Sad: Democrats now openly lying to lefties about repealing the filibuster

posted at 8:03 pm on March 10, 2010 by Allahpundit

Even sadder? The apparent credulity of HuffPo’s Sam Stein and WaPo’s Ezra Klein that they’re serious. I guess, when there’s bad news on almost every front, sometimes it’s helpful to believe a lie that makes you feel good.

Think of it as a morale booster.

“The rules committee is going to start holding hearings on how to undo the filibuster rule,” said Schumer, who chairs the Senate Rules Committee. The New York Democrat told the Huffington Post after the speech that the hearings would take place two or three weeks from now…

“The filibuster has been abused. I believe that the Senate should be different than the House and will continue to be different than the House,” Reid said. “But we’re going to take a look at the filibuster. Next Congress, we’re going to take a look at it. We are likely to have to make some changes in it, because the Republicans have abused that just like the spitball was abused in baseball and the four-corner offense was abused in basketball.”

Reid’s embrace of filibuster reform comes after he previously threw cold water on the likelihood of getting the rules changed. His reference to the “next Congress” stands out. To change Senate rules in the middle of the session requires 67 votes, which Democrats clearly don’t have. But changing the rules at the beginning of the 112th Congress will require the chair to declare the Senate is in a new session and can legally draft new rules. That ruling would be made by Vice President Joe Biden, who has spoken out against the current abuse of the filibuster. The ruling can be appealed, but that appeal can be defeated with a simple majority vote.

Klein notes that Reid seems keener on shortening the time frame for cloture votes than in eliminating the filibuster altogether, which makes more sense. But let’s indulge the repeal fantasy for a moment. They didn’t have the balls to do it when they had 60 seats and were convinced that 2008 had ushered in a new liberal realignment. But now, with voters trending conservative, the public recoiling at the ruthless partisanship of reconciliation, and the seven most vulnerable Senate seats this fall all held by Democrats, they’re going to start talking up some dicey new procedural strategy for next year — when they’ll be on the brink of being returned to the minority themselves in the next election cycle? No wonder cold feet are getting colder:

“Most people don’t want to do it,” said California Sen. Dianne Feinstein. “I wouldn’t waste time on process. I would spend more time on bringing about goodwill.”

“I wouldn’t get any rules changes right now,” said Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus. “You’ve got to really think through things like that.”

Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) has spent a lot of time thinking about the filibuster — so much so that he joined Harkin in introducing a filibuster-reform measure in 1994…

But ask him about the filibuster now, and his response is more nuanced. “It wasn’t meant to be used for every bill,” Lieberman said last week. “On the other hand, I’d hate to lose it for the bills where it should be used.”…

“All this talk of getting rid of it is always just posturing,” said former Senate Parliamentarian Robert Dove, who gives Democrats “zero” chance of substantially reforming the filibuster now.

In other words, this threat is approximately as menacing as Kos’s threat to primary Dennis Kucinich for opposing ObamaCare, which was also taken seriously by HuffPo even though the filing deadline for running for federal office in Ohio passed last month. Exit quotation from Ace: “I … think it’s hysterical that Harry Reid still thinks he’ll be part of the next Congress.”


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*SHOCK*

Lying liars lying to themselves and others.

…I love it!

alohapundit on March 10, 2010 at 8:06 PM

Too bad Reid won’t be there for the next Senate session.

Dandapani on March 10, 2010 at 8:06 PM

“But we’re going to take a look at the filibuster. Next Congress, we’re going to take a look at it. We are likely to have to make some changes in it, because the Republicans have abused that just like the spitball was abused in baseball and the four-corner offense was abused in basketball.”

Hey Harry, if any changes are made in the filibuster rules next session, you’ll be watching them on C-SPAN from your rusting mobile home in Searchlight, Nevada.

Cicero43 on March 10, 2010 at 8:08 PM

And how, exactly, have the Republicans abused the filibuster in 2009, when the Democrats had 60 votes and it takes 60 votes to override a filibuster?

Democrats also openly lying about the filibuster. Shameless.

rbj on March 10, 2010 at 8:08 PM

Harry Who?

badtemper on March 10, 2010 at 8:09 PM

What a wonderful photo of Harry Reid… it kinda makes me believe he could raise enough cash to get re-elected -couple hundred mill, at least- if he would just let folks punch him in the face at, say, twenty a throw.

Doorgunner on March 10, 2010 at 8:09 PM

Just laying the groundwork for when they push Health Care again, you know around 2042 or something.

rob verdi on March 10, 2010 at 8:10 PM

So, what they are saying is that people donated lots of money/time/energy to elect 60 Dem senators and then the Dems just p*ssed it away, but the next time around they will do so much more with even fewer senators?

Good times.

myrenovations on March 10, 2010 at 8:13 PM

the public recoiling at the ruthless partisanship of reconciliation

I don’t care about “ruthless partisanship”. It’s the un-Constitutional, illegal nature of their attempt that is the problem. This is the sort of criminal maneuvering by people in government to grab power that is traditionally called a “coup”, not “ruthless partisanship”.

neurosculptor on March 10, 2010 at 8:15 PM

WHY DON’T YOU REALIZE THAT THE REASON THEY WANT THIS HEALTHCARE LEGISLATION PASSED IS BECAUSE IT GIVES THEM TOTAL CONTROL?
IT’S NOT ONLY ABOUT HEALTHCARE!
IT’S ABOUT OBAMA PUTTING THE NEXT THREE GENERATIONS ON WELFARE!

Cybergeezer on March 10, 2010 at 8:16 PM

“I … think it’s hysterical that Harry Reid still thinks he’ll be part of the next Congress.”

Tin foil hat on. Maybe they are going to do something to invoke martial law and cancel the elections.

Tin foil hat off. Reid’s must have O’d on hopium to talk like this.

chemman on March 10, 2010 at 8:16 PM

It is going to be hard to keep coming here if I have to look at Michael Bennett. The Senator of one vote everytime I come to Hot Air.

Just Sayin

400lb Gorilla on March 10, 2010 at 8:17 PM

Exit quotation from Ace: “I … think it’s hysterical that Harry Reid still thinks he’ll be part of the next Congress.”

Ha! Yeesssss.

Weight of Glory on March 10, 2010 at 8:17 PM

Isn’t repealing the filibuster a really dumb move for the Dems? With the GOP poised to potentially retake the Senate(I believe retaking the House is a forgone conclusion at this point), why allow them to pass anything they want with only 51 votes? Sure, Obama’s still around to veto all of it, but what happens in 2012 if/when he gets run?

Doughboy on March 10, 2010 at 8:18 PM

Cicero43 on March 10, 2010 at 8:08 PM

Nah, he’ll be retiring to a dacha in the Virgin Islands.

chemman on March 10, 2010 at 8:19 PM

Harry slipped up…

The price for this treason is the suspension of elections by el presedente for life, senior colonel Obowma the magnificent, ruler and dictator of the third world cesspool crap of a nation that used to be the United States of America. That is why he is talking about being around next year.

… What?

You don’t think that every thing that is going on, the lies, the daily twisting of rules, the farce, the corruption, the wiping of the Constitution with their a%ses is just a fluke?

Hey! Look over there in the corner…

… another “Stimulus” bill!

Seven Percent Solution on March 10, 2010 at 8:21 PM

“We’re going to push the Russians back to Moscow.”

-Goebbels 1945

Bishop on March 10, 2010 at 8:22 PM

Let’s put aside the fact that there has yet to actually be a Republican filibuster this Congress.

uknowmorethanme on March 10, 2010 at 8:23 PM

The Left: Cheap whores or battered wife syndrome?

SouthernGent on March 10, 2010 at 8:23 PM

“…full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.”

29Victor on March 10, 2010 at 8:24 PM

The Left: Cheap whores or battered wife syndrome?

SouthernGent on March 10, 2010 at 8:23 PM

Useful idiots.

neurosculptor on March 10, 2010 at 8:24 PM

The Dems – desperate people doing desperate things. They know that they are likely to loose control of Congress in November (assuming that they ever had absolute control) so they will try almost anything in their attempts to stave off disaster.

docdave on March 10, 2010 at 8:25 PM

The Left: Cheap whores or battered wife syndrome?

SouthernGent on March 10, 2010 at 8:23 PM

Cheap battered whores.

29Victor on March 10, 2010 at 8:25 PM

If you value your vision, do not visit Drudge until he changes the lead photo.

You’ve been warned.

BobMbx on March 10, 2010 at 8:25 PM

Heh I like this line:

I really can’t wait to gang-tickle the Reid family in November.

Spirit of 1776 on March 10, 2010 at 8:25 PM

“We’re going to push the Russians back to Moscow.”

-Goebbels 1945

Bishop on March 10, 2010 at 8:22 PM

“This time for sure!”

-Bullwinkle

29Victor on March 10, 2010 at 8:26 PM

If you value your vision, do not visit Drudge until he changes the lead photo.
You’ve been warned.
BobMbx on March 10, 2010 at 8:25 PM

Uh…uhh…uh….oh.

Bishop on March 10, 2010 at 8:28 PM

Lot’s of nice quotes to throw in their sorry faces when they become the next minority.

pedestrian on March 10, 2010 at 8:30 PM

Exactly which bills were blocked by the use of a filibuster this year or last year? I seem to remember Obamacare being passed by the Senate or was that in a parallel universe? It’s hard to abuse things that were never used in the first place. Threatened yes, used no.

Fred 2 on March 10, 2010 at 8:32 PM

The left lies, its what they do, I address this a bit in my recent blog post With friends like these…

doriangrey on March 10, 2010 at 8:35 PM

Fred 2,
that Senate bill was The Nightmare Before Christmas and for Dems I am sure it was a parallel universe, before the Brown Victory that is.

rob verdi on March 10, 2010 at 8:35 PM

If you value your vision, do not visit Drudge until he changes the lead photo.

You’ve been warned.

BobMbx on March 10, 2010 at 8:25 PM

Sorry, I already looked before seeing your warning…need to bleach my eyes…man where does he get these photos, and in glorious High Definition? There needs to be a law against these, or a house rule or something..

lukespapa on March 10, 2010 at 8:36 PM

I seem to remember Obamacare being passed by the Senate or was that in a parallel universe?

Fred 2 on March 10, 2010 at 8:32 PM

yes. The Senate got by the filibuster by illegally changing the law in Massachusetts, again, to have the dipsh!t governor select Kennedy’s replacement until Scott Borwn won and brought back the possibility of the GOP holding the line on a filibuster.

People should have been jailed for what they did in Massachusetts. There is no question that it was totally illegal, especially as they had just changed the same laws, in the opposite direction, to keep the former governor from appointing the Senate replacement.

neurosculptor on March 10, 2010 at 8:40 PM

Are the dhims delusional in a mass hysteria kinda way, or are they just psychopathic liars in semi-automatic mode?
Man, that’s gotta be 100 proof Kool-Aid they’re drinkin’.

ontherocks on March 10, 2010 at 8:44 PM

OT/.. in that pic..what making his nose look so brown and long??

Itchee Dryback on March 10, 2010 at 8:48 PM

I know; this was the top story over there much of the day. Earlier today a conservative commenter said that Reid can call his senator if he wants someone to do this next session.

juliesa on March 10, 2010 at 8:58 PM

Let’s put aside the fact that there has yet to actually be a Republican filibuster this Congress.
uknowmorethanme on March 10, 2010 at 8:23 PM

Thank you.

joejm65 on March 10, 2010 at 8:58 PM

Breaking on Fox News…

Healthcare Bill Dead on Arrival

say pro-life dems…obama drama…make it stop please!

lukespapa on March 10, 2010 at 8:58 PM

Democrat Party: Circus of Lies. And Clowns. Speak ‘truth to power’ and vote them out of office.

TN Mom on March 10, 2010 at 8:59 PM

Dims love liars, ethical and honorable people need not apply.

la.rt.wngr on March 10, 2010 at 9:04 PM

Reid is pure goat dung.

rplat on March 10, 2010 at 9:26 PM

Again… I feel like a broken record.

I’ll tell the Democrats the same thing I told the Republicans years ago.

Don’t grab any power that you wouldn’t willingly and happily hand your political opponents, because they will get ti soon enough.

Dems… do you really want to end the filibuster and make the Senate a majority-rules setup?

Don’t come crying to me when this blows up in your faces… which it will sooner rather than later.

gekkobear on March 10, 2010 at 9:36 PM

This is also be a bank shot, insurance against GOP gains in November.

Dems wants Republicans to defend the filibuster now …prerserving it for the (perhaps not too distant) day when Dems are again in the minority.

jeanneb on March 10, 2010 at 9:53 PM

When the republicans wanted to eliminate the filibuster only for judicial nominees it was called the nuclear option.

What exactly would you call this, Wolf 359?

If you know the reference, you should be ashamed of yourself.

RINO in Name Only on March 10, 2010 at 10:11 PM

Harry,

By the time you remove it, you’ll wish you had it.

Tim Burton on March 10, 2010 at 10:17 PM

This makes one wonder what they are planning to do before November.

OldEnglish on March 10, 2010 at 10:58 PM

Here’s an idea: draft bills that get at least 60 votes.

Dumb arses.

John the Libertarian on March 11, 2010 at 1:08 AM

Democrats lie?

Never.

angryed on March 11, 2010 at 8:02 AM

What exactly would you call this, Wolf 359?

If you know the reference, you should be ashamed of yourself.

RINO in Name Only on March 10, 2010 at 10:11 PM

Shame is irrelevant.
—Locutus

ncc770 on March 11, 2010 at 8:18 AM

Sen. Reid’s comments prove only one thing. He and his gang that cannot shoot straight have only one agenda for U.S. and that is dominance of U.S. by whatever means are necessary – legal or not.

MSGTAS on March 11, 2010 at 9:59 AM