Endgame: House to begin final push for ObamaCare on Monday
posted at 5:52 pm on March 11, 2010 by Allahpundit
They may not have the votes — they may not even have a viable path to reconciliation at the moment — but it’s too late to worry about that now. Ramming speed, stat.
With this, I’m now officially hopelessly confused about the procedural strategy here.
What’s going on? The final push for Obamacare is about to begin. It starts on Monday, when the House Budget Committee will insert reconciliation instructions into the November House health care bill. By late Monday / early Tuesday, Budget will pass this bill and send it to the House Rules Committee, where Pelosi will change the language so that it matches the Senate bill. This is the final compromise legislation that may come to a vote on the House floor within weeks. “They’re creating the shell,” says Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin.
Why move ahead when the votes aren’t there? Pelosi hopes that launching the process will create enough momentum to flip Democrats her way. The clock is ticking. The speaker has two weeks before Congress breaks for Easter Recess. And the recess could kill off health care reform, since many of the wavering Democrats will get an earful from their constituents when they return home. Republicans expect Democrats to lose votes over the break.
More on Ryan and “the shell” from Philip Klein:
Ryan said that the Senate parliamentarian’s ruling that President Obama must sign a health care bill into law before the Senate can change it through reconciliation largely renders moot the attempt by Rep. Louise Slaughter to shield members from a direct vote on the Senate health care bill. He said the idea would also violate Obama’s call for an up-or-down vote. “That’s not an up-or-down vote, that’s sweeping it under the rug and into law,” Ryan said.
I think this means they’re abandoning the Slaughter strategy and proceeding to a direct do-or-die vote on Reid’s bill and a separate vote on a reconciliation fix in the hope/expectation that the Senate will keep its promise and pursue reconciliation once both bills pass. They can forget about Stupak’s bloc in that case, but per Waxman’s comments earlier, it sounds like they’ve already forgotten about it. The only issue now is whether anxious House Blue Dogs have enough confidence in Reid to push reconciliation through that they’ll pull the trigger for his bill. A question from Lamar Alexander and Judd Gregg: How lucky do you feel?
Note the point in the blockquote about getting this done by the recess. Gibbs and Pelosi are being casual about the March 18 deadline, but don’t be fooled. Exit quotation: “There wasn’t any more clarity on the tick tock of the process, which is obviously, you know, a deal breaker for some people.”
Update: A little more clarity from NRO. I was wondering when Madam Speaker would insert all the legislative bribes she’ll need to make to bring centrist Dems around. Here’s the answer:
Ryan says that, come Monday, Democrats “will bring a shell piece of reconciliation legislation” to the budget committee. “The reconciliation process has to begin there,” he says. “Here’s what they’ll do: They will take the House health-care bill and mark it up so that it can become a reconciliation vehicle. Republicans will make runs at this via motions to instruct, but since we’re outnumbered, their package will get through the committee. Then they’ll send that shell of a bill to the House Rules Committee. The rules committee will then gut the budget committee’s reconciliation bill and drop in all of the deals that Speaker Pelosi arranges with members who vote for the Senate health-care bill in the House.” Those deals, he adds, “will be hard to scrutinize, and we may never know their full extent, since many of them will be orchestrated outside of health-care legislation.”









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I can’t help but say it again, for the last time: I suspect a few Dems are having a massive attacks of conscience. Yes, most of them are back-stabbing statists. BUT–all it takes is one or two to lie sleepless while country goes to h#ll, remembering their oaths and wondering where it all went to horribly, dreadfully wrong.
Desperation has set in. A thousand kinds of illegal are goin’ down. Sometime soon, someone’s gonna start talking.
This Waterloo could turn into Watergate 2.0.
Grace_is_sufficient on March 11, 2010 at 6:53 PM
Barack Obama is just evil!!
mobydutch on March 11, 2010 at 6:54 PM
But we do have the Heritage Foundation, who called this entire fiasco back in September 2009.
http://blog.heritage.org/2009/09/22/passing-a-shell-of-a-bill-how-congress-plans-to-ram-through-health-care-reform/
uknowmorethanme on March 11, 2010 at 6:55 PM
With the lights out, how does he know the difference between Nancy and Rahm?
Cybergeezer on March 11, 2010 at 6:55 PM
Isn’t Monday the Ides of March? Not terribly auspicious planning there, champ.
alwaysfiredup on March 11, 2010 at 6:56 PM
to = so. I should not post and cook at the same time.
Grace_is_sufficient on March 11, 2010 at 6:56 PM
“Massive attack of conscience”?
Not possible.
Cybergeezer on March 11, 2010 at 6:56 PM
This seems to signal that Joe Biden will in fact overrule the Senate Parliamentarian. Well, good luck to the Dems on that. It will create another entire press cycle or two where the Dems will be on the defensive attempting to explain why this is legal. Since overruling the Parliamentarian is very rare they will be hard pressed to explain that it not an exceptional measure designed to ram through unpopular legislation.
Whether they realize it or not, this is a profoundly negative outcome for the Dems. If the health care bill is passed without convincing the public that it is the right thing to do, the public will give the Republicans enough votes in November to get rid of it. As it stands right now, the Dems will probably keep their majorities and only lose some ground. But if they use those majorities to betray the will of their constituents, they might get swept out of office in a big big way.
Hawthorne on March 11, 2010 at 6:57 PM
So their goal is to have Americans so confused they don’t know what is about to happen to them until it’s too late? Way to govern! I’m going to need a good dose of whatever is in their health care plan when they get through, because these people are making me sick!
scalleywag on March 11, 2010 at 6:57 PM
The Democrats are quickly losing sight of the consent of the governed and turning to lies, trickery and deceit.
tarpon on March 11, 2010 at 6:58 PM
You must be using olive oil! My last post kept sliding off the page.
Cybergeezer on March 11, 2010 at 6:59 PM
Prayers. Glad to hear “not life threatening”
bernzright777 on March 11, 2010 at 7:01 PM
Katy, thanks for the update.
American medicine has come a long way when a broken back and a broken neck are not considered to be life-threatening injuries. Senator Reid is, knowingly, about to destroy the medical system that is saving his wife and daugher.
Mary in LA on March 11, 2010 at 7:01 PM
The Hill.
Pelosi doesn’t have the votes, but is apparently trying to create momentum to get them.
Wethal on March 11, 2010 at 7:02 PM
winner.
bernzright777 on March 11, 2010 at 7:03 PM
katy on March 11, 2010 at 7:06 PM
When are we going to put this thing in a box and nail it shut? Don’t know if we can yell any louder, but plans call for a march on Tuesday if you can get to DC.
Kissmygrits on March 11, 2010 at 7:07 PM
As if this hasn’t gotten ugly enough.
John the Libertarian on March 11, 2010 at 7:10 PM
Nancy can bribe all she wants. She still doesn’t have the votes. And if they do manage to squeak by on it, there will be hell to pay when the public finds out the ‘costs’.
GarandFan on March 11, 2010 at 7:11 PM
Exactly.
Jvette on March 11, 2010 at 7:12 PM
Capital Hill…. where the devils spawn gather
bluegrass on March 11, 2010 at 7:17 PM
Bring it on. The more these economic ignoramuses pile on, the sooner we’ll be rid of rampaging leviathan. Then, we reset sans the idiotic and filthy collectivism.
Rae on March 11, 2010 at 7:20 PM
I called Ron Andrews office before and they hung up.That was before Christie sunk Corzine,I hope rob is sweating bullets and craping razor blades.
Farfed on March 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM
FIFY:)
truetexan on March 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM
I don’t think you’re using the two words I bolded correctly
malclave on March 11, 2010 at 7:25 PM
I don’t know if anyone else saw this, but Mort Kondracke said that he thought the chances of this passing were at best 40% now, less than 50-/50.
Terrye on March 11, 2010 at 7:28 PM
You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
Lily on March 11, 2010 at 7:34 PM
Am I the only one who feels he’s in the middle of his own little “Ground Hog Day movie?
chickasaw42 on March 11, 2010 at 7:34 PM
I read the plan of how they get this done 3 times. I still have no clue what it is.
angryed on March 11, 2010 at 7:39 PM
The answer is:
WashJeff on March 11, 2010 at 7:43 PM
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
Chuck Schick on March 11, 2010 at 7:50 PM
It doesn’t matter if they don’t have the votes. They are looking at something as extreme as “deeming” the Senate bill passed and proceding from there. They will stop at nothing to pass this mess.
Only a determined very large march or gathering on DC will even grab their attention for a moment. They have thrown the Constitution and the rule of law to the wind.
GOD help us.
mountainmanbob on March 11, 2010 at 7:51 PM
We need to reset everything. It This is long but stick with it to the end.
A real history lesson on Common Law.
PrincipledPilgrim on March 11, 2010 at 7:51 PM
You sure it was a car wreck? Seems to me like Reid is just upset because he’s about to lose his job.
RINO in Name Only on March 11, 2010 at 7:54 PM
Yeah, but Truman knew when to quit. He was not a fanatic.
Terrye on March 11, 2010 at 8:00 PM
All of these people need to be rounded up and frog marched straight out of office.
NoLeftTurn on March 11, 2010 at 8:09 PM
Don’t be deliberately obtuse. Washington has been “reforming” health care (into the ground) since the 60s.
Rae on March 11, 2010 at 8:19 PM
Too bad you can’t trust any Dem. We don’t know if this “final push” is something simply to boast morale and the leverage.
Nor do we know how many of the Dems will actually vote against the measure.
What they say on day 1 is not related to their behavior the next day.
This could be a slam dunk for Obamacare….or a loss.
But simple logic is, that given the background of the Dems, they have many, many ways to influence a vote.
r keller on March 11, 2010 at 9:16 PM
NObama & Liberal Socialist Democrats use NAKED POWER Monday to ram through the House unknown Health Deform Enablement, reminiscent of the National Liberal Socialist Workers party?? Where is the Historian Allahpundit? What exactly did the NAZIs ram through in 1933? The “Enabling Act” quoted “The government will make use of these powers only insofar as they are essential for carrying out vitally necessary measures…The number of cases in which an internal necessity exists for having recourse to such a law is in itself a limited one.” – Hitler told the Reichstag. Enabling National Socialism, yes it is apparently just what the NAZIs did back in the 30s and EXACTLY what Liberal Socialist Saul Alinsky True Believers will do Monday.
mathewsjw on March 11, 2010 at 9:38 PM
Uh guys, the Constitution (Its that old faded thing in the National Archives) says you can’t use the Slaughter solution.
Section 7 – Revenue Bills, Legislative Process, Presidential Veto
All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.
Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States; If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by Yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.
gordo on March 11, 2010 at 10:28 PM
Too bad they won’t be the first enrollees in the new improved HC./s
AH_C on March 11, 2010 at 11:35 PM
Rahm’s the one standing totally naked in the Congressional locker room in front of Massa. Nancy is holding the towel.
leftnomore on March 12, 2010 at 3:43 AM
Its not that pelosi doesn’t have the votes, SHE IS LOSING VOTES. In the normal world this bill is dead, but the DEMS simply don’t care and we will end up seeing a vote that will probably go down in defeat.
rob verdi on March 12, 2010 at 6:04 AM
The backlash will be intense. This is an act of desperation.
dogsoldier on March 12, 2010 at 6:33 AM
So, if I understand this shell game, the House will vote on a seperate ‘fix’ bill which amends the Senate bill and then vote on the Senate bill.
Same problem. The house has to trust that the Senate will even look at the ‘fix’ bill after Obama signs the (presumably) approved Senate bill.
percysunshine on March 12, 2010 at 6:42 AM
Oh, and this new bill will need 60 votes in the Senate.
Forgot that part.
percysunshine on March 12, 2010 at 6:59 AM
Final? Pffft. It will only be considered the final push after it passes.
Kafir on March 12, 2010 at 7:02 AM
As mark Levin already stated last night, this move would create a constitutional crisis and is as serious as martial law. This move would turn the country upside down. This is verrrrrrry serious. If this happens it is the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thMm-7RFsm0
margretto on March 12, 2010 at 8:11 AM
The Evil
Insurance Co’s.Obama Administration Bandits are a bunch of underhanded, dirty dealing crooks!Herb on March 12, 2010 at 3:06 PM
So what happens Monday you lying socialistic ideologue narcissistic anti-American pariah…… try this:
When in danger, or in doubt….run in circles scream and shout.
highninside on March 12, 2010 at 4:12 PM
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