Glenn Beck: Sorry for wasting your time with Massa, America
posted at 7:42 pm on March 9, 2010 by Allahpundit
A complete debacle, and completely riveting. If you missed it, make time for Mediaite’s two highlight reels below. Glynnis MacNicol is spot on:
I think the short version is that the Massa that showed up at Glenn Beck’s desk is definitely not the Massa that was on the other end of Beck’s telephone yesterday. Something that began to be clear to Beck around the 20 minute mark, after Massa refused to get into specific about the corruption of the Dems generally, and Rahm Emanuel specifically. At about the 25 minute mark Glenn Beck starts getting mad. If you ever wondered what Glenn Beck looks like when he realized he’s been had that’s a good place to start.
Precisely. The big sell in having Massa on was that he was, supposedly, about to roll over on Pelosi, Hoyer, etc, for backroom dealings. Instead, this:
Beck finally says, “I don’t want to be a defender of the White House… is there anything SPECIFIC that you have?” Massa still can’t point to any specific examples of Democratic leadership arm-twisting or bullying. Massa finally tries to blame the House Whip for pressuring him to change his vote and likens it to bribery: “I don’t know how to be specific… Its called Whipping!”
Massa can’t seem to come up with any better examples.
Follow the Mediaite link and watch the “bullcrap” clip embedded there. When pressed on corruption, all he could do was blow smoke about how super-keen he thinks the tea party is, etc. In fact, not only didn’t he dish new dirt, he cleaned up some of the dirt he’d already dished: In the first clip below, he dismisses the suggestion that the Dems had forced him out unfairly for his behavior. “I forced myself out,” he says — i.e., he deserved to go. Good work, Massa.
Don’t miss him showing off his “crossing the line” scrapbook. A golden television moment, my friends. Exit question: What exactly was Massa’s goal here? He evidently BS-ed Beck with tall tales of corruption in order to land on the show … but to what end? So that he could mumble about “tickle fights” and pander transparently to Beck about his pet issues? At the very least, you’d expect him to claim he’s being railroaded and didn’t deserve to be pushed out, but he’s not even saying that. What’s the frequency, Kenneth?
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Massa’s best answer was about the reality of being a congressperson today: the long hours, the constant fundraising, etc.
Nobody is going to be terribly sympathetic to that message, but I thought Beck actually responded well to that. It is ridiculous, and someone dancing with cancer really should rethink life’s priorities, for sure.
What I was sympathetic to Massa about was that he clearly has always been a bit of a jerk. He brought that stupid picture book and proved it. He managed to hide that from his voters, but now the cat is out of the bag, and he’s a “national figure,” even though he’s totally unprepared to be that.
I thought my heart went out to him, just on a human level, when he said, “I am out of gas.”
I had a bit more respect for Beck when I saw that he didn’t jam the guy over that issue anymore. His humanity recognized the humanity in Massa. He has been there.
I doubt I’ll ever really be a Beckhead, but he did earn a bit of respect from me in that segment.
BTW, AH actually gave him a compliment today.
Wonders never cease!
AnninCA on March 10, 2010 at 11:07 AM
He did. He explained that it’s “whipping,” and how fundraising really works today.
However, the part he doesn’t seem to get is that happens to less established representatives.
The ones who have survived can keep doners while still breaking their hearts with some votes.
AnninCA on March 10, 2010 at 11:09 AM
That is of course, assuming that he isn’t gay.
rollthedice on March 10, 2010 at 11:14 AM
“In the end, it turned out being a very useful thing to watch.” – Michelle, Boss Emeritus
Pablo on March 10, 2010 at 11:16 AM
Michelle’s back on for a victory lap on Beck’s show.
It was good of you to fully expose him as a creepocrat, Glenn.
forest on March 10, 2010 at 11:16 AM
That screenshot is pure gold.
ernesto on March 10, 2010 at 11:17 AM
The reason Michelle is on his show and the conversation is good is indicative of how Beck handled the aftermath of their conversation yesterday.
His vulnerability is his strength.
katy on March 10, 2010 at 11:22 AM
Definitely true. I think this is one reason he appeals to people who wouldn’t normally pay attention to Rush – particularly younger women – like Katy Abram. That you Katy?
forest on March 10, 2010 at 11:29 AM
That you Katy?
forest on March 10, 2010 at 11:29 AM
katy on March 10, 2010 at 12:09 PM
“‘Bi-sexual’ means: ‘gay — with a publicist.’”
– Adam Carolla
logis on March 10, 2010 at 12:23 PM
I disagree it was a debacle. I agree it was riveting. I taped the show and intend to watch it again
Everyone else was writing speculation on Massa. Beck put him up for us to see, and cross examined him into a snot ball. The Crossing the Line book (and I think Fox blurred the pics, I will have to re reun and check) was truly latent as well as blatant
Beck argued to Massa, if Massa had been ruined, why not name names, putting Massa into a tailspin.
I did a quick check on Massa. He worked as a Republican aide, then went Dem and worked for Wesley Clark before finding his niche.
Now that I better understand the gym scene in Congress, it comes together better.
Beck uses a blackboard for talking points. At the end of the program, he stated we had learned a lot, but had not met one of his objectives on the board – did it help the people?
Learning a lot is not a waste
I do not really think Beck was digusted. He was very effective
IMHO, most viewers would come away from the Beck hour having a greater dislike for Washington. People will be unable to totally discount Massa’s allegations, and the slime will grow, not shrink
Beck was not a flop. He was a success at putting the evil eye on DC
entagor on March 10, 2010 at 12:28 PM
Badger40 on March 10, 2010 at 12:31 PM
I totally agree.
Badger40 on March 10, 2010 at 12:32 PM
AnninCA on March 10, 2010 at 1:01 PM
I have been discussing the Massa event with a friend.
When you are in the middle of a tempest, you loses track of facts.
The Beck Massa program was a rare event indeed. We have come to the point where news is one pundit talking over another pundit about the state of the world and very little hard news reporting.
Spin has replaced news to the extent no one wants to hear from the source anymore. Skip the source and do the thinking for the public.
I hope Beck keeps on taking chances. Massa was a ‘flop’ because he did not say what the spinners wanted?
This interview has made me hungry for more prime source information.
The WP article about
the Baths of Caligula, I mean the place where politicians go to get naked, was apriceless offshoot of the Massa interviewJim DeMint saying it was protocol to never talk about what you talk about there was priceless
Meanwhile it is like pulling nails to find on the web what is truly in the new jobs bill, but there are pages of links to opinions about the bill
Rome II
entagor on March 10, 2010 at 1:38 PM
Yeah. Where is that govt transparency, anyway?
Badger40 on March 10, 2010 at 2:12 PM
Remember Al Capone’s vaults? Same thing here.
Pablo Snooze on March 10, 2010 at 2:26 PM
Geraldo went and hid out after Al Capone’s vault.
However, it was one of the most watched shows ever. Geraldo has had made an entire career off of that fiasco.
Today everyone is talking about Beck’s interview with Massa.
jpmn on March 10, 2010 at 3:39 PM
What if the truth is just what MASSA shared.
It’s about fundraising.
It’s about incredible need to raise funds.
It’s about how that affects any congressperson’s ability to really be independent.
It’s about money.
AnninCA on March 10, 2010 at 4:17 PM
Glenn Beck certainly wasted my time last evening. Michelle Malkin warned him that Massa could not be trusted but he hit her with the, “I don’t know about you people”, crappola and would not heed her well articulated warning. Go Michelle!
I like Glenn Beck but maybe he’s hanging around O’Reilly a bit too much.
sinsing on March 10, 2010 at 4:25 PM
It’s also about being a corrupt liar that would sell its soul to the Devil for gain.
The guy had more to say.
Somebody, or something, got to him.
Whether directly, or indirectly.
Badger40 on March 10, 2010 at 4:45 PM
So now even MM has figured it out. A day late, but okay. Now if only our resident morons who just can’t get it through their think heads will give their opinions on subjects they can actually grasp.
csdeven on March 10, 2010 at 4:55 PM
Okay moron….exactly when did Beck say the guy could be trusted? Provide a link to a comment from Beck where he claims he would get a smoking gun to indict the ratf**k dems with.
You cannot, because he did not. You made up this entire non-existent conversation between Beck and Massa because YOU wanted a smoking gun.
Idiot.
csdeven on March 10, 2010 at 4:59 PM
Good thing I stopped watching this clown when he believed his ‘callers’ when they said that Debra Medina was a wild-eyed ’9-11 Truther’. Upon close scrutiny, there was no evidence of the claim. If he had taken the time to talk to Massa before he had him on his show, he would have known that it would be a Massa-sive waste of time.
Glenn Beck: one of the biggest hypocrites in media today and FNC: leading the charge of the controlled opposition.
Christine on March 10, 2010 at 5:11 PM
Too bad about Air America… You’d think there would have been more support.
Roy Rogers on March 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM
I have finally decided what I think of the Beck interview with Massa. It was not useful in the sense that it did not find a smoking gun to hammer the Democrats with. But it was incredibly instructive concerning the decadence and immorality that appears to be rampant in our government today. The revelations that we have been getting show that Washington DC seems to have become an orgy designed to indulge the esoteric tastes of our intellectual elite. I am seeing images of Nero fiddling after this interview.
Hawthorne on March 10, 2010 at 6:49 PM
Glenn Beck. You’ve done more good than bad, but boy, you are the ass-clown you always said you were.
HE’s the one that couldn’t see that he and Michelle are on the same side. And MM was proven to be soooo right. Hope you apologized, dum-dum. Go back slurping O’Reilly’s bung hole.
LOL. You wanted Massa alllll on your own and you looked like a clown all on your own. I doubt Glenn Beck more and more each day….
Gob on March 10, 2010 at 7:29 PM
Better do a little research my friend…I comment on many things on this blog…beck is only one, and a minor one…maybe a couple of dozen, certainly many many less then posts about Ron Paul, Guiliani, Romney, McCain, Palin, Huck, Pelosi, Reid, Obama, wRangle, Kennedy, Edwards, Reid, Feinstein, Boxer, Biden, Reagan (okay, I will give you that one), truthers, birthers, etc. Looks like a lot of “fixation”…now see how you little Beck bots look making such foolish statements?
Let me see, one comment on him making a fool of himself and I am now a progressive Republican, with a Beck fixation, and I am bummed that the outcome wasn’t what I wanted…and you don’t think you guys don’t think you are over the top with obsession?
right2bright on March 11, 2010 at 12:30 AM
So — how was that Glenn Beck interview with Joe Pesci?
Daggett on March 11, 2010 at 8:11 AM
Ace of Spades immediately made the point that Massa had initially voted against the HealthCare bill because it was not liberal enough, and provided links to Massa’s initial interview (before Beck asked for his own).
Putting the Beck thread on HotAir is expected given the readers’ interest. But leaving it up front so long is nonsensical. It isn’t as if Beck IS the news, or that he is consistent on any record.
More importantly, it isn’t as if sexual preference defines anyone’s right to be employed or participate in government. So far as elected officials go, it’s between them, their families, and their constituents. And Massa’s sexual preference is all that Beck’s and King’s fans wanted discussed or blasted.
Breaking rules requires redress. I take it from the lack of headline stating otherwise that Beck failed to ask Massa about the meaning that Massa gives to the Congressional Rules of Decorum regarding sexual conduct between members of Congress and Congressional Aides. Being bisexual is not what mattered; sexual misconduct according to the rules is the point.
Selective application of the law requires redress. If Congress and the House Speaker are using rules to evict Massa from office, then the same application of Congressional Rules pertaining to the legislative process (Byrd’s blasted “reconciliation” for balanced budget) must be applied as well to maintain consistency. And visa versa. “Nancy’s” House is establishing illegal precedence, negotiating to IGNORE and break the rules written by Thomas Jefferson obeyed all these years prior to Obama’s election. To ignore and break one rule automatically establishes precedence to break any or all rules, “rules” having lost effective credibility.
maverick muse on March 11, 2010 at 12:07 PM
The story here is not Beck. It isn’t Massa’s sexuality.
The story here is the complete inability of the Democratic party to police itself.
jpmn on March 11, 2010 at 1:01 PM
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