Younger voters trending anti-abortion
posted at 10:55 am on March 12, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
Given the centrality of abortion to the ObamaCare debate, the latest news from Gallup should have Democrats concerned about the future of their party. They spent the last few months attempting to push through Congress a mechanism that would provide federal funding of abortions, which has stalled the bill in the House and threatens to kill ObamaCare. As Democrats attempt this, the youth vote that they so assiduously courted in 2008 has grown more anti-abortion:
Two important changes are apparent. One is a significant drop in the percentage of seniors saying all abortions should be illegal. This fell from 32% in the earliest years of the trend to 16% in the first half of the 1990s, but has since rebounded somewhat to 21%. This long-term 11-point decline among seniors compares with a 9-point increase — from 14% to 23% — in support for the “illegal in all circumstances” position among 18- to 29-year-olds since the early 1990s.
As a result, 18- to 29-year-olds are now roughly tied with seniors as the most likely of all age groups to hold this position on abortion — although all four groups are fairly close in their views. This is a sharp change from the late 1970s, when seniors were substantially more likely than younger age groups to want abortion to be illegal.
The “illegal in all circumstances” is an absolutionist position, and is a minority opinion among all groups. However, also among all groups, support for restrictions on abortion have been rising since the mid-1990s. That has a majority among all age groups in this latest survey. The best that “legal in all circumstances” scores is 28% among the 30-49 age group. With younger voters, only 24% believe in total legality.
Gallup did not poll on the question of public funding for abortion, but one can assume that those believing in total illegality are not likely to cheer for public funding. As the youth vote becomes more pro-life, they will also become more opposed to their tax dollars paying for abortions at any level. The more that the Democratic Party makes itself the party of abortion, the less these voters will remain loyal to them.
The ObamaCare bill is deeply unpopular for many reasons, and for young people, abortion should be a secondary consideration to the economic exploitation they will experience from the individual mandate. Abortion is a lot easier to understand, though, and expect the chicanery Democrats conducted to protect it to be remembered.
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Nice to have an excuse to use a pic of Hanna Giles. AP would have used Meggie BigMac.
wildcat84 on March 12, 2010 at 10:58 AM
who is that girl?
ted c on March 12, 2010 at 10:58 AM
dat ain’t hannah giles
ted c on March 12, 2010 at 10:58 AM
Lila Rose
thomasaur on March 12, 2010 at 10:59 AM
that’s Lila Rose
rslancer14 on March 12, 2010 at 10:59 AM
This is true. I see anti-abortion stuff all over campus now-a-days. Religious groups popping up around here too. Get ready for a youth spiritual re-awakening.
andy85719 on March 12, 2010 at 10:59 AM
Thou shalt not murder.
purtie simple?
ted c on March 12, 2010 at 11:00 AM
Those who favor abortion, have them.
Those who don’t, don’t.
More often than not, children grow up reflecting the political and moral values of their parents.
Entirely predictable.
MarkTheGreat on March 12, 2010 at 11:01 AM
FACT:Making approximately 96% of abortions illegal (those for reasons other than life of mother, rape, or incest) is favored by solid majorities of the US population (55-70% depending on pollster and question wording).
CDeb on March 12, 2010 at 11:02 AM
Everyone borne alive after 1973 is a survivor of Roe v. Wade. A survey of anyone under 37 necessarily excludes represetnatives of those who did not survive.
chaswv on March 12, 2010 at 11:02 AM
Well, good. It’s a hopeful sign.
Bob's Kid on March 12, 2010 at 11:03 AM
But just remember, those pro-lifers are a bunch of extremists.
Doughboy on March 12, 2010 at 11:03 AM
No wonder why Pelosi jumped on board the Reid/Obama “Damn the rest of PlaceboCare – mandated abortion funding ahead” charge into the chainguns – it’s their last chance to keep abortion-on-demand alive.
steveegg on March 12, 2010 at 11:03 AM
They grew up with ultrasounds of their little brothers and sisters who were on the way.
Wethal on March 12, 2010 at 11:03 AM
So, are you thinking that the pro-aborts are (non)breeding themselves out of existence?
oldleprechaun on March 12, 2010 at 11:05 AM
Don’t underatand why abortion should be considered secondary to economic exploitation unless you mean in a totally secular manner. If young people are opposed in a spiritual manner that should be a priority and the economic exploitation affects everyone even the pro-choice people.
fourdeucer on March 12, 2010 at 11:05 AM
Perhaps they are seeing how their children treat them.
katy the mean old lady on March 12, 2010 at 11:05 AM
I am pro-aborrtion. Libs love abortion. We need fewer libs.
IlikedAUH2O on March 12, 2010 at 11:06 AM
It’s a lot of things. People put ultrasound pictures of their kids on their facebook pages. You have movies like knocked up and juno with pro-life messages. GenY really is more socially liberal, especially on gay rights and even on dating/courtship. But the future is looking better, considering that Hispanics will continue to become a greater part of the electorate.
TimTebowSavesAmerica on March 12, 2010 at 11:07 AM
Very ood point. I’ll search for it – but a study was done that showed enhanced imaging in ultrasounds (3D) negates the “its not a life until its born” garbage from the left.
Odie1941 on March 12, 2010 at 11:07 AM
IlikedAUH2O on March 12, 2010 at 11:06 AM
that’s some tortured logic…/
ted c on March 12, 2010 at 11:08 AM
Murdering babies isn’t as appealling as Liberals make it out to be.
uknowmorethanme on March 12, 2010 at 11:08 AM
That’s good news!
Don’t think it will change anything tho. Even if more pro-life candidates get elected, sadly Roe v. Wade is never going to be overturned.
JetBoy on March 12, 2010 at 11:08 AM
The PRO-LIFE position IS the academic position.
The Pro-Choice position is this … “Hey, we don’t really know, and can’t really agree when life begins so lets, as a society, condone the killing of it anyway.”
Obama said it best when said that the question of when life begins is “above my paygrade”.
Then why is “Mr. Highest IQ of any President in History” condoning a practice that quite possibly destroys life by his own admission?
HondaV65 on March 12, 2010 at 11:09 AM
It is indicative of the moral decline of a nation when one can write a sentence like this with a straight face.
Let’s go over that again – money is more important than killing babies?
KinleyArdal on March 12, 2010 at 11:10 AM
uknowmorethanme on March 12, 2010 at 11:12 AM
uknowmorethanme on March 12, 2010 at 11:13 AM
I still say that if the left can legally to restrict my right to bear arms, an enumerated right, then we have can legally restrict the right to an abortion.
You must be 21 to legally obtain a permit for a gun/abortion, or a guardian/court must be consulted.
You must be mentally competant to obtain a permit for a gun/abortion.
You must attend a training course to legally obtain a permit for a gun/abortion.
You must wait 3 days in order obtain a permit for a gun/abortion. (I am OK with 9 months.)
Everytime an abortion is performed a life is lost. Hundreds of millions of guns will never be pointed at a human, much less take a human life.
barnone on March 12, 2010 at 11:15 AM
I think the yuuts may be trending anti-abortion. But on all other major social issues – gay marriage, guns – they are definitely in the liberal camp. So the question is will abortion trump everything else for them when it comes to voting. We’ll know when it happens.
angryed on March 12, 2010 at 11:16 AM
Care to try that one again? Maybe with an indication of what “economic exploitation” means? Because the only economic exploitation I know of here in the US is being done by labor unions.
Count to 10 on March 12, 2010 at 11:17 AM
The problem is that Democrats never foresaw the possibility that the future younger generation would develop something that the current generation of Democrats sadly lack: a conscience.
pilamaye on March 12, 2010 at 11:17 AM
Was there a “/s” missing at the end of that?
angryed on March 12, 2010 at 11:18 AM
Something is wrong with that statement.
DaydreamBeliever on March 12, 2010 at 11:19 AM
Because it’s reality…truth is hard to ignore.
Diane on March 12, 2010 at 11:19 AM
Which is why I said the moral decline of the country is obvious. That we allow it at all is, truthfully, the telling part – but even now, with the nation rather falling apart around us, the pocketbook is more important than fifty million of our own children sacrificed on the altar of liberalism?
Again, if that mindset is what we take in to renovating Congress, then the end of America will only be postponed a little while. Our priorities as a people, as a race, are out of whack to the maximum degree. Ignore it, and we’re screwed regardless.
KinleyArdal on March 12, 2010 at 11:19 AM
Lots of unfounded assertion and reading of tea leaves going on here Ed.
ernesto on March 12, 2010 at 11:19 AM
But don’t kids also tend to rebel against what their parents believe?
angryed on March 12, 2010 at 11:20 AM
For the alleged “party of science”, technology sure seems to be a big no-no for regressive utopians.
Tamp down medical innovation & research through HC “reform” & rationing; tamp down on space exploration by blocking NASA funding.
The enlightened loons think that when they close their eyes no one can see them. Thus, babies dismembered alive or boiled with saline within the womb cannot feel pain, or are not somehow human, and thus, do not matter, simply more garbage for the landfill. The lib mind must stop developing at age six or seven.
Liberals love death. Death of jobs, death of innovation, death of babies, euthanasia as “end of life counseling”, death of individualism. Monsters.
Ris4victory on March 12, 2010 at 11:20 AM
Yeah because 18-year-olds always reflect their parents values.
highhopes on March 12, 2010 at 11:20 AM
see
what have i been telling you geezers!!!!!!!
the youth isn’t a lost cause
/i kid about the “geezer” thing ;P
blatantblue on March 12, 2010 at 11:22 AM
It ought to concern your party that you consider it a “secondary issue” and try to describe serious pro-life opposition as “absolutionist”.
A large majority of people consider your economic issues of secondary concern, because of course the government can guarantee their income with tax credits and entitlements. I’ve followed your blogs for nearly a decade, and everytime those programs are jeopardized, you cave and demand the GOP get in line behind freebies and handouts.
Straddling the fence will not persuade those who view abortion as a rational choice, that it should ever be restricted; and it will persuade those who see it as murder, why it should ever be tolerated.
You don’t understand that the “absolutionists” are more politically active, and if you become hostile to that movement it’s going to be actively against you. What will your chances be in 2012, if Obama is not the Democrat nominee, and pro-life demonstrators are arrested at the GOP Convention?
Chris_Balsz on March 12, 2010 at 11:23 AM
I was commenting on Mr. Morrissey’s line about abortion being secondary to economic exploitation, I have no idea why abortion should be secondary for economic reasons when everyone is exploited economically through the tax codes and for young people the debt and deficit can not be mitigated with liberal abortion laws but with more and more contributing to society.
fourdeucer on March 12, 2010 at 11:24 AM
Most liberals think science only happens at publicly funded universities.
Count to 10 on March 12, 2010 at 11:28 AM
My mistake. I didn’t catch that part of what Ed wrote. Carry on.
Count to 10 on March 12, 2010 at 11:30 AM
The point, you have missed it.
Let me put it in less abstract terms: even a total reversal of Roe V. Wade and a nationwide ban on non-medical abortions will amount to jack squat if we’re all standing around in unemployment lines.
Tech jobs are almost totally gone, the national debt is reaching a level where a national bankruptcy declaration may be necessary, citizenship for 30 million border-jumping fleabags is in the works…I could go on for pages with a list of economic woes that we’re facing. I forget just who said it, but the phrase “you still have to pay rent for if your house is on the moral high ground” is pretty applicable.
Dark-Star on March 12, 2010 at 11:32 AM
Not so. When the unborn are granted legal personhood, Roe v Wade is dead, done, kaput. Petition drives going on in several states now. http://www.personhoodusa.com/
docdave on March 12, 2010 at 11:36 AM
No, and I highly doubt that Ed thinks so. I believe his point is that the economic damage in higher taxes and poorer health service with ObamaCare would be felt near constantly by all young people, whereas an abortion controversy is felt only by a few people for a short time. Very intensely, to be sure, but not the constant drip drip drip that people would feel for the economic damage. Hence, IMHO, the political damage would be more serious due to the economic issues rather than a moral issue such as abortion. You might suppose that one’s position on a major life issue such as abortion should be paramount in one’s political choices, but most people do not actually vote that way — for example, Hispanics are both overwhelmingly pro-life and overwhelmingly Democratic.
jwolf on March 12, 2010 at 11:37 AM
A Constitutional Amendment can not be overturned by the courts. Not likely to happen but Roe v. Wade is not unchangeable.
Holger on March 12, 2010 at 11:37 AM
This is wonderful news.
I love the abortion threads.
OmahaConservative on March 12, 2010 at 11:37 AM
The lib propaganda machine just isn’t working like it used to.
LibTired on March 12, 2010 at 11:42 AM
I would love to see Roe v. Wade defeated in the public. I think it would be more meaningful then a court case. When the word choice is being bandied about it has to be included in every step of a process.
Cindy Munford on March 12, 2010 at 11:43 AM
Perhaps as they get older, frailer, and more dependent upon others for their health and well-being, they’re finally (if not simply selfishly) beginning to have a better appreciation for the value of life.
Midas on March 12, 2010 at 11:45 AM
There are still lots of tech jobs; what area are you in?
As to Roe, precedent doesn’t matter, only the composition of the court. If the court really cared about precedent, a handful of states would still have their sodomy laws.
TimTebowSavesAmerica on March 12, 2010 at 11:46 AM
NE.
I should add that I don’t count the low-level “screen-sitter” positions as actually tech jobs, more like glorified secretary work IMO. But they’d still beat unemployment.
Dark-Star on March 12, 2010 at 11:50 AM
My son turns 18 in May and is chomping at the bit to vote in November. Oh, and he is far the right of me…hell, he is to the right of Atilla the Hun.
Elizabetty on March 12, 2010 at 11:51 AM
But why is there any kind of trade-off? In the slavery days, cheap labor in the cotton fields built prosperity. Is that the case with abortion, that it will cure unemployment?
Well, no. There’s a trade-off because a certain faction of the GOP would like to wield power to oppose the Democrats on economic issues, while supporting them on social issues. Let’s be clear, if the New GOP wins, they’ll try to fix unemployment, and then do nothing on abortion. Money is more important to them than saving babies. They feel the problem in 2005-2006 was that voters felt some commitment had been made, and they want to win without those commitments.
The answer to this false choice is to dynamite that faction of the GOP.
Chris_Balsz on March 12, 2010 at 11:51 AM
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Thursday, April 1st at 5:00pm
Lake Zorinski Park – Shelter #5
3808 South 156th St. Omaha, NE
(Just south of West Center Road)
yoda on March 12, 2010 at 11:56 AM
I’m not surprised. Living in a small town, I’ve seen/heard (no secret is safe in small towns) of lots of pregnant teens/college kids over the past two decades; not one single time did they result to abortion. Not one.
There were those 17 teens from Glouchster (?) who all got preggy at the same time as well as celeb teens who all chose to keep their babies.
TN Mom on March 12, 2010 at 11:58 AM
I don’t know your background, but there’s no shortage of software/web development positions. I know a guy who graduated from RPI and looking for a job in NYC. He’s having some difficulty, but if you can’t land that perfect position, there’s tons of good ones out there still.
TimTebowSavesAmerica on March 12, 2010 at 12:03 PM
Yep. From my college days I remember even non-Christians such as Wiccans, Egyptologists, Hellenics and others opposed Abortion and thought it immoral.
Holger on March 12, 2010 at 12:03 PM
Academia is failing! The MSM is failing! Planned Parenthood/NOW is failing! Young people are voicing their own opinions!
Quick! Propaganda stimulus money now!
darwin on March 12, 2010 at 12:04 PM
Must be interesting growing up in a generation missing brothers, sisters and best friends that were killed by their own mothers before you had a chance to meet them. Knowing that your parents would have killed you too if they had not been “ready” to have you. And then they spend your childhood telling you how wonderful and special and important your are, making sure you have great self esteem. I wonder what that does to a kids head if they take the time to think about it.
29Victor on March 12, 2010 at 12:04 PM
So you’re saying the old folks who said “no way, no how” back in the 70′s are the same old folks who say “well maybe” today?
Here’s an idea that would explain the difference in poll results: The BOOMERS are the old people today. The BOOMERS are the single largest act the same, want the same, vote the same demographic this country has ever seen. The BOOMERS want their healthcare and all of us will forced to pay for it.
Blacksmith8 on March 12, 2010 at 12:05 PM
“Younger voters trending anti-abortion”
no
Younger voters trending pro-life
There, fixed it for you, Ed. =)
clark smith on March 12, 2010 at 12:05 PM
I never really thought of it that way. What an unnerving thought that would be for a child whose parents had an abortion prior to them….
+1,000,000
KinleyArdal on March 12, 2010 at 12:10 PM
I think a huge factor in this is the almost total disappearance of any stigma associated with teen or unwed pregnancy. In the ’80s many teen girls would have abortions to keep everyone from finding out that they got themselves pregnant. Now it’s not seen as a big deal, so they one of their primary motivations for supporting abortion rights has been eliminated.
Is that good or bad? Well, we believe any baby is better off living than dying, so it’s good in that respect. But there are so many babies being born today into circumstances that don’t look anything like what you and I would call a family . . . I don’t know what you do about that. Obviously, they wouldn’t be better off aborted, but they’re facing some real obstacles in life.
calabrese on March 12, 2010 at 12:15 PM
Only in high school. By the time they start working and raising a family of their own, most of them come back.
MarkTheGreat on March 12, 2010 at 12:17 PM
I said more often than not, not always.
MarkTheGreat on March 12, 2010 at 12:18 PM
Science states conclusively that a new, human life begins at conception. The old pro-abortion lie that “it’s just a blob of cells” doesn’t have any weight.
Vera on March 12, 2010 at 12:18 PM
Vic,
Stop reading my mind. I had typed nearly a word for word comment, then scroll checked the comments to see if I was duplicating another comment.
“Why don’t you support abortion rights?”
“I don’t have a brother because of abortion”
I don’t care how callous a person is; there is no counter to that answer.
BobMbx on March 12, 2010 at 12:19 PM
The older you get, the smarter your parents become.
BobMbx on March 12, 2010 at 12:21 PM
Sadly, I’ve seen some super pro-abortion activists claim that the abortion of a sibling was a good thing because it made their parents happy. Sick and twisted.
Vera on March 12, 2010 at 12:21 PM
My employer has over 200 openings for software and electrical engineers. You just have to be willing to move to a small town to get them.
MarkTheGreat on March 12, 2010 at 12:21 PM
Small towns are best anyhow!
KinleyArdal on March 12, 2010 at 12:23 PM
It’s happening anyway, due to the Darwinian feature of “natural selection”. Animals who eat their babies aren’t as fecund as their peers who don’t.
unclesmrgol on March 12, 2010 at 12:24 PM
Every church that I know of has support groups for teen parents.
MarkTheGreat on March 12, 2010 at 12:24 PM
Good luck to your boss — it’s hard to find people who simultaneously understand both software and hardware….
unclesmrgol on March 12, 2010 at 12:26 PM
Agreed, unfortunately, many don’t agree.
On the other hand, if all those people moved to small towns, then they wouldn’t be small anymore.
MarkTheGreat on March 12, 2010 at 12:27 PM
And pro-slavery groups used to say that blacks liked being slaves. They were taken care of, had a place to live, guaranteed employment….
People don’t change, they just find different dis-empowered groups to exploit.
29Victor on March 12, 2010 at 12:27 PM
“…for young people, abortion should be a secondary consideration to the economic exploitation they will experience from the individual mandate.”
Most of Morissey’s post is pretty good, but this line ruined it. If abortion is child-killing, how can it possibly be “a secondary consideration” to economic exploitation that doesn’t involve similar loss of life?
Gaunilon on March 12, 2010 at 12:28 PM
Didn’t mean to imply that they had to know both. We have over 200 openings. Some for software, some for hardware.
For those of us who do understand both, it just makes it easier to get the good jobs.
MarkTheGreat on March 12, 2010 at 12:28 PM
Having murder on your conscience the rest of your life is not a good alternative.
docdave on March 12, 2010 at 12:29 PM
Not to support slavery. But most slaves, after being emancipated, stayed and worked on the farms where they had once been slaves. When told that would need last names, many of them adopted the names of the family that owned the farms.
MarkTheGreat on March 12, 2010 at 12:30 PM
Touche.
KinleyArdal on March 12, 2010 at 12:30 PM
Since approximately 47 percent –almost half– of American women have killed one or more of their babies by abortion,I think it will take an enormous amount of remorse and soul-searching to make our country truly pro-life again. Most women who abort their babies don’t want to admit to themselves (much less other people) the terrible reality of what they’ve done, and so they remain determined to believe the lies that the Planned Parenthood folks spread. How many mothers are willing to tell their children that they killed one (or more) of their siblings?
Almost all abortions — 95 percent — are committed as a means of birth control or to kill an unplanned baby. Only about 1 percent are aborted because of rape or incest; 1 percent because of fetal abnormalities; and 3 percent because of the mother’s health problems (data from the Alan Guttmacher Institute). Abortion is now the most common invasive medical procedure.
I’m always glad to read that the tide may be turning, but the millions of mothers and fathers who are responsible for their babies’ deaths may need more time to repent. Maybe some day.
KyMouse on March 12, 2010 at 12:31 PM
Well, it’s nice to know I’m not the only parent who raised a “right-thinking” offspring.
oldleprechaun on March 12, 2010 at 12:33 PM
abortion is probably one area where a teens views on a subject are most likely to be shaped by their family’s values.
If a child is taught that abortion is murdering an unborn baby they will be pro-life.
If the first time the here about abortion they are being told about some poor woman being forced to give birth when she doesn’t want a baby they are much more likely to be anti-life.
That first framing of the issue is hard to shake.
darcee on March 12, 2010 at 12:37 PM
Let us say you can end abortion or the planned Mass economic enslavement of the people to Government, but you cannot end both abortion and Mass Economic Enslavement.
So in other words you can end abortion but everyone becomes slaves to Government or you can abort babies but economic enslavement doesn’t happen.
For my part:
I find the entire idea of bring a human life into this world that would be from the start nothing more than a slave for government masters to be an act of cruelty and aborting it in the womb an act of kindness.
Holger on March 12, 2010 at 12:38 PM
You must work for a pretty big firm. You also have a zillion startups, including a great amount that are funded. If you know software, there’s no excuse even in this economy. Outside of tech, medical, everything else is touch, e.g. law, business, manufacturing, construction, etc.
TimTebowSavesAmerica on March 12, 2010 at 12:42 PM
True, many did, but that doesn’t mean that they liked being slaves, it means that they didn’t know any other way to live.
29Victor on March 12, 2010 at 12:43 PM
First of all this is a false dichotomy. Secondly, the life is already in the world at conception. All abortion does is kill it. If we take your logic to its conclusion, we should all just kill ourselves and our families instead of work for better economic conditions.
Your arguement seems based mostly on Utilitarianism, which is frankly a debunked and illogical ethical system.
Vera on March 12, 2010 at 12:46 PM
Truthfully, I think this may be because birth control options for women are much more open then they used to be. Young girls don’t have the embarrassment that our generation did in seeking out birth control because it’s common place for them to talk more openly about it than it was when we were that age. Therefore, these young women are more in tune with the idea that pregnancy responsibility starts before conception, not just after conception. I can remember being embarrassed to ask my Dr. for BC info when I was still single. He didn’t seem embarrassed by it but I certainly was. It’s a stigma that maybe this new generation of women doesn’t have to deal with.
Shiny_Tiara on March 12, 2010 at 12:47 PM
You can renovate a house, but it takes some serious undermining to destroy a solid foundation.
Piercings, ugly clothes, and awful music might annoy parents for a while, but most keep their basic understanding of right and wrong.
Laura in Maryland on March 12, 2010 at 12:48 PM
Some of us are doing our dang-dest to raise our children properly, by golly!
If I’m not mistaken, the picture is of Doug Giles’ youngest, Regis Giles (the great Huntress!!)
SouthernPride on March 12, 2010 at 12:55 PM
That is not Economic Slavery, you are working for yourself or your family’s well being, to improve your life.
By Slavery I mean someone owning you and the fruits of your labor, which is what Socialism is, only it is the collective instead of an individual.
And answer the question, which is worse, allowing abortion or enslaving everyone to the dictates of the ‘collective’? One victimizes one person and is an individual choice to perpetuate the act, the other takes all choice away from all individuals and victimizes everyone.
Holger on March 12, 2010 at 1:01 PM
It is abundantly clear to me that unwanted children don’t become social problems and we should have all the 11 year olds get pregnant and have the babies.
I know of a school teacher in the DC system with one in her class.
The movie Blindside was wonderful; cleaning up after the other 60 million irresponsible people in this country is a bit of a problem.
IlikedAUH2O on March 12, 2010 at 1:02 PM
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