Palin: Who will get left behind in ObamaCare?

posted at 7:30 am on March 15, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Sarah Palin maintained her attack on the ObamaCare issue in a Facebook posting yesterday afternoon, returning to a familiar theme.  When government starts making the rationing decisions instead of consumers in a marketplace, who gets left without care — and why?  Bart Stupak’s allegation about Henry Waxman and the Democratic leadership position on abortion underscores the issue, Palin insists:

Republicans in Congress are holding the line, and some Democrats are standing with them. Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI) said he won’t vote for the Senate bill if federal funding of abortion is included. Last Friday, he told National Review Online that some Democrats have told him that if abortions aren’t covered in Obamacare then “more children will be born, and therefore it will cost us millions more…Money is their hang-up. Is this how we now value life in America?” As I wrote in my first post on this topic, human rights and human dignity must be at the center of any health care discussion. Government health care will not reduce the cost of medical care; it will simply refuse to pay it. And who will get left behind when they have to ration care to save money?

Please ask yourself: who will be left behind? And who will decide – what kind of panel will decide – who receives the health care that government will obviously have to ration?

There’s a great deal of pressure being put on Stupak’s pro-life Democrats. They’re already dwindling in number. Their party is threatening them, and so are powerful SEIU labor union bosses. The Democrats respecting the sanctity of life have every incentive to buckle under the pressure, so they need to know that we’ll support them if they do the right thing and vote no on Obamacare.

No, Palin doesn’t use the phrase “death panels,” but Stupak’s accusation makes it clear that some in government have already decided to trade life for cost considerations. How else should one read this?

What are Democratic leaders saying? “If you pass the Stupak amendment, more children will be born, and therefore it will cost us millions more. That’s one of the arguments I’ve been hearing,” Stupak says. “Money is their hang-up. Is this how we now value life in America? If money is the issue — come on, we can find room in the budget. This is life we’re talking about.”

It’s not that far from funding abortions for cost savings to refusing expensive treatments to the elderly for the same reason.  That’s exactly what “comparative effectiveness” decisions do.  They calculate where to put finite treatment resources so they will have the most impact.  Everyone else gets to take a few painkillers and wait for the inevitable.

In any system, the people who control the resources make those decisions.  In a completely free market, it’s the consumer himself.  In a third-party payer system, it’s usually the insurance company chosen by the consumer.  In a government-run system, it’s a bureaucracy that not only doesn’t answer to anyone, it doesn’t have any competition to force it to pay attention to its consumers/constituents.  We need to move those decisions closer to the consumer rather than farther away from him.   ObamaCare does just the opposite, and that should worry consumers of the American health-care system.

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Of all the arguments against Obamacare (and there are many), I’ll never quite understand the rationing/death panel part. As it stands, the market already rations medical care. The mechanism is called: “You can’t afford this, make way for someone who can”. Or what about areas like prostate cancer screening? We screen 75 year olds for crying out loud! If a doctor finds a tumor on your prostate at 75, you’re about 99% likely to with prostate cancer rather than of prostate cancer. Like it or not there are practices in this country we need to review, unless we’re all perfectly ok with spending ever increasing portions of our GDP on healthcare.

Is a government run plan the only way to do this? Certainly not. But fearmongering over the cost cutting that has to occur…I’m not understanding the point, outside of the purely political one.

ernesto on March 15, 2010 at 7:47 AM

So any limits at all on medical care under the current system is exactly the same as rationing, and justifies any rationing the federal government does when it takes over health care?

Under our current system, about the only way treatment gets refused is if the patient and doctor consider it unnecessary. Under the proposed regime, the government decides based on its budget priorities. Life and death decisions are made by bureaucrats, with lots of special influence from politicians.

If you don’t think healthcare decisions should be political decisions, then you should reject Obamacare.

And if you can’t understand that, I don’t know if anyone can help you.

tom on March 15, 2010 at 12:04 PM

If the trolls want to know why we are Palinistas this is why… Palin is fighting this everyday in every way she can. She knows the Hatefilled Left wants to eviscerate her they despise her so much… but she know that health care will only be given to those between the ages of 15 and 40… I’m already too old at 47 to get anything but the blue pill if this obamanation passes… God forbid my autistic daughter who is 15 or Sarah’s DS son get I’ll… People really need to open their eyes wide as to the path the Hatefilled Left wants us on… Only their perception of worthy will get care…

If they pass this, what are we going to do?

CCRWM on March 15, 2010 at 12:04 PM

ms on March 15, 2010 at 9:11 AM

Which will eventually result in some illegal extermination also.

chemman on March 15, 2010 at 12:07 PM

CCRWM on March 15, 2010 at 12:04 PM

We make the cost so high to be one of the decision makers that no one wants the job.

chemman on March 15, 2010 at 12:09 PM

Chenman… We need a plan… we’ve got the leader

CCRWM on March 15, 2010 at 12:12 PM

From now on every time I utter his name it will have this modifier, Barry Obama, baby killer. The Baby Killer will be personally responsible for more deaths than Hitler, Stalin and Mao if this passes.

Daveyardbird on March 15, 2010 at 12:14 PM

highhopes: Yup,if they can sell their souls,they would!

canopfor on March 15, 2010 at 8:04 AM

This would actually make a great SNL skit. Obama and his people are in a meeting trying to figure out a way to get Obamacare, and hitting a brick wall. Then the devil swoops in and says, “Have I got a deal for you!!”

I’m not sure if I’d laugh or cry, though.

tom on March 15, 2010 at 12:23 PM

CCRWM on March 15, 2010 at 12:04 PM

Amen.

bw222 on March 15, 2010 at 12:40 PM

I love this woman, and this country owes her a great debt. This nightmare legislation would have passed a year ago, if it weren’t for her Facebook posting!

chunderroad on March 15, 2010 at 1:22 PM

I thank God for people like Sarah and Glenn. They are the only voices of reason now. Krauthammer is not a scientist nor has he been trained properly by Harvard (proof – global warming so called scientists do not need raw data for any proof). He is also a sexist snob *** – Sarah should leave the room. I guess Harvard does not train anyone – as Bambi does not know anything about the field he lectured in. I will take midwest people any day over the east or west coast uneducated snobs.

MoGal on March 15, 2010 at 1:23 PM

Barry Obama, baby killer. The Baby Killer will be personally responsible for more deaths than Hitler, Stalin and Mao if this passes.

Daveyardbird on March 15, 2010 at 12:14 PM
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That is his goal.

Barry Obama, baby killer, is a EUGENICS loving PROGRESSIVE.

PROGRESSIVES believe in social justice.

As EUGENICS loving PROGRESSIVE

Obamacare = LEGAL EXTERMINATION

ms on March 15, 2010 at 1:25 PM

Of all the arguments against Obamacare (and there are many), I’ll never quite understand the rationing/death panel part. As it stands, the market already rations medical care. The mechanism is called: “You can’t afford this, make way for someone who can”. Or what about areas like prostate cancer screening? We screen 75 year olds for crying out loud! If a doctor finds a tumor on your prostate at 75, you’re about 99% likely to with prostate cancer rather than of prostate cancer. Like it or not there are practices in this country we need to review, unless we’re all perfectly ok with spending ever increasing portions of our GDP on healthcare.

Is a government run plan the only way to do this? Certainly not. But fearmongering over the cost cutting that has to occur…I’m not understanding the point, outside of the purely political one.

ernesto on March 15, 2010 at 7:47 AM

Here is the difference: In our current system, if you are denied care reimbursement by your insurance company, you are free to pay the doctor cash for treatment. In a government run system, if you are denied care, you have no recourse. Therefore, the fear-mongering is completely appropriate, especially when you think of the Kevorkians-on-steroids like Ezekiel Emmanuel that could and likely would be manning the death panels.

Kafir on March 15, 2010 at 1:27 PM

Barry Obama, baby killer. The Baby Killer will be personally responsible for more deaths than Hitler, Stalin and Mao if this passes.

Daveyardbird on March 15, 2010 at 12:14 PM
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That is his goal.

Barry Obama, baby killer, is a EUGENICS loving PROGRESSIVE.

As EUGENICS loving PROGRESSIVE Margaret Sanger, founder of planned parenthood, said the “human weeds” must be eliminated.

Obamacare = LEGAL EXTERMINATION

.

ms on March 15, 2010 at 1:28 PM

Anyone listen to Obama in Ohio, talking about the woman with cancer, who’s insurance premiums went so high? I feel for this woman. I truly do.

But I will say this. If she, and the others that support this, honestly believe she’d get more, or better treatment from a government run health care system, she’s sorrily mistaken. She will be pegged as a NO TREATMENT…because cancer can be long sustaining, and expensive with treatments. She would have been knocked off long ago, with government run health care.

I’ll say this for Obama. That he can stand up as he does, and blatantly lie to these people, by telling them they’d get better treatment thru is ideas, and plans…well….I don’t admire him. I loathe him for it. He’s disgusting, and vile!!!

capejasmine on March 15, 2010 at 1:29 PM

Here is the difference: In our current system, if you are denied care reimbursement by your insurance company, you are free to pay the doctor cash for treatment. In a government run system, if you are denied care, you have no recourse. Therefore, the fear-mongering is completely appropriate, especially when you think of the Kevorkians-on-steroids like Ezekiel Emmanuel that could and likely would be manning the death panels.

Kafir on March 15, 2010 at 1:27 PM

You should have gone a little further with your explanation. Under ObamaCare, a decision by one of the panels to deny treatment, is UNAPPEALABLE. Under our current system, if the insurance company says no to a proposed treatment, the Doctor can appeal, and if the insurance company still says no, you can ask your state insurance commission to intervene.

NoNails on March 15, 2010 at 2:17 PM

NObamaCare will cause: premiums will skyrocket, taxes will skyrocket, Jobs will be lost, SEIU will take control of hospitals, Liberal Socialist Democrats will take over HMOs, Liberal Socialist Democrats will take over on the Federal dole Insurance, Medicare CUT, Medicaid CUT, Federal Death panels Called Quality of Service, miss anything??

mathewsjw on March 15, 2010 at 4:24 PM

Anyone listen to Obama in Ohio, talking about the woman with cancer, who’s insurance premiums went so high? I feel for this woman. I truly do.

But I will say this. If she, and the others that support this, honestly believe she’d get more, or better treatment from a government run health care system, she’s sorrily mistaken. She will be pegged as a NO TREATMENT…because cancer can be long sustaining, and expensive with treatments. She would have been knocked off long ago, with government run health care.

I’ll say this for Obama. That he can stand up as he does, and blatantly lie to these people, by telling them they’d get better treatment thru is ideas, and plans…well….I don’t admire him. I loathe him for it. He’s disgusting, and vile!!!

capejasmine on March 15, 2010 at 1:29 PM

Lots more to that story than we knew earlier today. The woman he was talking about was supposed to be his ‘we need free healthcare for all’ prop in Ohio, and she landed in the hospital, where she is getting treated.

The woman is now in her 50′s, was diagnosed in her 30′s, and has not had a full time job in about 12 years. She lives in a home that was owned by her parents, so I don’t know about that ‘premiums getting so high she was afraid to lose her home’ thing.

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/03/fail-obamas-health-care-rally-prop-is-in-hospital-getting-care-despite-no-insurance/

She was paying $5,000/year, it went up to $8,000/yr she dropped it.

koz on March 15, 2010 at 7:44 PM

You should have gone a little further with your explanation. Under ObamaCare, a decision by one of the panels to deny treatment, is UNAPPEALABLE. Under our current system, if the insurance company says no to a proposed treatment, the Doctor can appeal, and if the insurance company still says no, you can ask your state insurance commission to intervene.

NoNails on March 15, 2010 at 2:17 PM

Exactly right: this is the real evil.

A discussion of “health care solutions” with Obamacrats is totally irrelevant because there is a fundamental disagreement over what good health care is.

Most patients would argue that good health care is that which prolongs or produces a better quality of life.

Obamacrats think that good health care is that which costs the government the least, regardless of the cost to the individual or his family.

Our present health care system, though imperfect, is the best in the world. “Insurance” is simply one of several health care funding systems available to citizens in this country: it was never the problem.

Obamacrats are waving “Insurance” around like a Red Herring in an effort to distract us from their real agenda, which is to control your life and death.

landlines on March 16, 2010 at 11:59 AM

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