Good news: Left working hard to ensure GOP blowout in Arkansas

posted at 10:09 pm on March 4, 2010 by Allahpundit

Why post on something this parochial? Three reasons. One: It’s an excuse to show you Lincoln’s new ad, which I dig. Amusing, creative, and memorable (and a none-too-subtle shot at Obama and her party). But judge for yourself. Two: Lincoln was, as I’m sure you recall, the 60th vote for cloture on Reid’s bill and she’s been taking a beating for it in polls against hypothetical Republican challengers ever since. The left’s way of saying thanks? Primarying her, of course:

Virtually overnight, outside groups have erased the seemingly insurmountable financial advantage Lincoln brought to the contest. On Tuesday, an umbrella of four labor groups that have long been frustrated over Lincoln’s refusal to support card check legislation — the AFL-CIO, Communications Workers of America, AFSCME and United Steelworkers of America — jointly announced they were each pledging to spend $1 million in an all-out effort to dislodge Lincoln.

By Wednesday morning, a coalition of liberal organizations led by MoveOn.org — which blasted out a fundraising appeal calling Lincoln “one of the worst Democratic senators” — had raised an eye-popping $1.1 million for Halter, Arkansas’s lieutenant governor, who announced his candidacy Monday…

The progressive Netroots, for its part, has embraced Halter, with Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas writing, “Bill Halter will rescue the Democratic establishment from itself and help us hold a seat Lincoln is guaranteed to lose.” Firedoglake blogger Jane Hamsher prominently featured Halter in fundraising appeals on her site and blasted Lincoln as a “corporatist.”…

“Blanche Lincoln has become the living, breathing symbol of a politician who represents the interests of their corporate donors over those of their constituents,” said Hamsher, whose Accountability Now PAC has endorsed Halter.

Three: Make a mental note of the “reality-based community’s” strategy here for the next time some concern troll on MSNBC or the New York Times op-ed page starts fretting about the conservative base’s “purity tests.” Centrist though she is, Lincoln is probably too far left to survive the red wave this November given the realities of her state; by backing a candidate even further left than she is, the nutroots is either (a) engaged in a fiendishly clever strategy to make Lincoln look right-wing to Arkansas voters by contrast or (b) all but conceding this seat to the GOP and using the primary as an opportunity to flex their muscle by bludgeoning a moderate Democrat. My money’s on the second theory. In fact, I suspect this is their way of indulging their id by trying to beat a conservative-ish candidate in an election cycle in which they know real conservatives are going to stomp them into dust. But I digress. Offhand, I can’t think of an example of the famously pure tea party doing something as stupid and self-destructive as backing a far-right candidate in a blue state just to show how “principled” they are or whatever. In which case, your exit question: Which side is the one that’s truly reality-based?

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Does Blanche Lincoln not favor June Clever or is it just me?

Dire Straits on March 4, 2010 at 10:14 PM

That’s a pretty good ad. Too bad it’s for a losing cause. ;-)

Ed Morrissey on March 4, 2010 at 10:15 PM

There is no escaping THE BUS.

hillbillyjim on March 4, 2010 at 10:15 PM

Oh darn. She isn’t wearing one of her scarves.

portlandon on March 4, 2010 at 10:17 PM

Offhand, I can’t think of an example of the famously pure tea party doing something as stupid and self-destructive as backing a far-right candidate in a blue state just to show how “principled” they are or whatever.

Doug Hoffman?

terryannonline on March 4, 2010 at 10:17 PM

Oh darn. She isn’t wearing one of her scarves.

portlandon on March 4, 2010 at 10:17 PM

+ 1 I was thinking the same thing.

Dire Straits on March 4, 2010 at 10:18 PM

Doug Hoffman?

His district wasn’t blue, though.

Allahpundit on March 4, 2010 at 10:18 PM

Interesting that in these hard economic times, the Left has all of this money to throw around on political campaigns…

… It’s almost as if those Billions of Taxpayer’s dollars for the STIMULUS Bill that went to the Union goons was intended to fill their coffers and not support hurting Americans.

Oh, wait!

Seven Percent Solution on March 4, 2010 at 10:19 PM

The nutroots are stupid. Lincoln is too far Left for AR, my home state, so Halter won’t stand a chance. John Boozman, my Congressman, will wipe the floor with either of them. The unions and moveon.org types are wasting their money here.

DerKrieger on March 4, 2010 at 10:20 PM

Which side is the one that’s truly reality-based?

Mine!

heshtesh on March 4, 2010 at 10:20 PM

Isn’t Blanche Lincoln a pro-occupation Democrat?

Makes sense that she would get a primary challenge.

Spathi on March 4, 2010 at 10:20 PM

Good news: Left working hard to ensure GOP blowout in Arkansas

Say, that is good news.

Lanceman on March 4, 2010 at 10:20 PM

Then maybe she should flip to “R”?

Good ad. Appropos.

tru2tx on March 4, 2010 at 10:20 PM

Greta aired the commercial. I liked it! And then, Dick Morris proceeded to cut Lincoln into little tiny pieces. Based on her record, that commercial makes her look like a major hypocrite. Fun stuff…

joejm65 on March 4, 2010 at 10:21 PM

Democrat’s just love to waste money, don’t they?

Knucklehead on March 4, 2010 at 10:21 PM

Don’t forget that Halter is a Clintonite and is sure to get their backing, either publicly or quietly…

Next up — Mark, son of David, Pryor…

Gohawgs on March 4, 2010 at 10:21 PM

Nice ad. As for the Left, well, they ain’t too bright.

changer1701 on March 4, 2010 at 10:22 PM

Offhand, I can’t think of an example of the famously pure tea party doing something as stupid and self-destructive as backing a far-right candidate in a blue state just to show how “principled” they are or whatever.

It is happening in my blue state of IL. Here is a clip from a tea party e-mail I received:

PHIL AND I WERE ASKED TO FILL VACANCIES AS [GOP] PRECINCT COMMITTEEMEN IN NEW LENOX

ADDITIONALLY, PHIL AND I TOLD THE CHAIRMAN THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT RENEE KOSEL OR MARK KIRK. HE AGREED.

So there you go. We had a primary in IL. We had a “tea party” candidate. I voted for him, but he lost. He got creamed! Move on and fight the next election. Don’t put Alex G in the Obama seat.

WashJeff on March 4, 2010 at 10:23 PM

Doug Hoffman’s district was blue; Obama won it. Don’t go by the Cook political report on everything.

This was a really good ad, and I don’t like Lincoln. She’s really a feminist, Emily’s List liberal, who does a few conservative things to keep her seat. This cycle though it won’t work. Mary Landrieu is next in four years.

TimTebowSavesAmerica on March 4, 2010 at 10:23 PM

Agreed, good ad. But as Dick Morris just said on Greta, she’s not only running away from her party, she’s running away from the truth.

John the Libertarian on March 4, 2010 at 10:24 PM

It IS a really good ad. Beats the hell out of Demon Sheep.

RachDubya on March 4, 2010 at 10:24 PM

Doug Hoffman’s district was blue; Obama won it.

Hmmm. I thought at least it was purple-y district.

terryannonline on March 4, 2010 at 10:25 PM

Isn’t Blanche Lincoln a pro-occupation Democrat?
Spathi on March 4, 2010 at 10:20 PM

Don’t know. I do know she is a pro-Porkulus and pro-Obamacare Democrat. But the nuts still won’t support her. A nice message to send to the Blue Dogs, no?

joejm65 on March 4, 2010 at 10:25 PM

tru2tx on March 4, 2010 at 10:20 PM

That’s what I said when I called her office last fall.

DerKrieger on March 4, 2010 at 10:25 PM

How come these people are able to raise so much money? And they complain about corporate campaign donations.

promachus on March 4, 2010 at 10:26 PM

Doug Hoffman?

terryannonline on March 4, 2010 at 10:17 PM

That was neither stupid, or self-destructive…considering the other candidate was a tool of the unions…

lovingmyUSA on March 4, 2010 at 10:26 PM

Paging Asa Hutchinson.
Can you leave your cruise long enough to run for senator?

Lanceman on March 4, 2010 at 10:27 PM

Hmmm. I thought at least it was purple-y district.

terryannonline on March 4, 2010 at 10:25 PM

The retiring congressman was a Republican. It broke narrowly for Obama but was a reliable red seat. And Hoffman likely would have won if Scozzafava had endorsed him.

Allahpundit on March 4, 2010 at 10:27 PM

Offhand, I can’t think of an example of the famously pure tea party doing something as stupid and self-destructive as backing a far-right candidate in a blue state just to show how “principled” they are or whatever.

Great point, except that the Democratic Party has been through about 90 election cycles if you count midterms, and the Tea Party has been through zero.

Proud Rino on March 4, 2010 at 10:28 PM

I agree with terryannonline. I thought the same thing when I read that sentence.

The tea party movement did something more destructive than this. They ended up giving a predominately republican seat to a liberal democrat, and it didn’t have to happen.

Lincoln’s seat is going red. Whether they put a more liberal candidate to challenge or not, it is probably lost to the dems.

Vanbasten on March 4, 2010 at 10:29 PM

A commentor exchange from the dailykook about Blanche:

Because she thinks the good people of AK are stupid.

E pluribus unum.

by Plubius on Thu Mar 04, 2010 at 04:55:18 PM PST

The good people of Alaska are (sometimes) that stupid. But not AR.

I am Dawn.

by DawnG on Thu Mar 04, 2010 at 04:59:53 PM PST

txag92 on March 4, 2010 at 10:30 PM

The retiring congressman was a Republican. It broke narrowly for Obama but was a reliable red seat. And Hoffman likely would have won if Scozzafava had endorsed him.

Allahpundit on March 4, 2010 at 10:27 PM

Was the retiring congressman a moderate Republican though?

terryannonline on March 4, 2010 at 10:30 PM

Three: Make a mental note of the “reality-based community’s” strategy here for the next time some concern troll on MSNBC or the New York Times op-ed page starts fretting about the conservative base’s “purity tests.”

What, the Dems’ treatment of Lieberman isn’t enough?

malclave on March 4, 2010 at 10:32 PM

txag92 on March 4, 2010 at 10:30 PM

Am I the only one that doesn’t click on left-wing hogwash?

Lanceman on March 4, 2010 at 10:32 PM

And Hoffman likely would have won if Scozzafava had endorsed him.

Yes. She was a real winner.

Spirit of 1776 on March 4, 2010 at 10:32 PM

Also:

It’s possible. But in this climate? Not so much. Let’s not forget this is a red state. A huge core of the voters think Obama is a socialist marxist commie nazi.

txag92 on March 4, 2010 at 10:33 PM

Am I the only one that doesn’t click on left-wing hogwash?

Lanceman on March 4, 2010 at 10:32 PM

It’s good for a laugh.

txag92 on March 4, 2010 at 10:34 PM

Am I the only one that doesn’t click on left-wing hogwash?

Lanceman on March 4, 2010 at 10:32 PM

No sir

thomasaur on March 4, 2010 at 10:34 PM

The Dems NEEDED someone to the Left of Blanche to run against her in the primary…as a sacricial lamb. She needs to be to the Right of SOMEONE!

This tactic will be played out again and again this season.

Is is a SHAM!

Justrand on March 4, 2010 at 10:34 PM

Well I know that Allah and Ed think that all things magical come from the squishy center – but they’re wrong. The squishy center will NEVER, repeat … NEVER … reform entitlements and stop spending us into bankruptcy. They’ll always compromise with the left and spend.

I don’t hold it against MoveOn and the others for going after Lincoln. Hey look – the kinetic energy in the Democratic Party is with the hard left. It’s THEIR party now. Their tent is TOO BIG and has resulted in impotent majorities in both houses of Congress.

They believe the salvation of America is in Socialism.

We believe (on the right) that our salvation is in conservative principles – which is why we’re doing the same thing to the Republican party in trying to move it to the right.

Can you win elections in the middle? Oh sure – but if you’re into winning – why not just become a NASCAR fan? It’s cheaper.

If you’re into FIXING this nation – then you need to be a conservative. The middle stands for nothing, fixes nothing, and just takes us on a slow train ride into hades. The same ride, the same scenery as the Democrats would take us on. The only difference is the speed of the train – the destination is the same.

HondaV65 on March 4, 2010 at 10:35 PM

Offhand, I can’t think of an example of the famously pure tea party doing something as stupid and self-destructive as backing a far-right candidate in a blue state just to show how “principled” they are or whatever.

The closest I can think of is Chuck Devore.

SouthernGent on March 4, 2010 at 10:35 PM

It’s good for a laugh.

txag92 on March 4, 2010 at 10:34 PM

Sorry. All it does is increase my blood pressure.

Lanceman on March 4, 2010 at 10:35 PM

ADDITIONALLY, PHIL AND I TOLD THE CHAIRMAN THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT RENEE KOSEL OR MARK KIRK. HE AGREED.

So there you go. We had a primary in IL. We had a “tea party” candidate. I voted for him, but he lost. He got creamed! Move on and fight the next election. Don’t put Alex G in the Obama seat.

WashJeff on March 4, 2010 at 10:23 PM

Kosel’s still around?
I think she was in office when we were in high school.
I’d take Kosel over Toi Hutchinson. Toi occupies ‘Debbie’s’ former senate seat.
As for Kirk vs Alexi: I feel like I’m being given a choice of being shot or hanged.Whatever choice I make is going to get me scr*$ed!

annoyinglittletwerp on March 4, 2010 at 10:35 PM

You should have seen (I know you didn’t) the hatchet job Mad Maddow did on Stupak. They’re out to destroy. I think he’s part of the mafia. Or the Manson Family. I wasn’t watching closely.

Marcus on March 4, 2010 at 10:36 PM

Sorry. All it does is increase my blood pressure.

Lanceman on March 4, 2010 at 10:35 PM

That’s why you drink while reading the garbage.

txag92 on March 4, 2010 at 10:37 PM

Good news from twitter…

Dick Morris speaking now at Club for Growth meeting right now, says Healthcare will pass by March 15th.

ninjapirate on March 4, 2010 at 10:37 PM

MORE POPCORN!

GarandFan on March 4, 2010 at 10:38 PM

Democrat’s just love to waste money, don’t they?

Knucklehead on March 4, 2010 at 10:21 PM

Exactly what I was thinking. Wouldn’t that money be better spent say….giving it to charity, or to the homeless, as I’m sure those numbers are climbing at a rapid rate.

capejasmine on March 4, 2010 at 10:39 PM

Saw the ad earlier today, I actually liked it. I mean, if I didn’t know anything about her, it might trick me to vote for her. The ad makes it seem she’s against big government.

El_Terrible on March 4, 2010 at 10:40 PM

That’s why you drink while reading the garbage.

txag92 on March 4, 2010 at 10:37 PM

Can’t do it. I had some idiot tell me today that SP said ‘I can see Russia from my house” Before I knew it, I was yelling like a banshee at this moron while being called a liar. Trying to explain that that was what Tina Fey said to a numbskull who should never be allowed in a voting booth was , well, let’s just say that I’m glad I had no baseball bat in my hands.

Lanceman on March 4, 2010 at 10:42 PM

Dick Morris speaking now at Club for Growth meeting right now, says Healthcare will pass by March 15th.

ninjapirate on March 4, 2010 at 10:37 PM

I believe half of what that blowhard says. He’s been wrong more times than right.

Knucklehead on March 4, 2010 at 10:42 PM

You should have seen (I know you didn’t) the hatchet job Mad Maddow did on Stupak. They’re out to destroy. I think he’s part of the mafia. Or the Manson Family. I wasn’t watching closely.
Marcus on March 4, 2010 at 10:36 PM

Just saw Stupak on Greta. He seems pretty firm in his stance. He also seems frustrated to the point of disbelief.

joejm65 on March 4, 2010 at 10:43 PM

I believe half of what that blowhard says. He’s been wrong more times than right.

Knucklehead on March 4, 2010 at 10:42 PM

Wasn’t he responsible for one William Jefferson Clinton?

Lanceman on March 4, 2010 at 10:44 PM

Knucklehead on March 4, 2010 at 10:42 PM

Dick Morris promised Senator Lazio and President Gore.

Marcus on March 4, 2010 at 10:44 PM

The closest I can think of is Chuck Devore.

SouthernGent on March 4, 2010 at 10:35 PM

Who’s your alternative? Ms. Boxer Lite?

It’s not my district, nor my state, but Fiorina has too much baggage. She may be more electable, but in this cycle, there may be many alternatives that were previously unthinkable.

There are some disturbing things in Carly’s past that might not let her get past Nov. and might suggest that we might better off if she doesn’t.

hillbillyjim on March 4, 2010 at 10:44 PM

Corporatist? Is that someone who discriminates against corporations?

pgrossjr on March 4, 2010 at 10:46 PM

If you’re into FIXING this nation – then you need to be a conservative. The middle stands for nothing, fixes nothing, and just takes us on a slow train ride into hades. The same ride, the same scenery as the Democrats would take us on. The only difference is the speed of the train – the destination is the same.

HondaV65 on March 4, 2010 at 10:35 PM

But the middle has votes. For conservatives to mine those votes, they have to be less right than the left is left, if you get my meaning.

right left

unclesmrgol on March 4, 2010 at 10:47 PM

Who’s your alternative? Ms. Boxer Lite?

It’s not my district, nor my state, but Fiorina has too much baggage. She may be more electable, but in this cycle, there may be many alternatives that were previously unthinkable.

There are some disturbing things in Carly’s past that might not let her get past Nov. and might suggest that we might better off if she doesn’t.

hillbillyjim on March 4, 2010 at 10:44 PM

No. I like Devore. I hope Devore wins the primary, but he is not the candidate of choice for the establishment which is why I offered it up as an example.

SouthernGent on March 4, 2010 at 10:47 PM

Dick Morris promised Senator Lazio and President Gore.

Marcus on March 4, 2010 at 10:44 PM

And President McCain in a stunning upset.

He’ll say anything to get his mug on TV.

Knucklehead on March 4, 2010 at 10:47 PM

As for Kirk vs Alexi: I feel like I’m being given a choice of being shot or hanged.Whatever choice I make is going to get me scr*$ed!

annoyinglittletwerp on March 4, 2010 at 10:35 PM

You know what I think on this one.

Kosel is still here. The battle for IL is in the Gov race and getting the IL house to flip GOP (I am not aware of any predictions that will happen) to get Madigan out of power too. I would really really like to be able to stay in IL for a couple more decades. I hope this ship gets turned around.

WashJeff on March 4, 2010 at 10:47 PM

Wow, that sure got munged in the telling….let’s try again.

If you’re into FIXING this nation – then you need to be a conservative. The middle stands for nothing, fixes nothing, and just takes us on a slow train ride into hades. The same ride, the same scenery as the Democrats would take us on. The only difference is the speed of the train – the destination is the same.

HondaV65 on March 4, 2010 at 10:35 PM

But the middle has votes. For conservatives to mine those votes, they have to be less right than the left is left, if you get my meaning.

right < (center+left), but (right+center) > left

unclesmrgol on March 4, 2010 at 10:48 PM

There is no escaping THE BUS.

hillbillyjim on March 4, 2010 at 10:15 PM

Someone needs to make a horror/thriller movie about that bus. It’s a terror unto itself.

Yakko77 on March 4, 2010 at 10:48 PM

The retiring congressman was a Republican. It broke narrowly for Obama but was a reliable red seat. And Hoffman likely would have won if Scozzafava had endorsed him.

Allahpundit on March 4, 2010 at 10:27 PM

Not to mention the lightning fast race in the few weeks after Hoffman actually got noticed. Had he had more time to spend the money dumped on him from around the country, he could easily have picked up the 2% he lost by. That was a very unique race.

The comparison here being to the likes of longshot like Halter in AR, Hoffman is no Halter, and Lincoln is not the mirror image of Scozzafava.

Pablo on March 4, 2010 at 10:49 PM

Dick Morris speaking now at Club for Growth meeting right now, says Healthcare will pass by March 15th.

ninjapirate on March 4, 2010 at 10:37 PM
I believe half of what that blowhard says. He’s been wrong more times than right.

Knucklehead on March 4, 2010 at 10:42 PM

So in other words it passes but not by the 15th.

thomasaur on March 4, 2010 at 10:49 PM

I hope this ship gets turned around.

WashJeff on March 4, 2010 at 10:47 PM

BWAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA, What? Sorry, I can’t stop laughing!

Lanceman on March 4, 2010 at 10:51 PM

No. I like Devore. I hope Devore wins the primary, but he is not the candidate of choice for the establishment which is why I offered it up as an example.

SouthernGent on March 4, 2010 at 10:47 PM

I misread you. Sorry. I thought you were saying that backing DeVore was “stupid and self-destructive…” per the quote in your post. My mistake. I am far from CA politics, but from here in Hillbillyville, VA, he looks pretty good.

hillbillyjim on March 4, 2010 at 10:53 PM

There is no escaping THE BUS.

hillbillyjim on March 4, 2010 at 10:15 PM

Someone needs to make a horror/thriller movie about that bus. It’s a terror unto itself.

Yakko77 on March 4, 2010 at 10:48 PM

Yes. It seems that THE BUS has become an entity of its own — chewing up and spitting out Ojesus supporters with nary a thought to the blood and Gore to be cleaned up later…

hillbillyjim on March 4, 2010 at 10:58 PM

What? Sorry, I can’t stop laughing!

Lanceman on March 4, 2010 at 10:51 PM

Thank you for your support!

WashJeff on March 4, 2010 at 11:00 PM

That,s a great ad, It no demon-sheep but I give it a 4 out of 5.

Jacob Hammond on March 4, 2010 at 11:00 PM

And Hoffman likely would have won if Scozzafava had endorsed him.

Yes. She was a real winner.

Spirit of 1776 on March 4, 2010 at 10:32 PM

If Hoffman had the 5% she pulled in the race, he’d be Congressman Hoffman right now. November is coming faster everyday.

Pablo on March 4, 2010 at 11:02 PM

Not to mention the lightning fast race in the few weeks after Hoffman actually got noticed. Had he had more time to spend the money dumped on him from around the country, he could easily have picked up the 2% he lost by. That was a very unique race.

The comparison here being to the likes of longshot like Halter in AR, Hoffman is no Halter, and Lincoln is not the mirror image of Scozzafava.

Pablo on March 4, 2010 at 10:49 PM

Hoffman got money from conservatives around the nation. But people around the nation don’t vote in the district. It was a moderate district. My congressional district has been blue for decades but it is a moderately blue district. A Nancy Pelosi type Democrat would probably never make it my district.

NY-23 was moderately Republican. I think national Republicans should have stayed out of that race and let the locals decide for themselves.

terryannonline on March 4, 2010 at 11:04 PM

So in other words it passes but not by the 15th.

thomasaur on March 4, 2010 at 10:49 PM

Beware the Ides of March.

alexwest on March 4, 2010 at 11:05 PM

Offhand, I can’t think of an example of the famously pure tea party doing something as stupid and self-destructive as backing a far-right candidate in a blue state just to show how “principled” they are or whatever.

Doug Hoffman?

terryannonline on March 4, 2010 at 10:17 PM

Terry couple of things:
1>That’s not a blue district as AP pointed out.
2>Scozza…. is too far to the left for the mood of the even the grassroots republicans.
3>Doug Hoffman is not far right.

AP,
Is it time to start DOOM watch for Blanche Lincoln?

antisocial on March 4, 2010 at 11:11 PM

The nutroots are stupid. Lincoln is too far Left for AR, my home state, so Halter won’t stand a chance. John Boozman, my Congressman, will wipe the floor with either of them. The unions and moveon.org types are wasting their money here.DerKrieger on March 4, 2010 at 10:20 PM

He’s my Congressman as well, and I have no doubt he’ll win handily. Let Blanche and Halter duke it out for the handful of liberal votes in this state. Boozman will crush either one of them. I’ll look forward to voting for him, and for whoever his replacement might be. I’m leaning toward Cecile Bledsoe at the moment.

NoLeftTurn on March 4, 2010 at 11:12 PM

1>That’s not a blue district as AP pointed out.

The district voted for Obama. Yes the retiring Congressman was a Republican but he was moderate. So moderate, in fact, Obama appointed to some position.

Scozza…. is too far to the left for the mood of the even the grassroots republicans.

If Scuzzy was too left then why did the voters of that district elect someone to the left her?

Doug Hoffman is not far right.

Well he didn’t win. That is all I know.

terryannonline on March 4, 2010 at 11:21 PM

NY-23 was moderately Republican. I think national Republicans should have stayed out of that race and let the locals decide for themselves.

terryannonline on March 4, 2010 at 11:04 PM

The Republicans were backing the locally picked candidate, Scozzafava. Conservatives/Tea Partyers backed Hoffman, but too late to pull it out. Of course, the voters ultimately decide, but only after a campaign. That race was a short, weird one. You can argue Hoffman’s wisdom, but he damned near pulled it out, even with Republican Dede’s knife in his back. None of that translates to primarying Lincoln with a moonbat that would be crushed like a bug in the general.

Pablo on March 4, 2010 at 11:22 PM

Not to mention the lightning fast race in the few weeks after Hoffman actually got noticed. Had he had more time to spend the money dumped on him from around the country, he could easily have picked up the 2% he lost by. That was a very unique race.
The comparison here being to the likes of longshot like Halter in AR, Hoffman is no Halter, and Lincoln is not the mirror image of Scozzafava.
Pablo on March 4, 2010 at 10:49 PM
Hoffman got money from conservatives around the nation. But people around the nation don’t vote in the district. It was a moderate district. My congressional district has been blue for decades but it is a moderately blue district. A Nancy Pelosi type Democrat would probably never make it my district.

NY-23 was moderately Republican. I think national Republicans should have stayed out of that race and let the locals decide for themselves.

terryannonline on March 4, 2010 at 11:04 PM

You think Scozzafava would have won this race? I doubt it. Secondly you think without nation getting behind him Doug Hoffman would have done as well as he did? I personally think we would have lost in both situations. There is a churning on within the republican party. Conservative base feels very strongly that majority of their representatives don’t represent them anymore. If you ask me I am embarrassed by squishy Republicans. I wish we had principled people on our side. I hope in this cycle we will be able to get more fiscal conservatives elected.

antisocial on March 4, 2010 at 11:23 PM

The nutroots are stupid. Lincoln is too far Left for AR, my home state, so Halter won’t stand a chance. John Boozman, my Congressman, will wipe the floor with either of them. The unions and moveon.org types are wasting their money here.
DerKrieger on March 4, 2010 at 10:20 PM

YES!

Hard Right on March 4, 2010 at 11:23 PM

You think Scozzafava would have won this race? I doubt it.

I have no idea if Scozzafava would have won. We will never know. But she was leading in the polls before Hoffman and national GOP figures stepped in.

terryannonline on March 4, 2010 at 11:26 PM

The Dems NEEDED someone to the Left of Blanche to run against her in the primary…as a sacricial lamb. She needs to be to the Right of SOMEONE!

This tactic will be played out again and again this season.

Is is a SHAM!

Justrand on March 4, 2010 at 10:34 PM

If that’s the plan, it’s not a very strategic one. If she wins her primary challenge because she’s further right than Halter, she still has to face Boozman in the general election so she’s right back where she started from.

I actually think the plan is even more stupid than that. I think these bozos at the DNC think they’ll run Halter, who is a good-looking, charismatic guy with high approval ratings in the state, and they’ll keep his message tempered during the campaigning. Notice the vague platitudes he spoke in during his announcement that he would run. He is a Clinton protege, which would probably play in his favor here, at least among undecideds or middle-of-the-roaders, and he will have the Clinton machine to back him. I think Obama would love to exchange fence-sitting Blanche for a more reliable liberal vote which he would probably get in Halter. Halter is fine as the LG here b/c the Democrats on the state level tend to behave a little more conservatively. But if you unleashed him in Washington, he would revert to type.

What I think the wingnuts on the left who are cheering this decision fail to recognize is that the Democrat voters here are not like the Democrat voters in the the Northeast or the West Coast. A far-left Senator is not going to fly here. Arkansans are a pretty smart bunch, contrary to what I’m sure the elitists in DC believe, so I’m pretty hopeful they’ll see through any attempt to get the electorate to vote for Halter the Trojan horse. We’ll see, I guess.

NoLeftTurn on March 4, 2010 at 11:26 PM

As someone who grew up in “The Natural State”, I am amused by what the nutroots think they are accomplishing. It is clear they would have trouble finding Arkansas with a map let alone know anything about the politics in the state. The Kos kidz and Hamster act like they are dealing with Massa…er, make that New Jers…, er, I mean New York, in terms of the state’s politics. Lincoln is about as far left as one can be down home. And for these nuts to think they can find a Kennedy-esque liberal that can win down there…well, more power to them. As noted, it will just make our job easier.

The Opinionator on March 4, 2010 at 11:28 PM

If Scuzzy was too left then why did the voters of that district elect someone to the left her?

Did they? If so, I’d attribute it to name recognition. No one knew who Hoffman was until the middle of October which doesn’t bode well for a November 3 election.

Pablo on March 4, 2010 at 11:28 PM

Here’s the first HA post on NY-23. 10/17/09

Pablo on March 4, 2010 at 11:30 PM

If Scuzzy was too left then why did the voters of that district elect someone to the left her?

terryannonline on March 4, 2010 at 11:21 PM

Because there were some loyal Dede liberal Republicans that either sat out or followed the orders of their hero and voted D… That’s right, liberal Republicans lost that election.

MeatHeadinCA on March 4, 2010 at 11:32 PM

“John Boozman, my Congressman, will wipe the floor with either of them. The unions and moveon.org types are wasting their money here.”

Shhhhhhhh……..

N. O'Brain on March 4, 2010 at 11:32 PM

Because there were some loyal Dede liberal Republicans that either sat out or followed the orders of their hero and voted D… That’s right, liberal Republicans lost that election.

MeatHeadinCA on March 4, 2010 at 11:32 PM

Proving my point the district: The district is not conservative…it’s moderately liberal one.

terryannonline on March 4, 2010 at 11:37 PM

Well he didn’t win. That is all I know.

terryannonline on March 4, 2010 at 11:21 PM

You’re right. Thats all you know.

portlandon on March 4, 2010 at 11:39 PM

Hoffman came in there and in 2 weeks time nearly tied it up. The RNC wasted $1 million on her. If that money had been spent on Hoffman, I am convinced he would have pulled it off.

Round #2 this November. We’ll have our answer then.. Does Hoffman win the rematch? I thinks he will.

El_Terrible on March 4, 2010 at 11:43 PM

terryannonline on March 4, 2010 at 11:21 PM

You got it wrong:

District voted Obama does not mean anything. That was an exception not a norm.

Owens was not left of Scuzzy. It was other way round. She couldn’t even sustain the fight. Leave alone a chance to win. She could have never won. Anyways if the choice was ever between her and Owens, I guess it wouldn’t have mattered.

Well he didn’t win. That is all I know.

You thought others did not know? Ha.

antisocial on March 4, 2010 at 11:43 PM

Scozza…. is too far to the left for the mood of the even the grassroots republicans.

If Scuzzy was too left then why did the voters of that district elect someone to the left her?

Doug Hoffman is not far right.

Well he didn’t win. That is all I know.

terryannonline on March 4, 2010 at 11:21 PM

He said she was too far to the left for grassroots Republicans, not for the general electorate. Recall that she wasn’t elected in a primary, she was selected by the geniuses running the local GOP. But in any case, she was hardly to the right of Bill Owens in any significant way.

As for the fact he didn’t win, it was easily within the margin of error, which means you really can’t draw any serious conclusions from that fact.

RINO in Name Only on March 4, 2010 at 11:44 PM

Proving my point the district: The district is not conservative…it’s moderately liberal one.

terryannonline on March 4, 2010 at 11:37 PM

No, that doesn’t prove your point. If Hoffman had lost by 10% (it was actually more like 3%), then your point would have been proven. The district is moderate (similar to many upstate NY districts) not moderately liberal. Further, I’ve heard some people say that Owens was no more liberal than Scozzafava. So if you believe that Owens was elected because he was in a liberal district, then that would have made Scozzafava one very liberal Republican. Either way, she was too liberal. Would you have voted for her?

MeatHeadinCA on March 4, 2010 at 11:44 PM

Hoffman came in there and in 2 weeks time nearly tied it up. The RNC wasted $1 million on her. If that money had been spent on Hoffman, I am convinced he would have pulled it off.

Round #2 this November. We’ll have our answer then.. Does Hoffman win the rematch? I thinks he will.

El_Terrible on March 4, 2010 at 11:43 PM

I hope he wins. I think he has a better chance if national GOP figures stay out of it though.

terryannonline on March 4, 2010 at 11:45 PM

Effective ad. About the only chance Blanche Lincoln really has is in throwing Obama and her own Democratic Party under the bus to try distance herself from the Doctor Of Doom and his Dark Side Dominion.

KendraWilder on March 4, 2010 at 11:46 PM

Great Ad. The candidates around after the primaries will be hounding whoever did that for their own campaigns.

This election in particular, you simply cannot be a liberal for five years and pretend you are conservative in the lead up to the next election.

highhopes on March 4, 2010 at 11:47 PM

Further, I’ve heard some people say that Owens was no more liberal than Scozzafava.

Owens voted for PelosiCare….I’m not sure if Scozzafava would have.

terryannonline on March 4, 2010 at 11:47 PM

Hoffman came in there and in 2 weeks time nearly tied it up. The RNC wasted $1 million on her. If that money had been spent on Hoffman, I am convinced he would have pulled it off.

Round #2 this November. We’ll have our answer then.. Does Hoffman win the rematch? I thinks he will.

El_Terrible on March 4, 2010 at 11:43 PM

Hoffman didn’t strike me as very charismatic. I wonder – did we get close to winning because of him, or in spite of him? Would a more seasoned conservative be better this time around?

RINO in Name Only on March 4, 2010 at 11:49 PM

Owens voted for PelosiCare….I’m not sure if Scozzafava would have.

terryannonline on March 4, 2010 at 11:47 PM

1) You’re not sure.

2) I’m pretty sure she would have… since we’re speculating and all.

MeatHeadinCA on March 4, 2010 at 11:49 PM

Hoffman came in there and in 2 weeks time nearly tied it up. The RNC wasted $1 million on her. If that money had been spent on Hoffman, I am convinced he would have pulled it off.

El_Terrible on March 4, 2010 at 11:43 PM

Leadership skillz and all

MeatHeadinCA on March 4, 2010 at 11:50 PM

“I can’t think of an example of the famously pure tea party doing something as stupid and self-destructive as backing a far-right candidate in a blue state just to show how “principled” they are”

Hoffman .. New York?

crosspatch on March 4, 2010 at 11:51 PM

Owens voted for PelosiCare….I’m not sure if Scozzafava would have.

terryannonline on March 4, 2010 at 11:47 PM

1) You’re not sure.

2) I’m pretty sure she would have… since we’re speculating and all.

MeatHeadinCA on March 4, 2010 at 11:49 PM

She would have voted for Obamacare. Her husband is a union guy. She has strong ties to unions. Scozzafava is pro-abort, embraced same-sex marriage and a number of economic positions that put her politically to the left of Owens.

Demoncrat Owens is to the right of the genius candidate that local GOP establishment gave us.

antisocial on March 4, 2010 at 11:55 PM

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