Glenn Beck: Sorry for wasting your time with Massa, America
posted at 7:42 pm on March 9, 2010 by Allahpundit
A complete debacle, and completely riveting. If you missed it, make time for Mediaite’s two highlight reels below. Glynnis MacNicol is spot on:
I think the short version is that the Massa that showed up at Glenn Beck’s desk is definitely not the Massa that was on the other end of Beck’s telephone yesterday. Something that began to be clear to Beck around the 20 minute mark, after Massa refused to get into specific about the corruption of the Dems generally, and Rahm Emanuel specifically. At about the 25 minute mark Glenn Beck starts getting mad. If you ever wondered what Glenn Beck looks like when he realized he’s been had that’s a good place to start.
Precisely. The big sell in having Massa on was that he was, supposedly, about to roll over on Pelosi, Hoyer, etc, for backroom dealings. Instead, this:
Beck finally says, “I don’t want to be a defender of the White House… is there anything SPECIFIC that you have?” Massa still can’t point to any specific examples of Democratic leadership arm-twisting or bullying. Massa finally tries to blame the House Whip for pressuring him to change his vote and likens it to bribery: “I don’t know how to be specific… Its called Whipping!”
Massa can’t seem to come up with any better examples.
Follow the Mediaite link and watch the “bullcrap” clip embedded there. When pressed on corruption, all he could do was blow smoke about how super-keen he thinks the tea party is, etc. In fact, not only didn’t he dish new dirt, he cleaned up some of the dirt he’d already dished: In the first clip below, he dismisses the suggestion that the Dems had forced him out unfairly for his behavior. “I forced myself out,” he says — i.e., he deserved to go. Good work, Massa.
Don’t miss him showing off his “crossing the line” scrapbook. A golden television moment, my friends. Exit question: What exactly was Massa’s goal here? He evidently BS-ed Beck with tall tales of corruption in order to land on the show … but to what end? So that he could mumble about “tickle fights” and pander transparently to Beck about his pet issues? At the very least, you’d expect him to claim he’s being railroaded and didn’t deserve to be pushed out, but he’s not even saying that. What’s the frequency, Kenneth?
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SNL created the Sarah Palin caricature out of whole cloth. This is the sort of thing that is right in their wheelhouse.
Caustic Conservative on March 9, 2010 at 9:46 PM
These type of conclusions are why all you’ll ever be is a anonymous beta male blogger.
You, just like MM and Ed, ASSUMED Beck was going to provide a smoking gun. In the first clip, there is NO claim by Beck that there was for sure a smoking gun. He simply presented the guys story and asked everyone to make up their minds as it went along.
We already know where you and Ed’s mind were the minute MM stuck her nose in it.
Ask yourself a question Allah….have you ever pulled off a stunt like Beck did with the boiled frog just to get a rise out of the opposition? Naw…you may tweak 100 people or so once in a blue moon, but Beck, like Rush, do it on a regular basis.
There is no way Beck wasn’t ready for that interview to go any which way it could have.
csdeven on March 9, 2010 at 9:47 PM
True. No argument from me.
I woudl offer an argument against this, though. My problems with the GOP going to the health care re-animation ritual were quite different from Malkin’s arguments against having Massa on for the whole show.
Oh, I surely do, but I also think that you don’t help re-animate something that died, that you want dead. I’d love the GOP to actually go on offense, but that would have taken place in another context. Believe me, I want the GOP on the offensive, but I don’t want them lending life to a bill that died (for the 12th time) and should stay dead.
The GOP did well at the voodoo summit, but they still lost the battle. It was not about them. The summit was about re-animating the zombie health care for a nother round, which the dems did.
And the GOP never really went on the offensive during that summit, anyway. They argued cost and efficiancy and other side issues, but mostly never broached the fact that it was purely un-Constitutional and as un-American as anything. The COnstitution got maybe two mentions the whole summit, when it should have been the centerpiece. The GOP never attacked the idiot dems for claiming that government runs businesses better than the private sector (which was the argument for the health scare post-Town Hall). The GOP did well on a very limited field, but they missed the larger points and didn’t drive home how UN-AMERICAN the whole idea is and how the Constitution just doens’t allow the federal government to do these things.
neurosculptor on March 9, 2010 at 9:49 PM
Perhaps, but arguably, with Palin (and probably Beck too), it was more than Jon Stewart and SNL, and let’s face it, if our leaders pussyfoot around because of what SNL may or may not do, then they aren’t leaders.
Secondly, as pointed out, it was WAY more than SNL. Even many Republicans mocked Palin and still mock Beck. Either, this is because Palin and Beck legitimately should be mocked or these people don’t like the message and want to shut it down.
Now, do we or do we not concern ourselves with the opinion of Jon Stewart and the SNL cast?
MeatHeadinCA on March 9, 2010 at 9:51 PM
Perhaps, but arguably, with Palin (and probably Beck too), it was more than Jon Stewart and SNL, and let’s face it, if our leaders tread softly around because of what SNL may or may not do, then they aren’t leaders.
Secondly, as pointed out, it was WAY more than SNL. Even many Republicans mocked Palin and still mock Beck. Either, this is because Palin and Beck legitimately should be mocked or these people don’t like the message and want to shut it down.
Now, do we or do we not concern ourselves with the opinion of Jon Stewart and the SNL cast?
*hope this doesn’t double post… I think there was a word that was deemed a no-no word (actually harmless).
MeatHeadinCA on March 9, 2010 at 9:53 PM
Beck laughs at the mockery thrown his way.
thomasaur on March 9, 2010 at 9:54 PM
That Massa guy is such a buffoon. He has nothing. Beck asked him for something specicic and all he could say was, “I’ve had my arm twisted 17 ways Sunday,” or however the phrase goes. If that’s the case, Massa, where are the details??? Beck was about to DESTROY him at the end, but it was too late, the show was over.
Narutoboy on March 9, 2010 at 9:55 PM
Wow! Beck should quit. He obviously is far outclassed by the brilliant minds here at Hot Air. I mean seriously the guy apologized on air for the mistake and that still isn’t good enough? Who else would do that? Please. With all due respect to Michelle, you Malkinbots need to get over it. Her prediction on what Massa would do wasn’t exactly spot on. And quit throwing Levin’s name around. He’s been preaching to the same choir for years. Beck has done more for the conservative movement over the past year than most.
gator70 on March 9, 2010 at 9:58 PM
And Palin too… hey, if you can’t laugh at yourself, then you might have some issues.
MeatHeadinCA on March 9, 2010 at 9:58 PM
In unrelated news, Massa’s “lost” dog is returned to him after the Beck interview ends.
DrAllecon on March 9, 2010 at 10:01 PM
I just watched Glenn’s show.
He looked bummed that whatever conversation he had with Massa wasn’t gonna come out on television.
I agree.
He should have switch gears and go hard core on Massa when he realized he’s been had.
I would have asked, ” On the phone, did you tell me this?”
“Is it true that this happened?”
If I was interviewing Massa, he would have been dead meat.
Conservative Samizdat on March 9, 2010 at 10:02 PM
Your name is Bury Soetoro.
thomasaur on March 9, 2010 at 10:03 PM
Was his grandmother with the dog?
thomasaur on March 9, 2010 at 10:04 PM
BTW, Listen to Greta’s interview with Paul Ryan (it is almost over, now). They talked about the health scare summit and Ryan shows that my opinion about it (certainly about how The Precedent and the lunatics looked at it) was pretty accurate. But, you should see it and judge for yourself.
neurosculptor on March 9, 2010 at 10:08 PM
Was Beck upset that you were listening in on his private phone conversation?
Oh, I get it! You didn’t actually HEAR the conversation, you’re just ASSUMING that is how it went.
My bad.
csdeven on March 9, 2010 at 10:09 PM
Malkin called it.
Has Beck had an hour’s worth of actual conservative guests (i.e., not members of his own in-house crew) in the past MONTH?
And he hands this bugger a twenty million dollar infomercial to tell the world his stupid-ass “poor poor pitiful me” sob story — absolutely free of charge.
logis on March 9, 2010 at 10:12 PM
For those of you who are unfamiliar with the English language and how to understand the words in the order they are presented to get to the meat of the statement, go back and listen to the first clip again. I’ll give you a clue.
1) Hero
2) Villain
3) Victim
Beck has no idea which one Massa is. Ergo, all the evidence you need to understand that beck was prepared for whichever the guy turned out to be as the interview progressed.
csdeven on March 9, 2010 at 10:22 PM
Nope! They’re gonna attack regardless and they’ll defiantly go after those they think are a threat to their power.
Sharr on March 9, 2010 at 10:26 PM
Why even have this moron on your show?
Much more important things to talk about.
therightwinger on March 9, 2010 at 10:32 PM
I like the fact that he said that he wasted your time with Massa still sitting there.
Beck got stuck on the fact of resigning with no fight. I got it as he was tired of the constant attacks that he would be subjected to. And the risk of one doctors visit that will say he could be dead from cancer in 2 months or less. One should not wish that on the worst of an idealogical opponent to have to live that way. He can now go back to NY and if the cancer has not come back he can live in obscurity and be a footnote in history.
tjexcite on March 9, 2010 at 10:35 PM
+1 million
Knucklehead on March 9, 2010 at 10:36 PM
What Beck did here was inadvertently brilliant. Exposing men like Massa for the oddball story-spinners that they are may not make for entirely educational television but it is well and truly enlightening. Can’t blame Glenn for being frustrated with the outcome of the interview; he’s an honorable enough man to truly feel sorry for whenever he sees his viewers’ or listeners’ time as wasted.
I doubt we’re ever going to that apology from Keith Olbermann for wasting years upon years of his viewers’ precious hours.
To fair-weather Glenn Beck fans: scram. One wasted show out of dozens upon dozens of exceptional ones does not make Glenn’s show a sudden travesty. It’s called perspective, folks. Get some.
Jockolantern on March 9, 2010 at 10:37 PM
HotAir will have more credibility when someone chooses to report (on a regular basis) the imperfections of Levin, Malkin, Rush, Hannity, Savage, and………….. Come on, let’s just devote more time to trashing ALL radio talk show hosts. Surely, we can find time to ridicule these individuals as well as their opinions.
mobydutch on March 9, 2010 at 10:37 PM
Argh; sorry about the italics spam towards the end. This posting system desperately needs an “edit” option.
Jockolantern on March 9, 2010 at 10:37 PM
That Beck gave this guy an hour interview surprised me. I’ve turned him off before because he tends to be extreme but a friend convinced me to give him another try. I’ve come to see a very hard worker for the constitution and conservative cause. Same with MM. Must we grade one better than the other? MM challenging Glenn on GB’s show was thought provoking and I appreciated the opportunity to see another’s pov and the discourse between two powerful conservative leaders. I think it was Mark Steyn that said, “Never stop arguing America!” That’s what makes us great!
kali on March 9, 2010 at 10:55 PM
Swell.
….Next on the list: the third party garbage. There’s a whole lotta time that needs to be unwasted on that one.
Hawkins1701 on March 9, 2010 at 11:08 PM
Me thinks that too! After hearing Michelle and Rush say no way today I still heart Glenn for taking a chance. Glenn was so angry he was speechless and white as a ghost!
Proof postive, libs are………!
Coastal Paradise on March 9, 2010 at 11:26 PM
This guy is a Far Leftie who intended to punk Beck – from square one.
Beck was foolish enough to take the bait.
Michelle graciously tried to protect Glenn, but he wasn’t going to listen.
He had to learn a hard lesson himself.
AprilOrit on March 9, 2010 at 11:35 PM
Yes, its an assumption but its a fair assumption based on what Beck implied as transpired between them over the phone.
Its clear that whatever was discussed on the phone…Massa was unwilling to discuss it on the air.
Conservative Samizdat on March 9, 2010 at 11:49 PM
What you people don’t understand is that Beck could care less about the content of his show. He only cares that he is making ratings and GOLD. If being a Liberal paid as much GOLD as being a Conservative, Beck would be to the left of Code Pink.
Decider on March 9, 2010 at 11:52 PM
Actually Beck will not suffer. The arrogant Shep Smith got in his dig and I imagine the lefty media will too.Despite this, although he didn’t hit a home run, Beck certainly got a solid single exposing this Democratic fraud to be a fruit (both sexually and mentally) but FAR MORE IMPORTANTLY he exposed this creature to the American public as one of a couple of hundred Democratic dunces leading the whole country off a cliff.Would you now trust a Democrat to design and run your Health Care Program? No-nor would you even trust them to go across the street to get a newspaper.
MaiDee on March 9, 2010 at 11:52 PM
The problem wasn’t Beck, it was Massa. I even have no problem with Beck giving him a full hour. So what? I got to see Massa squirm every which way but address what he claimed – striong-armed and run out of Dodge.
Blago also had his hours of interviews, but never spilled much. naturally he’s save whatever ammo he had for the courts. Byah also slammed his party, but when given the chance to elaborate, he waltzed away.
There’s another 250 slimeballs in congress. Sooner or later, there’s gonna be teh one that will spill the beans with complete with the 5Ws. When that happens, it’ll be perfectly complemented by popcorn.
Massa coulda been that contenda, but rolled over. Oh well… Nice try Beck.
AH_C on March 9, 2010 at 11:56 PM
I didn’t get any implications from what Beck said in the lead up to this. That was confirmed during his opening remarks at the beginning of the show.
csdeven on March 10, 2010 at 12:10 AM
Whena youse talks wit dis Beck louse youse keepa shut you mout. capiche, sweet cheeks?
Speakup on March 10, 2010 at 12:18 AM
Decider on March 9, 2010 at 11:52 PM
Unless you have proof that Beck doesn’t say what he actually believe, keep your slander to yourself.
Conservative Voice on March 10, 2010 at 12:19 AM
Watched 25 minutes of this show. Finally had enough. Figured I wasted enough of my life on this crapping interview. Massa controlled the whole show. I was getting dumber by the moment.
ChiTownPizza on March 10, 2010 at 12:34 AM
I love the people all talking sh*t about Michelle now that she doesn’t own the site. Michelle is awesome and she was dead on about this, as she is on most things.
LibTired on March 10, 2010 at 1:35 AM
Looks like someone owes the Boss Emeritus an apology….
darii on March 10, 2010 at 2:26 AM
Word
darii on March 10, 2010 at 2:26 AM
He maybe planed to do something different , but got an offer he couldn’t refuse. And that “movement” thought it was better if he showed up saying nothing.
the_nile on March 10, 2010 at 3:18 AM
Still like Glenn.
He manned up on-air to the fact that he got duped.
This doesn’t hurt the Conservative cause at all, after all this whiney nutbar Massa is a Donk who supported all their programs.
Too bad Glenn didn’t just pull the plug 5 minutes in.
Today’s show should be interesting.
PaddyJ on March 10, 2010 at 4:49 AM
It was a very strange interview. Beck seemed flummoxed, discombobulated, somewhat sketchy.
I thought that if they got on his case like this, they’d make him second guess himself. Usually he’s all over people, this time he let Massa kinda run all over him.
The dude was good. But there’s something weird about him. He clearly changed his story. Instead of being ‘forced out’, he was resigning. Instead of talking about corruption, he started saying nice things about Rahm.
Very strange. Either some people got to him and REALLY threatened him, or he lured Beck into having him on. But what’s the point of that? What’s the point of going on Beck’s show and saying basically NOTHING? This whole thing was rather strange.
I was initially hopeful after hearing Massa’s audio on the radio station. You could tell he was telling the truth; there was a sense of desperation, anger, and recklessness in his attitude. I thought if you combined that attitude with Beck’s probing approach, you would get GOLD. But Massa changed.
I don’t know why he changed. He either did it because he was threatened to or because it was part of some larger plan. But if this whole thing was planned, I don’t see the point. I really don’t.
Sixth Guard on March 10, 2010 at 5:22 AM
Michelle didn’t predict S*&T. She said he was going to try and ‘save his political hide’ by blaming the government and proclaiming his innocence. She thought Massa didn’t DESERVE the airtime.
That’s not what happened at all.
Massa wasn’t trying to save anything. He said he was leaving politics for good. He didn’t blame anyone. He took back practically all his corruption charges. Any ginger mentions of bribery or armtwisting were broad sweeps about ‘both parties’.
Michelle wasn’t right. Neither was Beck. Overall, it was really strange. Some people are saying it was a plan by the Dems, Rahm, etc… But what’s the point? We didn’t see anything. It was like watching paint dry. Nobody actually listened to Massa’s empty platitudes – they were waiting for the Rahm stories, they wanted to hear the inside stories about corruption.
I think Massa might just be a headcase. He’s very good at filibustering, but I think he might just have a screw loose. If he can talk at ease about screwing his staff, offering to help a fellow sailor with masturbation, talk about a mass-tickling session, and naked argument with Rahm, I think this dude is just straight up strange. I still think he deceived Beck, but I don’t understand why or even what it accomplished.
Sixth Guard on March 10, 2010 at 5:29 AM
I’m late to this conversation, so no one will see this, but I just have to say…….I don’t like Beck and I don’t watch his show. Way too much drama for me. I do like Michelle and usually agree with what she has to say. That being said, I listened to Michelle’s discussion with Beck this morning and found myself wondering why she chose to have that discussion publicly. Seems like it would have been more appropriate to conduct it in private. I’m sure Beck would have taken her call after his radio broadcast. I only listened to part of the conversation before I got bored and annoyed and shut it off, but during the time I did listen, Michelle contradicted herself three times regarding the resignation of Massa. She came across like a mom disciplining her kids, which was rather insulting, IMO. I think Beck took a chance and booked the guy for a full hour in hopes the sleeze bag was going to dish some dirt and it didn’t work out. If it had, you guys would be all for erecting a monument in his name. Fair weather support and foul weather scorn makes you just as bad as the dems.
speed911 on March 10, 2010 at 5:32 AM
I am sorry that you had to apologize , Glenn
but
$h!t happens, get over it and move on
macncheez on March 10, 2010 at 6:35 AM
What burns me is that Beck was so completely rude to Michelle Malkin on his radio show yesterday. He even used the Bill O’Reilly, “you people” (it was used on Laura Ingraham to mean “partisan”) on her. “You people”? Doesn’t Beck understand that the Tea Party is a Conservative movement, and that Michelle Malkin is part of that movement?
I get the feeling that Glenn Beck has fallen a bit too much into the “Independent” mode–so much so that he disregards Conservative pleas to stop the madness. Malkin was right in her assumptions about Massa, and instead of demonizing her, he should have explained what his intentions were, and that the interview was already scheduled, good or bad.
Is this about the Third Party ideas of Mr Beck? Perhaps. He will likely be talking about the number of emails he is recieved overnight on his failure, and on his treatment of Michelle. She deserves, rightly, an apology. As do we.
darkmetal on March 10, 2010 at 7:03 AM
If MM had ever gone off the rails like this when she owned HA, she would have been criticized. As a matter of fact she was criticized when she let the Jerry Rivera deal run her off of Bill O’s show.
The problem is that MM has changed, not us. She made predictions, just as Allah and Ed did, about what was supposed to happen and they were wrong. Now they are trying nuance their original comments with comments that prove that they never listened to Beck before the interview. They, like you assumed a certain outcome and when that didn’t happen, you all circle the wagons to try and establish correctness through numbers.
You all look like fools. All you have to do is go back and LISTEN to what Beck said before the interview without putting your own expectations into what you are hearing him say. He was very clear and the interview proceeded within the parameters he laid out.
csdeven on March 10, 2010 at 7:20 AM
Doesn’t this just show that Beck is purely and entertainer, with very little substance?
He whips up his congregation with his evangelistic style and his followers are just in awe of him.
Levin and Malkin try to warn him…but his ego is bigger then his brain.
He is moving into Ron Paul of kookiness.
right2bright on March 10, 2010 at 7:44 AM
Ahhh…all the Beltway Progressive Republican snakes that have been beating him up since CPAC are now crawling out from under their rocks to bask in the glow of Beck’s naivete.
Why don’t you just slither back up under there and finish shagging Meghan and let the Constitutionalists save the country without your vapid commentary.
seejanemom on March 10, 2010 at 8:08 AM
Massa definitely did not enhance his own credibility with the interview, but Beck didn’t harm himself at all. He even got a compliment this AM from Morning Joe.
A D- for Massa. A solid win for Beck.
AnninCA on March 10, 2010 at 8:16 AM
Michelle was right. Massa worked Beck like a cheap tool.
volsense on March 10, 2010 at 8:17 AM
Next step for Beck is to have Michelle on and tell her how right she was. Beck is a humble guy and making the occasional mistake and then, humbly owning up to it will only increase his popularity.
I do think that there was some value in having a democrat slime crawl out from under his rock and appear before a real, legit interviewer like Beck. It allowed people to see what absolute low-life makes up the majority of the dem party. DD
Darvin Dowdy on March 10, 2010 at 8:18 AM
I thought Glen pretty much let the guy expose himself. Bad pun, but that really is the point of any interview. Let people decide.
We did. I doubt anyone comes away thinking that Massa had any real story about corruption, other than the usual junk.
Of course, I think the pundits like MM are really the ones who elevate people by talking about them rather than just doing a good interview and letting us decide.
AnninCA on March 10, 2010 at 8:20 AM
The only thing Massa accomplished was to put a question in some people’s minds about what REALLY happened.
Since he resigned, the issue will probably die.
AnninCA on March 10, 2010 at 8:23 AM
Dems are slippery and capricious. BUT. Methinks they’re not sleeping well at night, and I believe a serious attack of conscience will strike…soon.
On Inauguration Day I had a feeling this President would not finish his term. I feel that even more strongly now. He’s a desperate narcissist convinced that he’s on a mission. There is no more dangerous creature, IMO, and every day he doesn’t get ‘caught’ makes him more bold in his dirty double-dealing. I believe he will either be forced to resign or face impeachment.
All it takes is one to start talking. It wasn’t Massa. It was NEVER going to be Massa. But I do look for a huge revelation, and maybe soon.
The truth will out. We just have to wait for it.
Grace_is_sufficient on March 10, 2010 at 8:26 AM
1. Patterson
2. Sestak
3. Messa
These guys were were either bribed or destroyed by their own party.
That’s the story.
Does anyone think that Messa wouldn’t be given a pass on his “tickle parties” if he were voting the way the white house wanted him too?
Dorvillian on March 10, 2010 at 8:27 AM
What’s the matter…did I hurt your feelings…did your earthly messiah make a fool of Himself, and now that people post you don’t like it?
Beck is a great entertainer, like a traveling baptist minister, he whips up his followers and they praise Him…he Can’t Make a Mistake…and one dares not criticize Him.
Because if you criticize Him your entertainment god, you become a Beltway Progressive Republican…whatever strange definition you have of that.
…and who is Meghan? This one?
You probably mean McCain…I don’t know if I have ever commented about her, except as a negative.
Do a little research before sounding off…usually you are thoughtful, but this Beck adoration thing is affecting you.
right2bright on March 10, 2010 at 8:29 AM
Really? Is that what Michelle claimed would happen?
Itchee Dryback on March 10, 2010 at 8:31 AM
Okay. Why don’t you enlighten the group by squaring these facts.
1) What beck said before the interview.
2) What Beck said would definitely happen.
3) What MM said before the interview.
4) What MM said would definitely happen.
Beck 2 MM 0
csdeven on March 10, 2010 at 8:33 AM
Gee, attacking Beck sure does make you come out with some ridiculous statements.
You think Beck is a constitutionalists? And you think saying he was pawned by Massa, make me not?
Do you have a picture of Beck on your pillow?
right2bright on March 10, 2010 at 8:34 AM
Even if you don’t work for her, never argue with the boss!
Hope Beck learned something tonight
abobo on March 10, 2010 at 8:39 AM
The problem isn’t the criticism per se. It is the criticism based on assumptions and faulty logic.
Every one of you who think Beck was pwne3d ASSUMED an outcome that Beck NEVER promised. You wanted to drive a nail into the demrats so bad that you wishful thought yourself into a no win situation. Look, Beck is the guy who fooled the entire MSM and demrats with a boiled frog trick. You are deluding yourself if you think someone who is capable of that is going into that interview without thinking it through.
You’re just bummed that you didn’t get the result you wanted, so that must mean Beck screwed up. The truth is that you ignored what Beck said.
csdeven on March 10, 2010 at 8:39 AM
I agree about the splatter of criticism of MM..I don’t get it.
Simple disagreements are to be expected in complicated and trying times..but thats all they are..simple disagreements and should not have rational people pick sides and start divisions when unity is whats needed and will be what is valuable.
Itchee Dryback on March 10, 2010 at 8:41 AM
Please, Please!!!! Hot Air DO NOT become the new LGF.
csdeven on March 10, 2010 at 8:41 AM
Word for word? sorry csdeven, I have a life. Don’t have time for splitting hairs. But I think Beck and Malkin (both enlightened people) will have a good laugh over this and move on past this very minor speed bump. If anything it’ll bring them closer. DD
Darvin Dowdy on March 10, 2010 at 8:48 AM
While I was watching the show, I kept thinking of Geraldo Rivera’s “Al Capone’s Vault” fiasco.
But this morning, upon reflection, I’ve decided this was a particularly edifying experience. It is one thing to find that the basement of a building is utterly devoid of anything besides vermin and cobwebs. But it is another thing entirely to see that kind of vacuum where a human being’s soul should be.
Regardless of his intent, last night Glen Beck forced us to spend a full hour staring into the straight into the face of a sociopath. Definitely not a pretty picture; but it was one we needed to see.
As ugly as this may be, we need to learn how to not turn away from this kind of thing. In the coming months that skill will serve us in good stead.
logis on March 10, 2010 at 8:49 AM
I was uncomfortable with both men. They each had their own agenda and neither would buy into the others. Yes, it was a waste of my time, but both were responsible.
jeanie on March 10, 2010 at 8:51 AM
Massa=Frank Pentangele from The Godfather….
Yes, Virginia, there is a mob ruling the White House…..
adamsmith on March 10, 2010 at 8:55 AM
You accuse Beck of getting pawn3d without knowing all the facts?
Don’t say that. Why would anyone bother to consider your comments if you wont bother to know the facts?
csdeven on March 10, 2010 at 9:00 AM
+1000
And consider how many noobs tuned in and saw it first hand rather than through accusations. Beck just increased his audience and fostered conservative political activism.
Meanwhile some Hot Air commenters are ramming their head up their @ss.
csdeven on March 10, 2010 at 9:03 AM
He’s a democrat for crying out loud….what do you expect.
Should have listened to the Boss Lady MM.
This is 100% the democrats problem and a prime example of the idiocy and corruption that runs rampant in their party.
Massa talks and acts like a typical Obama Czar.
This is of course why Obama is circumventing Congress by using these Czar’s and giving them so much influence….they would never get past a congressional hearing being 9/11 truthers and advocating elementary kids read books on how to “fist” and “felate” each other.
Massa is right there with Dodd,Rangel,Reid,Pelosi,Murtha(past tense),Cynthia McKinney,Kucinich,and Barney Franks to name just a few corrupt democrats that have zero common sense.
This is Obama’s administration and he should be held accountable for it….the buck stops at the Presidents desk.
Baxter Greene on March 10, 2010 at 9:05 AM
Not sure I’m getting the full context of that statement, since I’m very late to the party, but…
I think we are foolish if we do not, because an awful lot of voting morons get their news from these people. Know your enemy, and know how to play their game. Tina Fey is probably giddy as he*l because she did more to damage (dishonestly) Sarah Palin’s image than any other single source. She made Sarah a joke (dishonestly, but it didn’t matter) to a great many people. To this day there are people quoting the “I can see Russia from my house?” BS to mock her.
As to GB on this ‘waste of time’…. I could not disagree more with those saying he only cares about ratings, etc… The look on his face when he realized Massa was not going to spill was genuine disbelief and disgust. After the ranting of Massa the day before, Glenn (I believe) really thought this guy was going to spill. I think Glenn is a genuinely decent guy (even though he does have some very definite anti-papist tendencies, but I try not to let that infuriate me too much) anyway… I think he is also an optimist, even though he sees the writing on the wall. He still thinks we can fix the mess we’ve gotten ourselves into. He trusts people, or really wants to. I think he has to believe all this (that there is real hope) for his sanity; he has young children. Is it a mistake…well, in this instance it was, but it might have gone the other way and it was a chance worth taking. It still shows the horrific corruption in the government. If Glenn is as smart (even if a little naive/overly optimistic) as I think he is, he’ll be able to focus on that and get some good out of this.
It hasn’t damaged my view of Glenn nearly as much as his (as far as I know, uncorrected) announcement that the Pope was giving Nancy Pelosi an award. And I still watch and enjoy him, and believe he is revealing and teaching so many important lessons. I’m still a fan.
I’m still a fan of MM, too. Love her. I’m a fan of anyone who fights for the truth and don’t think there is anything wrong with disagreeing, but really hate the infighting that tries to destroy one of our own.
/my 2cents
pannw on March 10, 2010 at 9:14 AM
Listening to Beck now. He’s ripping rim apart and mocking him to death. He’s still mad at this, of course! Who wouldn’t?
ProudPalinFan on March 10, 2010 at 9:15 AM
That’s not what I hear…Beck and his lackeys are trying to make Beck look like a genius.
LtE126 on March 10, 2010 at 9:18 AM
I understand your point, but I clearly read Beck’s body language yesterday. Yeah it was a waste of time for my DVR as well, that I will erase asap…
I dunno how hard is to interview someone with wifey in front of him…it could be another of Massa’s tactics. Hush puppy to add to his pity party.
ProudPalinFan on March 10, 2010 at 9:22 AM
Heh, Larry King I love it when Glenn plays it and Larry asks him the g question and he fires back to Larry with another question.
ProudPalinFan on March 10, 2010 at 9:27 AM
omg Cory Haim has died!!!!!
ProudPalinFan on March 10, 2010 at 9:30 AM
After warning Republican lawmakers for the past 14 months not to trust Democrats or their promises, Beck trusted a Democrat and his promises and made the same mistake the Dems made back in 1987 when they grilled Ollie North during the Iran-Contra hearings without knowing what he was going to say, and thinking he was going to be to Ronald Reagan what Alexander Butterfield was to Richard Nixon.
Massa had been altering his story for three days prior to his Sunday radio show and his attacks on Rahm, and Beck mistakenly thought that was the story Massa was going to stick with. Live and learn, and hopefully, Beck has figured that out now. Massa on Tuesday for one or two segments would have made sense; giving the whole 60 minute show over to him under the assumption he was going to stick with a story for three days in a row should teach Glenn what happens when you assume.
jon1979 on March 10, 2010 at 9:35 AM
A guy just called into Beck ripped him for getting into with Michelle and told him he used…Beck and his suckholes made fun of him and hung up on him.
What a self promoting whore.
LtE126 on March 10, 2010 at 9:47 AM
Back to Laura. Gotta stick with the winners.
LtE126 on March 10, 2010 at 9:48 AM
The groupie mentality in this thread is positively astonishing.
Beck made a judgment call – it turned out erroneous. That happens in life, and because Mrs. Malkin ‘called’ it does not make her the Supreme Voice of the Right, nor would she claim to be, I think. A lot of people got themselves into a kerfuffle and all insulted on behalf of Mrs. Malkin, but Beck apologized to her already – probably will again – but none of you are Mrs. Malkin.
I suspect that this is being used as a weapon by many people who already dislike Beck – various posters, AP, perhaps Senor MacLeod, Guardian of True Conservatism – to further belittle someone they already love to pick at, which is fine, because people do that to Palin all the time, and she pulls through okay.
Just note that you’re all on page with the Associated Press and half of the Left at the moment in doing so.
We’ve got a serious issue with idolatry in this nation. The Left has Obama – over here, we have Rush, Beck, Malkin, Levin, Hannity, and many others whom are more vigorously defended than any unborn child or the Word of God Himself. An extraordinarily deep self-examination is required in this nation of lambs that latch on to a person and growl at anyone who passes by.
Pay attention, because this is important. None of these people are God. What they say or do will not make much difference in the grand scheme of your life, so scale it back a notch.
To those who simply pointed out the errors in whichever side they saw without descending into groupie gossip, carry on.
KinleyArdal on March 10, 2010 at 9:55 AM
This reminds me of another thing.
People are ripping Beck for being a ‘ratings whore’. How gauche to throw around such a word in casual conversation, but that’s a little beside the point.
Everyone in the business is in it for money. Beck gets paid and has advertisers.
Levin does the same.
Limbaugh does the same.
Laura does the same.
Hannity does the same.
Mrs. Malkin sold HotAir, presumably at a profit – that’s business.
Don’t get on this bloody high horse about “ratings whores” and say “they’re just in it for the money.” Saying so makes you sound like a Leftist.
KinleyArdal on March 10, 2010 at 9:58 AM
“KinleyArdal on March 10, 2010 at 9:58 AM”
What does “gauche” mean?
LtE126 on March 10, 2010 at 10:08 AM
It means lacking grace.
That is to say, it’s an unrefined way to communicate. Surely we can better express ourselves. I mean, I call people idiots rather consistently, but that is an accurate representation when people refuse to see the truth sitting on their nose, i.e. Jimbo “I’d tell my daughter to get an abortion, sure”. He is an idiot, that cannot be helped.
But let’s not call people whores. ._. Maybe it’s just a pet peeve of mine, I got pretty riled with Limbaugh for yakking it up about prostitutes in Washington, et cetera.
KinleyArdal on March 10, 2010 at 10:11 AM
“What exactly was Massa’s goal here?”
His goal changed about the time his children were threatened, which apparently happened between his radio interview with Beck and the TV interview.
It’s as obvious as the nose on you face.
The other possibility is that he was shown irrefutable evidence of his perversions.
Or both
notagool on March 10, 2010 at 10:12 AM
Sorry.
Can I call him a “trollop”, or someone so in love with himself he has “tickle parties” solo while gazing at a picture of himself?
Graceful enough?
LtE126 on March 10, 2010 at 10:16 AM
WA!!! How have ya been?? Haven’t seen you around for awhile…we have missed you!
lovingmyUSA on March 10, 2010 at 10:29 AM
*shrug*
I’ve never thought of Beck as an egomaniac. Then again, lots of people swallow Limbaugh’s “harmless lovable little fuzzball” shtick and ignore the massive self-regard put forth daily, so perhaps the joke’s on me.
Either way, the commentary stands. Idolatry of the twenty-first century – welcome to America.
KinleyArdal on March 10, 2010 at 10:30 AM
Hmm, judging by the content and amount of comments you have made about Beck–it seems you have a fixation on him…I assume you never watch his show–so where do you get your vast amount of knowledge about him? And obviously you are also a mind-reader, since you know so much of what Beck is thinking…
Cna you tell what I’m thinking about you now…?
lovingmyUSA on March 10, 2010 at 10:37 AM
Watched this mess.
Beck did a fair job on the interview, was clearly frustrated that he wasn’t getting the answers he wanted or expected. Did Massa tell him something prior to the TV interview? I have no idea. Beck should have gotten something concrete before going ahead with this.
Beck should have pulled Massa’s plug much sooner. He should have seen that this interview was going nowhere somewhere between 15 minutes and 30 minutes in.
jpmn on March 10, 2010 at 10:45 AM
Good for them–Michelle called it all wrong, and you are too gutless to admit it…Beck showed Massa for what he was–or Massa was threatened before the show…we will never know. Michelle didn’t have the right to tell Beck who he should have on HIS show…just like Beck doesn’t have the right to tell Michelle what content she should have in her columns…
This caller was a shill for Michelle, and Beck recognized that…
You just do that…her ratings show that way more people listen to her than Beck…right?
lovingmyUSA on March 10, 2010 at 10:47 AM
Beck didn’t ask the question I was waiting for: Are you bi-sexual?
King asked, “Are you gay?”
But a lot of people are bi-sexual, which is what this guy sounds like to me, anyway.
I thought, personally, Beck showed his irritation a bit too much. After listening to many representatives on air, I’ve concluded that a LOT of them are like Massa. They aren’t prepared at all for national TV and what passes for an answer at a fundraiser is not nearly the same as what works on TV.
He sounded unprepared more than lacking credibility. He’s probably truly convinced that he’s being set up. He’s also truly convinced and is probably right that a lot of heavy drinking goes on in DC and he’s sure not the only one who acts inappropriately in those situations.
The others just are getting by with it.
AnninCA on March 10, 2010 at 10:55 AM
You are mistaking Beck as having some lofty goals. He, Rush, MM, etc., have one primary goal: ratings.
And he topped the chart yesterday, I’m sure.
Yes, it’s a cat and mouse game. Get too far out? You’ll spike and crash.
This was hardly a crash.
AnninCA on March 10, 2010 at 10:57 AM
The idea that MM isn’t also after the same thing: ratings, makes me totally laugh.
Come on.
AnninCA on March 10, 2010 at 10:58 AM
Massa could have used his hour of fame to truly expose the Pelosi/Emanuel “culture of corruption” and bribing and arm-twisting for what it is, with an interviewer (Beck) willing to cooperate with him on that issue. He could have either “gone out with a bang”, or STAYED in Congress to fight this from the inside, but he did neither. As Beck said, Massa “waved the white flag”, then went out with a whimper. Massa had his big chance, and blew it big time.
Let’s not blame Beck for this.
Rahm Emanuel is LHAO in schadenfreude, as Massa caved and gave him victory.
Steve Z on March 10, 2010 at 10:59 AM
Massa also blew it big time with Larry King–when asked if he was gay, Massa could have nailed it with a two-letter answer: NO!
Steve Z on March 10, 2010 at 11:00 AM
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