Glenn Beck on Massa: “This is a moment that will decide the course of this nation, possibly”
posted at 6:58 pm on March 8, 2010 by Allahpundit
From the opening of today’s show, a teaser of tomorrow’s blockbuster. I tipped my cap to him earlier for his political savvy in using Massa as a symbol for Democratic ruthlessness, but he sure does seem eager to believe this guy’s account of what he did wrong and how the leadership has supposedly mishandled it. Which, as the boss emeritus takes great pains to demonstrate, is an exceedingly bad idea:
He’s a sick, desperate pol looking to save his hide and distract from his smelly ethics problems and personal problems. This is not a hero, not a bona fide champion of reform and integrity in government. He’s the jerk who gave the figurative middle finger to his own constituents as he proclaimed last year that he would ram single-payer down their throats no matter what they thought…
And now, tainted by scandal, he’s running to Fox News to cast himself as a warrior against Obamcare and its left-wing overlords?
A radical backer of the Big Labor card check bill, he’s now trashing union corruption.
C-r-a-p-w-e-a-s-e-l.
Follow the link for examples galore. Beck knows all this, I take it, and has decided to play hardball with the left by giving Massa a forum anyway. Nothing wrong with that; it’s fine Chicago turnabout. But the more credibility he stakes on Massa’s “salty language” nonsense, the greater the risk that this backfires if the Dems produce a smoking gun proving that Massa was guilty of more than that. Just bring him on, prod him about backroom deals and political pressure, and keep away from the ethics stuff. That way, if he gets hit with something later, it’ll look like some minor attempt to distract from the real issue rather than a bullseye that discredits his entire testimony. Exit question: Is this a bad idea or not?
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Maybe…
let Larry King go first…
ninjapirate on March 8, 2010 at 7:03 PM
Are we really sure Massa is lying? Wouldn’t it be easier for him to just fade away so as not to keep his “indiscretion” in the news?Just saying….
sandee on March 8, 2010 at 7:03 PM
Yes, it’s a bad idea. No sense in conservatives getting involved when we can sit back and watch the dems throw hammers at each other
tommer74 on March 8, 2010 at 7:04 PM
Definitely Must See TV!!
Beck and Massa will help push back the ObamaPelosiReidcare monster to the foul swamp it sprang from.
sarahpalinfan99 on March 8, 2010 at 7:04 PM
probably bad idea, Beck is an emotional moron capable of flying off the handle and going too far.
on other hand, the more bad, constant press against Obama the sooner he’s unelectable. Throwing it all at the wall like the left does, will work eventually.
jp on March 8, 2010 at 7:05 PM
Really tough call. My instincts say this is a bad idea. And I didn’t like the way Beck framed it, which you quoted, in saying this could change the course of our nation. Really? But on the other hand, I think only Breitbart has had as much success as Beck in really delivering victories against the Obama administration. That has to count for something. Beck has Stu, and Stu is far more level headed, and Beck has him to pull him back if he gets to far “out there”; Beck has admitted as much. We’ll see. Regardless, should be exciting!
Weight of Glory on March 8, 2010 at 7:05 PM
I don’t know. One thing is that it is a PR mess for the Dems at this point. It uses up their time and energy to clean this up.
The overall impression is that whoever is lying and to what extent, there is a huge amount of shady dealing going on with health care.
INC on March 8, 2010 at 7:05 PM
I am not the biggest fan of Beck, and I think he is walking the edge of a knife here. I’m on the fence as to whether or not this is a bad idea. I suppose if he does as you suggest (AP) I think it will go well. If he is looking for anything else… I think he will be stepping on a big landmine. I with you and Michelle. Caution is first and foremost in my mind, especially given the source.
Gatsu on March 8, 2010 at 7:06 PM
Beck believes in redemption. Malkin, not so much.
RBMN on March 8, 2010 at 7:06 PM
If it’s what he says it is then he should delay his resignation for 3 weeks and vote NO!
Denverslim on March 8, 2010 at 7:06 PM
Wow, such a negative article.
Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter on March 8, 2010 at 7:07 PM
Better to have Bathtub Boy interview Shower Man, perhaps?
JammieWearingFool on March 8, 2010 at 7:07 PM
Not to be so cynical as to suggest that ratings are important, but IF his ratings tank, then yes…
MeatHeadinCA on March 8, 2010 at 7:07 PM
bad idea? You guys better start playing for keepers. Politcs is not a day at a picnic.
Use him, tar the dems has filth.
This would be like anti-smoking nuts not using a ceo that came out and explained what the tobacco companies did to increase addiction.
unseen on March 8, 2010 at 7:07 PM
Your Beck hatred is clouding your vision again… First of all, Beck repeatedly said tonight that he doesn’t know this guy, and I expect (and will be proven right tomorrow) that he’s not going to softball this guy. He’ll hit him on being in bed with unions, he’ll discuss the ethics issues, but why should he not have a eye witness to unprecedented corruption come on and give his first hand account?
I know you don’t know this because you never watch the show (which is evident any time you talk about it), but one of the biggest themes on Beck’s show is corruption and the “Chicago Way’s” move to Washington.
RightWinged on March 8, 2010 at 7:07 PM
Huh? Really?
MeatHeadinCA on March 8, 2010 at 7:08 PM
Does it matter if it is a bad idea? Aren’t we kinda in SERIOUS times here?
I say everybody try everything to kill this thing.
Elizabetty on March 8, 2010 at 7:08 PM
Massa’s resignation is the first “victory” Nancy Pelosi has had in this final battle for Obamacare. So far as I’ve heard, no other Democrat has flipped from “no” to “yes”, and several have gone the other way. I think it’s important to deny her this victory, lest she build up momentum. So by all means, it makes sense to stoke Massa’s defiance and reward him for trashing Obama and Pelosi. He didn’t actually formally resign today, did he?
joe_doufu on March 8, 2010 at 7:08 PM
i don’t understand why the whole hour. is beck going to talk policy in addition, maybe bring up the michelle stuff?
taking apart a confused progressive could be kind of fun
r keller on March 8, 2010 at 7:09 PM
Exit question: Is this a bad idea or not?
As you noted, it’s all going to be in how Beck plays it. Bet the shows numbers go WAY UP tomorrow. Obama could only HOPE to have those numbers for his recent “speeches”.
GarandFan on March 8, 2010 at 7:09 PM
The wonderful thing, however, is that the news cycle is going to be driven by Massa’s comments on Beck’s show. And that is NOT what Obama wants. They were hoping that this week would be all about Obama in cherry picked settings of adoring fans shouting, “Give us health care from your stash, Obama!” Instead the news is going to be about naked rendezvous with the chief of staff.
Weight of Glory on March 8, 2010 at 7:09 PM
This will be an interesting test for the netroots. I mean, this cat did want single-payer and a stronger “cap and trade” bill, no?
toliver on March 8, 2010 at 7:09 PM
Bad idea.
The ends only justify the means if it’s the last end.
Let’s have a solid victory over health care, not one Democrats can blame on this alleged creep in 20 years.
Scranton on March 8, 2010 at 7:10 PM
The real question is,
Is this a set up, or not?
Are Donks that clever?
Haiku Guy on March 8, 2010 at 7:10 PM
Wow. Who knows, but it sure as heck is entertaining. If it weren’t so scary, I’d be getting great pleasure out of watching Obama’s presidency fall apart.
keebs on March 8, 2010 at 7:10 PM
my thoughts exactly
jbh45 on March 8, 2010 at 7:10 PM
That’s the problem, AP for whatever reason refuses to acknowledge what’s at stake and what is truly going on in Washington right now.
RightWinged on March 8, 2010 at 7:12 PM
its a good idea,, I don’t trust the guy but let him speak, I am sure there will be plenty of scrambling and half denials as spill the beans, by the way, just having a guy speak does not mean you agree everything he says is true.
rob verdi on March 8, 2010 at 7:12 PM
Massa might just be the Out that dems have been looking for to abandon the Chicago Jesus.
Could this be the Left’s “Christopher Buckley endorses Obama” moment?
portlandon on March 8, 2010 at 7:13 PM
If I’m wrong, I’ll be happy to admit it. But the impression I get is that Malkin does not easily let go of grudges. She’s still a great writer on culture and politics.
RBMN on March 8, 2010 at 7:13 PM
Beck is shrewd. He should do fine.
Considering that only Fox News, Drudge, and talk radio are reporting this….GREAT IDEA. Let EVERYONE hear what Massa has to say and make up their own minds (emphasis on “EVERYONE hear”)
conservative pilgrim on March 8, 2010 at 7:14 PM
Check out the photo at Rush’s site. Scroll down.
JammieWearingFool on March 8, 2010 at 7:14 PM
Lets see….Allah who handles a blog, is giving advise to a guy who has his own radio program and a runaway hit on nation wide cable.
Hell, what could go wrong?
csdeven on March 8, 2010 at 7:14 PM
nah, just let the dems rip themselves apart. The American voter is smart enough to see these morons for what they are….uh, morons.
jbh45 on March 8, 2010 at 7:14 PM
IDK maybe, but I thought she was a Christian, so doesn’t she have to believe in some sort of redemption…?
MeatHeadinCA on March 8, 2010 at 7:14 PM
I’m all for this distraction from Obamas adoring town hall coverage. It makes me sick to hear the MSM coverage of these staged events as being spirited and meaningful. Sure to a hand picked group of his minions Obama does look like God. Massa makes it more interesting to say the least. The things he has said happened must have at least some truth to them. We will see.
sandee on March 8, 2010 at 7:14 PM
Yes!
IrishEi on March 8, 2010 at 7:14 PM
As the saying goes, the enemy of my enemy is my friend or politics makes strange bedfellows. Take your pick.
Glenn Beck is a modern day muckraker! More power to him!
sarahpalinfan99 on March 8, 2010 at 7:14 PM
If it can be shown that the release was based on his failing to support HC, I think it is a good idea. Not only does it expose corruption in the democrat party for having witheld the information originally, but shows them as crass for releasing it when they did.
Vashta.Nerada on March 8, 2010 at 7:15 PM
Dude, you know how funny it’d be if Beck did the interview from behind a shower curtain? Or maybe he can were that costume from the Karate Kid. Or at the end of the interview give Massa a towel or soap-on-a-rope. You can have a lot of fun with this one!
Weight of Glory on March 8, 2010 at 7:15 PM
Could easily back-fire. After the democratsocialists display all teh gayness stuff, then they will say the right-wing Nazis embraced Massa.
However, it’s obvious to any coherent person (sorry, Robert KKK Byrd and Ruth Ginsberg) that the only reason he’s being forced out is because he’s a NO vote. Otherwise, the new-found sense of morals from the democrats would have had them oust Rangel as well. Whenever democratsocialist find a moral compass, look out!
SouthernGent on March 8, 2010 at 7:16 PM
FIFY, but yeah… I catch your sentiments… It’s not just GB, though. I love how the “politically wise” on HA try to give their valuable advice to the pols via… blogging to the angry racist, clinging mob…
What could go wrong?
MeatHeadinCA on March 8, 2010 at 7:16 PM
With the New York Times trying to dig Rahm an early grave, will all this dust up with Massa be the tombstone for Emmanual’s White House career?
portlandon on March 8, 2010 at 7:17 PM
Or “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.”
conservative pilgrim on March 8, 2010 at 7:17 PM
I agree.
If Beck plays it like AP suggests, then this could be a savvy move on his part to shine a light on corruption from someone who knows the score.
Beck started to lay the foundation for that today I think by pointing out that Massa is not pure as the driven snow…but it’s like having someone from the mob turning state’s evidence. You know they aren’t clean but they get a pass because the information they have is damning to the people they used to do business with.
But AP is right…Beck needs to carefully balance here and not give Massa too much leeway in defending the ethics charges against him and instead focus on the inner workings of the democrat machine in Washington.
powerpro on March 8, 2010 at 7:17 PM
MM’s not holding grudges; she simply has a great memory.
IrishEi on March 8, 2010 at 7:18 PM
Good point. Beck has never made any mistakes, ever. I withdraw my advice.
Should Michelle withdraw hers too or is she prominent enough to offer criticism?
Allahpundit on March 8, 2010 at 7:18 PM
Re-reading what I just typed, I need to clarify that the “turning state’s evidence” analogy wasn’t something Beck said or inferred but rather something I came up with. So if anyone doesn’t like that analogy, blame me not Beck. ;)
powerpro on March 8, 2010 at 7:19 PM
As they pointed out on All Star panel, he resigned – ethic panel goes bye-bye. He does nothing in way of a vote now for the anti-ObamaCare forces. Will not be watching him with any more interest than I have for John Edwards.
Marcus on March 8, 2010 at 7:19 PM
If we can hand them hammers to keep up the onslaught why not?
thomasaur on March 8, 2010 at 7:19 PM
It’ll be good TV. Beck needs to ask him tough questions along with giving him time to tell his Rahmbo stories. Having him on doesn’t mean he endorses or supports the guy.
Hey, it could end up like that interview with the ACORN pervert who he ended up throwing out of the studio.
forest on March 8, 2010 at 7:20 PM
It’s definitely worth watching … The way this Massa guy was yelling he really believed what he was saying. Whether it is 100% true, well, maybe only 90%.
It sure does feed the story line that is developing about our dear reader, no one could be this stupid, it’s got to be purposeful destruction of the USA economy. Isn’t that treason?
tarpon on March 8, 2010 at 7:20 PM
Right. The Boos Emeritus isn’t holding a grudge, she’s making sure that people are wary of Massa… what he might say and what his motivations might be.
powerpro on March 8, 2010 at 7:20 PM
Or Medina…
MeatHeadinCA on March 8, 2010 at 7:21 PM
I think it has more potential to be a good idea.
It could really start the dems either pitting one against the other, or them gathering into a howling mass of crazy, and later getting really defensive about being questioned by the press one way or the other.
I can’t wait for the turdtossapoloosa to begin.
Itchee Dryback on March 8, 2010 at 7:21 PM
Err… Boss Emeritus.
Preview is my friend.
powerpro on March 8, 2010 at 7:21 PM
Beck is over the top and his shtick is getting a little old.
Serious question (and a little off topic): If the House passes the Senate bill as is with the promise changes will be made, will the senate deal makers vote for those changes?
Has Florida Nelson spoken? Landrieu? Sanders?
These people signed off on the Senate bill with the understanding their states would get special treatment. What happens if the “reconciliation” effort strips those things out of the end result?
joedoe on March 8, 2010 at 7:21 PM
Allah, I know I’m going to catch heat here, but I’m no fan of Becks. Too theatrical for me. That being said I can’t help but be curious about this Massa story.Love the distraction I guess.
sandee on March 8, 2010 at 7:21 PM
Glenn hasn’t gotten this far by being a pushover, his bat-snot meter will be in full auto and it wouldn’t surprise me to see him make mince meat out of Massa. If he can destruct the health care bill, the democrat progressives and Rahm Emannuel in one hour good for him.
fourdeucer on March 8, 2010 at 7:23 PM
I dunno…it has all the substance (zero) of Obama screaming in Pennsylvania today…but since when did that ever matter???
BigWyo on March 8, 2010 at 7:23 PM
I think Beck probably vetted Massa pretty well (as he said on his radio and t.v. shows).
There probably is a pretty hot smoking gun regarding indescretions, but Beck prefaced that quite adequately, if you listen to the link and hear the way Beck sets it up.
As squirrelly as Beck can come across, ya’ gotta give him credit as a pretty savvy businessman, if not a more than savvy media dude.
Whether Massa has misbehaved or not (I don’t mean to trivialize any rotten behavior), I get the sense that he feels like he has been ruined beyond what is necessary and is fighting back.
What I’m hearing is that we have a man who feels his reputation is in tatters and has nothing to lose. A cornered animal is going to take as many of his assailants as he can down with him. That’s sort of my take of where Massa is.
Keep in mind Beck saying (early on) that even if someone has been a part of the problem, if they are willing to come clean, and say, “No masse”, the American people will stand behind them.
My exit question…what are the chances that Massa could be one of those that Beck called for early last year to anonymously contact his folks and become the “re-framers?”
Chewy the Lab on March 8, 2010 at 7:24 PM
Stupid or not, it’ll be hilarious to watch!!!
deidre on March 8, 2010 at 7:25 PM
No matter how it plays out, I’ve got my popcorn layed out.
GarandFan on March 8, 2010 at 7:25 PM
Dude, Beck had Gov. Blagojevich on his show so why not Massa?
deidre on March 8, 2010 at 7:26 PM
Yup and yup
MeatHeadinCA on March 8, 2010 at 7:26 PM
Just bring him on and begin the show by telling him that you will not be discussing the ethics violations, at all, until the House finishes its investigation.
thphilli on March 8, 2010 at 7:27 PM
I think Chris Matthews just said he forgot Sandra Bullock was a woman for five minutes. Maybe not……
joedoe on March 8, 2010 at 7:27 PM
I think I missed that one… Honestly, who is more credible? Blago or Massa?
Now, what would be interesting is if there was a shower scene with Blago (shampooing), Massa, Rangel, Paterson, and of course Rahm.
MeatHeadinCA on March 8, 2010 at 7:28 PM
Whither the Hillary/Obama 08 Primary?
lansing quaker on March 8, 2010 at 7:28 PM
It won’t matter if it’s a good or bad idea. Glenn Beck will wipe out Obama’s healthcare press crusade for the entire week with a one hour show.
dddave on March 8, 2010 at 7:29 PM
Maybe we can get the guys from Barney Miller to give him a “Voice stress analysis”.
huckleberryfriend on March 8, 2010 at 7:29 PM
I am inclined to go with Michelle on this one. Massa is a foul, corrupt politician of the worst sort. While I enjoy some of what Glen Beck does, and even believe some of it, giving the creep Massa a podium to shout from is wrong, and unnecessary. Let the creep stew in his own filth.
Rode Werk on March 8, 2010 at 7:29 PM
I didn’t think of it that way… Hmmm…
MeatHeadinCA on March 8, 2010 at 7:30 PM
‘Zackly.
I think Beck is doing this, in part, for his own enjoyment.
It’ll be like dragging a stick across the bars of the monkey cage just to get them jumping around, doing stationary flips or slapping their own heads and howling.
Itchee Dryback on March 8, 2010 at 7:30 PM
I think that’s the issue in the house. I listened to some of Rush today, and according to him, some Dems want these promises of added ammendments later, in writing. However, it’s his belief, that Obama will screw them. He’ll tell them what he needs to, to get them to vote on the Senate version…as is. Once they do, it’s a done deal, and they’ll move on. Never offering to add what the Dems in the House want.
It’s going to get even more tense I think. I’m stocking up on rolaids.
capejasmine on March 8, 2010 at 7:30 PM
<blockquoteWhich, as the boss emeritus takes great pains to demonstrate, is an exceedingly bad idea:
Yep…huge backfire potential here by taking this degenerate worm at his word…he’s just a lefty pitching a tantrum…can’t believe a thing this guy says…and he’s saying nothing we don’t already know anyway. I just don’t think Glenn get’s it.
AUINSC on March 8, 2010 at 7:31 PM
You’ve obviously thought this through Allahpundit, right? Excellent boundaries. Can it be done? We’ll know all about it by this time tomorrow, won’t we?
Americannodash on March 8, 2010 at 7:31 PM
ROFL!!! I love the visual image that conjures up. LOL
capejasmine on March 8, 2010 at 7:31 PM
It’s a win-win. Spotlighting Massa brings a bold, fresh reminder of the Dems’ sleazy dealing on Obamacare(less), to do whatever it takes to pass it, or a reminder of the general Dem sleaze, including Massa himself, along with the rest of them — Rangel, Edwards, Spitzer, Paterson, Blago, etc.
Yes, Beck may have exaggerated the meaning of Massa’s coming out, no pun intended, and it will grab ratings, but the last thing Obama, Pelosi, and Reid want right now is this.
TXUS on March 8, 2010 at 7:32 PM
By all means, give the man his rope. Let Massa spill his guts about anything we could potentially use against this corrupt administration.
Guardian on March 8, 2010 at 7:33 PM
I’ve been very surprised at the lack of interest in this story from those on the right.
It seems people are missing the point. The issue is not whether or not this guy is a far-left corruptocrat with an affinity for men…
The point is this is the THIRD time that we KNOW OF that Democrats have been ATTACKED & DESTOYED by the White House.
1. Patterson. An obvious White House hit.
2. Sestak. Bribed not to run against Specter by the White House.
3. Messa. Run out of town with information that everyone knew about because he was no longer an asset to the White House.
Does anyone else see a pattern here?
Dorvillian on March 8, 2010 at 7:34 PM
Ummmm; Beck had been one of the most powerful and successful counter forces we have for the progressive attack on America. I will go along with Beck 100%. Beck and Breitbart should be considered in a very good light by all of who feel helpless against the Obama-Pelosi_Reid-Soros attacks…
Keemo on March 8, 2010 at 7:34 PM
The key to whether this is a good idea, or not, is whether one believes Massa, or not. I don’t even see any consideration of this in the post.
neurosculptor on March 8, 2010 at 7:34 PM
If it helps stop obamacare it is worth the risk…don’t forget what is at stake…the USA
winston on March 8, 2010 at 7:35 PM
This is a good idea.
As Michelle herself has said “Sunlight is the best disinfectant”.
Bring out the sun…… shine on all the evil that is being done.
Massa, sing like a canary and don’t stop.
.
ms on March 8, 2010 at 7:35 PM
I like beck so I hope massa cancels out.
tim c on March 8, 2010 at 7:35 PM
You know what will be a good idea ?
Robot theater on Red Eye
with naky-naky Rham bullying naky-naky Massa
in the congressional gym …and naky-naky Bawnee trying to breakup the brawl
;)
macncheez on March 8, 2010 at 7:35 PM
I’m not sure I trust his judgment. He made a big deal about “If you expose corruption we’ll back you regardless of your sins, but you should pay too”. I’m guessing to give himself cover, as more details of Massa’s politics comes out. I saw no evidence that Beck is aware just how radical Massa is. Granted I missed the ending.
Massa is trying to get payback at the scum who burned him.I can appreciate it. Hopefully Beck can keep things on target and use Massa to blast the libtards.
Iblis on March 8, 2010 at 7:35 PM
Speaking of Fox shows … Why was all of Fox dumping on Geert Wilders, today, including Beck warning against him? That was really odd.
neurosculptor on March 8, 2010 at 7:36 PM
I have my tapioca pudding out, warming to room temp. Less calories, plus it can be used as a dip.
GnuBreed on March 8, 2010 at 7:36 PM
I don’t trust Massa, but there might be truth in some of what he’s saying…
Showergate!!!
MeatHeadinCA on March 8, 2010 at 7:36 PM
+1000
MeatHeadinCA on March 8, 2010 at 7:37 PM
He’s running to CNN, too. He’ll be on Larry King tomorrow night.
Haven’t read comments, yet, so forgive if that’s already been noted.
KittyLowrey on March 8, 2010 at 7:37 PM
Rahm is a dead man walking anyhow. Massa’s just helping to push him out the door.
More popcorn.
rbj on March 8, 2010 at 7:38 PM
My money is on Beck beating O’Reilly by 500,000 tomorrow.
Sugar Land on March 8, 2010 at 7:38 PM
Look, we all know Messa is a scumbag simply because he’s a filthy Progressive POS… Nobody questions that; however, if the POS is going to throw a tantrum and spill some private scoop on exactly what takes place under Obama and his Chicago mafia thugs…. Why the f**k not let em.
Keemo on March 8, 2010 at 7:38 PM
….And, yet ANOTHER I hate Glenn Beck rant. And, why, you ask…I think Allah is jealous of Massa. HE wanted to be in that shower stall with Rahm, the ballerina. Just Allah, his two cats, and a loofah.
Now, is this a bad idea?
Nope. Sing it, Massa. The rats are jumping ship…let’s hear what the booted rat has to say…..
HornetSting on March 8, 2010 at 7:39 PM
Beck is pretty experienced at dealing with nuts…I say go for it. Give Massa as much rope as he needs to hang himself and whatever Dem he wants to take with him.
d1carter on March 8, 2010 at 7:40 PM
Honestly, Just the thought of Rahm in the all-together dressing someone down???
Quite disturbing.
If the fact that he was even in the locker room/shower room naked engaging members (STOP IT RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW THAT’S NOT WHAT I MEANT!) in any sort of political discussion, um, doesn’t that strike anyone else as completely, totally unhinged?
And, more importantly, where did he have his tutu and toeshoes stashed? Hmmmmm???
Chewy the Lab on March 8, 2010 at 7:40 PM
Yeah, that was weird, but FOX does have a large Arab/Muslim investor/s and they might not be too fond of Wilders. I know Geert doesn’t like non-conforming Muslims, but I guess they’re equating assimilationists with fascists now.
Iblis on March 8, 2010 at 7:41 PM
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