Endgame: House to begin final push for ObamaCare on Monday
posted at 5:52 pm on March 11, 2010 by Allahpundit
They may not have the votes — they may not even have a viable path to reconciliation at the moment — but it’s too late to worry about that now. Ramming speed, stat.
With this, I’m now officially hopelessly confused about the procedural strategy here.
What’s going on? The final push for Obamacare is about to begin. It starts on Monday, when the House Budget Committee will insert reconciliation instructions into the November House health care bill. By late Monday / early Tuesday, Budget will pass this bill and send it to the House Rules Committee, where Pelosi will change the language so that it matches the Senate bill. This is the final compromise legislation that may come to a vote on the House floor within weeks. “They’re creating the shell,” says Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin.
Why move ahead when the votes aren’t there? Pelosi hopes that launching the process will create enough momentum to flip Democrats her way. The clock is ticking. The speaker has two weeks before Congress breaks for Easter Recess. And the recess could kill off health care reform, since many of the wavering Democrats will get an earful from their constituents when they return home. Republicans expect Democrats to lose votes over the break.
More on Ryan and “the shell” from Philip Klein:
Ryan said that the Senate parliamentarian’s ruling that President Obama must sign a health care bill into law before the Senate can change it through reconciliation largely renders moot the attempt by Rep. Louise Slaughter to shield members from a direct vote on the Senate health care bill. He said the idea would also violate Obama’s call for an up-or-down vote. “That’s not an up-or-down vote, that’s sweeping it under the rug and into law,” Ryan said.
I think this means they’re abandoning the Slaughter strategy and proceeding to a direct do-or-die vote on Reid’s bill and a separate vote on a reconciliation fix in the hope/expectation that the Senate will keep its promise and pursue reconciliation once both bills pass. They can forget about Stupak’s bloc in that case, but per Waxman’s comments earlier, it sounds like they’ve already forgotten about it. The only issue now is whether anxious House Blue Dogs have enough confidence in Reid to push reconciliation through that they’ll pull the trigger for his bill. A question from Lamar Alexander and Judd Gregg: How lucky do you feel?
Note the point in the blockquote about getting this done by the recess. Gibbs and Pelosi are being casual about the March 18 deadline, but don’t be fooled. Exit quotation: “There wasn’t any more clarity on the tick tock of the process, which is obviously, you know, a deal breaker for some people.”
Update: A little more clarity from NRO. I was wondering when Madam Speaker would insert all the legislative bribes she’ll need to make to bring centrist Dems around. Here’s the answer:
Ryan says that, come Monday, Democrats “will bring a shell piece of reconciliation legislation” to the budget committee. “The reconciliation process has to begin there,” he says. “Here’s what they’ll do: They will take the House health-care bill and mark it up so that it can become a reconciliation vehicle. Republicans will make runs at this via motions to instruct, but since we’re outnumbered, their package will get through the committee. Then they’ll send that shell of a bill to the House Rules Committee. The rules committee will then gut the budget committee’s reconciliation bill and drop in all of the deals that Speaker Pelosi arranges with members who vote for the Senate health-care bill in the House.” Those deals, he adds, “will be hard to scrutinize, and we may never know their full extent, since many of them will be orchestrated outside of health-care legislation.”









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KILL THE BILL!!!
galvestonian on March 11, 2010 at 5:56 PM
I’m with Allah. I am so confused by this point which could very well be what they want. Could someone *please* explain how all this is even *remotely* legal?
Sarjex on March 11, 2010 at 5:56 PM
Urrrggghhhh…. JUST DIE ALREADY!!!!
davek70 on March 11, 2010 at 5:56 PM
More from Ryan here.
notropis on March 11, 2010 at 5:56 PM
Tipping point reached yet…?
Seven Percent Solution on March 11, 2010 at 5:57 PM
Who the hell knows what they are doing? I don’t think they even know at this point. Maybe it’s just a hail mary in the last seconds of the game.
AUINSC on March 11, 2010 at 5:57 PM
This is kind of like watching someone commit suicide with a 12 gauge. Let’s home the Republicans are smart enough not to get any blood on them.
kam582 on March 11, 2010 at 5:57 PM
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
capejasmine on March 11, 2010 at 5:58 PM
Someone PLEASE Stick a Fork in It!
PappaMac on March 11, 2010 at 5:58 PM
They’re playing this political game where industries might get toppled and they don’t give one rip about it.
The left talks and talks about standing up for the average person, but yet, the average person are the ones employed by doctors, health care clinics, hospitals, insurance companies and big pharma who will be harmed by this plan.
StevefromMKE on March 11, 2010 at 5:59 PM
This issue is like getting your teeth drilled.
trapeze on March 11, 2010 at 5:59 PM
Forget Ramming Speed, I think they have gone to Ludicrous Speed. And can Plaid be far behind?
parke on March 11, 2010 at 5:59 PM
These Marxists need to feel pain. As Sauron would say, they have chosen the way of pain. bring it.
elduende on March 11, 2010 at 6:00 PM
Push back, don’t quit, no matter what. We outnumber them and we will beat them.
BottomLine5 on March 11, 2010 at 6:00 PM
Whoops not Sauron, Saruman.
elduende on March 11, 2010 at 6:00 PM
It’ll end when Pelosi has to turn over the gavel next March.
Yeah, I know the Constitutional term ends in January.
Chris_Balsz on March 11, 2010 at 6:00 PM
NRO.
It appears that there will be bribes and payoffs, but they won’t be in the reconciliation bill, but hidden in the text of other bills.
So the House Dems don’t get chased out of Pizza Hut like Nelson, but how do they justify voting for the Senate text, which will become law when Obama signs that version?
They have to know Obama and Reid will pivot to Shamnesty and leave them high and dry with thier vote.
Wethal on March 11, 2010 at 6:01 PM
Sounds kinda like Pelosi and Reid are just making up their own bill and pretending somebody voted for it.
Unbelievable asshattery.
peski on March 11, 2010 at 6:01 PM
What stopped them from passing the bill today?
1. Republican Filibuster
2. Evil Insurance Companies
3. Contemplating reading it first
4. Don’t have the votes
fogw on March 11, 2010 at 6:02 PM
I think we need to look closely at who passes it on the Budget and Rules committees. I figure they must have a commitment to get Senate language that far.
When the House defeats that, depending on how, they could technically strike a paragraph and submit it again; and it would be interesting if it died in committee.
Maybe if Republicans stop pretending there’s some bill they’d love to pass, just not this current incarnation…
Chris_Balsz on March 11, 2010 at 6:04 PM
I think our Constitution is under attack by the Dems. This will tear our country a part. BTW, what happened to BHO’s health car bill?
d1carter on March 11, 2010 at 6:04 PM
Not to encourage mixed metaphors, but it’s more like:
Rahming speed, spaz.
neurosculptor on March 11, 2010 at 6:04 PM
Call your Representatives. We need to prevent them from voting on the Senate bill.
Enoxo on March 11, 2010 at 6:04 PM
This has got to be the liberal leftist equivalent of Pickett’s Charge!
And for those who don’t need to brush up on your Civil War history, you KNOW what I’m talking about here!
pilamaye on March 11, 2010 at 6:05 PM
No $hit? I’d guess that is their goal. Keep people confused enough to not want to call and complain. The fact that no one understands it is enough to make sure it doesn’t pass. If these despicable minions of Satan wont make a bill understandable to average Americans it doesn’t deserve to be law.
KILL THE BILL!!!!!!!
Keep calling and complaining folks! Call these demratF**CKS and tell them your rep will HAVE NO PROBLEM getting elected and you will be sending your dollars to their opponent next November.
csdeven on March 11, 2010 at 6:05 PM
If this goes through…it is the end of our republic as we know it.
There no longer are rules, laws, order, or a Constitution.
It’s over. Anything goes.
katy on March 11, 2010 at 6:06 PM
The Dems are trotting out kids now to sell this crap.
d1carter on March 11, 2010 at 6:07 PM
Obama is like a mad scientist with Americans as his lab rats.
MB4 on March 11, 2010 at 6:07 PM
Just get this bill killed by Memorial Day so I can enjoy another global warming summer.
WashJeff on March 11, 2010 at 6:08 PM
I think that guy who reviewed The Phantom Menace on YouTube should do a new one attempting to explain this mess.
Mark1971 on March 11, 2010 at 6:08 PM
So they want to ram it through before they go home to face their constituents?
March 16th – The People’s Surge against Obamacare 2.0
Anyone going to be there? It’s time to make noise and since they’ll all be in town, it’s time they heard even more of us.
Knucklehead on March 11, 2010 at 6:08 PM
Why do you fail to see what is right in front of you?
Just as the dithering was the strategy for the laughable contemplation process of troop increases, the confusion is the strategy being employed. It’s a matter of “Don’t throw me in that briar patch! Anything but that briar patch!!” from the dems.
neurosculptor on March 11, 2010 at 6:09 PM
Let’s start a bet pot to see how quickly it’ll boomarang….
CynicalOptimist on March 11, 2010 at 6:09 PM
You should have heard this idiot on Medved today. He basically said that private property is un-Christian, and we should all give everything to the government to redistribute “where it is needed”.
peski on March 11, 2010 at 6:10 PM
Knucklehead on March 11, 2010 at 6:08 PM
Freedom Workds must have been too scared of the symbolism to choose the 15th of March. Having Blue Dogs join in in stabbing the bill would be quite fitting…Et tu Blue Dogs.
WashJeff on March 11, 2010 at 6:11 PM
Man the phones!!!
tommer74 on March 11, 2010 at 6:13 PM
tar and feathers time
unseen on March 11, 2010 at 6:13 PM
Good lets finish this either way once and for all.
I think it goes down in flames – just a feeling. I hope I’m right.
gophergirl on March 11, 2010 at 6:13 PM
Troll Gun Trivia
Who said this?
A) crr6
B) Proud Rino
C) Bleeds Blue
WashJeff on March 11, 2010 at 6:14 PM
a national leader needs to make a call for a march/sit in in DC next week. If we get a couple million people clogging the streets the bill will die.
unseen on March 11, 2010 at 6:14 PM
“Reconciliation is a distraction for the Democratic leadership — something to talk about with members while keeping their eye on the main prize, which is passing the Senate bill.”
I’m still lost but I’m glad Ryan gets it!
Buy Danish on March 11, 2010 at 6:14 PM
If we had a decent MSM they would chase the pork payoffs. It could be done.
a capella on March 11, 2010 at 6:14 PM
I’m going to continue digging the bunker deeper just in case.
Bishop on March 11, 2010 at 6:15 PM
Forget trying to understand it. Just get on the phone. Call every day. Every damn day.
Eren on March 11, 2010 at 6:15 PM
(B)
Bishop on March 11, 2010 at 6:16 PM
The human instinct to survive is the key. Not enough Dems are willing to commit political suicide.
CWforFreedom on March 11, 2010 at 6:16 PM
I wouldn’t bet on the Senate starting their final push after the Senate Parliamentarian’s ruling today, which I wrote about here.
LFRGary on March 11, 2010 at 6:16 PM
About $130 bucks on Southwest out of Chicago. Most of the flights are sold out. Does that mean something?
Knucklehead on March 11, 2010 at 6:16 PM
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
capejasmine on March 11, 2010 at 5:58 PM
How did you get your comment to run outside the box?!! COOL!!!
J.J. Sefton on March 11, 2010 at 6:17 PM
Kamikaze Healthcare
Denverslim on March 11, 2010 at 6:19 PM
Confusion is the goal here, correct?
AHH yes, the fog of war against the American people.
Pray for the Dems to screw it up!
Buckeye Babe on March 11, 2010 at 6:20 PM
Amen. This is why we need more actual REPRESENTATIVES (people who agree that we mostly pay them to keep an eye out for this crap.)
notropis on March 11, 2010 at 6:20 PM
L’Etat, c’est Barack.
Haiku Guy on March 11, 2010 at 6:20 PM
what if it was all a ruse to confuse us, makes us think its not passing because all these moderates switching to “No”
Then over the weekend or early next week they come out with alot of compromises and all these moderates quickly switch back to yes and its passed before we know it? They would’ve avoided the past several weeks of bad press by switching to yes at last minute and can claim they did so around a moderate bill.
jp on March 11, 2010 at 6:20 PM
Why are they even bothering with all this? Wouldn’t it be easier to set the capitol building on fire, blame the Republicans, and pass an emergency decree granting Obama emergency powers to implement Obamacare?
bitsy on March 11, 2010 at 6:21 PM
Levin’s on fire about this ‘slaughter’ option – give it a listen, good stuff.
Midas on March 11, 2010 at 6:21 PM
Take out the meat and stuff it with pork. Remember when the stimulus was supposed to be the last gasp of pork? Good times.
calbear on March 11, 2010 at 6:21 PM
This thing is going to pass. If it does not, I’ll be stunned stupid. The democrats have too much invested in it to let it fail. Neither Reid nor Pelosi will permit a vote until they know it passes.
Skandia Recluse on March 11, 2010 at 6:21 PM
It looks as if they will bribe or threaten their way to 216 votes for the Senate bill without Stupak’s group’s votes (assuming the Stupaks haven’t caved).
The bribes will be hidden in other bills.
The new bill will be the reconcilation bill they’ll have waiting for a vote once Obama signs the Senate version. Before they vote on the Senate bill, at least they will know what reconcialtion loks like. This assumes they have an agreement with the Senate on reconciliation language.
Then they trust Obama and Reid to push for reconciliation.
And the Blue Dogs think the voters won’t hold them accountable in the fall, or if they lose seats and the House, it was worth the sacrifice of the Suicide Squad seats.
Wethal on March 11, 2010 at 6:21 PM
Ludicrous speed! GO!
Weight of Glory on March 11, 2010 at 6:23 PM
Yep, my inner Eeyore is telling me the same thing.
AUINSC on March 11, 2010 at 6:23 PM
Buuuuuuuuush! (and Cheney)
peski on March 11, 2010 at 6:24 PM
FYI, Ed and AP have been requested by corporate to keep comments within bounds.
chaswv on March 11, 2010 at 6:24 PM
This whole process makes a mockery of the rule of law, and basic human decency. If it passes, the future of the Republic will be at risk.
Rebar on March 11, 2010 at 6:26 PM
End game? It’s been “End Game” since last July as was pointed out by Rush yesterday. I don’t recall the link Rush had for it, but it is on his web site for yesterday’s broadcast.
I think it’s going to be “end game” for the Dems on this until the GOP takes Congress back, so come on Jan 2011.
JimP on March 11, 2010 at 6:26 PM
If they didn’t have egos the size of Texas, Europe and Russia combined I’d be right there with you.
I think this goes down on the House floor.
gophergirl on March 11, 2010 at 6:27 PM
They don’t have the votes…
… that is why all the kabuki theater.
Listening to Pelosi and Reid reminds me of Bahgdad Bob:
Seven Percent Solution on March 11, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Quit insulting Bahgdad Bob.
chaswv on March 11, 2010 at 6:31 PM
Reid doesn’t care about his wife or child, not when there are Americans to screw. Expect him to leave them at the hospital while he continues to ram through DeathCare. Besides, he is probably having an affair with Nancy.
andy85719 on March 11, 2010 at 6:32 PM
OBAMA IS LIKE A SHORT WINDED CASTRO!
Cybergeezer on March 11, 2010 at 6:32 PM
But we do have the Heritage Foundation, who called this entire fiasco back in September 2009.
http://blog.heritage.org/2009/09/22/passing-a-shell-of-a-bill-how-congress-plans-to-ram-through-health-care-reform/
uknowmorethanme on March 11, 2010 at 6:34 PM
If it passes the way they are describing, I will not recognize it as law and take this to court once my taxes are due.
Electrongod on March 11, 2010 at 6:35 PM
What he lacks in length of speech, he make up in quantity.
Cindy Munford on March 11, 2010 at 6:35 PM
Well it looks like we are almost there folks. If we can defeat ObamaCare here then there is good chance the Dems will not bring it back out again. Obama and company are anxious to move on.
So keep up the pressure and bombard the Congress until their e-mail inboxes and phone lines are a smoking ruin. That goes equally for Democrats and Republicans.
Die Zombie Bill, Die!!!
Shogun144 on March 11, 2010 at 6:35 PM
Nice link. Thanks.
chaswv on March 11, 2010 at 6:36 PM
You got it man, er, lady!
Cybergeezer on March 11, 2010 at 6:37 PM
A) crr6
B) Proud Rino
C) Bleeds Blue
WashJeff on March 11, 2010 at 6:14 PM
I’ll take C
heshtesh on March 11, 2010 at 6:38 PM
Jesus! Every time I get an enema now, I think of Obama!
I don’t need any more reminder!
Cybergeezer on March 11, 2010 at 6:38 PM
If this isn’t about power why are they going against their constituents?
Cindy Munford on March 11, 2010 at 6:39 PM
Man, I’d hate to be a House Dem casting a “yes” vote on this turkey, only to see it fail.
Meredith on March 11, 2010 at 6:39 PM
Besides he is probably having an affair with Nancy.
andy5719 on March 11 at 6:32 PM
That is the most nauseating suggestion that I have ever heard
volsense on March 11, 2010 at 6:39 PM
The next plan’s going to involve a giant cake car and a bag of 10,000 marbles.
Chuck Schick on March 11, 2010 at 6:39 PM
*endgame* the most over used word on this blog.. and counting.
abobo on March 11, 2010 at 6:40 PM
Whut?
Cybergeezer on March 11, 2010 at 6:42 PM
About $130 bucks on Southwest out of Chicago. Most of the flights are sold out. Does that mean something?
Knucklehead on March 11, 2010 at 6:16 PM
Yes it means they realized they screwed up going to Chicago in the first place.
heshtesh on March 11, 2010 at 6:43 PM
Why don’t they do it the Democrat/Chicago way and fire the senate parliamentarian and replace them with someone who will say yes to them. They have gone this far, why not continue over the cliff.
tommer74 on March 11, 2010 at 6:44 PM
Krauthammer just used the term “Krakatoa”:
Superb!
Cybergeezer on March 11, 2010 at 6:44 PM
The wife has a broken neck. Harry stopped by the hospital and returned to Capital Hill……..per Fox news.
Knucklehead on March 11, 2010 at 6:44 PM
Daily Caller.
How they deal with the pro-life Stupak language, I don’t know, as that is a policy matter that can’t be part of reconciliation (unless they plan on having Biden rule that it is.)
Wethal on March 11, 2010 at 6:45 PM
BTW, what happened to BHO’s health car bill?
d1carter on March 11, 2010 at 6:04 PM
You mean the 11-page list of “suggestions”? There never was a “bill” – BamBam doesn’t know how to write one….
andy85719 on March 11, 2010 at 6:32 PM
Totally uncalled for – conservatives are above that kind of sentiment. Our family is praying for the Reid family, and we hope that Mrs. Reid and her daughter make a full recovery.
TeresainFortWorth on March 11, 2010 at 6:45 PM
Reid’s family will be okay. That is good news and all that should be said regarding that.
Jvette on March 11, 2010 at 6:45 PM
The end of Animal House. At least that nutty plan worked.
Chuck Schick on March 11, 2010 at 6:45 PM
I’ve heard this end game malarky before. ObamaCare is like a really bad zombie movie sequel. It just keeps coming back.
jjrakman on March 11, 2010 at 6:46 PM
Krauthammer just poo-poohed the shell bill shenanigans on Special Report. I hope to God he’s right.
rcpjr on March 11, 2010 at 6:47 PM
If I don’t get a call for a job, I’ll try to make it. Capitol South Metro, right?
bernzright777 on March 11, 2010 at 6:47 PM
And Bluto became a US Senator.
neurosculptor on March 11, 2010 at 6:50 PM
Man! I appreciate that; But, this shid ain’t funny!
Cybergeezer on March 11, 2010 at 6:51 PM
Besides he is probably having an affair with Nancy.
andy5719 on March 11 at 6:32 PM
That is the most nauseating suggestion that I have ever heard
volsense on March 11, 2010 at 6:39 PM
I could make it a lot worse if i had reason to hurt you.
heshtesh on March 11, 2010 at 6:52 PM
Not even a car wreck that breaks his wife’s back and injures his daughter are enough to keep Harry Reid from this obsession!
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/03/11/us/AP-US-Reid-Family-Accident.html?_r=1
”Mrs. Reid has a broken nose, broken back and broken neck. Lana has a neck injury and facial lacerations. Both Mrs. Reid and Lana are conscious, can feel their extremities, and according to doctors their injuries are non-life threatening,” Manley said. ”Sen. Reid has been to the hospital and appreciates the support he and his family are receiving from Nevadans and his colleagues in the Senate.”
Reid later returned to Capitol Hill, where he was meeting with White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on efforts to pass health care legislation.
katy on March 11, 2010 at 6:53 PM
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