Pelosi: ObamaCare is the beginning of taking America “in a new direction”
posted at 4:21 pm on March 15, 2010 by Allahpundit
I’ve said it before but it bears repeating: Their candor about O-Care being a starting, not an ending, point for “fixing” American health care is simply astounding. Given public angst about the on cost and effect on quality of care and conservative objections to the bill as an irreversible, transformational lurch towards statism, you would think Obama and Pelosi would be scrupulous about selling the bill — even privately within the caucus lest their comments leak out — as something self-contained and modest in scope. Instead we’ve seen The One winking at House progressives about a public option down the line and now Madam Speaker hinting at god knows what to come. If you want to reach for that brass ring of single-payer eventually, you have to start the socialist carousel turning. So cue the calliope:
Pelosi said passing the bill would allow Dems to undertake a “debate” with Republicans over “what is the balanced role that government should have.”
“We have to take it to the American people, to say, this is the choice that you have,” she said. “This is the vision that they have for your health and well being, and this is the vision that we have.”…
Pelosi also sought to reassure those unhappy with the Senate bill by stressing that future legislation would follow, suggesting that after they passed this legislation Dems might try to do away with the insurance industry’s antitrust exemption, among other unnamed initiatives.
“Kick open that door, and there will be other legislation to follow,” she said. “We’ll take the country in a new direction.”
Yeah, and by “new direction” she doesn’t mean third-way Clintonian moderate liberalism. I’m not sure that Peter Beinart‘s right in thinking that O-Care means Obama has fully and unapologetically embraced hard-left liberalism — if the predictions of a red wave in the fall come true, he’ll have no choice but to tack right before 2012 — but a lot of hard-left liberals like Pelosi are going to read it that way even though passing the bill depends on the support of centrist Dems. Which leaves moderate Democrats … where?
Why exactly Obama—advised by David Axelrod, Rahm Emmanuel and Valerie Jarrett—decided to double down on health care remains unclear. But it’s a good bet that President Hillary Clinton—advised by Mark Penn—would have acted differently. And in acting the way he did, Obama has turned himself into a superjumbo Democrat. For the foreseeable future, he has forfeited any chance of bridging the red-blue divide…
Whether health care reform passes or not, Obama has embraced polarization over triangulation. He has chosen Karl Rove’s politics of base mobilization over Dick Morris’s politics of crossover appeal, with consequences not merely for how he campaigns for Democrats in 2010, but for he campaigns for himself in 2012… The DLC wing’s best hope for relevance, therefore, was that Obama himself would restrain the party’s base, that his White House would nurture a new generation of centrist candidates.
That hope is now gone. From top to bottom, Democrats have decided to bet the party’s future on the belief that Americans prefer bold liberals to cautious ones. Now it’s up to the bear.
If Blue Dogs needed any more reason to vote against this travesty beyond the polls and cost estimates, the prospect of having their wing of the party marginalized for years to come by the Pelosi wing if it passes should do the trick. Or so one would think. And yet.









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Thats what amnesty is for .
And Hugo Chavez keeps getting elected too, over and over again, just like the other Hussain, Saddam
macncheez on March 15, 2010 at 4:58 PM
YouTube is verbotten in the salt where I am employed, but without seeing it, I know exactly what it is….
I see a full moon rising…..
BobMbx on March 15, 2010 at 4:58 PM
You must have not got the memo – the Liberty Bell is kaput.
Electrongod on March 15, 2010 at 4:58 PM
Time to short America!
Aquateen Hungerforce on March 15, 2010 at 4:59 PM
Thanks for the reminder: I have ribs to marinate.
Cybergeezer on March 15, 2010 at 4:59 PM
More like 1860. It’s likely to be eerily similar too.
AW1 Tim on March 15, 2010 at 4:59 PM
The trees must be in the way of the forest.
uknowmorethanme on March 15, 2010 at 4:59 PM
How about the vision of the founders of this country you nut … which is my health and well being isn’t any of your damn business. Do your one job, protect the country and the Constitution.
Of course I’m under no illusion that you will.
darwin on March 15, 2010 at 5:00 PM
some things….are not as you may think….
ted c on March 15, 2010 at 5:00 PM
Calm down? I think you’ve forgotten what’s in THIS bill they’re about to pass… y’know, where they dictate what insurance companies will cover plus dictate what prices they can set, never mind the fact that it sets up the health police to make sure we’re all in conformance?
Nah, we’ll be begging for the public option if this passes.
Skywise on March 15, 2010 at 5:00 PM
nope, she’s a ringing again.
ted c on March 15, 2010 at 5:00 PM
Don’t you love the term “Kick the door in”? This is Pelosi’s attitude to we the people and what we want. Her view is that once they kick the door in they can then do anything they want with health care or anything else they want. Public option? No sweat. Public weight levels for the masses with enforcement from the IRS. Disallowing any health threatening sport or activity that has a higher chance of requiring medical treatment, ie, sky diving, car/vehicle racing, ice skating,motorcycles anywhere, hunting, scuba diving, gay bars, skateboarding and of the many sports that we the people enjoy. Folks this is no exaggeration because we already know about cap and trade and what they propose with that legislation. These nazis are after our way of life. Fight back!
inspectorudy on March 15, 2010 at 5:02 PM
Once the bennies kick in, he’ll be safe. The terrible impact on our health care quality won’t really be apparent till he’s long out of office. He’ll forever be a hero to the only people he cares about as we drown in debt.
Game-set-match.
a capella on March 15, 2010 at 5:02 PM
Ah! He’ll ‘tack right’!
So, instead of a Leftist Communist sort of socialist he will merely try to be a Rightist National Socialist sort of socialist!
Ser gut!
He will have gotten those pesky internationalists dreams out of his head, ja?
Soon we will have identity cards for everyone!
Papers, please.
Somehow I am not enthused at this prospect.
ajacksonian on March 15, 2010 at 5:02 PM
Obama’s Presidency is merely a stepping stone for his real ambition. Leader of the United Nations.
One term Presidency? Sure.
World Domination? You betcha.
portlandon on March 15, 2010 at 5:03 PM
Yep. Well put.
neurosculptor on March 15, 2010 at 5:03 PM
StateCare kills Liberty.
Where is the proof that this augmentation of HR3200 does not still demand that everyone get implanted with a chip, or go to jail for noncompliance?
maverick muse on March 15, 2010 at 5:03 PM
A lot of you are a bunch of whiners. If this passes it is not the end but jusuhe beginning. This is a clear violation of the 10th Amendment so work at the state level on nullification. If enough states nullify this turd it WILL collapse so get busy and get local. Federalism is Freedom!
DerKrieger on March 15, 2010 at 5:04 PM
We’re soooo screwed.
changer1701 on March 15, 2010 at 5:04 PM
I concur.
visions on March 15, 2010 at 5:05 PM
“Conservatives” in Europe preserved authoritarianism, transposed from monarchy to statist party.
“Conservatives” in America preserve our Constitutional Government with the Constitution the supreme law of the land. Our founders had the good sense to reject authoritarians, whether monarchs or socialist “democratic” revolutionaries. It’s Europe’s vanity that prevented THEM from getting their own set of balanced constitutional republics, and their jealousy that they STILL resent our Liberty.
Conservatives in America preserve our Classically balanced Constitutional Republic that provides Liberty to every person held equal under the law.
But Conservatives in Europe are still authoritarians that pirated monarchy powers as their own, preserving the class distinctions that benefit those feigning aristocratic “rights”.
Neoconservatives, the ideological descendants of Lenin’s socialism, preserved their own version of authoritarianism and moved through the already socialized 20th century American Democratic Party into the Republican (progressive) Party usurped as their own ‘compassionate big tent with a thousand points of light’ that are igniting your Constitutional states’ rights and Bill of Rights in flames while dismissing your unalienable rights as if they are only “inalienable”.
Damn socialists in their varied progressive expressions dismissing the Constitutional limits on federal powers, as if their revisionism is the last word.
Damn StateCare.
Impeach Obama for his aggressive unconstitutional agenda and tactics.
Get Pelosi, Inc. out of power, out of chairmanships of committees.
Fight for Constitutional Conservative candidates in their coming campaigns.
Refrain from stroking your progressive neoconservative (R)-corrupt incumbent. You are the prey of socialists/authoritarians, no matter the variety or party label.
maverick muse on March 15, 2010 at 5:06 PM
that small 6 Mb chip that can send and receive on 6 channels and is good for 6 years…..
Don’t pay the ferryman.
ted c on March 15, 2010 at 5:06 PM
We capitalize the g in my world.
TXMomof3 on March 15, 2010 at 5:07 PM
Allah has Bill O’Reilly Syndrome. Primary symptoms are assessing Obama’s actions as though he was just another politician–like, say, Bill Clinton. Patient is either unable or unwilling to see the truth. Obama’s a leftist true believer, and he’ll gladly take being voted out if he can achieve one of the American Left’s Holy Grails.
Obama may not want to destroy America, but I’m certain he wants to cut us down to size.
tsj017 on March 15, 2010 at 5:07 PM
The Precedent has had that attitude since the first day (I had a feeling that he always thought the eligibility issue would catch up to him) which is why he has launched such an all-out assault, trying to squeeze every possible thing in as quickly as possible, without ever letting up. He’s going full force, right to the end.
But, we have allah constantly wondering, “Why is The Precedent doublng down on ____? I don’t get it.” [paraphrased, of course] And still, The Precedent keeps doing it.
neurosculptor on March 15, 2010 at 5:07 PM
I sure hope so.
Electrongod on March 15, 2010 at 5:11 PM
The new direction is not left or right
Its DOWN
macncheez on March 15, 2010 at 5:11 PM
Hmm – Unexpected catastrophe, delayed 2010 elections, “temporary” martial law?
This notion would, of course, be preposterous if it were not for the incontestable fact that the Democratic left is going for it. They (and their media allies) have completely unmasked and spent an enormous amount of irrecoverable political capital. They have no Plan B and there’s no going back.
Venusian Visitor on March 15, 2010 at 5:11 PM
That will, more likely, lead to sec3ssion, which is just one of the reasons this legislation will scorch the Earth. We already saw the SCOTUS side with the federal government in forcing states to accept Porkulus funds, even if those funds carry with them unfunded future mandates. There is no point of agreement on many issues between the federal judiciary and those of many states. This health scare passing would be the jumbo jet that broke the camel’s back.
neurosculptor on March 15, 2010 at 5:12 PM
Pass this bill, using unconstitutional methods, filled with unconstitutional mandates, and I call it INTOLERABLE.
Think about that. Is there a better word?
OneEyedJack on March 15, 2010 at 5:12 PM
Don’t get too excited … even if Pelosi “white knuckles” the bill through Congress – rest assured, this tank is out of gas.
They WILL NOT pass anything else. From now, until the elections – the Democrats will be bogged down in defending their bill – and they’ll lose that debate.
They will not have time for anything else.
There will be a new speaker next year.
HondaV65 on March 15, 2010 at 5:12 PM
Yes Nancy youre right! and it will be a pleasure to watch as you climb the gallows steps.
Viper1 on March 15, 2010 at 5:13 PM
Virginia already has. The legislation to ban mandates has passed both Chambers of VA’s legislature, including the Democrat controlled Senate.
Not only that, Viriginia has a bill on the docket that allows out-of-state insurance companies to sell policies in VA as long as they sell that same policy in their home state as well.
uknowmorethanme on March 15, 2010 at 5:14 PM
“Consider a boot stepping on your face forever” George Orwell
You’re absolutely correct it doesn’t matter what is stamped on the bottom of the boot, it is still a boot stepping on your face.
chemman on March 15, 2010 at 5:14 PM
Yeah. Look no further than Venezuela or Detroit as to what that new direction looks like.
What an airhead.
jjrakman on March 15, 2010 at 5:16 PM
Tin Foil Hat On. We don’t know what is in the bill. For all anyone knows they can be adding all their wet dreams in (Cr&P and Tax, Amnesty, Marshall Law etc.) and won’t have to worry about passing anything until the elections.
chemman on March 15, 2010 at 5:17 PM
Hows about kicking down the door and then kicking them sorry bastards out……….
bluegrass on March 15, 2010 at 5:18 PM
Snarky sarcasm is not a substitute for a lucid, well-phrased counter-argument. Rather than try to nuance and parse obama to death, as if the machinations of his brilliant mind were some ingenious rube goldberg, just follow Occam’s theorem. Sometimes a blogger needs to quit with the analytical, and just accept that a cigar can be a cigar.
keep the change on March 15, 2010 at 5:20 PM
A near-perfect analogy. Imagine Government officials kicking in the door to your house… now you understand the size and scope they hope for this bill to achieve. I guess for some, the idea of kicking in doors and making changes without the approval of those living there is a good thing.
To the rest of the nation, it’s breaking and entering, and in many areas gives you a good chance of getting shot for trying it.
This analogy just keeps paying off doesn’t it?
gekkobear on March 15, 2010 at 5:21 PM
This is awesome, but it don’t get all excited. A congress this power-hungry and arrogant would not sit back and let states opt out of their grand plan. It would be ironic, wouldn’t it, if Barack Obama ends up presiding over America’s second civil war?
Puddleglum on March 15, 2010 at 5:25 PM
Dear Nancy,
Go f*ck yourself.
Sincerely,
A Majority of the American People
diditagain on March 15, 2010 at 5:26 PM
Would you believe he’s a religious zealot willing to sacrifice himself for the greater good?
Betcha would…
Skywise on March 15, 2010 at 5:26 PM
Somebody needs to do an editorial cartoon of the lone chinese guy in Tienanmen Square standing up to the tanks with Pelosi and Obama driving them.
Skywise on March 15, 2010 at 5:30 PM
Oh come ON. The only place we’re going is bankrupt. The regressives will be lucky if Social Security and Medicare survive the economic apocalypse Washington has cooked up.
Contrary to Pelosi’s fantasy world where basic math has no place, it’s actually the beginning of the end for the U.S.S.A.’s glorious Welfare-Warfare State:
Rae on March 15, 2010 at 5:31 PM
Did you see the headline of this thread?
I think most are commenting about the ” is the beginning” bit.
reaganaut on March 15, 2010 at 5:31 PM
“All you have to do is kick in the door, and the whole rotten structure will collapse.”
- Adolph Hitler, discussing his plans to invade the Soviet Union
“Kick open that door, and there will be other legislation to follow,” she said. “We’ll take the country in a new direction.”
- Nancy Pelosi
Godwin’s Rule be damned — these donks are not only acting like a bunch of national socialists, they’re talking like them now, too.
Spurius Ligustinus on March 15, 2010 at 5:37 PM
I for one, am sick and tired of hearing about this “nude erection” of Stretch Pelosi.
UnnamedSource on March 15, 2010 at 5:41 PM
So why does she think if she does this, she won’t be punished in November?
What makes her think that anything she does can’t be undone?
Nan, hows that megalomania working out for you?
Dr Evil on March 15, 2010 at 5:42 PM
Yes, Pelosi – you dingbat - you’ve been
stickingtaking it to the American people for more than a year with this healthcare crap, but we neither like nor want your vision.Maybe Madam Speaker needs a hearing aid.
redfoxbluestate on March 15, 2010 at 5:48 PM
San Fransisco
Black and latino voters + amnesty
Can’t you see it on her face ? ;-)
Dr Evil on March 15, 2010 at 5:42 PM
macncheez on March 15, 2010 at 5:52 PM
A New Direction…
… in life expectancy trends.
JohnGalt23 on March 15, 2010 at 5:52 PM
I am convinced that “progressive” means Communist in Obamaspeak.
We are not Lemmings.
Army Brat on March 15, 2010 at 5:58 PM
This unconstitutional bill is being rammed by Pelosi and Reid, 2 of the least popular politicians nationally in US History. And they’re being aided by Slaughter whose previous claim to fame was an endearing and supremely uplifting fairy tale about the need to borrow dentures from the dead.
What’s wrong with this picture?
And Oliar is planning on only one term, one REALLY long term.
ontherocks on March 15, 2010 at 6:01 PM
I don’t share the view of the person to whom you’re responding, but your response is mistaken.
Obama may care about getting re-elected – though likely less than you suppose, per his own comments, and because he is sincerely and wholly committed to pushing Progressivism on the country – but he’s also willfully delusional enough to believe that he can do anything and get away with it.
Just as one example, as if you yourself haven’t presented a hundred the past year, he’s cranking up talks over ‘climate change’ legislation already.
JDPerren on March 15, 2010 at 6:04 PM
Nancy likes to think only “happy thoughts”. November is going to put an end to Nancy and her ‘happy thoughts’.
GarandFan on March 15, 2010 at 6:05 PM
If they actually manage to push Obamacare through using the sort of procedural bullsh*t they’re talking about, then who knows what else they’ll try to do using heaven knows what ‘procedures’. If this abomination passes, not only will America and its relationship to government be changed forever, so will the way America’s government works. And neither of them for the better, needless to say.
ProfessorMiao on March 15, 2010 at 6:05 PM
And what if America does not want your prison cell?
tarpon on March 15, 2010 at 6:08 PM
Puny socialists —
Hulk SMASH!
*brought to you by Hulk as Tea Party superhero. Go green*
shades_of_gasden on March 15, 2010 at 6:08 PM
Now Frau Pelosi is hot on health care
She’s made it her personal kick-off affair
National Socialist the country will be
As she goose-stepped, said she
‘Cause you see, anything that brings more power to me, you must all just grin and bare
Cheshire Cat on March 15, 2010 at 6:10 PM
There really isn’t a word in the English language that accurately describes Nancy Pelosi. A few choice terms come to mind, but honestly, the one I like best is a German word (appropriate, no?):
“der Foehn” (or Fohn with an umlaut, which I’ve never figured out on a keyboard)
- literally, a warm, dry wind that blows from the mountains, especially the Austria Alps;
- colloquially, an “ill wind,” “evil wind,” “murder wind,” or “wind of ill intent.”
Yup, I would say Nancy Pelosi is an evil wind.
Animator Girl on March 15, 2010 at 6:13 PM
We are now watching a live DC production of “The Audacity of Dopes”.
ontherocks on March 15, 2010 at 6:13 PM
Pelsoi speak is designed to make lies sound truthful and crime respectable and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.
Tav on March 15, 2010 at 6:16 PM
AP,
I understand that you attempting to be the voice of reason when a lot of us are genuinely frightened of what the future holds. But don’t you think that applying the traditional wisdom is a bit of a stretch with this administration? I have never seen the government behave in the way it has in the last year so I wonder if poopooing the concerns of HotAir readers is all that productive.
Perhaps instead of responding with snark and condescension to the genuine concerns of raised by commenters you could articulate your counter points. The terminator comments you made seemed rude and certainly didn’t advance the discussion.
I apologize if it seems like I am out of line but I am genuinely interested in reading your reasoned responses to people like neurosculptor. Thanks.
Mormon Doc on March 15, 2010 at 6:17 PM
The Precedent is just pushing the system to failure on every imaginable front (as he really doesn’t think he’ll get this through, or find much enthusiasm for this among the dems). People might disagree with me over The Precedent’s deepest motivations, but no one has ever made a mistake by assuming that The Precedent will do whatever move is seen to harm the US the most. Even in the one area where he eventually succumbed and made a decision in the correct direction (troop surge in Afghanistan), those of us who understood his motivating philosophy predicted the dithering from the start, as the dithering itself was the tactic, not the troop levels.
This is going to be full-court press by The Precedent up until the very end. As to why people think he is doing it, that differs, but once one takes into account that The Precedent isn’t a bright guy (he just talked about “reducing health insurance premiums by 3000%”!!) then his only possible motivations become very clear. It’s either Cloward-Piven or revenge. I side with revenge, because I understand how The Precedent holds Western leftists in contempt, along with the rest of us – as Europe is finally starting to realize.
neurosculptor on March 15, 2010 at 6:18 PM
To Obama and Pelosi power is not a means, it is an end. They do not want to create a dictatorship in order “to take America in a new direction” but rather they want “to take America in a new direction” in order to establish a dictatorship.
Tav on March 15, 2010 at 6:22 PM
It is clearly not his top priority right now.
MB4 on March 15, 2010 at 6:28 PM
SlightlyOT/sorry, I would be very interested to know Oliar’s true (oxymoron, I know) thoughts (again) concerning his sponsor Soros.
I’d bet that would explain much about his direction, as his approval and effectiveness spiral downward.
ontherocks on March 15, 2010 at 6:32 PM
I see his origin point as being more nineteen-thirties-ish.
MB4 on March 15, 2010 at 6:34 PM
No, DUH, B!TCH!!!!
ladyingray on March 15, 2010 at 6:37 PM
The exact Precedential quote, from a health scare rally today in Ohio, is:
It’s difficult to exagerrate the stupidity of a person who would say something such as this – most 8th graders would know better. But, this is right in line with his “profit and earnings ratios” brilliance.
neurosculptor on March 15, 2010 at 6:38 PM
Go ahead and kick that door open – it’ll get slammed right back in your face, Toots!
Logic on March 15, 2010 at 6:38 PM
neurosculptor on March 15, 2010 at 6:18 PM
I have followed your posts and those of highhopes with interest along with a few others and I can’t help but find myself in agreement with much of what is said. What I don’t understand is what drives Obama to hate the country. I agree with you that he is dishonest and dangerous but I wish I knew why he has such a vendetta against the country that has given him so much.
He is a man of average talent and apparently below average talent in a number of areas. Do you think that he resents having been elevated to such a high place despite his lack of actual ability. I have wondered if he feels as though he is being used and that fuels his hatred. Since he can’t attack those who have so cynically elevated him to make themselves feel better (liberals, et al.) he lashes out at any available target.
In many ways he seems like a child of over indulgent parents. Parents that don’t spank and won’t raise their voice. Because he has no boundaries he acts out. He is constantly trying to get the discipline he so desperately needs. I wish Chief Justice Roberts would put Obama in Time Out.
Mormon Doc on March 15, 2010 at 6:41 PM
He doesn’t necessarily hate the country … he hates the ideology that has made the US, and what it stands for.
He is simply a Progressive … a Marxist.
darwin on March 15, 2010 at 6:47 PM
I believe that his personality was mostly formed while in Indonesia. He carries with him a third world sense of grievance against the US and the West and has particular black issues mixed in with that. Since way back in the campaign, the Indonesian Imbecile always sounded very much to me like Argentinians (and others) I had met who had been imbued with an anti-capitalist, anti-US attitude that stretched beyond all reason. There is a hate of America and the West that percolates around the third world that is quite astounding. It’s mostly jealousy and envy, but there is a deep-seated cultural antipathy that drives it, and it always appeared to me that The Precedent absorbed this anti-Western attitude – both from his time in Indonesian where he said he “was a little Jakarta street kid” and the America-hating commies he was surrounded by his whole life.
This was in addition to his obvious lack of any actual American sensibilities and his penchant for making truly “un-American” mistakes that no one raised in this culture would ever make (like the “57 states” idiocy). Many people let these little indications go by during the campaign, but to me they showed how un-American the imbecile is and how detached he is from our nation.
I realized that his main efforts were organized towards revenge when he answered a question about capital gains in one of the primary debates. The hypothetical was proposed that a capital gains tax hike would result in reduced receipts to the government and the Indonesian Imbecile was asked if he would still be in favor of the tax hike, to which he said that he still wanted it, because “it’s a matter of fairness”. To me, that showed that he was far more interested in exacting revenge and bringing pain to certain people than to funding anything or redistributing any money. The Precedent would rather burn people’s money … as “a matter of fairness”.
That’s what did it for me.
No. I think he thinks he deserves it. There is an obnoxious, and ridiculous, sense of superiority among many third worlders that is just like this.
And thanks, MormonDoc … and I’m with you on highhopes.
neurosculptor on March 15, 2010 at 7:00 PM
What kind of crazy is this witch going to exhibit for us after socialized healthcare fails? There is a reality crash of epic proportions coming for the wicked witch of the west…as a matter of fact, Allah, if you’re listening tonight — I think I have your O’BaahmaCareFails! announcement photo.
Jaibones on March 15, 2010 at 7:01 PM
neurosculptor March 15, 2010 at 6:38 PM
We’re supposed to buy a 3000% savings and a raise, but we can’t see all of it as it is written in the bill, (that doesn’t really yet exist).
I know it’s impossible to insult his intelligence, but how about ours?
The MSM is an effin’ disgrace for being complicit in the whole cover-up of this Oliar fraudocracy.
ontherocks on March 15, 2010 at 7:02 PM
Yeah, the toilet.
csdeven on March 15, 2010 at 7:06 PM
In the postmodern mindset, European capitalism and colonialism are the root cause of all the world’s evils and problems. The poverty and corruption that characterize countries in Africa, much of South and Central America, virtually of the Middle East, and much of southern Asia are all the product of Europe’s colonial adventures, fueled by capitalism and greed. England, France, Spain, the Netherlands, and to a lesser extent Portugal, Italy and Germany became fat and rich off slavery, the sweat and labor of exploited native populations, and by robbing far away lands of their natural wealth and taking those lands for their own. The native populations got colonial subjugation, racism, and poverty, and were so distorted by the colonial experience that they are now ‘broken’ societies.
European countries and the US created the current mess that is the Middle East by redrawing the map and carving up the former dominions of the Ottoman Empire at the close of World War I into a series of states whose boundaries accorded more with Euro-American interests than Middle Eastern ones, and by appointing autocratic kings who often had no real connection to the local populations and whose only interest in ruling was in the extraordinary wealth it would mean for themselves and their immediate families.
“White” capitalist America and Europe are the root of all evil. Capitalism in bad. Capitalism is a European product that has been developed to extraordinary levels by America. Its negative effects (the impoverishment and exploitation of the many) far outweigh its positive aspects (its singular ability to create wealth and to innovate).
That Obama believes this is reflected in the pattern of his dealings with heads of state, among other things.
ProfessorMiao on March 15, 2010 at 7:06 PM
Excellent synopsis. Thank you, ProfessorMiao.
neurosculptor on March 15, 2010 at 7:09 PM
De nada. Your piece on his Indonesian upbringing was very informative. I had exactly the same reaction to his response on the capital gains question as you did. He said it very plainly – he’s main interest and major objective is ‘social justice’.
ProfessorMiao on March 15, 2010 at 7:15 PM
Is ‘Augered 10 feet into the ground’ a direction??
BigWyo on March 15, 2010 at 7:20 PM
She may not lose her seat in the House but there is a better than good chance she will lose the Speaker position for shoving this crap sandwich down everybody’s congress person’s throat.
Once she is out of the Speakers position, she is wide open to investigations from a Republican leaning House. Then the fun starts. She thinks there is no down side to what she is trying to perpetrate on the county but she’s wrong.
I wouldn’t be surprised if “people” were not putting together dossiers for when the time is opportune.
Dr Evil on March 15, 2010 at 7:34 PM
Imbeciles, in the clinical sense, and juveniles fear things they cannot onderstand..fear leads to hate.
BobMbx on March 15, 2010 at 7:42 PM
You really think America can sustain a welfare state of that size for 50 years? We are already bankrupt. It’s not going to be European socialism business as usual. Imagine France or Germany doing a US style military build up with their current deficits. We are falling apart economically as it is, their socialist fantasy will throw us off the cliff sooner taking most of the world with it. What happens after that is what we should consider.
Ann NY on March 15, 2010 at 7:43 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised if people like Mccain, Ms Lindsey and the 2 Maine hags try to stop those investigations , in the name of bi-partisanship ofcourse.
macncheez on March 15, 2010 at 7:54 PM
Mormon Doc on March 15, 2010 at 6:41 PM
My take is: the guy is just plain evil at heart. I used to think he had reasons… but now I think he is just evil.
No attempt to understand bears any fruit. It is all a wasteland of illogic. He hates because he hates.
petunia on March 15, 2010 at 9:11 PM
What amazes me about the modern Left, Obama included, is that they have forgotten the criticisms of them by the Old Left. For all the wrongness, weirdness and general utopian conception of socialists via Marx, they did have a steel-trap mentality in their belief system and utilized that against the Social Democrats and Progressives. That I remember well as I grew up with Old Line Socialists (one of my less lucid pieces goes over the critique) and what it comes down to is that by trying to get government to ‘oversee’ the demise of Capitalism you end up creating a far worse system of State Capitalism, not Socialism, Communism or even Fascism, and the Old Line Socialists use the argument against both Soviet Communism and Fascism in the inter-war years.
When the State encroaches on a Capitalist system and starts to direct it towards the ends of the State via regulation, then a retrograde system is created. Capitalism is, after all, a system of progress – even as it creates wage slaves that is far, far, far better than being actual slaves and gives opportunity for education and enlightenment. For all the blather I hear from the modern Left, they have forgotten that old criticism… that in trying to ‘reform’ Capitalism you make it much worse for all involved.
I don’t agree with the utopian Marxist world-view, nor much for the system they wish to get to… given that, they were extremely solid in their criticism of the SPD/Progressivist Left as it arose and in some very weird ways they predicted the horrors of a State run Capitalist system being regressive as it has no need to advance private interest which makes society better. By the State taking care of private interest it actually decays society, halts learning and uses the power of the State to enforce that system which is seen as a return to actual slavery, not advancing beyond wage slavery. Those were the good socialists, the ones who stayed at their desks, volunteered for fighting in the World Wars and put their lives on the line to ensure that Private Capitalism would succeed so that it would, in some far off time beyond next week, create the conditions for the socialist utopia.
I admire those sorts of socialists.
The Progressivists I have come to detest with a greater loathing than their Old Line Socialist critics. And that is a very hard thing to do.
ajacksonian on March 15, 2010 at 9:20 PM
We’re in trouble. Pelosi is having visions.
Let’s give her a dose of reality and a copy of the Constitution.
onlineanalyst on March 15, 2010 at 9:32 PM
It’s brilliant thinking like the above that has made you a giant in the Conservative world. Why how do you get anything done with all your TV interviews, radio interviews, and strategy sessions with the GOP?
I see that you can’t take someone pointing out your clueless and faulty logic so you choose the alinsky tatic-ridicule.
You are a DELTA male and a mental lightweight.
Hard Right on March 15, 2010 at 9:48 PM
From the beginning of this health-care legislation, Pelosi has perverted the word choice. She kept yammering that the (behind closed-doors) Dem-crafted legislation would promote “choice and competition.”
The federally mandated coverage that ObaMaoScare will impose will allow for NO choices. It will kill competition.
I prefer the vision that our Founding Fathers had. We have natural rights to liberty, and we are a people free to pursue our happiness as we, not the State, feel fit.
onlineanalyst on March 15, 2010 at 9:59 PM
We have to get her attention first. Let’s hit her over the head with a 2 by 4. It will be fun anyway.
Jeckle on March 16, 2010 at 1:36 AM
Now who else is known for kicking in doors?
MarkTheGreat on March 16, 2010 at 7:37 AM
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