Obamateurism of the Day

posted at 8:05 am on March 12, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Republicans have slammed Barack Obama and Democrats on their ObamaCare bill, and apparently Obama felt the need to return fire on his Time for Talk is Over Talking Tour this week. In doing so, Obama may have inadvertently revealed why he has trouble managing the deficit — he can’t do math. TPM has the clip from his speech at Arcadia University, in which he wonders aloud why Republicans didn’t tackle health-care reform … during their ten years in power (via Jean R):

He also stressed that “we’ve been talking about health care for nearly a century,” and “we have failed to meet this challenge during periods of prosperity, and also during periods of decline.”

“If not now when? If not us, who?” Obama asked.

The President also took the opportunity to hit Republicans: “I got all my Republican colleagues out there saying ‘No, no, no, we want to focus on things like costs.’ You had 10 years. What happened? What were you doing?”

Ten years? Republicans held the Congress and the White House simultaneously for six years, 2001-6 inclusive — and for over a year at the beginning of that period, Democrats controlled the Senate.  Republicans controlled the House for twelve years, but six of those were when Bill Clinton was President, and they only won the House after Clinton tried jamming a massive government takeover of the health-care system down the throats of Americans, who clearly didn’t want one.  Democrats controlled Congress for the last four years, but they didn’t seem terribly keen on suggesting that they work with George Bush on the problem during the last two years of his administration, either.

Of course, this has something in common with Obamacare — where taxes get imposed for the first ten years, but benefits only get delivered in the final six in order to manipulate the price tag for its first decade.  Who knew that ObaMath could apply so easily elsewhere?

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hmm…so he sucks at history, cant do math, could do with a refresher course in English. No wonder his grades have been hidden.

becki51758 on March 12, 2010 at 8:09 AM

Sadly, this isn’t an Obamateurism, it’s the democrat’s philosophy. Say lies long enough and people will believe it to be the truth.

behiker on March 12, 2010 at 8:09 AM

2+2=healthcare for everyone!

rightside on March 12, 2010 at 8:09 AM

Six years, ten years, don’t you know it doesn’t matter? History begins and ends with Giggles, after all.

Of course, if BOOOOOOOOOOSH had said that…

crazy_legs on March 12, 2010 at 8:10 AM

I believe this is referred to as FUZZY MATH….invented by the same chap who developed the INTERNET!

SDarchitect on March 12, 2010 at 8:10 AM

Anyone who went to school in these 57 United States knows that it was ten years. /s

Wethal on March 12, 2010 at 8:10 AM

He’s just a big giant lying head.

boomer on March 12, 2010 at 8:12 AM

“If not now when? If not us, who?” Obama asked.

Reagan. Knew. You are not. Some assembly required.

apostic on March 12, 2010 at 8:14 AM

B+ ??

TimBuk3 on March 12, 2010 at 8:15 AM

But, but, but… Odamna be’s the smartestest man whats ever been in the White House. How could he be effin this up so bad?

Crusader Rabbit on March 12, 2010 at 8:15 AM

“We needed 60 votes too!”

Mord on March 12, 2010 at 8:17 AM

Meanwhile,Hopey spends 70% of his time,er,the peoples time,
on DEMONIZING the Republican Party!!

And,Obama has been diddling for 2 years,as he KICKING the
Can down the Road!!

Hopey sure has nerve!!!(sarc).

canopfor on March 12, 2010 at 8:17 AM

At some point this president is going to end up sitting in a dark room in the White House, drinking and smoking 24/7 and pretty much being like the Nixon that Oliver Stone imagined.

myrenovations on March 12, 2010 at 8:19 AM

He also stressed that “we’ve been talking about health care for nearly a century,” and “we have failed to meet this challenge during periods of prosperity, and also during periods of decline.”
“If not now when? If not us, who?” Obama asked.

Hey Mr. President. Please explain why seizing the American healthcare system is such a crisis item.

highhopes on March 12, 2010 at 8:20 AM

I don’t mean to be picky,but I thought Liberals
were in charge for the last 8 years,and they had
SuperMajority!!

canopfor on March 12, 2010 at 8:23 AM

Where does the President get his nose shortened at each day?

yoda on March 12, 2010 at 8:23 AM

“we’ve been talking about health care for nearly a century,”

Really? We have been trying to do this since 1910? Seriously, this man is delusional. He needs professional medical help.

Johnnyreb on March 12, 2010 at 8:23 AM

Remember, this is the same guy who thought he would be president for 10 years.

backwoods conservative on March 12, 2010 at 8:24 AM

Of course, this has something in common with Obamacare — where taxes get imposed for the first ten years, but benefits only get delivered in the final six in order to manipulate the price tag for its first decade.

Pay taxes for 10 years and get benefits for 6 years… is this the liberal idea of “a discount?”

ExpressoBold on March 12, 2010 at 8:25 AM

Can we just start calling it PettyBureaucratCare?

Or SpecialInterestCare?

Or ColossallyExpandedGovernment – HangingLikeALeadWeightOverAllOurHeadsCare?

Edouard on March 12, 2010 at 8:28 AM

There you go again Ed trying to insert facts into the conversation.

How can an Alinsky student and activist move us toward the total collapse we need and deserve if you keep doing that?

/s

conservnut on March 12, 2010 at 8:31 AM

At some point this president is going to end up sitting in a dark room in the White House, drinking and smoking 24/7 and pretty much being like the Nixon that Oliver Stone imagined.

myrenovations on March 12, 2010 at 8:19 AM

myrenovations: Good point,the Liberals are on a crime spree,
and their bribing,black mailing,back door
payoff schemes,and they are doing it almost
in plain sight,and yet,they could give a rats
ass what the America voter thinks!:)

canopfor on March 12, 2010 at 8:33 AM

Actually he may be relying on the metric system, popular in places like Socialist Russia and Venezuela.

pilamaye on March 12, 2010 at 8:34 AM

Wasn’t that what Hendrick Himmler used during WWII? Say the same lie over and over and people begin to believe it? Didn’t work with the GOP at the health round table, but the Obots are happy to believe it.

flytier on March 12, 2010 at 8:34 AM

“we’ve been talking about health care for nearly a century,”

Really? We have been trying to do this since 1910? Seriously, this man is delusional. He needs professional medical help.

Johnnyreb on March 12, 2010 at 8:23 AM

And now for your Beckian moment of truth:
Yes Johnnyreb, the PROGRESSIVES have been talking about health care for nearly a century. I would put it over 100 years, as that’s when Teddy and Woodrow started really messing around with our Republic. The key word in Obooboo’s mouth was “talking”. This has always been, is now, and will always be about control. It’s not about helping indigents, poor, lame, lazy, illegal, and stupid people. They truly are just pawns in the game.
 
Curly had it right, “It’s about ONE thing.”
 
FREEDOM!

Blacksmith8 on March 12, 2010 at 8:35 AM

Err, wasn’t it 4 years? I mean I thought the Pubs were supposed to get control of the senate in 2001 but Jim Jeffords switched so it was a 50/50 split. (And they only got control of the senate in 2003.) Oops I’m wrong I just checked. It was 50/50 before Jeffords switched. After he switched it was 49/50 plus 1 independant (Jeffords) who went democratic in May of 2001. You should update things especially since it means Barry is even more wrong than he first seems:)

Jim Jeffords

Dave_d on March 12, 2010 at 8:35 AM

Of course, this has something in common with Obamacare — where taxes get imposed for the first ten years, but benefits only get delivered in the final six in order to manipulate the price tag for its first decade. Who knew that ObaMath could apply so easily elsewhere?

C’mon Ed, how old fashioned can you get? Don’t you understand “new math”? Bernie Madoff certainly did, to the tune of billions, and look at the “beneifts” his clients received.

Rovin on March 12, 2010 at 8:37 AM

actually the republicans didnt have congress for 6 years, it was 4. jim jeffords switched to independent and caucused w/ the dems giving them a one vote majority.

so that means W was able to pass his first round of tax cuts w/o a republican congress.

chasdal on March 12, 2010 at 8:37 AM

ObaMath

Darn it, Ed, that’s almost as good as putting the faces of missing congress critters on milk cartons!

ladyingray on March 12, 2010 at 8:38 AM

After a few drinks, math ain’t easy for me, either.
If you think they won’t make us pay very dearly for all the conniving, bribing, arm twisting, lying, and shady deals they’ve had to conjure up to get their scam passed through Congress, you have no sense of reality at all.

Cybergeezer on March 12, 2010 at 8:40 AM

Obama’s numbers all tend to be arbitrary and subject to inflation, e.g. his “57 states” blunder. This is just more of the same.

jwolf on March 12, 2010 at 8:42 AM

After demonstrating what they can do to shove this through Congress, you can bet that they will shove it up ours when this crap becomes law.

(I know: I’m paraphrasing. But, it can’t be said loud and long enouigh until this crap is DEAD!)

Cybergeezer on March 12, 2010 at 8:45 AM

Slight O/T:

MSDNC WATCH—Lawrence Francis O’Donnell, Jr. (political analyst for the cable news channel MSNBC): “Not one Republican at the Summit ever told President Obama, “we just can’t afford it” (this healthcare legislation).

(face palm)

Rovin on March 12, 2010 at 8:47 AM

He also stressed that “we’ve been talking about health care for nearly a century,” and “we have failed to meet this challenge during periods of prosperity, and also during periods of decline.”

This display of ignorance boggles the mind.

There are clearly problems in the healthcare delivery system, insurance industry etc. However, medicine is one of the fields that saw unimaginable advances and technology during the period he has referred to.

Somebody needs to sit this guy down with a simple powerpoint display entitled “Medicine in the U.S.: 1910-2010.” Could be informative.

We didn’t even use penicillin in 1910, for crying out loud.

Okay, I’ll stop now.

cs89 on March 12, 2010 at 8:50 AM

Dave_d on March 12, 2010 at 8:35 AM

Thanks Dave_d, I waited and read all of the posts before I commented and you raised the point that I had planned.

thomasaur on March 12, 2010 at 8:51 AM

I remember learning about the great health care debates of 1910 in school. It was an amazing time, with lots of divisions of each side.

The hope was that with government backing all health insurance it would be easier for the rural poor to receive much needed leachings to purify their blood and also to provide lobotomies to those that the government deemed feeble.

Back then people made the “false choice” to take care of themselves. I guess we’re still making the same “wrong headed false choices” to this very day.

Dorvillian on March 12, 2010 at 8:56 AM

WE should contact our Senators in all 57 states and ….

Hey is that right? Dems have 59 votes, Repubs has 41 that equals 100. Does anyone know where the the other 14 senators and House Reps stand on Health Care?

mechkiller_k on March 12, 2010 at 9:04 AM

Dang,ya’ll. He can’t let the truth get in the way of his sales pitch. What are ya’ll thinking?

TXMomof3 on March 12, 2010 at 9:05 AM

affirmative action math.

jbh45 on March 12, 2010 at 9:07 AM

Additional stubborn fact- 1910 life expectancy was about 50. Today, over 75.

A 150% increase in the length of the average lifespan is hardly failure, though it can’t be attributed solely to healthcare.

cs89 on March 12, 2010 at 9:07 AM

http://kclibrary.lonestar.edu/decade10.html

Forgot linky for 1910 data.

cs89 on March 12, 2010 at 9:08 AM

“For over 230 years Republicans have had their chance!”….

Caper29 on March 12, 2010 at 9:12 AM

My guess is that most of the “talking” that went on all those years wasn’t done behind closed doors.

I’m all for health care reform in some manner. Just not the manner this administration wants to force upon us. If they were to go back to the table and cobble out something the American people could get behind, I’d have a lot more favorable opinion of this lot, but I have absolutely no confidence they would even consider doing that. They don’t care about our health care, they care about power.

scalleywag on March 12, 2010 at 9:13 AM

How do you think Obie wan Kabuki and step in it Biden got to 3 million jobs created?

katablog.com on March 12, 2010 at 9:14 AM

Democrats controlled Congress for the last four years, but they didn’t seem terribly keen on suggesting that they work with George Bush on the problem during the last two years of his administration, either.

Exactly!!!

This is why liberals are always having to tell everybody how “smart” they are…..
………..because it doesn’t show.

Baxter Greene on March 12, 2010 at 9:16 AM

Say the same lie over and over and people begin to believe it?
flytier on March 12, 2010 at 8:34 AM

The fundamental problem with this “debate” is that the dissenters are looking at the facts. Obamacare advocates are using anecdotal and erroneous stories to create the mythology of a system in crisis where roving bands of tonsil vultures are dragging strangers off the street for the Medicaid reimbursement and seniors are taking medication intended for use by their pets.

highhopes on March 12, 2010 at 9:19 AM

The amateurism isn’t with his math, but with the fluidity of his lies. He knows what the facts are but counts on most people not bothering to notice, and on getting a pass from the MSM.

ProfessorMiao on March 12, 2010 at 9:28 AM

Democrats controlled Congress for the last four years, but they didn’t seem terribly keen on suggesting that they work with George Bush on the problem during the last two years of his administration, either.

Barack was a Democrat Senator for TWO of those four years. How many healthcare bills did he sponsor during that period?

TN Mom on March 12, 2010 at 9:34 AM

He can do math. He can’t do truth.

Daggett on March 12, 2010 at 9:37 AM

Perhaps “O ” should just post the ” 1984 ” commercial by Apple and remind us all to be good citizens …………
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYecfV3ubP8

ELMO Q on March 12, 2010 at 9:39 AM

I wonder….how high are the taxes on planet Bizzaro? Do they have universal healthcare?

BobMbx on March 12, 2010 at 9:40 AM

Of course you can tell where Obama’s priorities are by his actions……
…..Obama’s “legacy” and “liberal agenda” appear to trump the security of this Nation:

(via Brietbart)

Obama delaying Asia trip from March 18 to March 21 to work on health care.

Mar 12 08:58 AM US/Eastern

WASHINGTON (AP) – Obama delaying Asia trip from March 18 to March 21 to work on health care.

So let me get this straight…..
……Obama continues to surf and play golf in Hawaii after a terrorist tries to blow up a plane over Detroit,thus revealing the system in place to stop such an act had obviously failed.

But he will delay trips to Asia to stay and try to ram a government take over of Health Care down the throats of the American people….who overwhelmingly reject it and want this bill scrapped.

……..Mr. 57 states could care less about the American people…it’s all about him and his “legacy”.

Baxter Greene on March 12, 2010 at 9:44 AM

This is a plan by his racist advisers. They hate blacks and are encouraging Obama down a path of stupidity that feeds the insane beliefs of the racists that blacks are incapable of rational reasoning. Hell, with the self hate the demratf**ks have encouraged in the minority community, the blacks probably will come away believing themselves that they are too inferior to be leaders.

Progressives are the spawn of every evil, malicious, and deviant influence that ever has or ever will exist.

csdeven on March 12, 2010 at 9:47 AM

He can do math. He can’t do truth.

Daggett on March 12, 2010 at 9:37 AM

WINNER!!!

TN Mom on March 12, 2010 at 9:51 AM

Math is racist.

rbj on March 12, 2010 at 9:54 AM

Does anyone know why he targeted insurance companies with health care costs when they have nothing to do with costs other than to lower them by negotiating discounts with providers?

The average pill costs between $3 and $10 each. Why isn’t he targeting drug companies? Could they be financing Democrats?

Why isn’t he targeting malpractice insurance/tort reform? Maybe because trial lawyers finance Democrats?

The man could not care less about health care costs. His only mission is control and power over the lives of Americans.

orlandocajun on March 12, 2010 at 10:07 AM

I guess his speechwriters are starting to get a little lazy….stealing lines from Ronald Reagan just shows how desperate he is…..

I thought he was supposed to be smart, and a “great orator”….I guess if you’re at a 3rd grade level, he is….(apologies to all 3rd graders)…

jehowe2nd on March 12, 2010 at 10:11 AM

They tried. But the Democrats blocked everything they tried.

MarkTheGreat on March 12, 2010 at 10:16 AM

Barry has shown that he’s not really good at history. Either that or he’s been hanging around “Just making shit up” Joe Biden for too long.

GarandFan on March 12, 2010 at 10:27 AM

Of course Clenis led the country through 10 years of prosperity.Bambi isn’t the only Democrap who can’t do math.

DDT on March 12, 2010 at 10:28 AM

All GREAT points, but why didn’t the GOP tackle it in the 6 years or even in one year.

McCain, Grahamnesty, etc.

barnone on March 12, 2010 at 10:45 AM

Math in its pure form doesn’t lie. Obama does. That is why he has such trouble with it. Just look at Obama math as creative math. I am sure his mother did.

BetseyRoss on March 12, 2010 at 10:49 AM

It was ten years in the 57 plus three states…

right2bright on March 12, 2010 at 11:08 AM

You stupid wingnuts, Obama is so much smarter than you that he simultaneously does math in multiple bases at the same time. It just so happened he was thinking in Base 6 at the time (don’t even worry about what that means wingnuts) and is too busy trying to fix the nation after Bush that he forgot to convert it to something you morons could understand.

Alright, enough playing lefty.

Additional stubborn fact- 1910 life expectancy was about 50. Today, over 75.

A 150% increase in the length of the average lifespan is hardly failure, though it can’t be attributed solely to healthcare.

cs89 on March 12, 2010 at 9:07 AM

Actually, little of it comes from health care. Improved health care improves quality of life (ie, not being sick as often, not dealing with a mis-set broken bone for 40 years, not having so many rotten teeth you can’t eat solid food, etc) not so much life expectency. Life expectency is increased by simple sanitation, clean water, and a varied diet. For example, Albania LE – 77 years, Norway – 80 years.

jarodea on March 12, 2010 at 11:14 AM

jarodea on March 12, 2010 at 11:14 AM

The sanitation, etc. is a big part of it.

However, you don’t think getting a stent placed in a 50-year-old with chest pain, taking antibiotics if you have a nasty infection, etc. improves the average life expectancy significantly?

Really?

cs89 on March 12, 2010 at 11:24 AM

This is your president, America.

Barack Obama, who interestingly gets the best treatment in the book—protect those sources!—is not immune. He is smart, “and he not only knew it but wanted to make sure that everyone else knew it.” In meetings with aides, he controlled the conversation by interrupting whoever was talking. He is boastful, gaudily confident. Before his 2004 convention speech, a reporter asked him if he was nervous: “I’m LeBron, baby,” he answers. “I got some game.”

Schadenfreude on March 12, 2010 at 11:32 AM

He can do math. He’s a damn liar.

drjohn on March 12, 2010 at 11:39 AM

The President also took the opportunity to hit Republicans: “I got all my Republican colleagues out there saying ‘No, no, no, we want to focus on things like costs.’ You had 10 years. What happened? What were you doing?”

Maybe passing the Medicare prescription drug benefit!

We can’t pick on his math too much–he’s just rounding the years to one significant digit.

Those stingy, picky Republicans want to focus on things like costs. “You know, it’s only gonna cost, what it’s gonna cost, you know I can’t hear myself here, help me out here, we’ll get all excited now!”

Yeah, let’s get all excited about costs, Mr. TelePrompTer!

Steve Z on March 12, 2010 at 12:01 PM

Pardon the crude analogy, but I’ve really had it with Obama’s obnoxiousness; to me, he’s saying nothing short of:

“Hey, you screw your wife, why are you bitching at me just because I’m raping your daughter?!”

Lockstein13 on March 12, 2010 at 12:39 PM

O.k…. so the Congressional Budget Office scored the bill in October, right? The bill says that we start paying as soon as it becomes law and that we don’t receive benefits until 2014, right? Well, six months down the road, the bill has six months less time that we would be paying into it before we start receiving benefits. Therefore, a new score with six months less lead-pay-in-time would mean that it is a lot less “deficit neutral”. I wonder how the CBO would score the bill if they score it now. And, the longer we go without the bill being made a law, the more un-”deficit neutral” it becomes. At some point, in order to maintain the “deficit neutral” facade, wouldn’t they have to repass the bill with new dates?

Theophile on March 12, 2010 at 12:47 PM

The new “Newspeak” is “Obamaspeak”. New Math? Obamamath. All lies all the time.

Army Brat on March 12, 2010 at 12:52 PM

“If not now when? If not us, who?” Obama asked.

Ok, ever since government decided to stick their nose into the insurance industry…..costs have gone up. Before that….costs were reasonable, and fair. Ever since Democrats became buddies with lawyers…they’ve done nothing to help bring down costs by proposing tort reforms.

Now, even more government intrusion is coming, which is definitely going to mean higher costs, higher taxes. Let’s not forget the fact that we’ll all be paying more out of pocket to insurance, while the wait is on, for insurance.

Obama says thousands die every day because they don’t have insurance, and costs would go down, but by all indications, these are lies…and then we wait years for this program to go into action. Amazing. Just amazing how such an idiot was elected to this high office.

capejasmine on March 12, 2010 at 12:59 PM

If you repeat a lie often enough, liberals and weak uninformed minds will accept it as a truth…

JohnBG on March 12, 2010 at 1:28 PM

Theophile on March 12, 2010 at 12:47 PM

Think paying taxes for ObamaCare retrospectively, back to possibly as 01/01/09.

Think tumbrils and pikes while you’re at it.

ya2daup on March 12, 2010 at 1:58 PM

If not now , when ? How about never ? Is never good for you ?

borntoraisehogs on March 12, 2010 at 2:18 PM

What were Republicans doing [doing most of the Bush Administration when Republicans had the power]?

Possibly…trying to protect the US from a repeat of 9-11…and then trying to fix the Hurricane Katrina disaster…

Conservative in NOVA on March 12, 2010 at 2:32 PM

Ten years? Republicans held the Congress and the White House simultaneously for six years, 2001-6 inclusive — and for over a year at the beginning of that period, Democrats controlled the Senate.

Senate Majority leader Tom Daschle (D) June 2001 – January 2003

That’s like 1 year 6 months

Which, just for the record, includes
The Bush tax cut, Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001
And
Iraq Resolution or the Iraq War Resolution (formally the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002.
That was October 16, 2002

DSchoen on March 12, 2010 at 3:10 PM

Didn’t Obama go to the US Congress in 2004?
Did he offer a Health care reform plane in 2004? 2005? 2006? 2007? 2008?

DSchoen on March 12, 2010 at 3:15 PM

I guess his speechwriters are starting to get a little lazy….stealing lines from Ronald Reagan just shows how desperate he is…..

I thought he was supposed to be smart, and a “great orator”….I guess if you’re at a 3rd grade level, he is….(apologies to all 3rd graders)…

jehowe2nd on March 12, 2010 at 10:11 AM

After putting him on that scale, you need to apologies to the kinder-gardeners as well.

Slowburn on March 12, 2010 at 3:50 PM

Slight O/T:
MSDNC WATCH—Lawrence Francis O’Donnell, Jr. (political analyst for the cable news channel MSNBC): “Not one Republican at the Summit ever told President Obama, “we just can’t afford it” (this healthcare legislation).
(face palm)
Rovin on March 12, 2010 at 8:47 AM

Update Slight O/T:

“Not one Republican at the Summit ever told President Obama”, the sky is blue!

“Not one Republican at the Summit ever told President Obama”, fire is hot!

“Not one Republican at the Summit ever told President Obama,” Ice is cold!

I’m sure there is a long list of “the obvious” that wasn’t mentioned at the Summit.

DSchoen on March 12, 2010 at 3:55 PM

barnone on March 12, 2010 at 10:45 AM

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh, have you been paying attention?

1910, 1945, 1992, 2009, 2010
Every time the Dems go for this they get their a$$eS handed to them.

Obviously the people don’t want what is being sold!

DSchoen on March 12, 2010 at 4:09 PM

The other 4 years were when the US had 57 states.

malclave on March 12, 2010 at 4:14 PM