Videos: Pelosi pledges to pass the Senate bill

posted at 2:20 pm on March 12, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Greg Hengler clips the Pelosi press conference from earlier today, in which she acknowledges now that the parliamentary rulings yesterday on ObamaCare means that the Senate bill has to get passed by the House and signed into law before the Senate can start amending it through reconciliation. Pelosi also acknowledges that the only fixes that can get addressed in that manner are those within narrow budgetary parameters. Pelosi insists that the Senate bill will get passed by her caucus. Daniel Foster gets this key moment transcribed at The Corner:

“The bills that have passed, ours with 220 in the House, theirs with 60 in the Senate, we’ll be acting upon the Senate bill with changes that were in the House bill reflected in the reconciliation. So in order to have the Senate bill be the basis and build upon it with the reconciliation, you have to pass the Senate bill, or else you’re talking about starting from scratch. So we will pass the Senate bill. Once we pass it, the President signs it or doesn’t, it’s – people would rather he waited until the Senate acted, but the Senate Parliamentarian, as you have said, said in order for them to do a reconciliation based on the Senate bill, it must be signed by the President.”

The “people” that would rather see Obama hold off on signing the Senate bill are the same people who don’t trust the Senate or the President to revisit the poisoned well of ObamaCare over the springtime. Does Pelosi have enough votes to carry the bill to victory? Perhaps, but listen to the sad eulogy she gives the public option, as well as the cheerleading strategy of “you don’t know how great this bill is yet” that flopped earlier this week. It sounds as though she’s trying to convince both moderates and progressives to jump aboard the Titanic by describing the pretty deckchairs as the ship is sinking.


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Pelozilla, what part of WE DON’T WANT YOUR STINKING HEALTHCARE OVERHAUL? don’t you and your Democratic cronies not understand?

Leave the damned healthcare system alone and concentrate on the economy and the jobs situation, which in case you haven’t noticed lately are both in the toilet!

Concentrate on that, or come November, We The People will replace you all with someone who will!

pilamaye

They DO understand. They just don’t care.
They HAVE noticed. They just don’t care.
They KNOW they can be replaced. They just don’t care.
They don’t care because after this thing is passed, it won’t MATTER. It won’t BE repealed.

Will we wake up one morning in the USSA? Yup. Youbetcha. And Pelosi et al have been promised a piece of the Socialist pie, so they will go along. Or they have been promised that they will be left alone, and they have gone along.

Fait accompli, brothers and sisters. It’s a done deal, and all the screaming in the world won’t stop it.

Will the country collapse because of all this? I’d bet on it. And there will be someone waiting in the wings to pick up the pieces. I’d bet on THAT, too.

Fait accompli.

And the only way out of it is the hard way: through it. Hide and watch.

MBuck on March 12, 2010 at 3:09 PM

How did that woman get where she is?

davidk on March 12, 2010 at 2:25 PM

The God Damned Devil.

uknowmorethanme on March 12, 2010 at 3:10 PM

Mary, get out of my head…and if you want to stay, at least bring your own Jager. :)
The DC Madam.

*pukes*

HornetSting on March 12, 2010 at 2:58 PM

Here, have this Jagermeister champagne cocktail to settle your stomach. Actually, you’ll still puke, but you won’t mind it so much. :-)

Mary in LA on March 12, 2010 at 3:11 PM

Meanwhile the lefty MSNBC propagandist, Andrea Mitchell to Congressman Elijah Cummings (D-Maryland):
“this is really all or nothing for the sense of his power, his legacy, he’s invested so much in this, in this first year. You’ve got to get this for him.”
Elijah then says, “Andrea I agree with you a million percent.”

How does that grab ya Howell Raines?

redridinghood on March 12, 2010 at 3:13 PM

I repeat myself: the 2nd Amendment.

Onager on March 12, 2010 at 2:41 PM
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+1

fossten on March 12, 2010 at 3:16 PM

The great Republic we once knew is gone . . .
rplat on March 12, 2010 at 3:06 PM

At least we have history books and old movies to show our kids of what they missed.
So, who’s going to sew the new flag without the 50 stars and replace it with one big star? And the colors will have to change as well.

Electrongod on March 12, 2010 at 3:17 PM

2016 USSA: A man goes into get a new car, he has to pay up front and wait for years to get his GRAY car, Hey if you don’t like gray go to Chrysler HAHAHAH! Anyway the guy goes in and pays the price up front and asks when he is going to get his car. The SEIU salesman calls into the scheduling department AFL-CIO department head says it will be there in 5 years. So the SEIU salesman tells the guy it will be delivered in 5 years. The buyer asks if that will be in the morning or the afternoon? This is the highlight of the day the last of his work life (he’s turning 42 that day) to receive his 130% of salary pension and laughs so hard he almost pees his pants. He says “My fellow citizen, it’s 5 years from now. What difference could it make?” The buyer replies “Well, I have an appointment with a heart specialist in the morning.”

Rim-fing-shot.

jukin on March 12, 2010 at 3:19 PM

I guess Schoolhouse Rock will have to emend their “I’m just a Bill from Captial hill” cartoon. I was mislead when I was a kid.

Electrongod on March 12, 2010 at 2:49 PM
Yeah the whole hanging around Capitol Hill until the bribing is over needs to be added. Perhaps Congress can fill the time waiting with tickle fights and Massa massages.

highhopes on March 12, 2010 at 2:57 PM

Sounds like something ripe for a youtube parody.

Midas on March 12, 2010 at 3:20 PM

How did that woman get where she is?

davidk on March 12, 2010 at 2:25 PM

I invite you to peruse the files at http://www.zombietime.com .

It is chock-full-O the folks who put and keep her in office.

WARNING: Zombie is NSFW. Zombie is mostly a photo-journalist, and only reports and takes photographs of what actually happens in the streets of Pelosi’s district.

It is not gratuitous or salacious, but it is revolting. If you have never been there, prepare yourself for the twilight zone. You won’t believe it.

BobMbx on March 12, 2010 at 3:20 PM

The great Republic we once knew is gone . . .
rplat on March 12, 2010 at 3:06 PM

At least we have history books and old movies to show our kids of what they missed.

Electrongod on March 12, 2010 at 3:17 PM

Oh no you don’t, comrade – those were outlawed and destroyed by executive order sometime in 2011.

Midas on March 12, 2010 at 3:22 PM

Ben Nelson got booed at a Pizza place and it scarred him for life.

We should learn this lesson and throw eggs, boo, harass or do whatever it takes( within the confines of the law, or at worst misdemeanor charges) to make these people feel the pain and shame them into not moving forward or forever make their lives just as miserable as they are about to make ours.

They are weak. Show them force of any kind and they will crumble. Just my two cents.

javamartini on March 12, 2010 at 3:23 PM

They can pry my DVD copy of Yankee Doodle Dandee from my cold, dead hands….

MBuck on March 12, 2010 at 3:23 PM

Ace is reporting that Pelosi is going ahead with the Slaughter Strategy. These a**wipes aren’t even going to vote for this bill. Unbelievable.

joejm65 on March 12, 2010 at 3:24 PM

Oh no you don’t, comrade – those were outlawed and destroyed by executive order sometime in 2011.

Midas on March 12, 2010 at 3:22 PM

Todays date: March 12, 01 HC

[HC = HopenChange]

BobMbx on March 12, 2010 at 3:25 PM

Ben Nelson got booed at a Pizza place and it scarred him for life.

We should learn this lesson and throw eggs, boo, harass or do whatever it takes( within the confines of the law, or at worst misdemeanor charges) to make these people feel the pain and shame them into not moving forward or forever make their lives just as miserable as they are about to make ours.

They are weak. Show them force of any kind and they will crumble. Just my two cents.

javamartini on March 12, 2010 at 3:23 PM

Bring back tarring and feathering!

fossten on March 12, 2010 at 3:25 PM

Once again, decorum demands that I cannot say the truly horrible things I’m thinking about this woman right now.

Midas on March 12, 2010 at 2:24 PM

I hear you Midas… I consider this pig to be an enemy of the United States of America. And as such, I have no qualms whatsover about my true feelings toward her, but I won’t verbalize them here.

D2Boston on March 12, 2010 at 3:28 PM

Stupak:

What are Democratic leaders saying? “If you pass the Stupak amendment, more children will be born, and therefore it will cost us millions more. That’s one of the arguments I’ve been hearing,” Stupak says. “Money is their hang-up. Is this how we now value life in America? If money is the issue — come on, we can find room in the budget. This is life we’re talking about.”

If Obamacare passes, Stupak says, it could signal the end of any meaningful role for pro-life Democrats within their own party. “It would be very, very hard for someone who is a right-to-life Democrat to run for office,” he says. “I won’t leave the party. I’m more comfortable here and still believe in a role within it for the right-to-life cause, but this bill will make being a pro-life Democrat much more difficult. They don’t even want to debate this issue. We’ll probably have to wait until the Republicans take back the majority to fix this.”

Death panels for the unborn.

And one can only imagine what the Dem leadership thinks of the handicapped and elderly.

Wethal on March 12, 2010 at 3:37 PM

Above post was from NRO Corner.

Wethal on March 12, 2010 at 3:38 PM

Ace is reporting that Pelosi is going ahead with the Slaughter Strategy. These a**wipes aren’t even going to vote for this bill. Unbelievable.

joejm65 on March 12, 2010 at 3:24 PM

Patently, brazenly, unconstitutional. This cannot be allowed to stand.

Midas on March 12, 2010 at 3:42 PM

Ace is reporting that Pelosi is going ahead with the Slaughter Strategy. These a**wipes aren’t even going to vote for this bill. Unbelievable.

joejm65 on March 12, 2010 at 3:24 PM

I saw that. I guess they figure if that’s the only way to get it passed, then do it.

It may or may not face a court challenge, but they must figure a crap shoot is better than failing to pass anything at all.

Asher on March 12, 2010 at 3:42 PM

It’s crazy time in Washington. Wake me when it’s over.

PattyJ on March 12, 2010 at 3:44 PM

Based on the comments I’m reading hear – the anger of which I certainly share – my contention that if the Progressives keep pushing we’re likely to see a repeat of the French Revolution is becoming better founded every day.

Still, I would prefer something more along the lines of the Glorious Revolution of 1688, or better still something like America, circa 1789.

JDPerren on March 12, 2010 at 3:46 PM

And one can only imagine what the Dem leadership thinks of the handicapped and elderly.

Wethal on March 12, 2010 at 3:37 PM

Don’t forget the chronically ill.

LibTired on March 12, 2010 at 3:47 PM

Health bill’s prospects abruptly improve; Obama delays trip

What exactly warrants this headline, unless the AP are on the same crack Pelosi is on?

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2010 at 3:47 PM

Why aren’t any members of the GOP shouting from the rooftops that a bill that “saves” $118B over a decade by taxing for 40% of that time with no output is a scam that will NOT save money? I hear them saying we can’t afford it, but they never come right out and give the soundbite that sums it up with facts.

RachDubya on March 12, 2010 at 3:50 PM

God help us (and them) if they pass this using these un-Constitutional shenanigans.

Midas on March 12, 2010 at 3:53 PM

How does one go about testing the Constitutionality of the Slaughter Strategy?

ROCnPhilly on March 12, 2010 at 3:59 PM

I don’t believe I’ll hold my breath waiting for SCOTUS to weigh in on the issue.

MBuck on March 12, 2010 at 4:00 PM

This is the House Democrats’ worst nightmare. That means they can’t pass and hold the Senate health bill pending clearance by the Senate of a reconciliation bill making fixes. If the House votes to approve the Senate bill, that’s it. The Senate bill will become law, signing ceremony and all. Congress may or may not follow through by amending it later. In the meantime, House members will have voted to approve the Cornhusker Kickback, the Louisiana Purchase, the special treatment for Florida seniors, countless special deals for hospitals, a new tax on many collectively bargained health plans, not to mention a massive tax increase, Medicare cut, and job-killing mandates.

In short, if congressional Democrats are bound and determined to pass a sweeping government takeover of American health care on an entirely partisan basis, their only way forward is for the House to accept without change the highly unpopular Senate bill, and suffer the consequences. That will be a very bitter pill for many rank-and-file members to swallow.

There is an alternative, however. The White House and House and Senate Democrats could abandon reconciliation, fix the problems in the Senate bill, and then work with some Senate Republicans to produce a plan that can get a supermajority in the Senate. No doubt it would require more than cosmetic changes to the government-heavy plan Democrats have drafted. But it is not impossible. It has been done countless times before on major legislation. And it is certainly what the public is telling their elected leaders they want to see happen.

If, however, the Democrats continue to insist it’s their bill or no bill, the odds are increasing by the day that it will be no bill.

May the latter be the miracle this land needs.

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2010 at 4:04 PM

How does one go about testing the Constitutionality of the Slaughter Strategy?
ROCnPhilly on March 12, 2010 at 3:59 PM

It has to pass, get signed by the President, and then someone has to fast-track their case against it to the SCOTUS. Which WILL happen if the Slaughter Strategy is employed. COngress will go to war with itself.

joejm65 on March 12, 2010 at 4:06 PM

Health bill’s prospects abruptly improve; Obama delays trip
Schadenfreude on March 12, 2010 at 3:47 PM

The AP not so optimistic any more – they just chanced the title of same article to this

Democrats pare differences over health overhaul

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2010 at 4:07 PM

“changed” noc “chanced”

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2010 at 4:08 PM

The easiest solution is to get out and vote in November to take back control of the House of Representatives. We need to retire her as Speaker of the House. 4 years was WAY too much time in that position for this dimwit.

Sultry Beauty on March 12, 2010 at 4:09 PM

Pelosi’s latest psychotic break has her talking of simply “deeming” it a law an poof! it becomes law! Please do it nancy, and please sign it Obama. that’s violation of your oath of office and an impeacheacable offense. You’ll be up on charges so fast your head will spin. Any elected official that includes themselves in your hairbrain scam will alos be impeached

Niteowl45 on March 12, 2010 at 4:09 PM

Something’s wrong with her.

Alana on March 12, 2010 at 4:09 PM

The easiest solution is to get out and vote in November to take back control of the House of Representatives. We need to retire her as Speaker of the House. 4 years was WAY too much time in that position for this dimwit.

Sultry Beauty on March 12, 2010 at 4:09 PM

Actually, the easiest solution is for gun sales and gun permits to rise by 100% this weekend.

ROCnPhilly on March 12, 2010 at 4:12 PM

Actually, the easiest solution is for gun sales and gun permits to rise by 100% this weekend.

ROCnPhilly on March 12, 2010 at 4:12 PM

I’m in. What should I buy? I have about $300 to spend.

Mary in LA on March 12, 2010 at 4:15 PM

I should add that I think I would prefer a shotgun to a pistol or revolver. I’m not a bad shot with a handgun, but I think I’d like something more multi-purpose.

Mary in LA on March 12, 2010 at 4:17 PM

They clearly don’t have the votes..why is everyone all hysterical?

BrianVII on March 12, 2010 at 4:21 PM

I’m in. What should I buy? I have about $300 to spend.

Mary in LA on March 12, 2010 at 4:15 PM

Mossberg # 3Model 500 Persuader Pump Action Shotgun 50521, 12 Gauge, 18.5″, 3″ Chamber, 6 Shot Parkerized, Cylinder Bore Barrel, Pistol Grip Kit, No Sling Studs

And enough $$ left over for a couple of boxes of shells.
Perfect for “home defense”. ;)

ROCnPhilly on March 12, 2010 at 4:25 PM

AP just changed title back to

Health bill’s prospects abruptly improve; Obama delays trip

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2010 at 4:25 PM

ROCnPhilly, thanks! I like the sound of that. :-)

Mary in LA on March 12, 2010 at 4:30 PM

Mary in LA on March 12, 2010 at 4:30 PM

Better try one first. Lots of kick, but if you hit your target, it’ll go down and stay down.

If you’re serious about a shotgun, you might want to try a good 20 gauge. Less kick means greater control and less bruising.

ROCnPhilly on March 12, 2010 at 4:37 PM

Mossberg # 3Model 500 Persuader Pump Action Shotgun 50521, 12 Gauge, 18.5″, 3″ Chamber, 6 Shot Parkerized, Cylinder Bore Barrel, Pistol Grip Kit, No Sling Studs

Dude…sweet!

bernzright777 on March 12, 2010 at 4:44 PM

…you might want to try a good 20 gauge. Less kick means greater control and less bruising.

ROCnPhilly on March 12, 2010 at 4:37 PM

Makes sense to me. I tried a 16ga a couple of months ago — my first time with a shotgun — and the kick was impressive. Maybe the 20ga would a better bet.

Mary in LA on March 12, 2010 at 4:45 PM

Actually it was one month ago. Hubby and I celebrated Valentine’s Day at the range. It was very romantic. :-)

Mary in LA on March 12, 2010 at 4:46 PM

When you see Nancy Pelosi calling for the vote then you know that we are doomed. She doesn’t have the votes. No matter how she tries she doesn’t have them. Anything said between now and the vote means nothing. She means nothing. If they pass with with the Slaughter solution or any other means of trickery the more they loose in November and the easier it is to undo it. She does not have the will of the people.
You people are depressing me.

BetseyRoss on March 12, 2010 at 4:47 PM

Mossberg # 3Model 500 Persuader Pump Action Shotgun 50521, 12 Gauge, 18.5″, 3″ Chamber, 6 Shot Parkerized, Cylinder Bore Barrel, Pistol Grip Kit, No Sling Studs

And enough $$ left over for a couple of boxes of shells.
Perfect for “home defense”. ;)

ROCnPhilly on March 12, 2010 at 4:25 PM

How about this?

belad on March 12, 2010 at 5:31 PM

***
HI BELAD–5:31 PM.–As an Ex Army draftee–overkill always seemed like a good thing to me. No danger of underkill with your 20mm. anti-tank “solution”.
***
First–send Mary to weight lifter school. And get her a few good anti-hernia belts. And her budget will probably be wiped out after the fifth shot.
***
I saw the Vulcan 20mm anti-aircraft gun in action–manual firing–with tracers–against a Firebee jet drone long ago–from a Hawk Missile site 1 Km. away–at Dona Ana Range–near White Sands Missile Range. The drone had a smoke trail to help the camera men filming the firings, and to help the gunner.
***
The first burst was fired at about a 1 mile range–the desert floor boiled with dust from the impacting rounds under the fast moving 500 ft. high target–no hits.
***
The second burst was fired at about a half mile range–a few flashes were observed on the target–which kept flying–with a thin leaking fuel trail mist behind it–still firing too low.
***
The third burst was fired at about a quarter mile range–the drone was centered in the pattern. Instant black / orange fireball, lots of chunks falling almost straight down. And a big smoke cloud and fire when it hit the desert. The gun didn’t sound like a cannon firing–it was more like a chain saw sound due to the thousands of round per minute firing rate.
***
Rocketman
***

rocketman on March 12, 2010 at 6:22 PM

rocketman on March 12, 2010 at 6:22 PM

I had to bore-sight and wet-fire the Vulcan on the A-7D when I was in the AF. We bore-sighted it on a 1000″ range and then wet-fired on 1000 yard range. Let me tell you, when you are up close(within 50 ft) the sound is deafening and the ground rumbles. They fired off about 150 rounds in two different bursts and the target disappeared. Anything on the receiving end is in deep do-do.

belad on March 12, 2010 at 9:04 PM

So, Pelosi and her bunch are putting on the rubber gloves and getting out the KY jelly.
They’ll do anything to make it fit.

Cybergeezer on March 13, 2010 at 8:28 AM

EVERYONE THAT HAS THE MEANS HAS TO GET TO D.C. FOR THE DEMONSTRATION ON MARCH THE 16TH!

Cybergeezer on March 13, 2010 at 8:30 AM

Nanny Phulofit wants Obama Care passed fast because her facial expressions and personal actions are indicating she is ready to fall apart without it.

Congress is totally toxic today and the those of U.S. who know what is necessary to return U.S. to the appropriate balance.

MSGTAS on March 13, 2010 at 9:29 AM

DNC:
DESTROY THE NATION THROUGH CONGRESS!

Cybergeezer on March 13, 2010 at 12:02 PM

This is no longer a Health Care issue. It is becoming a way to circumvent our Constitutional process now with all of the rules passings and closed door sessions and so on. What is it about it that the Dems want this passed so desperately? This is a major waster of our time and money without a doubt.

johnnyU on March 13, 2010 at 12:39 PM

I am sitting and waiting for the criminal trials to start once this falls on its face.

johnnyU on March 13, 2010 at 12:40 PM

johnnyU on March 13, 2010 at 12:40 PM

Whatever happens, lawyers are loving it.
Obama is supposed to be a lawyer, but, there’s no documentation to that effect either.

Cybergeezer on March 13, 2010 at 4:19 PM

I agree, 2nd Amendment will save this nation.

Viper1 on March 15, 2010 at 5:39 AM

I bet she does not cite the pledge of allegiance either she mouths the words (like Justice Alito mouthed did during the recent State of the Union Address).

MSGTAS on March 15, 2010 at 10:28 AM

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