Oh my: 68% now oppose passing ObamaCare without Republican support
posted at 8:24 pm on March 9, 2010 by Allahpundit
There’s no trendline in the AP’s story so let’s see if we can make our own. Two weeks ago, Gallup found a 39/52 split opposed to reconciliation; on the same day, Fox News found just 34 percent wanted Obama to pass the bill without GOP support versus 59 percent who thought he should start over if no compromise was possible. Since then, The One’s mumbled about the Olympic spirit, declared — for maybe the fifth time since last year — that the time for talk was over, and hit the road to demand an “up or down” vote on a bill that the public hates because he owes that to the public.
Looks like his hard work paid off. The needle appears to have moved.
A new Associated Press-GfK Poll finds a widespread hunger for improvements to the health care system, which suggests President Barack Obama and his Democratic allies have a political opening to push their plan. Half of all Americans say health care should be changed a lot or “a great deal,” and only 4 percent say it shouldn’t be changed at all…
More than four in five Americans say it’s important that any health care plan have support from both parties. And 68 percent say the president and congressional Democrats should keep trying to cut a deal with Republicans rather than pass a bill with no GOP support…
Many of his allies are baffled, because Americans clearly want change, and some of the individual components of the Democrats’ health care agenda seem popular. Moreover, the public has not embraced the Republicans’ overall approach to legislating, giving lower approval ratings to GOP lawmakers than to Democrats, although both parties fare badly.
Just 27 percent want Democrats to ram it through. Do note that the question here is slightly different than in the Gallup and Fox News polls. Theoretically, the AP’s sample might support reconciliation eventually, if further attempts at compromise with the GOP failed. But that’s academic: There aren’t going to be any further attempts, and frankly I’m skeptical that many who oppose reconciliation now would come around to it down the line. After nine months of this garbage, who seriously believes that just a little more effort at detente will break the impasse? If you don’t want them to go it alone now, you don’t want them to go it alone period, so wavering Dems will simply have to swallow that 68-percent figure. Good luck, kids.
Exit question: Just 24 percent of Democrats are “very enthusiastic” to vote in November compared to 42 percent of Republicans. If this travesty passes, which figure will see more movement? Remember, the left is counting on ObamaCare to goose turnout.
Update: Scott Rasmussen and Douglas Schoen ponder why Obama can’t move the numbers on health care. Can’t he? They seem to have moved here.
One reason may be that he keeps talking about details of the proposal while voters are looking at the issue in a broader context. Polling conducted earlier this week shows that 57% of voters believe that passage of the legislation would hurt the economy, while only 25% believe it would help. That makes sense in a nation where most voters believe that increases in government spending are bad for the economy…
But the bigger problem is that people simply don’t trust the official projections. People in Washington may live and die by the pronouncements of the Congressional Budget Office, but 81% of voters say it’s likely the plan will end up costing more than projected. Only 10% say the official numbers are likely to be on target…
The final piece of the puzzle is that the overwhelming majority of voters have insurance coverage, and 76% rate their own coverage as good or excellent. Half of these voters say it’s likely that if the congressional health bill becomes law, they would be forced to switch insurance coverage—a prospect hardly anyone ever relishes. These numbers have barely moved for months: Nothing the president has said has reassured people on this point.









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At least that ridiculous ‘bipartisanship’ facade has FINALLY been tossed.
Dark-Star on March 9, 2010 at 8:26 PM
didn’t you say 60% was the end?
rob verdi on March 9, 2010 at 8:26 PM
Many on the left don’t care–they want their historic win and will eat a mid-term loss if that’s what it takes.
David Mickelson on March 9, 2010 at 8:27 PM
OT for the Kiss of Death:
Congratulations, upcoming Senator Kirk–even though I hate your guts for Crap-n-Tax.
Enoxo on March 9, 2010 at 8:28 PM
Obama doesn’t look at polls…he just checks with the voices in his head.
AUINSC on March 9, 2010 at 8:28 PM
Don’t forget passing ‘reform’ that is nothing more than a disguised triple-cross.
Dark-Star on March 9, 2010 at 8:29 PM
What country did Rush say he will get his health care from if this passes? Was it Costa Rica?
lavell12 on March 9, 2010 at 8:29 PM
If my little cube rows at work are any indication of overall voter mood – the democrats are in BIG trouble
gophergirl on March 9, 2010 at 8:29 PM
Clearly the answer you’re looking for (and the right answer) is the GOP number, moving ever upward. But the bigger wave would be the rush of moderates/independents/libertarians to the polls to join the Republicans in ousting the Democrats from every seat possible.
LastRick on March 9, 2010 at 8:29 PM
Obama needs a Hirohito moment when he goes on the air and he speaks to his fellow leftists and says” We must endure the unendurable and start over.”
rob verdi on March 9, 2010 at 8:30 PM
Yep. I recall after the recent Oscars someone, maybe MelissaTweets, wondering where all the usual crowing from the Left was in the acceptance speeches. I think the same goes for the general population — I don’t hear my liberal/progressive friends strutting about lately. This November may be absolutely crushing.
LastRick on March 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM
Just think: in mid-January, that number was probably a lot lower… and Scott Brown still won in Massachusetts by five points.
November will be a bloodbath. The only question is whether Democrats are willing to sacrifice their political careers for the sake of Obama’s legacy. I’m sceptical.
Roxeanne de Luca on March 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM
All my lefty buddies roll out this one. “Well all the individual items are popular.”
So I ask them if they think a free pizza would poll well.
Then I ask them how a free pizza followed by 100 kicks to the genitals would poll in comparison.
Chuck Schick on March 9, 2010 at 8:32 PM
Dude. Does this change Stupak and his gang? Does this make it harder for Stupak to go along even with the promise of a “patch”? With nearly 70% against reconciliation, what difference does it make if the House is happy with a Bill ‘A’ Bill ‘B’ scenario? Seems to me it’s either the House signs on to the Senate bill or nothing.
Weight of Glory on March 9, 2010 at 8:34 PM
Watermelloo!
chickasaw42 on March 9, 2010 at 8:35 PM
What a great time to pivot towards jobs. Or not.
Bishop on March 9, 2010 at 8:37 PM
Correct. Even if the Democrats are in the political wilderness for a generation (or more), their mission would be accomplished – the 100 year dream of creating a statist/socialist government that shreds the Constitutional Republic and takes away our freedom. As Andy McCarthy (I think) so eloquently and frighteningly put it a two-party one-party political system that will never be dismantled by the elective process where we become a nation hooked on entitlements forever.
G-d help us.
J.J. Sefton on March 9, 2010 at 8:37 PM
Brutal numbers. Pass this bill Dems and you might as well drink the hemlock.
conservative pilgrim on March 9, 2010 at 8:37 PM
But everyday Obama, Pelosi, Reid, the LSM and the DNC keep telling us that most Americans want their Healthcare bill.
Someone’s not telling the truth here! *wink*
sarahpalinfan99 on March 9, 2010 at 8:38 PM
Maybe the GOP should go to another voodoo re-animation summit to help these people feel better knowing that the GOP doesn’t consider this legislation DEAD … Hotair thinks that’s the way to go. Have to be nice to the retard Precedent … Don’t want people to think that the GOP is trying to obstruct the worst, most desructive, most anti-Maerican legislation ever to come through Congress …
neurosculptor on March 9, 2010 at 8:39 PM
The better question (even though we know the answer) is why do the dems dis the American public so much?
r keller on March 9, 2010 at 8:39 PM
I don’t know about that, the public has been getting soured on I-Can’t-Believe-it’s-Not-Dead-yet-Care for months now – maybe the donks should listen for once.
Chip on March 9, 2010 at 8:40 PM
Well,that means the Hopey/Changey Titanic,is
68%,under da water,unless the Republican Party
supplies the life boats!!
canopfor on March 9, 2010 at 8:40 PM
Unexpectedly,
Bruno Strozek on March 9, 2010 at 8:40 PM
It’s just another sign that the commoners still don’t understand – more speeches! More TV Prime Time!
tru2tx on March 9, 2010 at 8:40 PM
Considering what the bills have in them do you blame the people.
chemman on March 9, 2010 at 8:42 PM
BHO needs to get out of the White House more and do some ObamCare campaigning…yeah, that should do it.
d1carter on March 9, 2010 at 8:42 PM
Obama is Custer,in Hopeys Last Stand,
in,Barrack’s Battle of the Little Bighorn
HealthCare Battle!!
canopfor on March 9, 2010 at 8:43 PM
LOL!
ctmom on March 9, 2010 at 8:45 PM
If they make him join the govt run healthcare beauracracy, aka deathcare, hecsaud he’d get his healthcare in Costa Rica. He didn’t say he’d move there as the SRM has reported.
conservative pilgrim on March 9, 2010 at 8:46 PM
Sounds like the results of The Great Healthcare Summit has filtered through to the polls.
Dusty on March 9, 2010 at 8:46 PM
Change
http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=19055
canopfor on March 9, 2010 at 8:47 PM
Seriously, I think the country is afraid of what this POTUS may do next…it’s like we have been on hold for a year.
d1carter on March 9, 2010 at 8:47 PM
hecsaud= he said
thanks iPhone auto edit. :-/
conservative pilgrim on March 9, 2010 at 8:47 PM
Even the far-left national socialist wacko wing of the democrat party know that it’s going to be difficult perpetrating an entitlement system if the economy collapses.
Chip on March 9, 2010 at 8:47 PM
How long until Obama starts giving 4 hour speches, pounding the desk Chavez style?
ThePrez on March 9, 2010 at 8:47 PM
speeches
ThePrez on March 9, 2010 at 8:48 PM
Obama doesn’t care. Pelosi doesn’t care. They have an opportunity to “fundamentally change” the United States and they will do it regardless of what the people want. It is treason. They should be arrested, tried, and shot.
Dale on March 9, 2010 at 8:48 PM
LOL. That’s a staggeringly low number to see in any poll other than for undecided.
Dusty on March 9, 2010 at 8:49 PM
Where are our lovely trolls this evening?
Knucklehead on March 9, 2010 at 8:49 PM
Maybe he should have focused on something more important like say the ECONOMY!
Chip on March 9, 2010 at 8:49 PM
Rubbing their filthy hands with glee, most likely. I wonder what’s going through Drywall’s head at the prospect of us ignorant Yankees having to live with Canadian-style healthcare.
Dark-Star on March 9, 2010 at 8:50 PM
Ha! :-D
Mary in LA on March 9, 2010 at 8:51 PM
It frequently seems as if there are 25-27% of poll respondents who seem to favor doing to most boneheaded thing in our country. Consistently, they’re Democrats—fancy that.
ted c on March 9, 2010 at 8:51 PM
Sounds like he needs to give another speech…
Oh wait, he is.
Enoxo on March 9, 2010 at 8:51 PM
to=the
duh
ted c on March 9, 2010 at 8:51 PM
Watermelloo!
chickasaw42 on March 9, 2010 at 8:35 PM
chickasaw42:)
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From Walt Dizzy
http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=19027
canopfor on March 9, 2010 at 8:52 PM
NO one listens to him, or cares any more what he says, or if he says anything at all.
They have figured him out to be what he always was, a windbag.
Schadenfreude on March 9, 2010 at 8:52 PM
Waterlooboarding: The repeated application of “Waterloo” stories followed by “Endgame” stories.
I’m pretty sure it’s against the Geneva Conventions.
29Victor on March 9, 2010 at 8:52 PM
I think The One was reading the book “how to be a President for Dummies” last year.
Electrongod on March 9, 2010 at 8:53 PM
Also, he lies a lot, and our people are not that stupid.
Schadenfreude on March 9, 2010 at 8:53 PM
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I’m not waiting for the Repubs to say it’s okay. It is insane to support any bill that is 2000 pages long… and that no one understands… and has the potential to destroy this country… and possibly put our freedom at risk.
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Small bites… Perhaps. But I do not trust any of them enough to support the back-room-deal gang (of 13 for instance) with sweeping change to an already good system that only needs to be tweaked.
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Kill the bill! Kill it while it’s down…
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RalphyBoy on March 9, 2010 at 8:54 PM
Wait it’s only 68%….so what’s the problem? It’s not like it’s a numbers problem after all…..
Maybe the Dem’s should conduct a poll using spendulus money. CNN or the NYT can do it…. Before they ask a question regarding ChairmanCare, they give the respondent $50 dollars THEN ASK whether they support it—viola! Poll data fixed!
Dick Turpin on March 9, 2010 at 8:55 PM
This American would particularly like to see about 450 examples of change in November. Start with the most radical Dems, and don’t stop until you run out of RINOs….
cthulhu on March 9, 2010 at 8:55 PM
…and naive and egocentric/arrogant as he is he thought it meant that we are the dummies…
Schadenfreude on March 9, 2010 at 8:55 PM
Rubbing their filthy hands with glee, most likely. I wonder what’s going through Drywall’s head at the prospect of us ignorant Yankees having to live with Canadian-style healthcare.
Dark-Star on March 9, 2010 at 8:50 PM
Dark-Star: That WroughtWall!!:)
canopfor on March 9, 2010 at 8:55 PM
If you live in a conservative district with a good congressman, call the neighboring district’s leftist congressman and tell them not to show their face back home if they vote for this communist scheme. Massa quit because he plans on living a peaceful life back in his district without hiding in his house.
Buddahpundit on March 9, 2010 at 8:56 PM
Ha! Let’s sue AP.
Weight of Glory on March 9, 2010 at 8:57 PM
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Yup, but he read it backwards and it became ‘how to be a Dummie President’… Which explains a lot.
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RalphyBoy on March 9, 2010 at 8:57 PM
Watermelloo!
chickasaw42 on March 9, 2010 at 8:35 PM
Ha! :-D
Mary in LA on March 9, 2010 at 8:51 PM
Mary in LA: I can`t help thinking,Cat Ballou
is mixed in here somewhere!!haha:)
canopfor on March 9, 2010 at 8:58 PM
:)
Electrongod on March 9, 2010 at 8:58 PM
Schadenfreude on March 9, 2010 at 8:53 PM
Great article, thanks for the link!
;^)
tru2tx on March 9, 2010 at 8:59 PM
Maybe even they have realized that we don’t want that turd of program -despite the fact that we’ve been telling them that for months now.
Either they’re holding their breath hoping the donks can Rahm it through or they know the battle is over and that Obowmao will have to find some other way of mucking up the country.
Chip on March 9, 2010 at 9:01 PM
Who really thinks that
Their health plan will not be changed
By this takeover?
Haiku Guy on March 9, 2010 at 9:01 PM
Hey where’s Jimbo3 to tell us Americans are all wrong about this? According to Jimbo the bill will actually do everything it says it will do. Just ask it.
Missy on March 9, 2010 at 9:07 PM
Power > Approval
PrincipledPilgrim on March 9, 2010 at 9:08 PM
The Dems will take the hit – because they know the Republicans will screw it up, soon enough. They all suck so, so bad.
Dork B. on March 9, 2010 at 9:08 PM
They don’t care…they will still ram this through.
truetexan on March 9, 2010 at 9:09 PM
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Rapidly approaching rock bottom… all that’s left is… SEUI members, the permanently entitled, those who were never proud of their country until last year, Chris Matthews, ACORN pimp assistants, and multi-generational Dems (with at least one of the other qualifiers living under their roof).
RalphyBoy on March 9, 2010 at 9:10 PM
There are a lot of reasons why the majority of Americans don’t want this bill to become law. For me, the number one reason has always been simply the potential of being fined or the threat of being incarcerated if I don’t want to participate in obtaining health care coverage.
You just don’t package a bill chock full mandates and expect people to feel that they’re getting more freedoms when in fact you’re attempting to incrementally take the individuals inalienable rights and freedoms to choose away.
Kill the Bill. It’s that simple. November IS getting closer.
Americannodash on March 9, 2010 at 9:10 PM
The more the Crats push, the harder the resistance. James 3 tells us that the wisdom that is from above is peaceable. Does the Democrat agenda sound like God’s healing wisdom for the nation?
paul1149 on March 9, 2010 at 9:11 PM
Same here in Hollywood. The Dems have gotten very quiet. No one wants to talk politics anymore.
John the Libertarian on March 9, 2010 at 9:11 PM
And this right here is what will keep Stupack from a yay. MUCH more to gain in a no, the reason behind it is moot.
Gatsu on March 9, 2010 at 9:13 PM
There is the midterm election.
There is the 2012 election.
There is the 2014 election.
It will take 4 1/2 years to purge the Senate!
Highplains on March 9, 2010 at 9:17 PM
52.3% BELIEVED Barry’s lies. Not so much now. He blew his cred on Porkulus. He keeps lying, they keep disbelieving.
GarandFan on March 9, 2010 at 9:19 PM
The trouble with poll results is that it’s impossible to detect sarcasm in the answers of those polled.
Sharke on March 9, 2010 at 9:24 PM
Ignore the above. I completely and utterly misread the title of this post. I actually thought it read that 68% supported passing the bill and in my indignation leaped for the keyboard without thinking.
Sharke on March 9, 2010 at 9:26 PM
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We go months at work without so much as a mention of the federal government… If I bring it up, I get blank stares. Nothing. The One’s name is never said out loud. During the GWB years, the President’s name was used in vain constantly. I suspect embarrassment and disappointment, or… like thieves in the night, silence is the rule. Either way, it makes work relationships less stressful so that’s one thing that Obaby has improved. Albeit, not intentionally.
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RalphyBoy on March 9, 2010 at 9:27 PM
Time to finally release Barry’s college transcripts! Folks would rally behind an inexperienced emotionally fragile genius… right?
BHO Jonestown on March 9, 2010 at 9:27 PM
Waterloo or endgame?
ted c on March 9, 2010 at 9:29 PM
Exactly!!! Right there!!! You hit the nail on the head!!! The public hates is, but he owes us. It’s pay back for being horrible people in a horrible nation. This is not a reward, it’s a punishment! Again….this bill has absolutely nothing to do with health care. It’s a means to an end, and a huge doorway to even bigger, and worse.
capejasmine on March 9, 2010 at 9:29 PM
The loudest proponents, Obama, Pelosi, and Reid, continue to lie and to say stupid things. Many of the non-leadership democratic caucus must be furious.
GaltBlvnAtty on March 9, 2010 at 9:31 PM
I can’t decide who I think is the bigger d-bag, Obozo or Gibsey.
txag92 on March 9, 2010 at 9:36 PM
Well…
… at least amnesty for illegals should make everyone happy.
Oh, wait!
Seven Percent Solution on March 9, 2010 at 9:40 PM
At this point, I’m just gonna say none of them, from Obama on down to the lowliest liberal in Congress is worth the skin that was wasted on them.
capejasmine on March 9, 2010 at 9:45 PM
Its your second point! Virtually everyone knows he is a pathetic LIAR!
We all have friends, family, coworkers who think they are the smartest person in the world and don’t hesitate to tell us how smart they are and we largely ignore or run from them.
Well with Pinnochio you have this but also a shameless liar who because of his affirmative action upbringing and his ability to divide and organize idiots does his level best to continue that which has worked so well for him.
However most Americans are not idiots at least not enough to believe that the government is here to solve their problems.
Pinnochio cannot tell us his true intentions which is to fundamentally transform America and give the lazy and ignorant the fruits of the producers labor making us all equally poor and beholden.
Pinnochio would enslave the workers to pay off the non-workers and he thinks he is honorable in doing so. He is and Islamic trained Marxist and in the world of Islam a lie is honorable if the cause is just.
The American people have turned him off and if this thing passes by a bare minimum of Dem votes there will be HELL to pay.
Tell your congress critters and Senate Scumbags:
There will be a hell far worse than a political bloodbath. They will become pariahs in there towns there communities not welcome in their churches, resturants or school gyms.
They will martyr themselves and their families good names for an Anti-American Marxist Community Organizer!
John McCain was terribly wrong and niave this man is doing his level best to destroy this country and there will be repercussions for any who assist him.
Tell the clowns this isn’t over! Tell them they are dangerously close to a fate worse than political suicide!
Do not give up , do not resign yourselves to the fact that this is a done deal!
That is exactly what he wants and exactly the tactic Alinsky teaches , wear the opposition down!
March in front of their offices and homes call, fax, email and write! Fight this thing now!
MAKE THE BASTARDS AFRAID!
dhunter on March 9, 2010 at 9:46 PM
And at the same time, he can renounce his divinity.
ajackson on March 9, 2010 at 9:47 PM
Nice. We went from ‘Endgame’ to ‘Waterloo’ in 24 hours. I’ll sleep better tonight. :-)
joejm65 on March 9, 2010 at 9:53 PM
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100309/D9EB9M1O0.html
It ain’t over! Here comes the Calvary! Now man the phones and drive by their homes and offices! March , call, fax and write.
MAKE THEM AFRAID, VERY AFRAID!
dhunter on March 9, 2010 at 9:57 PM
I called several Dems’ offices this week to ask their staffers about the individual mandate. One young twit told me that “it’s the same as Social Security tax”.
Ponder that for a moment, folks.
When I asked other staffers, “How is this mandate constitutional? How can you REQUIRE Americans to purchase something simply because they are breathing air?”
Most responses: “I can’t answer that question, ma’am.”
I responded by suggesting that maybe the Supreme Court can.
Grace_is_sufficient on March 9, 2010 at 10:01 PM
Striking similarity to Obama’s presidency…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI&feature=related
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Note the rest of the (dem) gang looking like dead men walking…
RalphyBoy on March 9, 2010 at 10:11 PM
5,000 Lakota with Sitting Bull
130? 7th Cavalry with General Custer
This is not going to end well for them.
Blacksmith8 on March 9, 2010 at 10:13 PM
dhunter on March 9, 2010 at 9:57 PM
Took them long enough. Hopefully not too little, too late.
txmomof6 on March 9, 2010 at 10:50 PM
OBAMACARE: Hokum change.
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on March 9, 2010 at 11:08 PM
They wouldn’t care if 100% were against it!
Star20 on March 9, 2010 at 11:22 PM
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