Dem caucus chairman: The public doesn’t much care what procedure we use to pass this thing

posted at 8:49 pm on March 15, 2010 by Allahpundit

Via the Right Scoop, this is the second time in as many days that I’ve seen a Democrat shrug off the idea of using the Slaughter strategy on grounds of public antipathy. (Axelrod did it yesterday too on MTP.) Normally I’d agree with them — parliamentary rules are baroque and boring — but these aren’t normal circumstances. This is one-sixth of the economy at stake, to pass a piece of legislation the Democrats have been after for decades, with the public already angry about procedural shenanigans involving backroom deals. A former federal appellate judge appointed by Bush took to the Journal’s op-ed page today to declare the Slaughter strategy flatly unconstitutional, which means there’ll almost certainly be a court challenge to try to undo the legislation if they use this procedure to pass the bill. Given the potential downside of all that, I’m frankly amazed that they’re still considering it instead of simply biting the bullet and having an up or down vote on Reid’s bill. In fact, in light of the parliamentarian’s ruling last week, I’m not even sure how they still benefit from the Slaughter strategy at this point. Even if they use it, the only bill Obama can sign is the underlying Senate bill, not the House’s reconciliation fix (which the Senate wouldn’t have passed yet). If something goes wrong in the upper chamber with reconciliation, we’re all stuck with the Reid bill as law. In which case, why doesn’t Pelosi simply avoid the bad optics and potential court problem and just vote yes or no on the Reid bill with a reconciliation fix to follow separately?

Has anyone seen any polling about the Slaughter strategy yet, incidentally? I’m guessing not, as it’s only a week or so old and is hard enough to explain that it doesn’t lend itself easily to questions. But I’d be keen to see how nonchalant the public really is at the thought of health-care reform passing without an actual yes or no vote on the bill in the House.

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I thought that was Ted Kennedy there for a second…..

Yakko77 on March 15, 2010 at 10:33 PM

Liberty and Tyranny………….two roads for America to choose

Which road will America take?

PappyD61 on March 15, 2010 at 10:39 PM

I suppose that means Schoolhouse Rock will join Police Academy, Karate Kid, Tron, et al.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEJL2Uuv-oQ

rogerb on March 15, 2010 at 10:43 PM

Chip on March 15, 2010 at 10:33 PM

I understand the reference…I still maintain that at least we have our voices and our ammo…two things the Germans didn’t have. And another thing: no one can intimidate us into not using either if we feel the need.

Chewy the Lab on March 15, 2010 at 10:46 PM

Another slow learner.

diogenes on March 15, 2010 at 10:54 PM

This guy is sucking on his own exhaust if he thinks that people don’t care about this rape of the Constitution.
I “deem” him a complete idiot.

gordo on March 15, 2010 at 11:02 PM

I believe they have the votes. They are just like a Russian Roulette player that just can’t muster the courage to pull the trigger but can’t backout either. Eventually, the will rationalize that it won’t matter either way or that the public will come to accept the great thing they have done, close their eyes and pull.

whbates on March 15, 2010 at 11:14 PM

Who is the clown that Chrissy was interviewing? The jerk claims that there will be a vote because Congress will be working “on behalf of the American people.” Is he not aware that the American people do NOT want this bill (as evidenced by town halls, emails, faxes, TEA party protests, and polls). As a Representative, he and his power-mad cronies are not working “on behalf of the American people” if they vote against the people’s wishes. Instead the power mad are imposing their own ideology.

onlineanalyst on March 15, 2010 at 11:31 PM

This public is paying attention to the process.

AnninCA on March 15, 2010 at 11:48 PM

JellyToast on March 15, 2010 at 10:31 PM

Just think, JT, if this abortion of a bill passes (whether through “deeming” or not), you can quit your day job in order to paint to your heart’s content, according to Pelosi.

onlineanalyst on March 15, 2010 at 11:57 PM

Dick Morris on Hannity just made a great point if this bill pass anytime someone doesn’t get the health care they want the Democrats will get blamed. They own the health care system if it passes.

lavell12 on March 16, 2010 at 12:05 AM

This guy is the one who is now quoted that “We have the votes!” and has some Conservative blog readers in a tizzy/funk tonight. Take that with a grain of salt.

Marcus on March 16, 2010 at 12:12 AM

I want to pull the face flap back and see just what kind of machinery is inside that head. Are these Democrat entities even human?

leftnomore on March 16, 2010 at 2:41 AM

Indeed not! Half Democrat, Half human.

leftnomore on March 16, 2010 at 2:42 AM

I’m with you gordo.

elifino on March 16, 2010 at 4:30 AM

Yesterday, I talked to some lady who answers the phones at a Dem Rep’s office. I asked her about the individual mandate. She didn’t know a thing about it.

When I explained it to her (and she looked it up on the computer), she was fine with it. She thought it was dandy, ‘just like car insurance’ (I had to explain to her why it’s not.)

She doesn’t care about procedure. Or the Constitution. Or the rule of law. Many of us still do, though.

Grace_is_sufficient on March 16, 2010 at 5:24 AM

She doesn’t care about procedure. Or the Constitution. Or the rule of law…
 
Grace_is_sufficient on March 16, 2010 at 5:24 AM

 
I guarantee she knows who is making it to the finals on American Idol, though, and can probably name the winners for every year it has been on. That’s the type of person who voted McCain off the island elected this historic president.

rogerb on March 16, 2010 at 6:35 AM

The Democratic leadership isn’t delusional. They know exactly what they’re doing, and couldn’t care less as to whether or not it’s constitutional. They realize that this is as close as they’re likely to get to establishing a framework to develop single-payer down the road, and Obama has squandered all of his political capital on this one measure in the hope of having another “gold medal” to hang around his neck and put himself in the history books. If he fails at this, his presidency is likely kaput in terms of getting anything else done. He has wasted an entire year pushing this one measure for his own glorification, while the economy stalls, the contentious issue with Iran, and the slow dissolution of the bonds with our allies (Britain in particular) continue apace. Pelosi will be re-elected regardless of which way this goes, and as far as she’s concerned, the rest can go pound sand. They’ve backed themselves into a corner from which they cannot graciously extricate themselves upon failure. It borders on madness.

tpitman on March 16, 2010 at 6:43 AM

Dem caucus chairman: The public Democratic Party doesn’t much care what procedure the people want we use to are gonna pass this thing shove this down their throats

olesparkie on March 16, 2010 at 7:39 AM

Hot Air should have a daily reminder of contact points of Congressmen. A comment here does less than an e-mail or a telephone call to your Congressmen and women.

albill on March 16, 2010 at 7:58 AM

If I recall, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Chavez, (who’s left?) didn’t care what the public thought, either.
I agree with Chewy-we are very different from the people in those countries bcs of our arms & the WILL to resist this kind of tyranny.
I have faith in my fellow Americans that not ALL of us are blind sheep.

Badger40 on March 16, 2010 at 8:21 AM

I guarantee she knows who is making it to the finals on American Idol, though, and can probably name the winners for every year it has been on. That’s the type of person who voted McCain off the island elected this historic president.

rogerb on March 16, 2010 at 6:35 AM

I so sadly have to agree. What a world we live in.

Badger40 on March 16, 2010 at 8:23 AM

When I explained it to her (and she looked it up on the computer), she was fine with it. She thought it was dandy, ‘just like car insurance’ (I had to explain to her why it’s not.)

She doesn’t care about procedure. Or the Constitution. Or the rule of law. Many of us still do, though.

Grace_is_sufficient on March 16, 2010 at 5:24 AM

The constitution? You mean that old boring document written by those racist white men in like the 1300s or something? Whatever!

angryed on March 16, 2010 at 8:52 AM

This whole healthcare mess is so depressing. What’s the point of fighting anymore if Pillowosi et al plan to ram it down our throats, no matter what???

chai on March 16, 2010 at 8:52 AM

What air has this guy been breathin’?

CynicalOptimist on March 16, 2010 at 12:12 PM

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