GOP: Democrats about 10 votes short in the House
posted at 5:03 pm on March 15, 2010 by Allahpundit
A new whip count hits Twitter every five minutes or so, replete with the latest “X says he undecided!” news, but I think every last one of them is pointless. There are a few Dems in the “definitely not” column but most seem to be in the “I’m leaning no but can be probably bought off” category. We won’t know which bribes Pelosi has in mind for which congressmen until tomorrow, so what’s the use in trying to predict now? It’s pure gamesmanship, aimed at convincing fencesitters that there’s a tide breaking in favor/against the bill. Game on:
In a press conference on Capitol Hill today, Rep. David Dreier (R., Calif.), ranking Republican on the House Rules Committee, said the word around the House is that Democrats are still about 10 votes away from securing the 216 they will need to pass changes to the health-care bill. Dreier added that that number might be moving in the wrong direction.
“You are hearing that people are peeling off,” he said.
Dreier also repeated the warnings about the Senate that many Congressional Republicans have been issuing to the other side of the aisle. Dreier said that, assuming House Democrats succeed in passing a reconciliation measure along to the Senate, even marginal changes made there would require the measure to return to the House yet again…
The reconciliation measure would also have to be sent back to the House if any provisions contained therein were struck down by the Byrd Rule.
Imagine this. The Dems use the Slaughter strategy to pass a reconciliation fix, with Reid’s underlying Senate bill “deemed” passed by implication. But then, when Reid tries to pass the House’s reconciliation fix, the GOP succeeds in having parts of it stripped out or revised. A stripped-out fix eventually passes the Senate, but then it has to go back to the House to be passed there too so that the reconciliation bills in both chambers are identical. What if it doesn’t pass there? The result would be that Reid’s Senate bill will be law even though (a) there was no vote on the bill itself and (b) the bill in which it was “incorporated” itself failed to become law. Can’t wait. Bear in mind too that Obama’s own pollster is attempting to sell Democrats on voting for the bill per the theory that it’s not the legislation itself that the public hates, merely the dealmaking and procedural shenanigans. Even if that were true, how’s it going to play out at the polls when voters get a good hard whiff of Slaughter’s nonsense and the imminent Pelosi bribes, which have now been blessed by the White House?
DeMint says he’s “less confident” now than he was previously that O-Care can be stopped, but Clyburn is suddenly talking about an Easter Sunday deadline. And there is a reason to think Dreier might be right about people peeling off. According to a new poll of swing districts, the bill’s as toxic as you would expect:
Seven in 10 would vote against a House member who votes for the Senate health-care bill with its special interest provisions. That includes 45% of self-identified Democrats, 72% of independents and 88% of Republicans. Three in four disagree that the federal government should mandate that everyone buy a government-approved insurance plan (64% strongly so), and 81% say any reform should focus first on reducing costs. Three quarters agree that Americans have the right to choose not to participate in any health-care system or plan without a penalty or fine…
But the survey does provide a little good news for wavering Democrats. A congressman can buy himself a little grace if he had previously voted for health-care reform but now votes against it. Forty-nine percent of voters will feel more supportive of that member if he does so, 40% less supportive. More dramatically, 58% of voters say they will be more supportive of their congressman’s re-election if he votes against the bill a second time. However, for those members who voted against it in November and vote yes this time, 61% of voters say they will be less likely to support their re-election.
Here’s the crosstab on how House members can improve/hurt their chances with their health-care vote. Obviously, having voted no in November on Pelosi’s bill and voting no again now is the way to go to maximize one’s chances for reelection:

Exit question: Is there anything the GOP can do this week to sway fencesitters? I was thinking this morning that it might not be a bad idea for McConnell and Boehner to pledge publicly that if the bill fails, they’ll make health-care reform their number two priority next year behind jobs. One of the big worries for centrist Dems is that if they vote no this time, health-care reform will be headed for another 16-year legislative limbo. If the GOP can somehow alleviate the “now or never” fear, it might give just enough Blue Dogs the comfort they need.









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When will this be over….
pseudonominus on March 15, 2010 at 5:07 PM
Sane New Yorkers: here are the House members in your delegation that can be persuaded to kill this unconstitutional process and POS:
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The Honorable Michael E. McMahon
323 Cannon HOB
Washington, D.C. 20515
Phone: (202) 225-3371
Fax (202) 226-1272
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The Honorable Tim Bishop
306 Cannon H.O.B.
Washington, DC 20515
Phone 202-225-3826
Fax(202) 225-3143
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The Honorable Dan Maffei
1630 Longworth HOB
Washington, D.C. 20515
Phone (202) 225-3701
Fax(202) 225-4042
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The Honorable Bill Owens
2366 Rayburn House Office Bldg
Washington, DC 20515-3223
Phone 202-225-4611
Fax(202) 226-0621
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The Honorable Scott Murphy
Washington, DC Office
120 Cannon HOB
Washington, DC 20515
Phone (202) 225-5614
Fax(202) 225-1168
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The Honorable Mike Arcuri
127 Cannon HOB •
Washington, DC 20515
Phone (202)225-3665
Fax(202)225-1891
ParisParamus on March 15, 2010 at 5:07 PM
What do you expect when you’re ramrodding a VERY unwanted bill into the heart of a constitutional crisis and Obama and Pelosi are singing “C’mon join the magic bus!”
It frightens me that we’re THIS close to passing this monstrosity without concerns for law, tradition or the VERY CIVIL STABILITY OF THIS NATION.
Even the controversial civil rights legislation had a full 3/4 majority.
ROGUE
GOVERNMENT
Skywise on March 15, 2010 at 5:08 PM
I agree this is making my head hurt
gophergirl on March 15, 2010 at 5:09 PM
this is sickening!
like slow death. I wish someone of the GOP Reps would step in and say stop it!!!
Vote already.
bperiwinkle on March 15, 2010 at 5:09 PM
Just to be clear, “members peeling off” means more people are saying ‘no’. See here:
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ODhlMjg0MTM3MWMwZDg5MTdmZWFiNjQ5NzM3YjlhYTg=
bilups on March 15, 2010 at 5:09 PM
We already knew that. Hence Obama and Pelosi basically telling the Dems in the House to walk the plank.
Doughboy on March 15, 2010 at 5:10 PM
If this legislation dies….so also dies O’s presidency?
pseudonominus on March 15, 2010 at 5:11 PM
What part of H@ll NO! Don’t they understand?
Chip on March 15, 2010 at 5:12 PM
A good teacher of mine, long time ago, discussed how bad it is to trap an animal on all 3 sides with you being the 4th… it WILL fight its way out.
You’ve got all this charged up political energy and it HAS to go somewhere. If the Republicans could put forth a counter bill that would give Obama (or the blue dogs) something to acquiesce to… an “honorable out” as it were. I’m 99% sure the Dems will take it and the Republicans might even be able to gain control of the house in the process before the election.
But I’m also sure that Obama and Pelosi don’t want this. It really is up to GOP leadership now to cross aisles and drag the DNC back to the center.
Skywise on March 15, 2010 at 5:12 PM
Keep pushing folks, every last bit —keep it up. GW spent the winter in Valley Forge with the boys, and we can too thrash the phone/email/fax lines from our vantage points.
The System is Working….
ted c on March 15, 2010 at 5:13 PM
I have no doubt that as soon as the House passes the bill Obama would immediatly sign it into law without Reconciliation
pseudonominus on March 15, 2010 at 5:14 PM
No, Barry could show that he’s magnanimous and scrap that monstrosity and start over with reforms that will actually save money for people and not control their lives.
Chip on March 15, 2010 at 5:15 PM
Y’mean sorta like attempts to fix Social Security?
a capella on March 15, 2010 at 5:15 PM
Yes, there is a lot they can do… but I doubt they’re smart enough to do it… they have less to promise… they would have to promise to get back on health care sometime… they would have to promise to not use a past yes vote against them… they would have to promise bend on some other legislation like immigration reform… so that the Dems(including moderates) won’t go into the next election with nothing much to show…
ninjapirate on March 15, 2010 at 5:15 PM
Shaka, when the walls fell.
year_of_the_dingo on March 15, 2010 at 5:15 PM
Murphy is claiming his phone line is backed up, so email him as well.
http://scottmurphy.house.gov/
Connie on March 15, 2010 at 5:15 PM
Women and children hardest hit, story@11
TheVer on March 15, 2010 at 5:15 PM
Dammit. I hate when I get these references.
lorien1973 on March 15, 2010 at 5:16 PM
OBAMA ACKBAR!!!1!
Seriously, at what point does Obama just try declaring ObamaCare by executive order? Who would be surprised?
Kensington on March 15, 2010 at 5:16 PM
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra.
lorien1973 on March 15, 2010 at 5:17 PM
Regardless of how this shakes out the progressive movement is getting a stake driven through its heart and will be buried if the Tea Party movement continues for at least ten more years.
tim c on March 15, 2010 at 5:17 PM
So the fate of our country’s economy lies in the hands of a few bottom feeding, career politicians? At least in a week or so we’ll have the short list of the most despicable Americans ever born. We should make them famous!
repvoter on March 15, 2010 at 5:17 PM
If they were honorable, they wouldn’t need to be swayed; they’d already be in the “no” camp.
Kafir on March 15, 2010 at 5:18 PM
Kill the bill.
OmahaConservative on March 15, 2010 at 5:18 PM
No carrots, only sticks.
Ensure them that a ‘yes’ vote will guarantee that those Dems are targeted mercilessly with an electorate that’s already itching to throw them out.
Damnit – the GOP needs to let the Dems set the agenda *less*, not *more*. Promise to take up healthcare as a number 2 item next year? How about promise to do cap and trade/tax as number 3, promise some more czars, higher taxes, etc while they’re at it?
Midas on March 15, 2010 at 5:18 PM
If they can do the math and want to keep their cushy job with all the perks, they will vote no.
TXMomof3 on March 15, 2010 at 5:18 PM
The fact is that Republicans would have to appeal strongly to a moderate democratic agenda… because you have the tricky problem of most of the new Republican seats coming from moderate democrats… some of them are going to be gone anyway, but if you want them to vote against Obamacare you’re going to have to give them something they can run on and give them something to chew on…
ninjapirate on March 15, 2010 at 5:19 PM
Can we stop the beating around the bush (pun intended) and call this administration what it really is—a banana republic dictatorship?
dirtseller on March 15, 2010 at 5:19 PM
Rep. Drier is a great Congressman, and seemingly great man (he’s on Dennis Prager’s show all the time); you can take his word re the status report.
ParisParamus on March 15, 2010 at 5:19 PM
9 cents short of a dime.
Blind in one ear, and deaf in the other eye.
singlemalt_18 on March 15, 2010 at 5:20 PM
You know, I think they tried this – and lost elections in 2006 and 2008 as a result, causing us to be having the stupid conversation during this previously unimaginable Constitutional crisis moment.
NO.
When Republicans are ‘Dem Lite’, they LOSE. Remember President McCain?
Yeah, I don’t either.
Midas on March 15, 2010 at 5:21 PM
New census. Gerrymandering. Amnesty.
a capella on March 15, 2010 at 5:21 PM
kill the bill
pedestrian on March 15, 2010 at 5:22 PM
“The beast at Tanagra” (Obamacare)
“Zinda, his face black, his eyes red”
Chip on March 15, 2010 at 5:22 PM
This is one pledge I hope they are lying their a$$es off.
Introduce 5 or 7 separate items on HealthCare fixes; Tort Reform, InterState Sales etc. NO COMPREHENSIVE BILL.
barnone on March 15, 2010 at 5:23 PM
I’d promise them to run a weak candidate against them, and to deny any real funding to that candidate.
This vote is worth it.
pseudonominus on March 15, 2010 at 5:23 PM
The Republicans need to block the Slaughter House strategy. That cannot be allowed and should be immediately taken up by the SCOTUS as unconstitutional.
Enoxo on March 15, 2010 at 5:25 PM
You’re delusional… there are too many morons here that don’t care about real politics… they just want to scream and yell on the internet…
ninjapirate on March 15, 2010 at 5:25 PM
I was in a taxi today and the radio was tuned in to the Anointed One’s speech in Ohio. The speech was over the top and hysterical and more like a revival meeting than a speech about health care. He went on and on about a woman who had to pay $6,000 a month for health care. Really? And he went on and on about how evil health insurance companies are. Someone fainted in the audience. He went on and on about how the Republicans are playing politics even though it is a bipartisan bill. The man is delusional and a demagogue and a clear and present danger to our Republic. As is the national socialist democrat party.
Dhuka on March 15, 2010 at 5:26 PM
“Temba, his arms wide!”
We’re running out of quotes here.
Kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhn!
(Well Paul Winfield was in that one, too)
Bobbertsan on March 15, 2010 at 5:26 PM
It bears repeating.
But what we’re missing right now — and it’s a huge, yawning void — is a Republican leader stepping forward to summarize the madness and abuses of the past eight months and bring the outrage and moral force of our beliefs and all they draw on from our history to a sharp and withering point. Do we have such a figure, a man or woman, a leader? It would be the time for one to emerge. This is the Daniel Webster and the devil moment.
I’m not talking about piecemeal arguments about cost or legislative chicanery or whining complaints about our “disappointment” in the President or laments about “lost opportunities.” I’m talking about a towering moral and historical case about how we got to this moment and what this moment means, how we stand at a fateful edge of Statism and how we stand to lose our American freedoms. Who has the skills and guts and personal force to step forward?
Crickets from the GOP.
rrpjr on March 15, 2010 at 5:28 PM
This article: by Morgan Worstler on Big Government covers that very subject. According to her, the two most important elements of the “Free Pass” would be:
The Free Pass should include:
* A guarantee no national money will be used against the Democrat in the general election.
* A guarantee if the Democrat wants to jump parties (far less likely), he/she will receive the RNC’s endorsement in the primary & national money in the general.
I’d say if doing that gives us the “NO” votes, then it makes sense to do it. Killing this bill has to take top priority.
Matt Helm on March 15, 2010 at 5:28 PM
First off, if this passes doctors will simply stop taking insurance/medicare. Many have already moved in that direction. For many common ailments that will actually work better for the consumer.
Secondly, I will never, and I mean never pay a dime to the government for health care/no-health care penalties. I don’t care if I become a criminal. It will never happen.
I suspect that when people figure out that they will be paying for four years of coverage that they will never get my ranks will increase.
I can only speak for myself, but I doubt I’m alone on this one.
Dorvillian on March 15, 2010 at 5:28 PM
Far too many morons here that insist on repeating mistakes of the past expecting better behavior and results out of the Democrats.
Midas on March 15, 2010 at 5:28 PM
And he sounds angry.
conservative pilgrim on March 15, 2010 at 5:29 PM
Mary Landrieu’s phones are still jammed.
Jocundus on March 15, 2010 at 5:30 PM
That’s some “Face Palm of the Year” nominee stuff right there.
GOP actively working to help vulnerable Dems get re-elected? As a *plan*?
W.T.F.
Midas on March 15, 2010 at 5:32 PM
DeMint says “He’s less confident now that Obamacare can be stopped.” WTF??????
Doesn’t this moron understand in a poker game, when everything comes down to a bluff, you never, ever, intimate there is even a remote possibility you’re holding a weak hand.
Where do we find these as**oles?
alwyr on March 15, 2010 at 5:32 PM
I’m sure Republicans would accept that Insurance companies must drop “pre-existing” issues from their plans in exchange for a Republican idea like tort reform or allowing insurance to be purchased across state lines.
Skywise on March 15, 2010 at 5:34 PM
Called Owens already and told him I was opposed to healthcare. He’s toast, I’m still planning to work with the Hoffman campaign actively.
Called Murphy (who represents the other half of my town) and told him I’d support him if he votes no.
Red Cloud on March 15, 2010 at 5:34 PM
You do what you have to to get this bill killed! That has to be first priority. If that means giving a few swing Dems a better shot at their seats, then that’s what you do. It’s like sacrificing one of your rooks if that means that you’ll get the opponent’s queen a few moves down the line.
Matt Helm on March 15, 2010 at 5:34 PM
Phasers on extra crispy, FIRE! To the pit with the prime directive!
Oldnuke on March 15, 2010 at 5:35 PM
Re: the exit question,
maybe the GOP could re-work the Schoolhouse Rock video about how a bill becomes a law, so that it includes all of the arm-twisting, empty promises, and the Slaughter rule.
It could demonstrate how to surround and strangle freedom and independence, the new goals of our overseers.
lacerta on March 15, 2010 at 5:36 PM
You’re not alone.
Electrongod on March 15, 2010 at 5:36 PM
I’m right there with you. I’ll go in the wind for as long as possible then gladly go to jail before I’ll give them my money.
thomasaur on March 15, 2010 at 5:36 PM
I hope people aren’t counting on Kucinich and other liberals who have said no. If it is at all close they will vote for it no matter what they have said so far – they will never be the ones to let the dream die.
RINO in Name Only on March 15, 2010 at 5:36 PM
Lets say they pass the senate bill in the house without any changes, but with the “promise” that the reconciliation bill will take out the ugly stuff some reps want out.
So whose to say that BO wouldn’t veto the reconcilliation bill and we end up with the crap sandwhich as law.
jbh45 on March 15, 2010 at 5:37 PM
Here’s what strikes me about that exit statement: I understand why it was said, and the need to say it, but are we dealing with children here or what? Do these politicians not see placating when it’s right in their face?
BKeyser on March 15, 2010 at 5:39 PM
This like something out of a Marx Brothers movie.
I guess the whole Ides of March thing isn’t in play?
Hening on March 15, 2010 at 5:40 PM
I will not be satisfied until I can definitively say, “It’s dead, Jim”. I’m not in that place yet.
Philly on March 15, 2010 at 5:40 PM
It’s more like resigning the game to avoid losing your rook.
pedestrian on March 15, 2010 at 5:40 PM
Nancy has given them hope that this is just the beginning and single payer is right down the road. They’ll lunge at that like a small mouth bass at dusk.
a capella on March 15, 2010 at 5:40 PM
Memo to GOP:
Take. No. Prisoners.
Scorched earth.
The Chicago way.
Heh.
Bruno Strozek on March 15, 2010 at 5:40 PM
At which point the government will make it unlawful for a Doctor to accept cash payments. If the government is willing to go this far then I don’t see them backing down to the doctors.
chemman on March 15, 2010 at 5:41 PM
SarahPalinUSA:
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Juno77 on March 15, 2010 at 5:42 PM
On his site he as a Health Care Survey. Hell, I’m in So Cal but I completed it anyway…with the price being I get e-mails from him in the future….to an e-mail account I rarely use.
Patrick S on March 15, 2010 at 5:42 PM
I always think of the Monty Python snippet of the ‘et tu, Brute?’ – but performed on with Aldis lamps.
Midas on March 15, 2010 at 5:42 PM
This like something out of a Marx Brothers movie.
I guess the whole Ides of March thing isn’t in play?
Hening on March 15, 2010 at 5:40 PM
Itsa no gouda for you; itsa no gouda for me.
Kill the Bill.
kingsjester on March 15, 2010 at 5:43 PM
ugh….my head hurts
cmsinaz on March 15, 2010 at 5:44 PM
I agree wholeheartedly. Make this pledge!
Then vote down Obamacare!
Then bounce McConnell and Boehner and do whatchalike!
Chris_Balsz on March 15, 2010 at 5:44 PM
This whole mess is making me physically ill. I want to believe we can kill this thing, but my gut keeps telling me it’s a done deal.Scary times we are in.
sandee on March 15, 2010 at 5:44 PM
Not at all. All you need is a few–just enough to make sure the bill is killed. What would you rather have–the bill killed at the cost of one or two Dems who might have been defeated reelected or the bill passed with a much more difficult and painful struggle to get it repealed/declared unconstitutional?
Matt Helm on March 15, 2010 at 5:44 PM
I bet there’s a boatload of democrats who want a do over on Obama. This guy has seriously crapped in their cornflakes.
“Democrat” has become a bad word.
Nothing, I mean nothing the Republicans have ever done compares with the raw arrogance and lust for power, money and control that Obama and his minions have shown.
For the next fifty years we’ll be using this stuff as ammo against them.
darwin on March 15, 2010 at 5:44 PM
That they are within 10 votes of passing this marxist travesty is frightening. The way they are trying to pass it makes it even more so.
So, to the resident trolls, if Bush had tried using the same procedural chicanery to pass Social Security reform, how supportive would you have been?
This is nothing but an overt act of revolution against our free Republic and Constititutional form of government.
AZfederalist on March 15, 2010 at 5:44 PM
If this sh1tsandwich passes, I don’t see ANY reason for young people to study for 8-12 years to become part of the medical profession.
You think the price of health care is high now….just wait until the supply of providers dries up.
PappaMac on March 15, 2010 at 5:44 PM
That was in HillaryCare. With a 10 year prison sentence to back it up.
pedestrian on March 15, 2010 at 5:45 PM
Ah, come on, what was wrong with my post that the censor ate it!?
AZfederalist on March 15, 2010 at 5:46 PM
Ditto
I’m about 90% self sufficient at this point and am working real hard to get to 100%. The 100% would involve the ability to barter with neighbors. I won’t go down without a fight.
chemman on March 15, 2010 at 5:46 PM
It’s not a done deal. Even if it passes there are lawyers lining up to challenge it, and the Republicans will run on repealing it and passing a bill that people actually like.
darwin on March 15, 2010 at 5:46 PM
Well, I’m on vacation and haven’t got time to play games with the censor software. It was a reasonable post stating that the fact that they are within 10 votes of passing this marxist travesty is frightening. It also stated that this is nothing less than a r.e.v.o.l.t.i.o.n against our Constitutional form of government.
AZfederalist on March 15, 2010 at 5:47 PM
Pretty much. Hey … you said the “R” word. Did your comment get moderated?
darwin on March 15, 2010 at 5:48 PM
Apologies, my post did go through, just slowly.
AZfederalist on March 15, 2010 at 5:48 PM
darwin, thanks, I needed that.This isn’t the best week for me. Our house is being auctioned off Thursday. Hopefully they will give us a couple weeks to move our stuff.
sandee on March 15, 2010 at 5:48 PM
Never mind … I see it did.
darwin on March 15, 2010 at 5:49 PM
Awww … hang in there and good luck.
Be strong.
darwin on March 15, 2010 at 5:49 PM
The fact that Pelosi is talking about transforming America with ObamaCare as just the start means she see more potential votes on the far left than in the middle.
pedestrian on March 15, 2010 at 5:51 PM
You don’t live in NE, do you?
PappaMac on March 15, 2010 at 5:52 PM
This bill keeps raising from its crypt. At first I thought there would be no way the “Slaughter” idea was going to work, and SCOTUS would kill it for sure, but now I’m not so sure.
///I think SCOTUS has a requirement that anything they review for Constitutionality has to be fewer than 3000 pages. So, now you know why every time they re-do the bill it gets even longer. I believe we’re at 2,903, correct?///
ConservativeTony on March 15, 2010 at 5:52 PM
The six headed monster that will not die. This is not representative government, this is not the America I recognize.
This professor president experiment proves more a mistake every single day.
All this mess for his monument bill, nothing more and he has a complicit fall guy in Pelosi. She is just too dumb to know it.
FireBlogger on March 15, 2010 at 5:53 PM
If that is true (/s) then we are already sunk. Saw on another site that it was up to 3300+ pages.
chemman on March 15, 2010 at 5:53 PM
PappaMac, no we live in California. We bought our home in 2006 at the height of the prices and put another 100,000 dollars into it. Unfortunately, the bottom dropped out and my husbands Construction company folded.One of the funemployed I guess. Anyway, we will be fine.Life goes on.
sandee on March 15, 2010 at 5:55 PM
This
professorlecturer president experiment proves more a mistake every single day.FireBlogger on March 15, 2010 at 5:53 PM
FIFY. He never was a professor (full, assistant, associate) at any time. He was just a common, ordinary lecturer.
chemman on March 15, 2010 at 5:56 PM
Here’s some amusing news – I heard Hannity say that Obama is trying to bribe wavering members by promising to campaign for them if they vote yea. How’s that for cluelessness and arrogance?
Your idea to make this the job #2 is a good one. I have a question of my own:
If the Pelosi/Reid shenanigans get “health care” crammed down our throats and we take the House and Senate back in 2010, can we starve the beast by refusing to fund it? I’m thinking of what the Dems did with the Vietnam War. And what if we pushed through a flat tax or “Fair Tax” which didn’t single out “the rich”, who are now being asked to pay for this fiasco with all sorts of punitive taxes?
Buy Danish on March 15, 2010 at 5:57 PM
From Today’s Neal’s Nuze:
History has come full circle.
Chip on March 15, 2010 at 5:59 PM
Some of those ideas have merit.
chemman on March 15, 2010 at 5:59 PM
Damn, its only funny when my facts are correct. 3300 pages!!??
As FireBlogger reminds me, it looks like we’ve been turned into another form of government. Government Representation–Of the government, By the government And for the government.
ConservativeTony on March 15, 2010 at 6:00 PM
If they succeed in “deeming a law passed” without actually voting on it, this will not b e the last time they attempt this. They will start deeming all kinds of laws passed without ever voting on them.
This is not self government. This is anarchy.
Congress is not following law. I don’t know what else you call it. They are forcing, seizing, stealing and destroying all in the name of what? We are not talking petty theft here. We’ve got what amounts to an armed gang in congress attempting to make us all slaves just by “deeming it so!”
JellyToast on March 15, 2010 at 6:01 PM
Where is the GOP bipartisan leadership in the House working hard to make the point that killing the bill will be Congress’s first major bipartisan effort since One Bad Ass Mistake America took over.
As I see it, the plan for the Dem’s is if it fails, it will be the NoPublicans fault and they’ll run with that thru the fall.
This isn’t time to follow the GOP RINO leadership tradition of hunkering down in the trenches. The best defense is a STRONG, AGGRESSIVE AND PERSISTANT OFFENSE — KILL THE BILL with an in your face bipartisan effort!
drfredc on March 15, 2010 at 6:05 PM
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