Rasmussen: 57% think ObamaCare will damage economy

posted at 12:52 pm on March 9, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

The White House promised a “hard pivot” to jobs and the economy almost three months ago, attempting to put the ObamaCare debate on the back burner after the holidays.  They had belatedly discovered that the electorate was much more concerned about the economic plunge than in retooling a health-care system that works for most Americans now.  Instead of the hard pivot, Democrats have doubled down on ObamaCare — and the latest Rasmussen survey shows that a strong majority believe it to be the wrong direction on both issues:

Fifty-seven percent (57%) of voters say the health care reform plan now working its way through Congress will hurt the U.S. economy.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just 25% think the plan will help the economy. But only seven percent (7%) say it will have no impact. Twelve percent (12%) aren’t sure.

Two-out-of-three voters (66%) also believe the health care plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats is likely to increase the federal deficit. That’s up six points from late November and comparable to findings just after the contentious August congressional recess. Ten percent (10%) say the plan is more likely to reduce the deficit and 14% say it will have no impact on the deficit.

Underlying this concern is a lack of trust in the government numbers. Eighty-one percent (81%) believe it is at least somewhat likely that the health care reform plan will cost more than official estimates. That number includes 66% who say it is very likely that the official projections understate the true cost of the plan.

Only a plurality of Democrats believe that the bill will help the economy (43%), while 89% of Republicans and 61% of independents think it will damage it.

Politically, the Democrats have the worst of all worlds.  Not only do they look out of touch for spending all of their efforts on a plan that is deeply unpopular with voters, they now are seen as actively damaging the economy.  The deficit spending alone would be enough to send voters heading for the exits, but the increased costs are even worse.  Seventy-eight percent of all respondents believe that middle-class tax increases will come as a result of ObamaCare, with almost two-thirds (65%) believing that to be “very likely.”  Fifty-eight percent of Democrats expect middle-class tax increases, which shows how effective Obama has been in selling this plan.

What’s the biggest problem with ObamaCare?  Majorities of all political affiliations agree: the cost.    Hardly anyone believes the cost estimates.  When asked whether the bill would exceed its cost estimates, 93% of Republicans, 70% of Democrats, and 80% of independents thought it at least somewhat likely — with 88% of Republicans and 73% of independents calling it “very likely.”  Only 20% of Democrats thought it unlikely.  Again, this looks like a big failure of the Obama administration’s efforts to sell the package as a cost containment program.

Democrats now face the prospect of using arcane parliamentary tricks to pass a bill that has minimal support, one that most voters believe will damage the economy, cost more than advertised, and prompt sweeping tax increases, all while ignoring the issues of a damaged economy while attempting to make it worse.  If they think that’s a winning strategy for the midterms, they need new leadership — and after the electoral disaster coming, they’ll probably be forced to get it.


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Only 57%?

That’s pretty scary.

Tony737 on March 9, 2010 at 12:55 PM

It is designed to hurt the economy!

daesleeper on March 9, 2010 at 12:55 PM

They.Don’t.Care.

ladyingray on March 9, 2010 at 12:55 PM

and after the electoral disaster coming, they’ll probably be forced to get it.

This upcoming election in November will really let us know if a majority of voters want to have a properporous future for this country.

WashJeff on March 9, 2010 at 12:57 PM

Government toilet seat – $500
Military claw hammer – $200
Free Obamacare – Priceless

Laura in Maryland on March 9, 2010 at 12:57 PM

Daesleeper and I agree, the destruction of our way of life is a feature to Obama, not a bug.

bbz123 on March 9, 2010 at 12:57 PM

MSM: 57% of the country is stupid and be ignored, especially by Congress.

fiatboomer on March 9, 2010 at 12:57 PM

Seventy-eight percent of all respondents believe that middle-class tax increases will come as a result of ObamaCare,

78%, now that’s more like it.

Tony737 on March 9, 2010 at 12:58 PM

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just 25% think the plan will help the economy

So a baseline of 25% of American voters are incredibly stupid.

rbj on March 9, 2010 at 12:58 PM

I’ve been assured by the president himself, that I will love ObamaCare as soon as it is passed.

myrenovations on March 9, 2010 at 12:58 PM

Over 70% want the bill stopped, or started over from scratch.

Do you think the people in Washington–at least on the Dem side–care about this poll either?

Enoxo on March 9, 2010 at 12:59 PM

Did anyone else get their letter telling them to look for the Census coming in the mail soon? My head nearly exploded… millions of tax dollars for a “Save the Date” for the Census? Are you “expletive” kidding me?

Sorry, I know this has nothing to do with healthcare, but it shows the ignorance of our government leaders just the same.

truetexan on March 9, 2010 at 1:00 PM

Thee most expensive FREE care in the world. Wheeeeeeeeeee!!!

What does it matter what polls say! Anything they want to shove down our throats, or up our arses…they’ll pass. They don’t give a flying fig what we want, or don’t want. It’s not about us, it’s about them.

capejasmine on March 9, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Only 57%?

That’s pretty scary.

Tony737 on March 9, 2010 at 12:55 PM

Not really when you consider what the MSM and politicians have fed American the last few decades. That being the government needs to take care of us all and there is little financial consequences of doing so, probably even beneficial.

WashJeff on March 9, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Question…if reconciliation has been used so many times and mostly by Republicans, did the final bills have votes from both parties? The fact that they are willing to have zero participation from Republicans says everything you need to know about the goal.

Cindy Munford on March 9, 2010 at 1:01 PM

So a baseline of 25% of American voters are incredibly stupid.

rbj on March 9, 2010 at 12:58 PM

I’d say that’s a bit low; more like 30-35% IMO.

Dark-Star on March 9, 2010 at 1:01 PM

If they think that’s a winning strategy for the midterms, they need new leadership — and after the electoral disaster coming, they’ll probably be forced to get it.

I don’t think they care about 2010. Obama seems intent on collapsing America. No one can be this blind or inept.

darwin on March 9, 2010 at 1:02 PM

OT: the libs are trying to storm the Ritz Carlton where Health Care providers are meeting. Purple shirts everywhere. Trying to perform “citizen arrests” on the insurance executives. BHO is getting his wish…

d1carter on March 9, 2010 at 1:02 PM

Did anyone else get their letter telling them to look for the Census coming in the mail soon? My head nearly exploded… millions of tax dollars for a “Save the Date” for the Census? Are you “expletive” kidding me?

Sorry, I know this has nothing to do with healthcare, but it shows the ignorance of our government leaders just the same.

truetexan on March 9, 2010 at 1:00 PM

Yip, and it’s sad. I wouldn’t use that letter to wipe a dogs butt. Waste, waste, waste!

capejasmine on March 9, 2010 at 1:02 PM

Now can the media show this graph from CBO’s project GDP growth if Paul Ryan’s plan is implemented as is. Do you support this America?

WashJeff on March 9, 2010 at 1:03 PM

This upcoming election in November will really let us know if a majority of voters want to have a properporous future for this country.

WashJeff on March 9, 2010 at 12:57 PM

I pray we make it until November. I fear we will not.

Knucklehead on March 9, 2010 at 1:03 PM

just 25% think the plan will help the economy.

These 25% need to be asked: HOW?

[That is, during a commercial break for American Idol]

Chip on March 9, 2010 at 1:03 PM

This just goes to show that Obama hasn’t communicated well enough on this issue, because people just don’t understand.

/HusseinMode

KeepOhioRed on March 9, 2010 at 1:04 PM

This whole debacle reminds me of “Weekend at Bernies” with the bill taking the place of Bernie and democrats are his house guests.

Mord on March 9, 2010 at 1:04 PM

capejasmine on March 9, 2010 at 1:02 PM

Maybe we should have a Census “Save the date” letter party on the steps of Congress? I think it is time to head up to DC again!

truetexan on March 9, 2010 at 1:04 PM

Photo Caption:

“First there was the Para-Olympics. Then there was the Special Olympics. Now, we have the Presi-Olympics.”

BobMbx on March 9, 2010 at 1:05 PM

I don’t think they care about 2010. Obama seems intent on collapsing America. No one can be this blind or inept.

darwin on March 9, 2010 at 1:02 PM

Wouldn’t it be nice if Democrats cared more about their country, then their party? Some could take the reins, and start to block this crap, and the destruction of their nation. Get votes together, and dethrone Pelosi. Put the people , and their country first. They’d be lauded as heroes.

But as it is, they seem to want to willingly walk over the cliff, and lose everything. Because when this is over, there are going to be a lot of angry Americans, hot on their tails.

capejasmine on March 9, 2010 at 1:05 PM

Oh look! A poll!

Why do we keep getting these stories? Is constant validation that a populace whose whims used to be derided (“i dont govern according to polls”) agrees with you really that necessary?

ernesto on March 9, 2010 at 1:05 PM

Maybe we should have a Census “Save the date” letter party on the steps of Congress? I think it is time to head up to DC again!

truetexan on March 9, 2010 at 1:04 PM

I haven’t been, but would love to go!

capejasmine on March 9, 2010 at 1:05 PM

OT: the libs are trying to storm the Ritz Carlton where Health Care providers are meeting. Purple shirts everywhere. Trying to perform “citizen arrests” on the insurance executives. BHO is getting his wish…

d1carter on March 9, 2010 at 1:02 PM

I just watched it. Police barricades are being set up…..they are nervous.

When was the last time that happened at a Tea Party/

Knucklehead on March 9, 2010 at 1:06 PM

I pray we make it until November. I fear we will not.

Knucklehead on March 9, 2010 at 1:03 PM

If ObamaCare passes, it will take two elections and some time afterwards to find the answer to this question. If ObamaCare does not pass this year, the 2010 election will suffice.

WashJeff on March 9, 2010 at 1:06 PM

Yeah watching the Ritz mob right now. Arrests happening already.

Mord on March 9, 2010 at 1:08 PM

The Dems would be happy……..and would the GOP too?……to see the sucka just collapse?

I’m referring to the entire economy.

Just think if it did collapse wouldn’t there be a LOUD ROAR of citizens wanting the FEDGOV to step in (ala FDR in 1933) and takeover everything………thus assuring entrenched power grows for those in charge?

PappyD61 on March 9, 2010 at 1:09 PM

I just watched it. Police barricades are being set up…..they are nervous.

Knucklehead on March 9, 2010 at 1:06 PM

Somebody needs to invent a mace-spraying mecha for crowd control.

Dark-Star on March 9, 2010 at 1:09 PM

“Everything is going acording to plan…” – George Soros

“Yessss, my master.” – Barack Obowma

Seven Percent Solution on March 9, 2010 at 1:09 PM

OT: the libs are trying to storm the Ritz Carlton where Health Care providers are meeting. Purple shirts everywhere. Trying to perform “citizen arrests” on the insurance executives. BHO is getting his wish…

d1carter on March 9, 2010 at 1:02 PM

The violence inherent in the Left. Brown Shirts in the 1930s are now the Purple Shirts of 2009-10

rbj on March 9, 2010 at 1:10 PM

Democrats now face the prospect of using arcane parliamentary tricks to pass a bill that has minimal support

If it passes the House, the President will sign it and there is no way they will send it back to the Senate for Reconciliation. Why would the Senate change a bill they like. The damage is done if the house passes the senate bill. It’s o v e r

hmfearny on March 9, 2010 at 1:10 PM

I haven’t been, but would love to go!

capejasmine on March 9, 2010 at 1:05 PM

I drove up for the protest Michelle B organized. It was refreshing! I just tried to call Webb’s office and couldn’t get through or leave a message. Shocka!

truetexan on March 9, 2010 at 1:11 PM

Question…if reconciliation has been used so many times and mostly by Republicans, did the final bills have votes from both parties?
Cindy Munford on March 9, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Yes.

The donks have already written off the 2010 midterms. They need to get this structure in place so it can then be amended in the future to eventually get us to single payer after the insurance companies go down when employers opt to dump employee insurance and pay the fines. The donks are playing the long game on this.

a capella on March 9, 2010 at 1:11 PM

The damage is done if the house passes the senate bill. It’s o v e r

hmfearny on March 9, 2010 at 1:10 PM

Agreed. All hopes are on the house now; the next step should it pass will be a rubber-stamping.

Dark-Star on March 9, 2010 at 1:11 PM

“The Humpty Dance, here’s yo’ chance…”

rogerb on March 9, 2010 at 1:13 PM

These 25% need to be asked: HOW?

[That is, during a commercial break for American Idol] – Chip

So true man, that crap is turning brains into mush!

Tony737 on March 9, 2010 at 1:14 PM

If they think that’s a winning strategy for the midterms, they need new leadership — and after the electoral disaster coming, they’ll probably be forced to get it.

I don’t see why? They are willing to run, full speed, off the ObamaCare cliff. Those Dems that are left standing will be from the far left. They will think that the leadership did a great job. They still have their Congressional or Senatorial seat.

PappaMac on March 9, 2010 at 1:15 PM

Instead of the hard pivot, Democrats have doubled down on ObamaCare

It was a good hard 360 degree pivot.

forest on March 9, 2010 at 1:15 PM

“Everything is going acording to plan…” – George Soros

“Yessss, my master.” – Barack Obowma – Seven

HilaaaaAAAAAaaaariousssss! But I must add … RAAAAAACIST!

Tony737 on March 9, 2010 at 1:16 PM

Seven Percent Solution on March 9, 2010 at 1:09 PM

That’s gay.

donkichi on March 9, 2010 at 1:17 PM

Oh, you people are just not smart enough to understand the genius of this plan!

search4truth on March 9, 2010 at 1:17 PM

Why do we keep getting these stories? Is constant validation that a populace whose whims used to be derided (”i dont govern according to polls”) agrees with you really that necessary?

ernesto on March 9, 2010 at 1:05 PM

Massa told his constituents he would vote for single payer health insurance in spite of overwhelming constituent dissent. He would vote his mind in spite of what they wanted. Is that what you mean?

a capella on March 9, 2010 at 1:17 PM

Poll: 43% of Americans are either economic illiterates, blithering idiots, Obama supporters, societal dropouts or some combination of the four.

Good Lt on March 9, 2010 at 1:18 PM

Politically, the Democrats have the worst of all worlds.  Not only do they look out of touch for spending all of their efforts on a plan that is deeply unpopular with voters, they now are seen as actively damaging the economy.

Hey, the far-left National Socialist wingbats of the Democrat party have a two-fer: Piss people off for tight societal controls based on healthcare AND ruin the economy at the same time!

Why be inefficient and institute tight controls on everyone’s life with just one bill and destroy the economy with another – Just have one to do both!

Aren’t we so blessed to have such wonderful rulers?

Chip on March 9, 2010 at 1:19 PM

1. Suck all capital out of the private sector.

2. Increase taxes and regulations.

3. Take over 1/6 of the economy with hell-care.

4. Amnesty for 30 million illegals.

5. Put 30 million new citizens in the overburdened health care system.

I think the plan by the fascists in control of the federal government is pretty clear, utter destruction of the economy.

jukin on March 9, 2010 at 1:20 PM

Oh look! A poll!

Why do we keep getting these stories? Is constant validation that a populace whose whims used to be derided (”i dont govern according to polls”) agrees with you really that necessary?

ernesto on March 9, 2010 at 1:05 PM

You seem sensitive about this.

No one is suggesting the poll is necessarily for some sort of validation, but this site is a popular hangout for political junkies, and HCR is a pretty big topic on that front, and we are — in theory at least — a representative republic.

The onus, I think should fall to you: Why do you think this poll shouldn’t be posted?

BlueCollarAstronaut on March 9, 2010 at 1:20 PM

Question…if reconciliation has been used so many times and mostly by Republicans, did the final bills have votes from both parties? The fact that they are willing to have zero participation from Republicans says everything you need to know about the goal.

Cindy Munford on March 9, 2010 at 1:01 PM

From what I saw reported last week, the answer is yes. Last week, the MSM and Obama acolytes were chirping that reconciliation had been used by the GOP and Dems very frequently for things like Clinton’s welfare reform and for the Bush tax cuts. But someone doing some additional digging (that is, honest reporting) documented that when push came to shove on the final votes, the bills got fairly broad support from the “opposing” side–certainly nothing like the wholesale shutout as with Obamacare.

BuckeyeSam on March 9, 2010 at 1:22 PM

I’m become Alec Baldwin…

Just got off the phone with my wife. Told her I’m not sure this country will be livable or free in the next few years.

We should look into other options.

We know someone in the Virgin Islands. Anyone know how their laws differ from the mainland since they are a territory?

Looking out for my own future…

Dorvillian on March 9, 2010 at 1:22 PM

These 25% need to be asked: HOW?
[That is, during a commercial break for American Idol] – Chip
So true man, that crap is turning brains into mush!
Tony737 on March 9, 2010 at 1:14 PM

Yes, I do hang my head in shame that I even barely know what that is.

Chip on March 9, 2010 at 1:23 PM

Seventy-eight percent of all respondents believe that middle-class tax increases will come as a result of ObamaCare,

78%, now that’s more like it.

Tony737 on March 9, 2010 at 12:58 PM

Sigh, I already have to pay in; and it isn’t like we make that much money. It’s frustrating!

deidre on March 9, 2010 at 1:24 PM

Why do you think this poll shouldn’t be posted?

Well, because the poll is obviously racist.

And by racist, I mean doesn’t reflect well politically on the Administration.

Good Lt on March 9, 2010 at 1:28 PM

Good Lt on March 9, 2010 at 1:18 PM

I call them zombies for short.

donkichi on March 9, 2010 at 1:29 PM

So a baseline of 25% of American voters are incredibly stupid.
rbj on March 9, 2010 at 12:58 PM

Not really. I’ll bet that most of that 25% KNOW that this bill will screw the economy. They just don’t care. They’re sticking by their team no matter what. Intellectual dishonesty? You bet. Stupidity? Nah.

joejm65 on March 9, 2010 at 1:29 PM

And now I see on the headlines, Obama wants to ban fishing? Is he kidding? What in the hell? I’m sorry, but I’m getting angrier by the moment. My blood pressure is going up as I type. We need to stop this assault on our country, and we need to stop it NOW!!!

capejasmine on March 9, 2010 at 1:31 PM

42% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

factoid on March 9, 2010 at 1:32 PM

I’m sure that if Barry would just spend MORE TIME explaining his health care proposals, people would begin to see things his way. I’m also sure that Barry is working 24/7 to increase jobs in America. BTW, how much is the Tooth Fairy mandated to leave for a bicuspid? I only got a quarter.

GarandFan on March 9, 2010 at 1:35 PM

Increases in cost are not likely.

They are a drop dead certainty.

MarkTheGreat on March 9, 2010 at 1:36 PM

and after the electoral disaster coming, they’ll probably be forced to get it.

We need a new campaign slogan.

Return no Democrat to office. State, local, federal.

MarkTheGreat on March 9, 2010 at 1:38 PM

Not really. I’ll bet that most of that 25% KNOW that this bill will screw the economy. They just don’t care. They’re sticking by their team no matter what. Intellectual dishonesty? You bet. Stupidity? Nah.

joejm65 on March 9, 2010 at 1:29 PM

I’d add the 7% who see no change. Those are likely Kool-Aid drinkers too. I fault the 12% who “aren’t sure.” They don’t appear to be Kool-Aid drinkers, but they’re too lazy to undertake the minimal amount of analysis it takes to arrive at the conclusion that this is a trainwreck that they don’t want to experience.

Though I find 57% disappointing, as someone suggested above, given the MSM cheerleading for the past 40 years, that’s probably not a bad number, especially when some decent information, another 12% could be picked up in no time. This is not an idealogical issue at all; the math of Obamacare simply isn’t believable.

BuckeyeSam on March 9, 2010 at 1:40 PM

ernesto on March 9, 2010 at 1:05 PM

Still trying to convince yourself that you are relevant?

MarkTheGreat on March 9, 2010 at 1:41 PM

The onus, I think should fall to you: Why do you think this poll shouldn’t be posted?

BlueCollarAstronaut on March 9, 2010 at 1:20 PM

Aside from allowing conservatives to seek that precious validation, it doesn’t actually tell us anything. a) it is a statistical certainty that a large chunk of those responding know not of which they speak and b) most of those that at least have some level of political sophistication can still be swayed by question phrasing and other polling tricks. In other words, there’s no real information to glean from this…

ernesto on March 9, 2010 at 1:43 PM

b) most of those that at least have some level of political sophistication can still be swayed by question phrasing and other polling tricks. In other words, there’s no real information to glean from this…

ernesto on March 9, 2010 at 1:43 PM

Nailhead…that perfectly describes SO MANY political ‘polls’.

Dark-Star on March 9, 2010 at 1:44 PM

Only 57%?

That’s pretty scary.

Tony737 on March 9, 2010 at 12:55 PM

The strange thing is that it is so obviously damaging to the economy that whether they intend damage or not, the vast majority of that 57% (I believe a much higher percentage) think it is by design, it will hurt the Democrats for many, many years. They will not be trusted with any meaningful power on a national level.

whbates on March 9, 2010 at 1:46 PM

Aside from allowing conservatives to seek that precious validation, it doesn’t actually tell us anything. a) it is a statistical certainty that a large chunk of those responding know not of which they speak and b) most of those that at least have some level of political sophistication can still be swayed by question phrasing and other polling tricks. In other words, there’s no real information to glean from this…

ernesto on March 9, 2010 at 1:43 PM

Translation, everyone who disagrees with Obama is an idiot.

MarkTheGreat on March 9, 2010 at 1:46 PM

MarkTheGreat on March 9, 2010 at 1:46 PM

Your translator is broken, Mark.

Dark-Star on March 9, 2010 at 1:48 PM

Who needs an economy when you have free health care?

And isn’t “three hots and a cot” enough?

NoDonkey on March 9, 2010 at 1:51 PM

Translation, everyone who disagrees with Obama is an idiot.

MarkTheGreat on March 9, 2010 at 1:46 PM

More like, “a statistically significant portion of people who answer all polls are idiots, at least politically, and those that aren’t, are susceptible to changes in polling languages proven to produce variable results”. Doesn’t matter if the poll validates what i believe or not, a poll is a terrible way to judge anything.

ernesto on March 9, 2010 at 1:52 PM

Yeah watching the Ritz mob right now. Arrests happening already.

Mord on March 9, 2010 at 1:08 PM

Where are you watching this?

Jvette on March 9, 2010 at 1:56 PM

I have found this method most useful. If I don’t have anything constructive to add, or don’t like the subject matter on certain threads….I simply don’t comment. It’s very useful, rather than whining, and griping over whether a poll is valid, or not. :D

capejasmine on March 9, 2010 at 2:01 PM

I have found this method most useful. If I don’t have anything constructive to add, or don’t like the subject matter on certain threads….I simply don’t comment.

capejasmine on March 9, 2010 at 2:01 PM

Seems like you don’t follow your own method very strictly.

Mord, what channel are you watching the liberal-looney mob on?

Dark-Star on March 9, 2010 at 2:02 PM

b) most of those that at least have some level of political sophistication can still be swayed by question phrasing and other polling tricks. In other words, there’s no real information to glean from this…
ernesto on March 9, 2010 at 1:43 PM

Nailhead…that perfectly describes SO MANY political ‘polls’.
Dark-Star on March 9, 2010 at 1:44 PM

Oh jeez…. troll sex. Get a room.

bloviator on March 9, 2010 at 2:05 PM

Rahm, The magnificent One and Axelrod were seen near Congressional Gym this morning, right after this poll came out. I thought they would be busy talking to democrat house reps to convince them to support ObamaScare. But why would they be spotted near the Gym? Does anybody know where they are?

antisocial on March 9, 2010 at 2:05 PM

Oh jeez…. troll sex. Get a room.

bloviator on March 9, 2010 at 2:05 PM

Oh jeez, more baseless wingnut innuendo. Get a life.

Dark-Star on March 9, 2010 at 2:08 PM

Costa Rica is looking better by the hour.

BHO Jonestown on March 9, 2010 at 2:15 PM

Obama: 57% percent of the people are so stupid that I must keep making speeches until they understand that healthcare reform is what’s best for them. Dolts.

Mallard T. Drake on March 9, 2010 at 2:21 PM

It’s not about healthcare. It’s about permanently enlarging the size of government. Permanently increasing the dependency on government.

C’mon, snap out of it!!!

Pablo Snooze on March 9, 2010 at 2:24 PM

Aside from allowing conservatives to seek that precious validation, it doesn’t actually tell us anything. a) it is a statistical certainty that a large chunk of those responding know not of which they speak and b) most of those that at least have some level of political sophistication can still be swayed by question phrasing and other polling tricks. In other words, there’s no real information to glean from this…

ernesto on March 9, 2010 at 1:43 PM

If that’s your honest reading, then I guess that’s fair enough, but I think some questions still remain: Is this poll any different from every other poll in this regard? Do you feel the need to post the same type of response whenever those polls are published?

If you go around posting “Oh look! A poll!” on every website posting that you deem a worthless poll, then I imagine you’re quite busy (albeit consistent). If you don’t, then I’m curious why you responded like that in this case.

Your responses so far have seemed quite sensitive: referencing conservatives’ “precious validation” (ad hominem?) and rank cynicism regarding the pollees’ awareness and knowledge.

BlueCollarAstronaut on March 9, 2010 at 2:25 PM

Did anyone else get their letter telling them to look for the Census coming in the mail soon? My head nearly exploded… millions of tax dollars for a “Save the Date” for the Census? Are you “expletive” kidding me?

Sorry, I know this has nothing to do with healthcare, but it shows the ignorance of our government leaders just the same.

truetexan on March 9, 2010 at 1:00 PM

I got that crap in the mail yesterday, I couldn’t believe it either. I wouldn’t be surprised if we all got a personal telephone call too.

There’s no end to their waste.

citrus on March 9, 2010 at 2:27 PM

…this looks like a big failure of the Obama administration’s efforts to sell the package as a cost containment program.

Fairly hard to do when it AIN’T.

Bob's Kid on March 9, 2010 at 2:29 PM

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just 25% think the plan will help the economy
So a baseline of 25% of American voters are incredibly stupid.

rbj on March 9, 2010 at 12:58 PM

No, 75% of us just haven’t heard enough ObamaCare speeches yet.

PatMac on March 9, 2010 at 2:30 PM

BlueCollarAstronaut on March 9, 2010 at 2:25 PM

I’ve actually made a habit of commenting as such at every poll thread…and yes I’m insanely cynical about polling and public opinion in general. This cynicism comes from having actually taken a few classes on polling, public opinion, and elections. When you take a look at the sort of theoretical models that underlie the polling and public opinion work done by pollsters and academics, it becomes increasingly difficult not to wonder how our system even works in the first place. Accepted levels of political sophistication are dismal, but unanimous. All the polling science heavyweights spent their careers trying to explain how such a dense, unaware populous can have a functioning republic. Most of them agree that elites and the media basically lead us all by the nose. See why I’m so cynical?

ernesto on March 9, 2010 at 2:47 PM

ernesto on March 9, 2010 at 1:43 PM

The vast majority of Americans know just as much about health care as Barack Obama does (zilch), so why aren’t they just as qualified as he is to have an opinion?

Since nothing in Obama’s track record suggests he knows how to help the economy, there’s a sound argument to be made that anything this incompetent jackass and his circus clown “administration” does is going to hurt the economy.

NoDonkey on March 9, 2010 at 2:48 PM

All the polling science heavyweights spent their careers trying to explain how such a dense, unaware populous can have a functioning republic. Most of them agree that elites and the media basically lead us all by the nose.

ernesto on March 9, 2010 at 2:47 PM

Yep. The long and short of it is that America has the best leadership that money can buy…corporate sellouts, Communists, and crackpots of all kinds.

The vast majority of Americans know just as much about health care as Barack Obama does (zilch), so why aren’t they just as qualified as he is to have an opinion?

Um, they are just as qualified (not at all)… thus their opinions are just equally ignorable.

Dark-Star on March 9, 2010 at 2:54 PM

Seems like you don’t follow your own method very strictly.

Dark-Star on March 9, 2010 at 2:02 PM

Actually she does have something usefull to say. Only it wasn’t about the polls. It was about the trolls who try to hijack threads about polls.

MarkTheGreat on March 9, 2010 at 3:18 PM

Dark-Star on March 9, 2010 at 2:54 PM

One of these days I will figure out why people having money is so upseting to D-S. Or maybe he’s just upset that some people have more money than he does.

MarkTheGreat on March 9, 2010 at 3:20 PM

One of these days I will figure out why people having money is so upseting to D-S. Or maybe he’s just upset that some people have more money than he does.

MarkTheGreat on March 9, 2010 at 3:20 PM

You’ll figure that out at the same time you realize you’re an unpaid lobbyist for the uber-rich who don’t give a rip about you – the same as politicians – except for however much of YOUR MONEY they can wring out of you by whatever means.

Dark-Star on March 9, 2010 at 3:23 PM

You’ll figure that out at the same time you realize you’re an unpaid lobbyist for the uber-rich who don’t give a rip about you – the same as politicians – except for however much of YOUR MONEY they can wring out of you by whatever means.

Dark-Star on March 9, 2010 at 3:23 PM

So anyone who disagrees with you is just an unpaid lobbiest.

And of course the way to prevent corporations from buying govt power, is to give govt even more power.

And to think, you actually believe your brain works.

I’m still trying to understand why D-S hates it when people are allowed to have more money than he does.

MarkTheGreat on March 9, 2010 at 3:50 PM

Anybody who uses expressions like “uber-rich” has proven that he has no connection with reality.

MarkTheGreat on March 9, 2010 at 3:51 PM

So anyone who disagrees with you is just an unpaid lobbiestlobbyist.

Control+F

“anyone who disagrees with me is an unpaid lobbyist”

“! Phrase not found”

Anybody who uses expressions like “uber-rich” has proven that he has no connection with reality.

MarkTheGreat on March 9, 2010 at 3:51 PM

(source needed)

…or is your self-proclaimed ‘greatness’ all the validation needed for whatever comes out of your fat mouth?

Dark-Star on March 9, 2010 at 3:55 PM

I’m still trying to understand why D-S hates it when people are allowed to have more money than he does.

MarkTheGreat on March 9, 2010 at 3:50 PM

Bitterness

Aviator on March 9, 2010 at 3:56 PM

Bitterness

Aviator on March 9, 2010 at 3:56 PM

From the rich being able to buy our representatives and lead our culture by the nose, yes.

Dark-Star on March 9, 2010 at 4:00 PM

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