New details emerge: How Massa tried to, er, “snorkel” his Navy shipmates
posted at 5:00 pm on March 10, 2010 by Allahpundit
Normally I’d say “shocking new details,” but c’mon.
Does climbing into a guy’s bunk and tickling his junk while he fends you off count as a “tickle-fight”?
According to Peter Clarke, a Navy shipmate, Massa was notorious for making unwanted advances toward subordinates. He tells the story of his friend Stuart Borsch, with whom Massa shared a hotel room while on leave during the first Gulf War. “Stuart’s at the edge of the bed,” Clarke says Borsch told him at the time, “and [Massa] starts massaging him. Massa said, ‘You’ll have to get one of my special massages.’ He called them ‘Massa Massages.’” Ron Moss, a Navy shipmate and Borsch’s roommate, confirmed that Borsch told him this story at the time.
Borsch, now a history professor at Assumption College in Worcester, Massachusetts, didn’t addresss that specific incident, but did confirm to me in an email that he was groped by Massa: “In 1990, aboard the U.S.S. Jouett, I was awakened when a senior officer, Lt. Commander Massa, seemed to be groping me. (I was a lieutenant at the time.) I believe he may have been drinking. I shouted at him and he left. I mentioned the incident to several other officers. I did not officially report it.”
Clarke says that Massa’s roommate, Tom Maxfield was also assaulted. “Tom lived on upper bunk,” Clarke say. “When you’re on ship, you’re almost exhausted 24-7. So a lot of times you sleep with your uniform on. Tom and Massa shared a stateroom together. Massa climbed up on the top of his bunk, which is hard to do–you never crawl up on somebody else’s bunk. He wakes up to Massa undoing his pants trying to snorkel him.” Ron Moss also confirmed hearing this story from Maxfield. Maxfield did [not] return calls and messages left for him–I’ll update if he does.
Why waste a post on this when, thanks to yesterday’s fiasco, this guy’s credibility is already destroyed? Three reasons. One: The snorkeling euphemism deserves a link, damn it. Two: I linked that Bob Lonsberry piece reciting the allegations against Massa during his naval career several times and figured you guys might want to compare and contrast. Lonsberry’s account is strikingly similar to what the Atlantic heard — except that the Atlantic notably now has people willing to go on the record. And three: To no one’s surprise, because of Massa’s resignation, the less-than-worthless House ethics committee has ended its investigation into his alleged misconduct. Barring a sexual harassment lawsuit by one of his victims, the only justice this guy’s going to get is from reporters. The Atlantic is the beginning but probably not the end.









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I shared a stateroom on a Navy ship and this never happened to me.
Maybe that’s why I’m not a Congressman.
NoDonkey on March 10, 2010 at 5:02 PM
Amazing how all this comes out after he was a no for Obamacare. Guess the lesson is, vote yes.
lorien1973 on March 10, 2010 at 5:04 PM
So, what does this mean for gays in the military and “don’t ask, don’t tell?”
DaydreamBeliever on March 10, 2010 at 5:04 PM
Eeeeeewwwwww.
Tim Zank on March 10, 2010 at 5:04 PM
Go Away Please!!!!
Chip on March 10, 2010 at 5:05 PM
I don’t want to hear about or from this guy anymore, honestly.
Enoxo on March 10, 2010 at 5:05 PM
Hahahaha, snorkel. I can just see putting that in a written report.
Clownballoon on March 10, 2010 at 5:07 PM
Made me laugh.
Darn right, it does! So funny/creepy.
Abby Adams on March 10, 2010 at 5:07 PM
I find it funny this guy was a conservative hero yesterday and Monday because people thought he was going to drop the dime on Democrats and it was going to be GLORIOUS! So much for that.
Norvell on March 10, 2010 at 5:07 PM
Now that we have more information about his Navy career, the best thing Massa could for America today is come out strong for repealing Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell. I hope he becomes the poster child for the repeal side.
RBMN on March 10, 2010 at 5:07 PM
What’s wrong with snorkeling?
Narutoboy on March 10, 2010 at 5:08 PM
Seriously, every magazine from Cosmo to Men’s Health to Ladies Home Journal would advocate this as a way to “spice things up.”
DaydreamBeliever on March 10, 2010 at 5:08 PM
I’m not sure I know what snorkeling is. Well, I’m sure I don’t know.
lorien1973 on March 10, 2010 at 5:08 PM
1. Why do people pervert so many words into sexual connotations? We may have to start carrying around lists of words that are no longer appropriate.
2. How come Massa’s details come out so fast, and Rangel’s details are stuck in the channel for two years? If I was Rangel, I would be complaining about the white guys getting to go to the head of the line at the House Ethics Committee.
Vashta.Nerada on March 10, 2010 at 5:09 PM
Massa is a nut.
I’m so happy he’s a DemocRat!
Jenfidel on March 10, 2010 at 5:10 PM
Does “snorkel” mean what I think it does?
aquaviva on March 10, 2010 at 5:10 PM
The Scuba Diving Industry just suffered a huge blow because of the “snorkeling” term being used in a sexual manner.
portlandon on March 10, 2010 at 5:10 PM
I find it funny this guy was a conservative hero yesterday and Monday because people thought he was going to drop the dime on Democrats and it was going to be GLORIOUS! So much for that.
Norvell on March 10, 2010 at 5:07 PM
I find it funny that the Dems did not have a full investigation on him while he was a Congressman. I guess his vote counted more than his behavior. Just like Teddy, Chris, and Bawney.
kingsjester on March 10, 2010 at 5:11 PM
1 – never been to urban dictionary?
lorien1973 on March 10, 2010 at 5:11 PM
In the police interrogation room, the murderer’s accomplice is always treated like a hero, and when he testifies he is the hero. But the day after, he’s a bum again. Nothing new about the Massa situation.
RBMN on March 10, 2010 at 5:11 PM
He was never a true conservative’s hero. Only the opportunists’ hero. And then propped up as all of our hero by Politico, etc. when it clearly wasn’t the case.
Abby Adams on March 10, 2010 at 5:12 PM
No, what is really funny is that this guy was a stand-up democrat until a couple of weeks ago, and the details started being leaked after he refused to change his vote.
Vashta.Nerada on March 10, 2010 at 5:12 PM
Well I had always heard the joke about a ship going out with 1000 sailors and coming back with 500 couples
firepilot on March 10, 2010 at 5:12 PM
Yes, you do, bud. Yes, you do.
I used the term some 20 years ago — thought it was a California term.
John the Libertarian on March 10, 2010 at 5:12 PM
Massa snorkels. Amateur.
Carrie Prejean does it self-contained.
SouthernGent on March 10, 2010 at 5:12 PM
And your 15 minutes have expired. Please leave and don’t bother us again. Next!
Mallard T. Drake on March 10, 2010 at 5:12 PM
No teabagging?
the_nile on March 10, 2010 at 5:13 PM
WTH is snorkeling?
Joe Caps on March 10, 2010 at 5:14 PM
Speaking of UrbDict… have you seen snorkel?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=snorkel
Yipes!
Abby Adams on March 10, 2010 at 5:14 PM
Geez.
Second look at vows of silence….
Vashta.Nerada on March 10, 2010 at 5:14 PM
Breaking News: This will decide the course of this nation!
Decider on March 10, 2010 at 5:15 PM
So will this behavior suddenly become unscandalous after DADT is repealed?
Missy on March 10, 2010 at 5:15 PM
I just threw up a little in my mouth.
NickelAndDime on March 10, 2010 at 5:15 PM
I look it up before. UD always strikes me as “that’s not a real thing”. I’m imagining it’s #7, cuz it makes the most sense, I guess in this context. But still, never heard the term before now.
lorien1973 on March 10, 2010 at 5:16 PM
Guess he’ll have to settle for headlining CPAC 2011.
Chris_Balsz on March 10, 2010 at 5:16 PM
blatantly latent
DrW on March 10, 2010 at 5:17 PM
I can’t believe you guys have not made a Seaman joke yet!!
YOu are slipping guys!
conservnut on March 10, 2010 at 5:18 PM
If it’s #7 then how do you just wake up to someone “trying” to do that to you? You’d have to be a pretty deep sleeper!
chunderroad on March 10, 2010 at 5:18 PM
Have to worry about any service branch that names thier recruits “Seamen”
William Amos on March 10, 2010 at 5:19 PM
Was “blow” really the best choice of words?
/sarc
mwdiver on March 10, 2010 at 5:19 PM
That’s what I thought too. Ain’t no one sleepin thru that. If someone got that far, you are at least a willing recipient if not an active participant.
lorien1973 on March 10, 2010 at 5:20 PM
As former Navy, let me just say that Massa is really giving us some bad press.
If I ever woke up to find some guy pawing my package, well let’s just say that the morning roster would come up one guy short.
Bishop on March 10, 2010 at 5:22 PM
And I thought “Thar’ she blows” was talking about whales.
mwdiver on March 10, 2010 at 5:23 PM
I was told it wasn’t gay if it was in the Navy.
Did we really need details to prove this guy is a scum bag?
AND I really didn’t need to know that snorkeling was a gay term. I just didn’t.
ORconservative on March 10, 2010 at 5:23 PM
I just hope there are no Youtube videos to follow.
moonsbreath on March 10, 2010 at 5:23 PM
So ……. Massa is the slavik dwarf ? ? ? ?
I’m so confused.
oldfiveanddimer on March 10, 2010 at 5:24 PM
Massa must have thought the Village People were really in the Navy.
chunderroad on March 10, 2010 at 5:24 PM
Remember the good old days that if somebody climbed into your bunk and tried to rape you, you could beat them almost to death?
Good times. Good times.
portlandon on March 10, 2010 at 5:25 PM
Massa isn’t a big enough name. It’s Barney Frank, or nothing.
RBMN on March 10, 2010 at 5:25 PM
I suspected the sleepwalker was somehow behind Massa’s entry into politics. Sure enough.
Buddahpundit on March 10, 2010 at 5:28 PM
LOL!
So much for DADT, or is it “loose lips sink ships.”
chunderroad on March 10, 2010 at 5:28 PM
Yeah, Glenn made a mistake. But he’s honest. People tend to forgive when they know someone is not trying to bs their way past screw-ups.
Oh, and the first couple minutes is why I love Glenn Beck radio. They have FUN.
hoosiermama on March 10, 2010 at 5:30 PM
Amazing how Rangel’s ethics case dragged on for what, nearly two years, but this wrapped up in 45 minutes?
JammieWearingFool on March 10, 2010 at 5:31 PM
Bad timing for DADT and Obama wishing to put females on submarines.
Schadenfreude on March 10, 2010 at 5:31 PM
After a 16 hour ‘day’
I sit down to grab a bite to eat
and this is what to spring up on me Allah ?
;-)
Well , who needs food anyway ?
macncheez on March 10, 2010 at 5:32 PM
I find it funny that the “Massa’s a conservative hero!” meme is one being entirely pumped by ‘the left’. ;)
Midas on March 10, 2010 at 5:32 PM
Pelosi to Massa: “Walkback your allegations on Beck and we’ll drop the investigation.”
Done and done.
ROCnPhilly on March 10, 2010 at 5:33 PM
Isn’t it, though? Things that make ya go “hmmm….”
Midas on March 10, 2010 at 5:33 PM
Um, probably.
Midas on March 10, 2010 at 5:34 PM
The quote says the guy woke up to his pants being undone. He likely found Massa’s face in his crotch undoing his pants and called that snorkeling.
Not that I really want that imagery.
Enoxo on March 10, 2010 at 5:34 PM
Thanks for expanding my lexicon, Allah.
I can surmise what “snorkel” means in the Massa context.
No need to resort to UrbanDictionary.com.
molonlabe28 on March 10, 2010 at 5:35 PM
Will the Navy dudes who are talking to reporters and the ethics panel about Massa’s behavior eventually testify at the DADT hearings?
myrenovations on March 10, 2010 at 5:38 PM
And that really is an amazing thing. No wonder the rest of the world thinks America is crazy. For whatever reason we elect way too many of these creeps and morons to lead our nation.
MikeA on March 10, 2010 at 5:38 PM
I thik the ethics investigation had to end when Massa resigned. Congress can’t investigate a congressman that is no longer in Congress. Once he left, they lost their jurisdiction over the matter.
joejm65 on March 10, 2010 at 5:41 PM
What is the deal with going after people clearly not interested in you?
I think tomorrow I will walk around town and just grab the crotch of every cute guy I see.
Elizabetty on March 10, 2010 at 5:41 PM
I don’t usually think along these lines, but the more I hear of Massa the more I think that this guy needs a good beating. Maybe running headlong into the wall of reality- as well as some bloke who didn’t appreciate his genitals being tickled- would have done this full blown narcissist some good.
Daddy-O on March 10, 2010 at 5:42 PM
And what town do you live in? (Sorry, it was right over the plate…)
joejm65 on March 10, 2010 at 5:43 PM
Is Massa going to pen the sequel to Brokeback Mountain called “Snorkel Submarine”?
cyclown on March 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM
I am glad he has resigned now, but, the MSM did a great job vetting this guy when he ran in the first place.
Who did he run against? Did the never hear of opposition research?
barnone on March 10, 2010 at 5:47 PM
What time, which city, which street?
barnone on March 10, 2010 at 5:48 PM
+1,000,000!!
Comment of the Day!
newton on March 10, 2010 at 5:49 PM
Where do you live?
JammieWearingFool on March 10, 2010 at 5:49 PM
You guys need to be CUTE!!
If so, it is a small town in a Southern State.
Elizabetty on March 10, 2010 at 5:50 PM
Wow, AP, thanks for the emetic. Dinner is for chumps, anyway.
CantCureStupid on March 10, 2010 at 5:50 PM
Where were these people when Massa was running for election ?
macncheez on March 10, 2010 at 5:51 PM
I feel bad for his wife and kids. Can you imagine how humiliated and embarassed they must feel with this drip, drip, drip (no pun intended) of sordid details?
KickandSwimMom on March 10, 2010 at 5:52 PM
The only reason any of this is even news is because Massa hasn’t come out of the closet yet.
Hell, Barney Frank ran a whorehouse for boys.
uknowmorethanme on March 10, 2010 at 5:52 PM
Oh my that is so wrong! And you know how if you say a word over and over it doesn’t sound like a word anymore?
Snorkel. Snorkel. Snorkelsnorkelsnorkelsnorkelsnorkel.
Snnoooooorrrrrrrkkkkkeeeellllllllll! Snorkel!
Spectreman on March 10, 2010 at 5:53 PM
You’ve ruined an eighties cartoon for me. Thanks, but please leave Thundercats alone.
chicagojedi on March 10, 2010 at 5:53 PM
The Obama Administration will replace DATD with a new initiative:
DADS – Don’t Ask, Don’t Snorkle
Buy Danish on March 10, 2010 at 5:53 PM
macncheez on March 10, 2010 at 6:00 PM
Yeah that urban dictionary has brought up the need to specify exactly what kind of snorkeling Massa was trying.
If this Maxfield fella is a dwarf, he should be doubly p!ssed.
LevStrauss on March 10, 2010 at 6:00 PM
Can you imagine what Massa would’ve done if he was allowed to be OPENLY gay in the Navy, if this is what he did while being deep in the closet?
RBMN on March 10, 2010 at 6:00 PM
So, does Rahm wear a mask in the showers…?
d1carter on March 10, 2010 at 6:01 PM
+1000
joejm65 on March 10, 2010 at 6:01 PM
Michael Graham this morning on Imus In The Morning. Did Massa roll out the 10,000 Sailors can’t be wrong defense on Larry King Live?
Dr Evil on March 10, 2010 at 6:02 PM
a guy I work with is taking snorkeling lessons, hhhhmmmmm
Colorado Anne on March 10, 2010 at 6:03 PM
What for ?
He has nothing to hide..afterall he is sparkly and penizzled
macncheez on March 10, 2010 at 6:03 PM
Well, I’ve got the first requirement covered, but I’m not in the south. Guess I’ll have to settle for the girls in the office harassing me.
JammieWearingFool on March 10, 2010 at 6:08 PM
Fredo, you’re my older brother, and I love you. But don’t ever take sides with anyone against the Family again. Ever.
TheBigOldDog on March 10, 2010 at 6:08 PM
If you’re a dwarf and live near a body of water run for your life.
LevStrauss on March 10, 2010 at 6:11 PM
Snorkel mask…
d1carter on March 10, 2010 at 6:11 PM
I think, what’s truly amazing, is how many people on this thread just take these accusations as fact. Given the circumstances, I don’t believe a word of it. You’re going to tell me this guy was on a ship, basically molesting fellow shipmates, and this is just coming out now? Seriously?
Not one person punched him? Not one person reported it? All of this just magically comes out immediately after he votes against Obama on his two most important agendas.
You’re all much more naive than I suspected.
Gregor on March 10, 2010 at 6:12 PM
What’s next…
… tales of Massa feltching?
Seven Percent Solution on March 10, 2010 at 6:14 PM
Because they protect their own. Why do you think Rangel is on a “leave of absence?”
The Race Card on March 10, 2010 at 6:17 PM
In your case, one can only hope.
The Race Card on March 10, 2010 at 6:17 PM
Is Massa’s Chief of Staff going to come forward?
d1carter on March 10, 2010 at 6:19 PM
They want it out now “The Allegations” Massa resigned there won’t be an investigation so nothing to make any “Republican Political Ads With” they don’t want this kind of stuff coming out near November Elections. Do you remember Foley? He hurt the Republican Party, more than only losing his own seat so you can think it is the health insurance reform bill…but more than likely Rahm Emanuel was doing some house keeping. This is Early March, better to have this Massa story in the news cycle now NOT fresh coming up on the November 2010 Elections.
Dr Evil on March 10, 2010 at 6:22 PM
a guy I work with is taking snorkeling lessons, hhhhmmmmm
Colorado Anne on March 10, 2010 at 6:03 PM
**Gulp!** I’d be suspicious!
TheAudacityofNOPE on March 10, 2010 at 6:23 PM
Please. That’s embarrassing. So now, after all this time, the Democrats are cleaning house and outing those in their party who are corrupt.
Excuse me while I go vomit.
Yeah, you suggest this, one week after Rangel gets a pass.
Are you people even listening to yourselves?
Gregor on March 10, 2010 at 6:25 PM
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