentages are totally beyond him. I have had to drop my old estimate of his math SATs to less than 390. The Precedent is a truly stupid person. Not funny stupid, but stupid-stupid, to put it in Whoopi-speak.

And I though that we would never hear anything dumber than “profit and earnings ratios”.

neurosculptor on March 16, 2010 at 6:33 PM

Relish the thrill of it all and hope for the best…
Yet “Deem and Pass” for this bill would be tyrannical, and we have a right to defend ourselves.

mjbrooks3 on March 16, 2010 at 6:33 PM

“A democrap’s a liar three thousand percent.” Hussein Hears A Who!

eaglewingz08 on March 16, 2010 at 6:34 PM

With Jimmy Carter it was the sweater.
With Obama it is going to be 3000%.

ORconservative on March 16, 2010 at 6:35 PM

Since when did $900B become “reasonable?” Priorities totally off the mark. We’re doomed.

redfoxbluestate on March 16, 2010 at 6:35 PM

Obama and his sycophantic Democratic Congress are becoming a laughing stock and it’s going to be ugly in November for them !

Obama is all hat and no cattle and a da* embarrassment!

Sandybourne on March 16, 2010 at 6:37 PM

I am 3,000% certain Obama needs to hear the words “YOU LIE” early and often everyday he has left in his one term wonder of a presidency.

Branch Rickey on March 16, 2010 at 6:38 PM

Yah we lose with the 3,000 percent off thing but we make up for it with volume.

Mojave Mark on March 16, 2010 at 6:38 PM

Ogabe is a mental midget.

Norwegian on March 16, 2010 at 6:33 PM

For the love of Pete stop insulting mental midgets. They aren’t this affirmative-action-ridden stupid. :)

Branch Rickey on March 16, 2010 at 6:40 PM

You guys know I’m all about the optimism so I’ll leave you with this: “If President (Barack) Obama and the Democrats repeat the mistake of the health insurance reform adopted here in Massachusetts on a national level, they will threaten to wipe out the American economy within four years.” Does that hold true even if we reduce premiums by three thousand percent?

I checked the mail today for the check that the “big insurance companies” were s’posed to send me for $725,000. It didn’t come so I wore my *shocked face* all day.

ted c on March 16, 2010 at 6:40 PM

CBO scoring = EXCELLENT!

Good news rides a fast horse…

Khun Joe on March 16, 2010 at 6:41 PM

I wonder how Obama will handle this if ObamaCare fails to become law.

Electrongod on March 16, 2010 at 6:42 PM

Just got the most propaganda piece of trash from Ellison via e-mail.

I borrowed a line from Joe Wilson in my response back to him.

gophergirl on March 16, 2010 at 6:45 PM

I pay about $600 a month for insurance. So 3000% of that is $18K a month every month from BC/BS coming my way. I’m rich, I tells ya, RICH!!

angryed on March 16, 2010 at 6:47 PM

This CBO report is so bad that it’s been in the hands of Dems for days and still hasn’t been leaked.

You know it’s bad if all we got is “less than expected.”

uknowmorethanme on March 16, 2010 at 6:49 PM

I pay about $600 a month for insurance. So 3000% of that is $18K a month every month from BC/BS coming my way. I’m rich, I tells ya, RICH!!

angryed on March 16, 2010 at 6:47 PM

Don’t get too excited, your taxes are going up to 427% :)

neurosculptor on March 16, 2010 at 6:50 PM

they need the “fix” to produce savings of at least $1 billion.

I thought it was $2 billion?

House Education and Labor Committee Chairman George Miller , D-Calif., was asked by reporters about reports that preliminary CBO scores showed that the reconciliation bill does not save $2 billion over five years as required under budget rules

Patriot Vet on March 16, 2010 at 6:52 PM

Well I guess the numerous prayer from millions might get to the ears of God. Our Republic is under attack, the nation God has given us. Agree or not. In the past people have asked God to help them and He has. If it does not happen, well, we will deal. Those in Germany had to deal, we will here.
My prayers go out to Israel and my country.
L

letget on March 16, 2010 at 6:52 PM

rogerb on March 16, 2010 at 6:11 PM

I found it cute also.

thomasaur on March 16, 2010 at 6:18 PM

Obama: “Repeat after me, ‘YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN!…” You get the picture. Thomsaur, you’re spot on, they can do whatever they dang well please because they say so!

Chewy the Lab on March 16, 2010 at 6:53 PM

I pay about $600 a month for insurance. So 3000% of that is $18K a month every month from BC/BS coming my way. I’m rich, I tells ya, RICH!!

angryed on March 16, 2010 at 6:47 PM

Except that you will qualify for the “Cadillac tax” and will be running close to the $250,000 limit for higher taxation. My advice, retire and live off of Government premiums.

Electrongod on March 16, 2010 at 6:54 PM

I don’t know if Obama realizes how ridiculous this sounds.
INC on March 16, 2010 at 6:27 PM

He doesn’t get it. This is a guy who blamed ACME insurance for not covering his accident when he was rear-ended, which clearly meant that he either hadn’t met his deductible or didn’t have collision insurance on his car. Meep Meep.

Buy Danish on March 16, 2010 at 6:54 PM

Anyone notice when Obama said “politics are getting in the way of this thing being done” – Everyone clapped? – His zombies are are clueless as he is.

Oopsdaisy on March 16, 2010 at 6:55 PM

All they’re doing now is looking for something that can pass and that can be sold, kinda sorta, as “fiscally responsible.”

I’ll soon put my life in the hands of Herr Doctor Obama Rue
You know The One with the never ending Hope and Change shtick
He’s got a medical pad down on Pennsylvania avenue
He’ll be passin’ out little bottles of Obama Medical Potion Number Nine

I’ll tell him that I’m having trouble with my health care payments
It’s gotten even worse in these last few weeks
He’ll kiss me on the cheek and he’ll made a magic sign
He’ll say “What you need is Obama Medical Potion Number Nine”

He’ll turn around and gave me a wink
He’ll say “I’m gonna have my nurse Michelle make it up right here in the White House laboratory sink”
It’ll smell like Chicago, it’ll look like socialist ink
I’ll hold my nose, I’ll close my eyes, I’ll take a drink

I won’t know if it is day or night
I’ll start trying to find any hospital that is in sight
But when the real doctors have all gone
It’ll break my little bottle of Obama Medical Potion Number Nine
Break my little bottle of Obama Medical Potion Number Nine

“If President (Barack) Obama and the Democrats repeat the mistake of the health insurance reform adopted here in Massachusetts on a national level, they will threaten to wipe out the American economy within four years.”

Victor Obamastein is a mad man and all of America is his lab rat.

MB4 on March 16, 2010 at 6:55 PM

Obama is going to give another speech on Friday. A “pre-vote” rally for deathcare.

andy85719 on March 16, 2010 at 6:55 PM

“Profit and Earnings Ratio”
“57 States”
“Corspeman”
“Austrian Language”
etc, etc, etc.

Ogabe is a mental midget.

Norwegian on March 16, 2010 at 6:33 PM

Ya know? If you put that on a tee-shirt (you ought to e-mail it to one of the suppliers right away, print out a timed stamped copy and rake in the royalties), I’d buy a dozen!

Chewy the Lab on March 16, 2010 at 6:56 PM

I pay about $600 a month for insurance. So 3000% of that is $18K a month every month from BC/BS coming my way. I’m rich, I tells ya, RICH!!

angryed on March 16, 2010 at 6:47 PM

/Channels Forrest Gump

But they raised taxes by like, a GaZillion percent… so even though I got a million dollar wound, the Government must keep that money, cause I aint scene a penny of it yet…

Romeo13 on March 16, 2010 at 6:56 PM

Don’t get too excited, your taxes are going up to 427% :)

neurosculptor on March 16, 2010 at 6:50 PM

Just do what I did. Incorporate yourself, cook the books, become too big to fail, get TARP money, move to Panama. In that order ::evil laughter::

Gatsu on March 16, 2010 at 6:57 PM

The Waiting Is the Hardest Part [Daniel Foster]

The word around Washington is that there is no CBO score of the reconciliation package because the Democrats can’t find a way to make the bill reduce the deficit by the legally required $1 billion through 2014.

“They were less than expected” said Rep. Gene Green (D., Texas) of early, unofficial CBO scores.

In a bill that, by the Democrats’ own lights, will cost nearly $1 trillion over the next decade, a lousy billion spread out over four years doesn’t sound like much. But consider that reconciliation is designed for deficit-cutting, and nearly all of the House’s differences with the Senate bill — the donut hole, the expansion of the Cornhusker Kickback to all 50 states, bigger subsidies — are in the direction of increased spending. Moreover, the delay and watering-down of the Cadillac tax will be scored as a revenue-decreasing measure, further putting the Democrats in the hole.

It is almost as if the reconciliation process were ill-suited for something like Obamacare.

andy85719 on March 16, 2010 at 6:58 PM

“CBO scores … had come up short. ‘They were less than expected’ in terms of deficit reduction.”

Oh gee, the phony numbers aren’t working either.

GarandFan on March 16, 2010 at 6:58 PM

3000% eh?
Is it too late for me to find some really expensive insurance?

JusDreamin on March 16, 2010 at 6:58 PM

They’ll just push the benefit kickin to 2016 now.

ctmom on March 16, 2010 at 6:59 PM

Except that you will qualify for the “Cadillac tax” and will be running close to the $250,000 limit for higher taxation. My advice, retire and live off of Government premiums.

Electrongod on March 16, 2010 at 6:54 PM

That IT! Thats how Bambi gets around his promise not to raise taxes if you make less that 250K!

He gives us all 3000% tax rebates (cause they are taxable income), then raises taxes by 3000%… meaning on paper, we all make over $250K!

then he taxes what we actualy make even MORE!

Romeo13 on March 16, 2010 at 7:00 PM

Buy Danish on March 16, 2010 at 6:54 PM

I’d forgotten that. One more thing.

INC on March 16, 2010 at 7:00 PM

His zombies are are clueless as he is.

Oopsdaisy on March 16, 2010 at 6:55 PM

They did the mash
They did the zombie mash
The zombie mash
It was a graveyard smash
They did the mash
To be imposed in a flash
They did the mash
They did the zombie mash

The Zombies and ghouls were having fun
Their party had just begun
The guests included Kevorkian
Mengele and his long lost son

The scene was rockin’, all the zombies were digging the sounds
America held in chains, threaten by baying hounds
The coffin-bangers were about to arrive
With their vocal group, “The Crypt-Kicker Pelosi Five”

MB4 on March 16, 2010 at 7:03 PM

Just think, if they find the billion, they can tout it as saving “$1 billion over 5 years” and costing “less than a trillion”. Sound terrible.

andy85719 on March 16, 2010 at 7:04 PM

MS Excel
Pct change=((price final – price initial)/price initial)*100

purty easy WH Staffers…. check it. If health insurance goes from $3,000 down to a nickel it goes like this

pct change=((0.05-3,000)/0.05)*100= -99.998%

hell, I’ll even plug in a Fat Cat Cadillac insurance plan that’s worth $300,000 per year and a million dollar rider to make it a cool $1.3 mill. STill i can only get to -99.9999996%

ted c on March 16, 2010 at 7:08 PM

I saw Jason Altmire on the news tonight tap-dancing about his health care vote. A SEIU rent-a-mob showed up at his office today in support of the health care bill. How much did Pelosi and Co. pay them per hour to be there? Even if we throw Altmire out for voting yes, he’ll go back to his cush life of health-care lobbying, so he wins either way. Corruptocrats.

Philly on March 16, 2010 at 7:09 PM

Ed gets mentioned on Mark Levin.

Electrongod on March 16, 2010 at 6:19 PM

He was quoted by Rush today as well. In his opening remarks. Ed’s famous. We heart him very much!

Key West Reader on March 16, 2010 at 7:10 PM

He was quoted by Rush today as well. In his opening remarks. Ed’s famous. We heart him very much!

Key West Reader on March 16, 2010 at 7:10 PM

OT: I am fairly new to this blogging world but I am becoming amazed as to how powerful it really is on getting the message out.

Electrongod on March 16, 2010 at 7:13 PM

That’s in the rules for the process of Reconciliation.

Skywise on March 16, 2010 at 6:02 PM

Rules? What are these rules of which you speak?

BacaDog on March 16, 2010 at 7:16 PM

We are awash in money. Who cares? /

CWforFreedom on March 16, 2010 at 7:23 PM

That’s in the rules for the process of Reconciliation.

“Roolss? We don’ need no stinkin’ roolss!”

drjohn on March 16, 2010 at 7:27 PM

How can anyone score a bill Pelosi is going to gut and rewrite after it’s passed?

drjohn on March 16, 2010 at 7:28 PM

Skywise on March 16, 2010 at 6:02 PM

Oh I have faith, that Pelousy, and Slaughter will come up with some bogus new rule that will help them out. After all….we just can’t wait for those surprises in the bill, and I’m especially excited that I don’t care how the Dems pass this crap. UGH!!!

capejasmine on March 16, 2010 at 7:34 PM

Aww man, did you deflate me. And here I thought it was all about lowering health care costs and increasing quality. Did you have to do that.

Hey a question, don’t they still need 216 votes to pass the rule? If so, what is the point of the rule exactly? except to piss off even more people.

tarpon on March 16, 2010 at 7:57 PM

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