Heart-ache: Not Gadahn?

posted at 5:43 pm on March 7, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Whenever it comes to Adam Gadahn, appearances are always deceiving, it seems.  First he’s dead, then he’s alive; then he’s out of the Taliban leadership, then back in.  Now it seems that despite earlier reports, the Taliban commander captured by the ISI is not Gadahn, at least according to CBS (via JWF):

An “important Taliban militant” was arrested today in Pakistan. But that is where the confusion started.

Earlier it was reported by Pakistani media that intelligence agents had arrested Adam Gadahn, the American-born spokesman for al Qaeda, in an operation in the southern city of Karachi.

It was further reported by the Associated Press and Reuters that Gadahn had been arrested, sourcing security officials.

CBS News was told by sources in the Pakistan government that it was Gadahn, even after U.S. officials refused to confirm it was the California native for whom a $1 million reward has been posted.

Now, CBS News’ Farhan Bokhari in Islamabad writes that earlier reports the detained individual was Gadahn proved false. According to a Pakistan security official who spoke with CBS News on condition of anonymity, the arrested individual is in fact “a Taliban militant leader who is known as Abu Yahya.”

Maybe we should have asked Radar Online?

However, don’t lose hope. Apparently, this Abu Yahya is still a big enough figure to be an important capture, if it’s not really Gadahn.  CBS also warns that it still could be Gadahn, but that we won’t know until Pakistan produces the detainee publicly.  When might that be?  I’m going to keep a close eye on Radar to find out.

Update: CNN at 6 pm ET reports that a “senior Pakistani government official” insists it’s Gadahn.

Update II: So does McClatchy at around 7 pm ET, citing multiple Pakistani sources.


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The White House is breathing a sigh of relief… and I’m really bummed out about this. I wanted this traitor waterboarded and executed.

El_Terrible on March 7, 2010 at 5:46 PM

Again?

chewydog on March 7, 2010 at 5:46 PM

Our own resident BL@KBIRD called this one on the other thread… or should I say, his coin did:

I’ve flipped a coin seven times now to determine whether to believe this Muslim story. It keeps coming up tails…don’t believe them. Should I just keep flipping it?

BL@KBIRD on March 7, 2010 at 1:35 PM

July 10 on March 7, 2010 at 5:47 PM

Maybe we should have asked Radar Online?

Or we should ask HotAir since you were trumpeting it as fact. Don’t you think it’s the height of hypocrisy to throw snide remarks at Radar for jumping the gun while you’re doing the same thing?

Darth Executor on March 7, 2010 at 5:47 PM

Too bad. Still not a bad after dinner mint.

Someone needs to recall Gloria Allred from the airport.

R Square on March 7, 2010 at 5:47 PM

Looks like we need to shake down Karachi.

BottomLine5 on March 7, 2010 at 5:47 PM

Wait for it…

“… Unexpected.”

Seven Percent Solution on March 7, 2010 at 5:47 PM

Ed. Leave Radar Alone!

chaswv on March 7, 2010 at 5:48 PM

Whoever it turns out to be, hopefully the Obama administration won’t frick this opportunity up by rushing a friend of Eric Holder over to make sure he has all the rights they can afford him, plus some.

In fact, if liberals treated terrorist with the same hatred and disdain as they treat republicans, they’d be considered a formidable force in the fight on terror.

BruthaMan on March 7, 2010 at 5:48 PM

Are you f**king kidding me?

russcote on March 7, 2010 at 5:49 PM

I wanted this traitor waterboarded and executed.

I like the idea and think we could accomplish both in a matter of minutes.

R Square on March 7, 2010 at 5:49 PM

C-BS “News”?

I’d wait for additional sources.

Del Dolemonte on March 7, 2010 at 5:50 PM

So … was this guy Pennsylvania-born or not?

My prescription for Gadhan still goes. The Pakistanis need to beat every bit of information out of this guy and then end his miserable existence.

neurosculptor on March 7, 2010 at 5:52 PM

I will wait for confirmation but it sounds like someone might have got excited and jumped the gun….if this isn’t Gadahn let’s hope it is soon or as Maureen Dowd writes…Inshallah

Dr Evil on March 7, 2010 at 5:52 PM

Darth Executor on March 7, 2010 at 5:47 PM

No, I didn’t. I expressed skepticism over the initial report, especially over the differences in names, and then linked to AP and NBC. In my second post, I noted that it had been “mostly confirmed.” I never said it was a “fact.”

Ed Morrissey on March 7, 2010 at 5:52 PM

Ed. Leave Radar Alone!

chaswv on March 7, 2010 at 5:48 PM

Well if he wants to determine if something could be true checking Radar online and going with the opposite they report might actually be favorable odds.

Dr Evil on March 7, 2010 at 5:54 PM

I also updated in my link the FBI said they can’t confirm it. One of the initial sources today (NBC, I believe) indicated someone had seen photos of him. Who knows. We’ll know for certain if he pops up in another video.

JammieWearingFool on March 7, 2010 at 5:57 PM

Dr Evil on March 7, 2010 at 5:54 PM

I think I agreee but my run on sentence is obfuscating that fact maybe.

Seriously, I love Ed, my Captian. We are right, k?

chaswv on March 7, 2010 at 5:58 PM

Forgot the FBI link.

The U.S. hasn’t confirmed the arrest of Adam Gadahn, the U.S.-born spokesman for the al-Qaeda terrorist network, Federal Bureau of Investigation spokesman William Carter said.

The FBI is getting reports of an individual “with a similar-sounding name,” Carter said in an e-mail. “However, we are checking with Pakistani authorities to confirm one way or the other.”

JammieWearingFool on March 7, 2010 at 5:59 PM

The greatest ally our enemies have…

… is our own “Free and Independent” press with a political agenda and the intelligence of a gnat.

If only the Taliban and Al Qaeda were treated like Sarah Palin or at worst, President George W. Bush…

… we could have used nuclear weapons, no one would have blinked an eye, and this war would have been over seven years ago.

Seven Percent Solution on March 7, 2010 at 6:00 PM

3… 2… 1… MSNBC reports he’s a teabagger!

DANEgerus on March 7, 2010 at 6:00 PM

The Karachi Burger King confirms their standing order for 3 Triple Kebabs w/ extra pickles, lg fries, coke remains for next Friday night. Damn.

JiangxiDad on March 7, 2010 at 6:01 PM

Perhaps they are denying it because they don’t want to tip off the other “bad guys” and cause them to destroy evidence and flee in to the hills.

It would not be the first time we have done that. Plus the “electronic chatter” of the capture probably created some “buzz” amongst the bad guys and that is valuable as well. There is a method to the seeming madness. Chess anyone?

AnthonyK on March 7, 2010 at 6:02 PM

3… 2… 1… MSNBC reports he’s a teabagger!

DANEgerus on March 7, 2010 at 6:00 PM

Pretty much. I heard he had just come out of the shower and from that event the towel-head garb appeared. He was wearing boxers, mam. I mean senator.

chaswv on March 7, 2010 at 6:02 PM

[quote] In my second post, I noted that it had been “mostly confirmed.” I never said it was a “fact.”

Ed Morrissey on March 7, 2010 at 5:52 PM[/quote]

Weak. Radar didn’t say “it was fact” either, they just said they “learned it exclusively”. 8-)

Actually you never said it had been “mostly confirmed” either, you said NBC/AP confirms it and then went on to act as if it was confirmed information in subsequent updates.

Your use of the weasel word “mostly” notwithstanding, you also screwed up (which is understandable, it happens) because it wasn’t and isn’t “mostly confirmed” at all. What I don’t understand is why you feel the need to deflect your screw-up on Radar. It just strikes me as something an extremely petty sore loser would do and really not like you at all.

Darth Executor on March 7, 2010 at 6:02 PM

Here a Wiki-page for Abu Yahya al Libi. It’s a lousy pic but there is a minor resemblance. Ignore the cr$ap about Fat Bastard, some idiot is messing up the page.

If it is this one, it’s a pretty good catch.

Oh, here’s Global Security’s page on al Libi.

Dusty on March 7, 2010 at 6:03 PM

In other news, the catpure infamous Bedrock born terrorist know as Yaba Dabado (born as Fredrick Joseph Flintstone) was touted by the 0bama administration as a great victory in the War on Man Caused Disasters.

Wolftech on March 7, 2010 at 6:03 PM

Do we have an American James Bond? I sure hope so.

chaswv on March 7, 2010 at 6:03 PM

Ed. Leave Radar Alone!

chaswv on March 7, 2010 at 5:48 PM

Hehehe

MeatHeadinCA on March 7, 2010 at 6:04 PM

Adam Gadahn is/was just a spokesperson He’s never been a commander of anything as far as I know. I’ll settle for a bona fide Taliban commander with blood on his hands over Gadahn any day.

Guardian on March 7, 2010 at 6:06 PM

Guardian on March 7, 2010 at 6:06 PM

So he’s is like Gibbs? No command?

chaswv on March 7, 2010 at 6:07 PM

Taliban commander, rockycave salimander.

chaswv on March 7, 2010 at 6:09 PM

I wanted this traitor waterboarded and executed.

El_Terrible on March 7, 2010 at 5:46 PM

How is it that you think this is even a possibility under th current administration? Not said snidely…just…sadly. I’d love to see this, as well.

Diane on March 7, 2010 at 6:11 PM

*the

Diane on March 7, 2010 at 6:12 PM

8 minutes ago on Twitter: EdMorrissey CNN reports that Pakistan insists that they have Gadahn. Well, I guess we’ll see when they produce him.

AnthonyK on March 7, 2010 at 6:15 PM

I’ll await further confirmation/denial.

rbj on March 7, 2010 at 6:15 PM

Dusty on March 7, 2010 at 6:03 PM

From that wiki page you linked:

“He’s a warrior. He’s a poet. He’s a scholar. He’s a pundit. He’s a military commander. And he’s a very charismatic, young, brash rising star within Al-Qaeda, and I think he has become the heir apparent to Osama bin Laden in terms of taking over the entire global jihadist movement.” – Jarret Brachman, CIA

Sounds like an introduction at the Oscars! Sheesh.

July 10 on March 7, 2010 at 6:16 PM

So the AQ7 were all suited up with no place to go. Big sigh of relief emanating from the left.

fourdeucer on March 7, 2010 at 6:17 PM

I book flight to PAK. So maybe I bring ACLU justice to PAK opressed. I work for large DC firm and I look for USA DOJ job because federal government pay more than capitalist pig private sector. /sarc

chaswv on March 7, 2010 at 6:21 PM

JiangxiDad on March 7, 2010 at 6:19 PM

Did you comment on Axlerod’s Hitler hair?

chaswv on March 7, 2010 at 6:23 PM

JiangxiDad on March 7, 2010 at 6:19 PM

Don’t go. AP is a jerk sometimes.

gh on March 7, 2010 at 6:23 PM

I still say “whoever it is” will get an invitation to the next State Dinner.

Vntnrse on March 7, 2010 at 6:23 PM

Paging Reverend Wrong – Not g*d damn America…

Ga dahn America!

singlemalt_18 on March 7, 2010 at 6:25 PM

JiangxiDad on March 7, 2010 at 6:19 PM

Hang on J-Dad, we need your input to keep things lively.

thomasaur on March 7, 2010 at 6:26 PM

JiangxiDad on March 7, 2010 at 6:19 PM

Don’t do it, JiangxiDad. We need the sane people to stick around.

neurosculptor on March 7, 2010 at 6:26 PM

I sense an uneasy feeling of hostility on this thread…

bernzright777 on March 7, 2010 at 6:27 PM

I sense an uneasy feeling of hostility on this thread…

bernzright777 on March 7, 2010 at 6:27 PM

It is called the skepticism wrought of the 2nd Amendment.

chaswv on March 7, 2010 at 6:32 PM

JiangxiDad on March 7, 2010 at 6:19 PM

Good riddance.

rjl1999 on March 7, 2010 at 6:32 PM

Sounds like an introduction at the Oscars! Sheesh.

July 10 on March 7, 2010 at 6:16 PM

I thought that it was a Kristoferson song.

thomasaur on March 7, 2010 at 6:33 PM

I thought that it was a Kristoferson song.

thomasaur on March 7, 2010 at 6:33 PM

I think it was ‘The Wreck that was the Teddy K.’

chaswv on March 7, 2010 at 6:36 PM

Hostility? What is your attitude toward people who want to force you into Islam or, if you do not submit, kill you?

Pelayo on March 7, 2010 at 6:37 PM

I’m going to keep a close eye on Radar to find out.

Someone’s being facetious tonight… hehe!

ted c on March 7, 2010 at 6:39 PM

Ga dahn America!

singlemalt_18 on March 7, 2010 at 6:25 PM

America’s muttonsssssss..are coming home to roast !!!!

macncheez on March 7, 2010 at 6:40 PM

A bit OT, but did anyone see Romney get destroyed by Chris Wallace on FOX News Sunday over RomneyCare?

takeamericabackin10 on March 7, 2010 at 6:41 PM

You got me wrong, I meant hostility among we H/A folks.
Hell, I’d be the first to dip a FMJ in pigs blood, chamber the round, and kill the friggin Islamoterrorists myself! (shoulda been more clear on that, my bad).

bernzright777 on March 7, 2010 at 6:42 PM

I like the CNN pic heading up this thread, showing the transformation of this clown from right to left.

I’ll say this for him- He certainly makes one ugly-assed woman.

justltl on March 7, 2010 at 6:46 PM

Does he have any thing that could be prove that he is done. I am think of Uday Hussein and his medal leg.

Until that is is displayed to Gadahn he might of well be hiding out with Elvis and Hoffa. They might confirm that they found Jimmy Hoffa before we see if they confirm Gadahn.

tjexcite on March 7, 2010 at 6:47 PM

America’s muttonsssssss..are coming home to roast !!!!

macncheez on March 7, 2010 at 6:40 PM

+1

You can’t fool all of the sheeple.

And now you’ve got me craving some roasted leg of lamb!

singlemalt_18 on March 7, 2010 at 6:52 PM

I’m always late to the party. What the hell happen with JiangxiDad?

katy on March 7, 2010 at 6:52 PM

Why do you guys always spell it “heart-ache”? I always thought it was a single word: heartache.

disa on March 7, 2010 at 6:53 PM

I’m always late to the party. What the hell happen with JiangxiDad?

katy on March 7, 2010 at 6:52 PM

I’m confused as well. Also, where’s Allahpundit?

Monica on March 7, 2010 at 6:54 PM

Does he have any thing that could be prove that he is done. I am think of Uday Hussein and his medal leg.

tjexcite on March 7, 2010 at 6:47 PM

Wot?

justltl on March 7, 2010 at 6:54 PM

Isn’t “Abu Yahya” an alias of Gadahn?

So it either is him or somebody with the same name.

BlameAmericaLast on March 7, 2010 at 6:55 PM

Why do you guys always spell it “heart-ache”? I always thought it was a single word: heartache.

disa on March 7, 2010 at 6:53 PM

Strunk – Elements of Style, that’s my guess.

singlemalt_18 on March 7, 2010 at 6:55 PM

I still say “whoever it is” will get an invitation to the next State Dinner.

Vntnrse on March 7, 2010 at 6:23 PM

Why wait for an invitation when you can just sneak in?

trigon on March 7, 2010 at 6:55 PM

Why do you guys always spell it “heart-ache”? I always thought it was a single word: heartache.

disa on March 7, 2010 at 6:53 PM

Both are correct. Did you skip English in high school? =P

BlameAmericaLast on March 7, 2010 at 6:57 PM

Monica on March 7, 2010 at 6:54 PM

Not sure… but he may be polishing up his ban hammer and putting the finishing touches on the offense meter.

katy on March 7, 2010 at 7:01 PM

JiangxiDad on March 7, 2010 at 6:19 PM

Good riddance.

rjl1999 on March 7, 2010 at 6:32 PM

You are an a$$…

lovingmyUSA on March 7, 2010 at 7:03 PM

Until ABC or FOX News confirms, I’ll have to assume it’s not him.

SouthernGent on March 7, 2010 at 7:06 PM

rjl1999 on March 7, 2010 at 6:32 PM
You are an a$$…

lovingmyUSA on March 7, 2010 at 7:03 PM

At least we know who to grind up. I love when they raise their hands.

thomasaur on March 7, 2010 at 7:07 PM

Until ABC or FOX News confirms, I’ll have to assume it’s not him.

SouthernGent on March 7, 2010 at 7:06 PM

Ditto. The only thing Fox is reporting is the video this idiot made. I’ve had it on all day, and nothing since they said they were backing off the story until they could independently confirm…………..and that was this morning.

Knucklehead on March 7, 2010 at 7:13 PM

Individuals come and go and Islam remains the same. Whack a Mole.

MB4 on March 7, 2010 at 7:17 PM

There is a change in the force surrounding HA…

lovingmyUSA on March 7, 2010 at 7:21 PM

That’s no moon…..

BlameAmericaLast on March 7, 2010 at 7:28 PM

At least we know who to grind up. I love when they raise their hands.

thomasaur on March 7, 2010 at 7:07 PM

Grind up? What does that mean?

I trust they good reason to threaten a ban on JiangxiDad.
Purposing violence is rightfully not allowed here.

rjl1999 on March 7, 2010 at 7:30 PM

I trust they good reason to threaten a ban on JiangxiDad.
Purposing violence is rightfully not allowed here.

rjl1999 on March 7, 2010 at 7:30 PM

Hey look, Arianna Huffington has a HA account.

Monica on March 7, 2010 at 7:35 PM

Purposing? Did you, by any chance, mean “proposing”?

BlameAmericaLast on March 7, 2010 at 7:36 PM

Allahpundit is such a tease.

Blake on March 7, 2010 at 7:36 PM

Hey look, Arianna Huffington has a HA account.

Monica on March 7, 2010 at 7:35 PM

If you don’t like the rules don’t come to the site.

rjl1999 on March 7, 2010 at 7:38 PM

There is a change in the force surrounding HA…

lovingmyUSA on March 7, 2010 at 7:21 PM

Yep.

bernzright777 on March 7, 2010 at 7:38 PM

Um,is there anything else going on in the Middle East today that the Administration would like to direct our attention away from?

Just asking…

Bruno Strozek on March 7, 2010 at 7:38 PM

Grind up? What does that mean?

I trust they good reason to threaten a ban on JiangxiDad.
Purposing violence is rightfully not allowed here.

rjl1999 on March 7, 2010 at 7:30 PM

Be afwaid rjl1999, be berry berry afwaid. He was speaking of a MEAT GRINDER!! Yes. A meat grinder for you!

thomasaur… STOP THE HATE!! STOP THE HATE!

katy on March 7, 2010 at 7:39 PM

Purposing? Did you, by any chance, mean “proposing”?

BlameAmericaLast on March 7, 2010 at 7:36 PM

Big shot either can’t spell or use proper English, I guess.

Knucklehead on March 7, 2010 at 7:41 PM

katy on March 7, 2010 at 7:39 PM

heh!

bernzright777 on March 7, 2010 at 7:41 PM

Just asking…

Bruno Strozek on March 7, 2010 at 7:38 PM

Well, I seem to recall something about a large rocket launcher being built somewhere. But it’s obviously of no importance.

OldEnglish on March 7, 2010 at 7:45 PM

Californian liberal Ghadan has proved to be slippery as an eel. He must have slithered off into some cave.

TonyR on March 7, 2010 at 7:46 PM

I trust they good reason to threaten a ban on JiangxiDad.
Purposing violence is rightfully not allowed here.

rjl1999 on March 7, 2010 at 7:30 PM

Did you see the comment that caused the ban? JiangxiDad is a valued member here…

lovingmyUSA on March 7, 2010 at 8:07 PM

Hey look, Arianna Huffington has a HA account.

Monica on March 7, 2010 at 7:35 PM

If you don’t like the rules don’t come to the site.

rjl1999 on March 7, 2010 at 7:38 PM

Brown-nose….

lovingmyUSA on March 7, 2010 at 8:09 PM

If JiangxiDad was on Facebook, he could come on in..there is a bunch of us there…
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=193896473009&ref=ts

lovingmyUSA on March 7, 2010 at 8:19 PM

“Send them to the Iron Maiden”

“EXCELLENT”

“Execute them.”

“Bogus”

roscopico on March 7, 2010 at 8:19 PM

Update: CNN at 6 pm ET reports that a “senior Pakistani government official” insists it’s Gadahn.

Update II: So does McClatchy at around 7 pm ET, citing multiple Pakistani sources.

Is there any possibility we can bribe the Pakistanis to Water board him a few hundred times just to make sure, and for sh!ts and giggles?

Dear President Obama, The American People are really bummed out over the prolonged Health Insurance Reform Debate…how about you have some mercy, and throw us some red meat, maybe some pay preview Pakistani interrogation Smack Down?

It would really cheer the kids up. LOL!

Dr Evil on March 7, 2010 at 8:20 PM

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