Carville poll: Majority now say U.S. is less respected than it was two years ago

posted at 8:30 pm on March 8, 2010 by Allahpundit

It’s a poll of Americans, not foreigners, so it’s not so much evidence that we are less respected than that we perceive ourselves to be. I hope The One finds comfort in that fact when these numbers start to shake out in November.

Devastating.

The Democracy Corps-Third Way survey released Monday finds that by a 10-point margin — 51 percent to 41 percent — Americans think the standing of the U.S. dropped during the first 13 months of Mr. Obama’s presidency.

“This is surprising, given the global acclaim and Nobel peace prize that flowed to the new president after he took office,” said pollsters for the liberal-leaning organizations.

On the national security front, a massive gap has emerged, with 50 percent of likely voters saying Republicans would likely do a better job than Democrats, a 14-point swing since May. Thirty-three percent favored Democrats…

A May 2009 survey by the pollsters found the public saw the Democratic and Republican parties as equally able to handle national security (41 percent trusted Democrats more, and 43 percent trusted Republicans more.) On conducting the war on terrorism, the two parties were tied at 41 percent.

The GOP leads by 13 on “keeping America safe” and by 31 on “ensuring a strong military,” both traditional advantages. But on the “standing in the world” question, I’m at a loss. That issue was at the very innermost core of Bush’s poor public image; there was no bar set lower for Obama than improving international perceptions of America. Republicans can be expected to say that the country’s image has dropped, but I figured nearly 100 percent of Democrats and a heavy majority of indies would see The One as an improvement over Dubya. And yet. I can’t find crosstabs by party at the Third Way site but I assume these numbers are being driven in part by lefty disenchantment with Obama’s willingness to continue some Bush policies (Afghanistan, tribunals, drone attacks, indefinite detention, etc.). It’s still surprising that they’d say the U.S.’s image is actually worse now than under Bush, although I suppose the reasoning there is that the world had such high hopes for a kinder, gentler, more Bambi-like America and to see those dreams dashed has only made them more embittered, etc.

I’d love to see the party crosstabs on this, too. Hmmmm:

Fifty-seven percent of likely voters approve of Obama’s handling of national security—ten points higher than his general 47 percent approval rating, according to a new Democracy Corps/GQR/Third Way poll out Monday.

Where Obama loses: interrogation and prosecution of terrorism suspects, where a 51-44 percent majority disapproves. Republicans have hammered the administration for its decision to read the alleged Christmas Day bomber his Miranda rights, and the poll results show the message is sticking…

The memo, prepared by veteran Democratic pollsters Stan Greenberg and Jeremy Rosner, advises Democrats to avoid what has so far been one of their key counter-arguments: Comparing the underwear bomber to so-called shoe bomber Richard Reid, who was read his Miranda rights after the Bush administration arrested him. “Voters resist the argument that the Obama administration simply handled the Christmas bomber in the same way the Bush administration handled the ‘shoe bomber’ case; this sounds political, and produces a weak response,” they wrote.

In a sane world, these numbers would give Lindsey Graham all the reason he needs to walk away from the “compromise” to bring detainees to Illinois in exchange for trying KSM in a tribunal. Although, with numbers this bad, Obama may walk away from closing Gitmo himself. He can rationalize making a move that looks “weak” if he’s perceived as strong in other areas of national security, but with a 14-point swing since last year, he has to do something. Democrats already walk with a limp because of O-Care; with their other leg now wobbling too, they’ll collapse by November without some help.

Exit question: Who wants to volunteer to teach tenderhearted Democrats how to talk tough on terrorism? (Pssst: Don’t mention jihad.)


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because I think most of this country doesn’t respect Obama either! Yep! Right on the money!

Vntnrse on March 8, 2010 at 11:37 PM

Bloviating is nothing to respect. How the voters fell for it is not a good sign about their intelligence. However, they woke up now.

Schadenfreude on March 9, 2010 at 12:38 AM

51 percent to 41 percent — Americans think the standing of the U.S. dropped during the first 13 months of Mr. Obama’s presidency.

That phrasing isn’t about what Americans think non-Americans think less of us. It is asking about how we feel about our standing. Americans now believe we are weaker.

That means our standing is actually weaker.

I feel weaker. I’m horribly embarrassed that Obama bows to everyone. And that he disses our friends and appeases our enemies. We are weak under this president. We are weak little kittens on the world stage.

As a measurement of how Americans feel about our actual place in the world I think that is pretty accurate.

petunia on March 9, 2010 at 12:49 AM

So much,for Hopey/Changeys World Apology Tour!!

Me thinks,Catostrophic Miscalculated BackFire!!

canopfor on March 9, 2010 at 12:51 AM

“This is surprising, given the global acclaim and Nobel peace prize that flowed to the new president after he took office massive propaganda campaign we have launched in order to brainwash America into accepting Obama and glorifying socialism,” said pollsters for the liberal-leaning organizations.

Mr Purple on March 9, 2010 at 4:27 AM

Third Way was founded by James Carville.Hmmm.Know wonder they were surprised by the poll results.

DDT on March 9, 2010 at 7:22 AM

51 percent to 41 percent — Americans think the standing of the U.S. dropped during the first 13 months of Mr. Obama’s presidency

Clearly the majority of us are racists that are just seething a black man is in office. We should be embracing the change that comes during this historic turn and use it to launch into the most honest post-partisan administration seen in the two centuries of the Republic.

highhopes on March 9, 2010 at 7:28 AM

Me thinks,Catostrophic Miscalculated BackFire!!

canopfor on March 9, 2010 at 12:51 AM

I think it is simpler than that. Obama doesn’t care what Americans think. He’s the “cool hip internationalist” who is willing to take America down a peg or two as all the cool kids in Europe want. Obama rejects American exceptionalism in favor of Soviet-style socialism as practiced in such thriving nations as France.

And if we Americans are just too damned stupid and parochial to understand that we suck, Obama will just have to load up his fat-arsed wife and bratty kids and go on yet another taxpayer-paid vacation to some distant location willing to hear the message about how evil this nation is.

highhopes on March 9, 2010 at 7:54 AM

Seems to me the “World” looked up to the U.S. precisely because we weren’t like Europe. As exemplified by Reagan, we had resolve and were strong in our efforts in not being trampled on. This 98 pound weakling has them laughing the world over. He’s killing the strongest country on Earth because it deserves it, being a really mean country and all. Lech Walensa said not too long ago people of the world looked to the US for strength and common sense, and that’s not the case anymore. I laugh when I think of the campaign and everything was going to be candy cane rainbows and chocolate rivers once the Messiah took over. How’s that “Hope and Change” going over worldwide? I think if the election were held today, and Bush was eligible to run, the One would lose in a landslide. “Miss me yet?” In a one word answer, YES. History will be kind to Bush, as long as the Commies don’t have a hand in writing it….Just heard the Empty Suit speaking(yelling and preaching actually,CAMPAIGNING for the 38th time(this guy only knows the campaign snake oil routine for the ignorant)for his healthcare debacle) on the telly. He’s now employing his Malcolm X voice to show he’s serious. He goes “blacker” when he’s upset and angry. Got about six different accents to use at different venues. Reagan and Bush never had that psychological problem…….

adamsmith on March 9, 2010 at 8:12 AM

Well, when you have a POTUS like B.O. go from having our National Anthem as Francis Scott Key’s “Oh Say Can you see, By The Dawn’s Early Light…” to Peggy Lee’s “I’m Sorry! So Sorry! Please Accept My Apology…” what the heck do you think the rest of the world is going to think of us as a nation?

pilamaye on March 9, 2010 at 8:14 AM

52% of Americans traded the respectibility we had for a likeability that was promised and now we have neither.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on March 8, 2010 at 10:09 PM

I think there is a moral there somewhere, but it’s late …..

whbates on March 8, 2010 at 11:17 PM

I think the moral is similar to the moral about the dog with a bone who saw his reflection: the bone in the water (likeability) was a mirage and when the dog (America) went after it, it lost the bone it had in its mouth (respectibility), thus ending up with nothing. 52% of America bought the hopeychangey and many have realized it was a mirage *and* that they would rather have respect than be liked, afterall. A tough lesson to learn; hopefully it sticks.

A country that kowtows seeking to be liked will be in the end disdained.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on March 9, 2010 at 8:21 AM

Bloviating is nothing to respect. How the voters fell for it is not a good sign about their intelligence. However, they woke up now.

Schadenfreude on March 9, 2010 at 12:38 AM

.
“…they woke up now.”
.
But will be fooled again, and again.

Dasher on March 9, 2010 at 8:34 AM

My wife and I have several friends living abroad due to the work environment here in America. They all tell us the same story. The primary question is “WTF, how could Americans elect such a man for potus when he lacked the credentials, was not qualified, and was a known radical.”

Basically, foreigners blame the American people and have lost much confidence in a people they once looked up to with great respect. Instead of being a hard working & great achieving society, far too many have become a lazy and needy people perfectly happy to receive a government handout for doing nothing while yelling from the roof-top about their victim status.

I shake my head and offer little or no argument.

Keemo on March 9, 2010 at 8:39 AM

The UN as it exists now is a teethless and weak organization.

It is pretty harmless.

nyx on March 8, 2010 at 9:05 PM

The best thing about the UN is it is run by incompetents. That limits the damage it can do.

On the other hand Congress is also run by incompetents which maximizes the damage it can do.

Dasher on March 9, 2010 at 8:44 AM

In my opinion, accepting the Nobel Peace Prize was when it really started to come apart for Obama.

Even his supporters knew that he had done nothing to earn this once prestigious award and were more than willing to say so.

MarkTheGreat on March 9, 2010 at 9:11 AM

But, but, but; Al Qaeda respects us more.
Screw China and the E.U.

Cybergeezer on March 9, 2010 at 9:44 AM

Wasn’t that the objective? He won.

kens on March 9, 2010 at 10:02 AM