To Keep and Bear Arms

posted at 12:55 pm on March 3, 2010 by Doctor Zero

Twenty-five years ago, a little after sunrise on a Monday morning, the front door of my house was kicked in by a man who had blown his mind with crack cocaine. He marched my family upstairs at gunpoint. When I reached the top of the stairs and turned around, he put the gun in my forehead and pulled the trigger.

I’ve always heard it was good to begin a composition with an arresting opening paragraph. That’s the catchiest one I can offer from an otherwise modest biography. I hope the rest of this essay lives up to the opening. I’ll do my best.

I don’t mind admitting this incident gave me a lifelong aversion to guns. I don’t have any objection to other law-abiding citizens bearing arms – in fact, I’m strongly in favor of it. It’s just not a right I have chosen to exercise, although I’m working on getting over it. I’m fascinated by the beauty and science of firearms. I rarely pass a gun magazine on the stands without flipping it open, and I love attending gun shows. My first close encounter with a gun was rather… intense, so I’m understandably nervous around them. I recently discovered I’m a remarkably good shot with a target rifle, after some friends invited me to shoot with them. I’ve decided twenty-five years is long enough to be uncomfortable around the reality of something I’ve always supported in theory.

The Second Amendment is once again in the news, as the Supreme Court considers a case that would invoke the Fourteenth Amendment to apply it to the states, striking down restrictive state and local gun-control laws… oh, wait. You’re probably wondering why I’m still here, having been shot in the head and all. Well, I got lucky. I was able to knock the gun out of the way just in time, and the bullet wound up in the wall, instead of my brain. I had managed to make a hasty call to the police as the door was being kicked in, and they arrived to find the perp and I wrestling for control of the weapon at the bottom of the stairs. No one died in my house that day.

I wish the Supreme Court would do more than rule the Second Amendment applies to the states. It’s long past time the last, ridiculous cobwebs of ambiguity were cleared away from the right to keep and bear arms. Gun control has been simmering on low heat for a while, after boiling over in the Nineties. We should clear it off the Constitutional stove altogether. We have better things to do than slip into another bitter, tedious argument about whether the government can interfere with our right, and duty, to defend ourselves.

The notion that citizens have no good reason to be armed, because the State can protect them from violent crime, is one of the most dangerous lies Big Government has fed its subjects. The government reduces crime through the police and court systems, but no matter how tirelessly the police work, there is very little chance they can actively defend you from assault. There aren’t enough of them, and there never could be. The very areas of privacy that allow us to relax with our friends and families will always be soft targets for criminals… unless we fortify them ourselves. The police arrived at my house several minutes too late to play a role in my attempted execution. They made excellent time – there happened to be a unit in the area. If things had gone a little different, they might have arrived just in time to avenge me.

Citizen access to firearms has reduced crime rates time and again, but this is more than a matter of practicality. It’s a question of principle. The people of an orderly nation surrender the business of vengeance to the government, replacing it with the rule of law. They cannot be expected to surrender the right of defense. The right to protect yourself, and your family, from injury and death is an essential part of your dignity as a free man or woman. Without the First Amendment, you are a slave. Without the Second, you are a child.

The Western nations which have abandoned this essential understanding of an individual’s right to self-defense have become rotting orphanages filled with dependent children. They’re not dealing very well with the invasion of a determined ideology that has complete confidence in its own righteousness, and few reservations about using violence to assert itself. Losing the dignity of self-defense is part of the degeneration from master of the State to its client. As this dignity fades, the people and their government speak less of responsibilities, and more of entitlements.

The Second Amendment is a concrete expression of the American birthright of independence. With the right of self-defense bargained away, our rights to speak and vote give us modest influence in a collective. The Founders wanted more, and better, for us.

Sometimes liberals sneer at the idea we might keep arms against government tyranny, because a bunch of pistol-packing Tea Party types have no chance of repeating the success of the Revolution against a modern military force. This completely misses the point. A disarmed populace has little choice but to obey orders. If the population is armed, a tyrant’s forces have to do more than just brandish their weapons… they’d have to start pulling triggers. Victory for a righteous populace would come in the military’s refusal to pull those triggers. Tyranny should never be easy. Of course, it should never come to that again, in the United States. As long as the population is armed, this is an understanding, and a duty… not an assumption.

The right to keep and bear arms is a crucial intersection of liberty and obligation. A gun owner is entrusted with the solemn duty to tend his weapons carefully and securely. In accepting this duty, we remove the destiny of our loved ones from the hands of madmen, and it is no longer measured by the distance of a friendly police car from our homes. It would be a mark of our maturity as a nation if we stopped telling ourselves that freedom can exist in the absence of responsibility… or danger. The shards of those illusions carry sharp edges, when they shatter.

The New York Times article about the case before the Supreme Court ends this way:

The Supreme Court’s conservative majority has made clear that it is very concerned about the right to bear arms. There is another right, however, that should not get lost: the right of people, through their elected representatives, to adopt carefully drawn laws that protect them against other people’s guns.

Carefully drawn laws will not protect you from other people’s guns.  Believe me.  None of the people carefully drawing those laws will rely upon them for their protection.

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When an armed gunman is in your home, no law is going to protect you. But a gun just might.

hawksruleva on March 3, 2010 at 3:11 PM

It’s liberal think.
Don L on March 3, 2010 at 3:01 PM

They Don’t, that’s the Problem.

Chip on March 3, 2010 at 3:11 PM

False. Zero’s scenario leaves a violent offender alive, who not only knows where Zero lives, but now has a bit of a grudge against him.

If somebody breaks into your house and means you or your loved ones harm, SHOOT THEM DEAD, or you may be facing them again (much more prepared this time) when they get a light sentence, or none at all, and come back with their buddies to settle the score. Leave no violent criminal in your own home alive.

Beo on March 3, 2010 at 2:00 PM

Wisdom.

pseudonominus on March 3, 2010 at 3:13 PM

sesquipedalian on March 3, 2010 at 1:44 PM

I’ll repost this for you since you are, well…special.

daesleeper on March 3, 2010 at 3:13 PM

I am father. I kill. You take one step toward this family and you will cease to exist.
- Jim Rohn

My favorite t-shirt of all time was a picture of a torry (red coat, wig, and big mouth) facing a Continental (tri-corner, no uniform) holding an assault rifle. Under the image, the torry was saying “What does a farmer need with an assault rifle?”

Blacksmith8 on March 3, 2010 at 3:15 PM

conflating “carefully drawn” gun laws that regulate what kinds of firearms can be purchased by private citizens, or require proof that you’re capable of handling a gun responsibly, with denying the right of self-defense is a classic straw man argument. otherwise, an admirable piece of sophistry as always.

sesquipedalian on March 3, 2010 at 1:44 PM

The fact that you believe these laws are carefully drawn, much less designed to do anything other than make it harder for the law abiding to have access to guns, just shows what a fool you are.

MarkTheGreat on March 3, 2010 at 3:18 PM

If somebody breaks into your house and means you or your loved ones harm, SHOOT THEM DEAD, or you may be facing them again (much more prepared this time) when they get a light sentence, or none at all, and come back with their buddies to settle the score. Leave no violent criminal in your own home alive.

Beo on March 3, 2010 at 2:00 PM

There will be no time for an interview. Use whatever means necessary for you and your loved ones survival. As mother and father are the last line of defense for their children, I pray you are up to the task.

Blacksmith8 on March 3, 2010 at 3:21 PM

Thank God you, and your family, survived that terrible attack by a drug-crazed idiot, Doc.

Constitutional rights aside, one thing that anti-gun activists won’t tell people is that guns can be banned nationwide, and it won’t make a bit of difference in violent crimes committed with guns.

The truth is that there is a healthy black market for all illegal and even legal products and drugs. One has only to look to England for excellent examples of an unarmed citizenry that’s constantly victimized by armed criminals because there’s nothing to act as a deterrent that they can legally utilize.

Criminals will always get guns on the black market, no matter how many laws are set in place to control firearms. The reality is that there just aren’t enough law enforcement people to do the inspections and whatever else might be necessary to ferret out black market trade items like illegal firearms that pass through their ports or enter via rail or autos/trucks.

Gun control laws are not about controlling gun ownership, nor are they about preventing criminals from acquiring firearms. Gun control laws are totally about controlling the law abiding citizens, and that’s the bottom line. The more Liberals can dictate what is and is not legal in our private lives, the less choices we have. The more they can control, the more avenues are opened up for additional control legislation, a la England and other socialist countries. Law abiding citizens are honorable and principled, and most likely to obey laws. The Libs know that, and that’s why laws are so important to them, even redundant legislation.

And that’s why the health care reform legislation is such an obsession for the Dems. It’s all about long term control and power over American citizens and their taxable and spendable monies.

KendraWilder on March 3, 2010 at 3:21 PM

Doc Zero…you suck. You suck because I wish *I* had written this.

Good job.

JohnTant on March 3, 2010 at 3:22 PM

And Doc, get yourself either a pump shotgun, or a good .45 ACP pistol (I’m a 1911-style fan, myself). Either one would never need to be fired, just seeing it leveled at them would have the miscreants soiling themselves and complying with orders. Don’t mess with those little 9mm toys. Pump gun is a good choice owing to the distinctive noise it makes when you cycle a round into the chamber. You would likely never have to see the animal, they’d be gone very quickly.

iurockhead on March 3, 2010 at 1:42 PM

Doc, if you decide to make a purchase (and of course, become proficient with it, as I have no doubt you will), there are flashlight/laser combinations widely available to attach to handguns or shotguns. Very bright light, which will, in the dark, temporarily blind the bad guy, and the laser in the eyes, well….they’ve all seen movies about what that means.

bikermailman on March 3, 2010 at 3:23 PM

What was the county in the State of Georgia that passed a law that you must have a gun in your house and backed it up by the sheriff asking to see it and gave a notice to get one if there wasn’t one. Shooting classes were available without cost. Crime took a nose dive after that was passed.

mixplix on March 3, 2010 at 2:15 PM

Kennesaw. The law did not have the sheriff checking to see if you owned a gun, the law also included a conscientious objector provision. If you didn’t want to buy a gun, you dind’t have to. Such a provision would be as unconstitutional as ObamaCare requiring everyone to buy health insurance.

MarkTheGreat on March 3, 2010 at 3:24 PM

The 2nd Amendment:

George Washington didn’t use his freedom of speech to defeat the British, he shot them.

uknowmorethanme on March 3, 2010 at 3:28 PM

Such a provision would be as unconstitutional as ObamaCare requiring everyone to buy health insurance.

MarkTheGreat on March 3, 2010 at 3:24 PM

Constitution? The dems wipe their asses with copies of the constitution. The constitution says and means what they say it means. Not what you read with your own eyes!

jwp1964 on March 3, 2010 at 3:30 PM

There is another right, however, that should not get lost: the right of people, through their elected representatives, to adopt carefully drawn laws that protect them against other people’s guns.

What the heck does this even mean? The right to protection from other people’s guns?

There is no such thing as a right to protection. How would it even be provided?

I don’t have a right to shoot you, unless you are in some way threatening me or someone else. That’s as far as it goes in terms of “protection”.

MarkTheGreat on March 3, 2010 at 3:30 PM

Doc Zero, “Losing the dignity of self-defense is part of the degeneration from master of the State to its client. As this dignity fades, the people and their government speak less of responsibilities, and more of entitlements.”

Yes, and the government speaks of its own sense of entitlement to abuse the citizen by ignoring and dissolving the supremacy of the Constitution. Our elected officials fail their responsibility to function according to balanced and limited powers.

Congress considers itself above the law. So does the President and his administration. They would enable the IRS or some other federal bureau to throw taxed citizens in jail for not buying whatever mandated program.

Congress felt entitled to actually write such a bill to fund Statist Care that makes the DNA of every American government property, as with our bodies and minds affected by state mandates. The costs are to be paid by the persecuted by confiscating private property.

Congress and the President already passed legislation augmenting the authority of the POTUS to spend tax funds without Congressional permission.

The Supreme Court fails to recognize the Constitution as the supreme law of the land. Socialist activists presume that their personal biases supersede the Constitution’s relevance.

Supreme Court justices fail to comment on legislation passed and signed into law that grossly ignores and abuses the Constitution.

Meanwhile, it takes long deliberation to determine whether or not any branch of government anywhere in the USA is to uphold the traditionally understood and respectfully honored Constitutional Right for the rule of law abiding American citizens to keep and bear arms.

As it is, PC corrupt attorney generals would prosecute innocent citizens for exercising self defense. The military prosecutes the enlisted when they fail to obey all of the Karzai 12 Rules of Engagement (according to enemy source witnesses) when troops fire in self defense. Self defense itself is no longer “enough” reason against abusive prosecutors who eschew the respect for the Constitution as the supreme law of the land.

The Judicial branch is rife with corruption. Obama’s Attorney General Holder ordered a halt to justice in order to prevent a case from being heard by the Supreme Court, in order to endorse ACORN crimes and the New Black Panthers’ crimes as acceptable and what Americans must tolerate. Holder thinks he is entitled to corrupt his office and our nation because so far, no one is stopping him.

Clinton was not the first person and is not the last to excuse his own felonies as “nothing” of consequence. However, he was the first POTUS to answer why he engaged in impeachable offenses with the obtuse rationale, “Because I could.”

The Speaker of the House presumed the role of the POTUS (Pelosi vs. Bush) involving international diplomatic affairs and negotiations. Asked why, “Because I could.”

Why would any member of the Supreme Court decide to rescind our Constitutional Rights? “Because I could.”

Even criminals feel “entitled” to small scale crime, and to organize crime within our government. The old line was, so long as you don’t get caught. The new line is, so what if you’re caught? It doesn’t matter.

Unless it does.

maverick muse on March 3, 2010 at 3:30 PM

IF the supreme court decides to allow state governments to ban all guns, then this is exactly what the California legislature will do.

Of course, once the guns are collected by the state, California will degrade into the gangland that thrives just across the border.

It will be at this point that the liberals in the California legislature will declare martial law in California in order to send in the military. Of course, once martial law is established under such a circumstance, it will never be revoked. Then the liberals will have the police state controls to impose the social justice they so desperatly crave!

Extreme? Not if you look at the history of Rome!

Freddy on March 3, 2010 at 3:31 PM

Who/what is stopping the revisionism and corruption?

Each branch of government has tolerated its own internal corruption, excused because another branch proved corrupt. “Everybody’s doing it.”

That same expressive pattern of progressive socialism permeates each of the major parties. They both have augmented federal bureaucratic powers beyond any “balance” through unconstitutional legislation that designates funds for newly proposed unconstitutional bureaucracies, czars and mandated programs.

Neoconservatives are too big to fail revisionists permeating the Republican big tent preaching big government while stroking/strangling the tea party. Because they endorse traditional religious values, they’ve pulled the wool over the flock’s eyes.

As if CONSERVATIVES don’t see what’s happening.

If it does not support the Constitution, it is not constitutional. Conservatism supports the Constitution.

maverick muse on March 3, 2010 at 3:33 PM

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.
- Clint Smith

Blacksmith8 on March 3, 2010 at 3:34 PM

wonderful post, Doc… ;)

liquidflorian on March 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM

wondering:
How many hotairheads have been assaulted with a knife or gun?

The Race Card on March 3, 2010 at 1:50 PM

When I was twelve I was attacked by a man with a butcher knife. It was a defining moment in so many ways.

flyfisher on March 3, 2010 at 3:43 PM

And it’s not surprising then [that] they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

–Barack Obama

Just a reminder.

baldilocks on March 3, 2010 at 3:47 PM

I’ve always thought that those home alarm system commercials, where the door gets kicked in, and the alarm scares away the perp, should be parodied in a commercial by the NRA (or anyone else with the wherewithal to put together an ad).

iurockhead on March 3, 2010 at 1:42 PM

I think this is what you have in mind. (hot babe alert)

UltimateBob on March 3, 2010 at 3:48 PM

conflating “carefully drawn” gun laws that regulate what kinds of firearms can be purchased by private citizens, or require proof that you’re capable of handling a gun responsibly, with denying the right of self-defense is a classic straw man argument. otherwise, an admirable piece of sophistry as always.

sesquipedalian on March 3, 2010 at 1:44 PM

Absolute Bullsh!t. By this rationale, we should require citizens to obtain permits before speaking in public, or writing letters to the editor, in order to “moderate” the nation’s political discussions. Before you go spouting your leftist lap-dog hypocrisy, try putting onto the 1st amendment those restrictions you would place upon the 2nd and see how it fits.

The right to keep and bear arms is NOT a right given to me, nor permitted to me, by any government. It is a natural right that every citizen possesses, and it is high time that we struck down ALL laws which infringe upon this right in any manner.

AW1 Tim on March 3, 2010 at 3:49 PM

wondering:
How many hotairheads have been assaulted with a knife or gun?

The Race Card on March 3, 2010 at 1:50 PM

Had 2-3 guys break in my home. I heard them. Went to the top of my stairs. Loudly chambered a round, turned on the laser and headed down the stairs. One guy jumped through the closed glass window getting out of there and the other guy kicked out the nearest door getting out. i am am a fan of semi-autos for home/self protection.

jwp1964 on March 3, 2010 at 3:49 PM

The postings today reflect what most conservatives believe. I own 2 shotguns, 2 handguns, and a 7mm deer rifle. But perhaps the NRA stickers on my car and front door work as a deterrent also.

My wife and I live in the woods with the nearest neighbor over a 1/4 mile away. I am 80, but I can still put 5 rounds from my Glock 17 into a paper plate at 30 feet.

Lew_Lew on March 3, 2010 at 3:52 PM

jwp1964 on March 3, 2010 at 3:49 PM

You did exactly the right thing. I keep a Glock 21SF (.45 ACP) with a laser sight as my “bedside” gun.

I always thought the red laser dot coming around the corner should send a strong enough message to any intruder who breaks into my house at night that he broke into the wrong house. If that doesn’t work, the sound of a round being chambered should remove any doubt that I’m serious about it.

UltimateBob on March 3, 2010 at 3:55 PM

Excellent piece, Doctor Zero. Please note that familiarity breeds content, not contempt. Familiarize yourself with various firearms, become adept in their use and feel the pure joy of punching the X in a target several yards downrange. Find the firearm that best suits you, buy it, learn every aspect of it and practice with it until it becomes as natural as signing your name. You’ve already proven which side of “fight or flight” you are on. You have nothing to prove in that arena.
Remaining unarmed puts the burden of protecting your home on your neighbors. Take it upon yourself.

SKYFOX on March 3, 2010 at 3:57 PM

I am 80, but I can still put 5 rounds from my Glock 17 into a paper plate at 30 feet.

Lew_Lew on March 3, 2010 at 3:52 PM

Good enough!

My dad is about your age, and wants to get a .22LR handgun for home defense. He’s an army veteran, and should know that he will probably need something more powerful to stop an intruder.

I’m trying to convince him to at least get a 9 mm. I’m planning to take him to the shooting range with me to show him that he can handle a 9 mm, even at his age.

UltimateBob on March 3, 2010 at 3:58 PM

UltimateBob on March 3, 2010 at 3:58 PM

I used to think my old 9 shot .22LR H&R Sportsman was probably enough, but after trying my close friend’s .40 Sig Sauer, I decided on the Glock.

BTW, I had a pistol pointed at my head when I was about 21. Not a good feeling! His wife wrestled with him and I sped away burning rubber. I had a S&W .38 in the glove compartment, but it’s useless unloaded.

Lew_Lew on March 3, 2010 at 4:12 PM

There is another right, however, that should not get lost: the right of people, through their elected representatives, to adopt carefully drawn laws that protect them against other people’s guns.

The Second Amendment gives me the right to protect myself from other people’s guns. What the heck is the idiotic NYT talking about?

Oopsdaisy on March 3, 2010 at 4:23 PM

unclesmrgol on March 3, 2010 at 1:44 PM

What’s your point?
Tens of thousands of people are killed every year in auto accidents.
You wanna ban cars too?
Or maybe we could just institute a national 5 MPH speed limit.
I mean, who needs a vehicle that can do 100 MPH?
Or even 50 MPH.
Your argument needs work.

soundingboard on March 3, 2010 at 4:24 PM

You can NOT make bail from the MORGUE !!!!!!

Col.John Wm. Reed on March 3, 2010 at 4:38 PM

I really like the comments here. It seems most are pro 2A and (most importantly) self-reliant.

matthew26 on March 3, 2010 at 4:39 PM

Everybody in my neighborhood shoots, sometimes it sounds like a war zone on a Sunday afternoon. Everything from 22 to black powder. We have a very low crime rate in my neighborhood. Most of the lot sizes are 5 or 10 acres. I have several guns within arms reach at my workstation in my home office. I like to dry fire my target guns, but the bedside Colt trooper has Remington Golden Sabres loaded.

JimK on March 3, 2010 at 4:47 PM

You can NOT make bail from the MORGUE !!!!!!

Col.John Wm. Reed on March 3, 2010 at 4:38 PM

IOW, better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6.

baldilocks on March 3, 2010 at 5:02 PM

Everybody in my neighborhood shoots, sometimes it sounds like a war zone on a Sunday afternoon.

JimK on March 3, 2010 at 4:47 PM

How have you survived?
/

Weird./ I have been in gun departments at stores and in shooting ranges and somehow with all them guns I have yet been shot.

CWforFreedom on March 3, 2010 at 6:00 PM

the right of people, through their elected representatives, to adopt carefully drawn laws that protect them against other people’s guns.

Well, the Health Care takeover bill is what, 2000+ pages? I’m not sure, would a printout of that size stop a round from a handgun?

malclave on March 3, 2010 at 6:22 PM

Today I was delayed 3 hours in buying a gun (more since I did not stay in the store). It could have been up to 3 days even if they found no reason to stop me from owning a gun. This is after I filled out a federal form, and a state form. Both forms required that I state my ethnicity of all things. They also asked a bunch of questions that if I had been a bad guy I or another could have lied about.

Soon I will pay property tax (rent to the government) on their assigned value of my home. Tell me how I am a free man again? I will do this with dollars that were intrusively taxed when I earned them, and after I paid a sales tax on buying the home. The last is the only one I don’t disagree with. If I’d made that money on a sale of stocks I’d have had to pay tax a 3rd time. And with all of this tax, my elected officials still spend too much choosing to burden me with inflation, higher taxes later, and or reduced services (on the things I’ve supposedly, promise, been paying for). Tell me how I am not Horse in “Animal Farm” being set up for my ‘retirement’ to a glue factory?

AnotherOpinion on March 3, 2010 at 6:51 PM

What’s your point?
Tens of thousands of people are killed every year in auto accidents.
You wanna ban cars too?
Or maybe we could just institute a national 5 MPH speed limit.
I mean, who needs a vehicle that can do 100 MPH?
Or even 50 MPH.
Your argument needs work.

soundingboard on March 3, 2010 at 4:24 PM

If you don’t get my point, you are being deliberately obtuse.

If you think a gun is just like a car, you are being even more obtuse.

Suppose we take your analogy to its logical conclusion and assume that a gun is identical to a car. It has a key (that’s a bullet) and an ignition (that’s the trigger).

Do you leave your car in the driveway with the key in the ignition? That’s the equivalent of leaving a round chambered (or even in a clip inserted in the gun) and your gun stuffed into the sofa cushions in easy reach.

Do you let your children drive your car? Do you think that if you leave your car in the driveway with the key in the ignition that someone (possibly your five year old) won’t try to drive it?

Do you trust those individuals to drive it well?

So, most of us leave our cars locked in a garage, with the key out of the ignition and stored somewhere safe away from the car, because of these possibilities.

That’s the way we prevent abuse of our vehicle, which certainly will happen if we are ignorant of precaution.

Now, flip over to the gun. The garage is now a gun safe, the bullets are being stored outside the gun, and the gun is in the safe, which has been closed and locked.

The guy comes up and starts kicking your door down.

What do you do?

My point is that using a gun requires thought, and certainly requires preparation time if you are at all interested in safety.

And we haven’t even gotten to the issue that a gun makes you a police target or that your favorite gun hiding place is well known or that you often have no idea what’s actually in your field of fire or you might think you are shooting a burglar, but you aren’t.

unclesmrgol on March 3, 2010 at 7:07 PM

You’re probably wondering why I’m still here, having been shot in the head and all. Well, I got lucky. I was able to knock the gun out of the way just in time, and the bullet wound up in the wall, instead of my brain.

Mad props to you, Doc. Seriously, that was some great quick thinking and state of mind you had going on there. Thank God you and your family came out safe.

Rightwingguy on March 3, 2010 at 7:38 PM

unclesmrgol on March 3, 2010 at 7:07 PM

I took handgun lessons from a cop, he had over 12 firearms hidden around his house, he also has grandchildren. He refuses to tell anyone where the guns are located. He keeps them in strategic places that his grandchildren can’t reach, but are immediately accessible to him.
He also relayed a story to us about going over to his mom’s house, he walked in the house and heard a shotgun being cocked, he immediately identified himself. There was no incident.
My mom used to talk about staying at home alone, whenever she felt she was being watched she’d go get her father’s handgun and put it on the table beside her so if ANYONE was looking in the window or watching her they would see it.
I was raised around guns. So was my entire neighborhood, no problems there.
Safety involves knowledge of guns. If you have knowledge of guns you respect them. The biggest issue with guns today is ignorance of them.

btw Doc, you’re awesome, I’m so happy that no one in your family was harmed. =)

Ingenue on March 3, 2010 at 7:40 PM

unclesmrgol on March 3, 2010 at 7:07 PM

So, what do you recommend the? I’m not saying firearms are a perfect defense, but (from what I can tell) you are arguing against owning them without offering an alternative.

I don’t have any kids, so thankfully, I don’t have to think of how I store my gun, just that it’s safe for me.and not in a super-obvious place.

Rightwingguy on March 3, 2010 at 7:41 PM

And we haven’t even gotten to the issue that a gun makes you a police target

How? Why are cops interested in whether or not you are legally possessing a firearm in your home?

or that your favorite gun hiding place is well known

Really? You know where my gun is?

or that you often have no idea what’s actually in your field

Well, silly me. I always thought the bullet went were the sight was pointing.

of fire or you might think you are shooting a burglar, but you aren’t.

“That you, Jom Bob?”
“Yep, you’re darn tootin’ it’s me!”

:-)

Rightwingguy on March 3, 2010 at 7:45 PM

Wow, Doc. Speechless. So glad the teenage you fought to keep you here with us now. What a gift.

publiuspen on March 3, 2010 at 7:58 PM

Awesome story Doc, I’m speechless. dude!

abobo on March 3, 2010 at 8:01 PM

The notion that citizens have no good reason to be armed, because the State can protect them from violent crime, is one of the most dangerous lies Big Government has fed its subjects

Probably already posted but the Police have no requirement to protect you. Two SCOTUS decision put to rest the lie about not needing a weapon for self defense. Both decisions said the Police exist only to clean up the mess afterwords.

My spouse and I live 30 minutes from the nearest Sheriff’s office. It would take longer than that for a car to respond. By the time the car gets here they would need the coroner because anyone entering my property for nefarious reasons will become tree fertilizer. I have a 1911 style 45 and a 45 acp. Will be getting a good mid to high caliber rifle in the very near future. I always carry on my land and generally carry openly when going places. (Live in Arizona which allows open carry)

chemman on March 3, 2010 at 8:24 PM

..I hope I am not insensitive to you situation, Doc, but I have two thoughts on this matter that guide my philosophy:

(1) Why do you carry a .45? Because they don’t make a .46!

(2) I carry a .45 because a policeman is too heavy to lug around all day.

VoyskaPVO on March 3, 2010 at 8:59 PM

(1) Why do you carry a .45? Because they don’t make a .46!

(2) I carry a .45 because a policeman is too heavy to lug around all day.

VoyskaPVO on March 3, 2010 at 8:59 PM

I know you’re joking, but if you ever come to the decision that a .45 just isn’t enough for you, there are always .44 magnum or even .50 caliber revolvers available.

Watch out, though, they’re powerful enough to break your arm when fired.

UltimateBob on March 3, 2010 at 9:29 PM

Awesome essay Doc, awesome indeed. I’m glad things worked out for you. We live in a mean world, our founders had the knowledge of that, and left us armed, thank God for these men.

And Doc, get yourself either a pump shotgun, or a good .45 ACP pistol (I’m a 1911-style fan, myself). Either one would never need to be fired, just seeing it leveled at them would have the miscreants soiling themselves and complying with orders. Don’t mess with those little 9mm toys. Pump gun is a good choice owing to the distinctive noise it makes when you cycle a round into the chamber. You would likely never have to see the animal, they’d be gone very quickly.

iurockhead on March 3, 2010 at 1:42 PM

The .45 is a great choice, I love the 1911, have several, but the home pistol is a Springfield XD with ghost ring night sights, I use 230 grain Golden Sabers in it. The shotgun is a Benelli M4, screw the pump gun. I like the rifle sights, short barrel, and semi automatic action, it is Marine issue. I also keep an old M-1 carbine around, very light, small, no over penetration.

I spend time on the range, any responsible gun owner should, you need to know what you are using, it could be your life. I am a competitive shooter, I do High-Power, and USPSA. It’s fun, it’s a discipline.

To the ladies here, learn how to protect yourselves, learn how to use a firearm, I shoot with quite a few, gender is not an advantage, you CAN do it, the ladies shoot on par with the guys, guys usually have more experience, but the ladies are quick studies, go girls… My wife loves the M1 Garand, it beats her up, but she loves the power. The AR-15 is the perfect rifle to introduce to a lady, the daintiest of ladies can use one with great confidence.

I feel that every American should know how to properly use a firearm, the criminals do, why not the rest of us? We are not a Nation of victims, stop letting them make us so.

M-14 2go on March 3, 2010 at 9:32 PM

I think gun control advocates clearly know the difference between unregistered criminally handled weapons and those possessed by law abiding citizens. Clearly these advocates prefer the work of the criminal’s weapons since this is the class of firearm they are not legislating.

ericdijon on March 3, 2010 at 9:35 PM

Rightwingguy on March 3, 2010 at 7:45 PM

Didn’t you read the links?

The cops don’t care whether you possess a firearm in your home. What they care about is encountering a person carrying a weapon in a place at which they were responding to a burglary report.

The point about knowing where you store your gun comes from a seasoned burglar. His claim is that all the non-obvious places you chose are obvious to him, precisely because they have to be readily at hand to you. He does the bed, and all the boxes at the back of the closet (his claim is that he ignores the ones at the front other than to kick them out of the way, because people are always too sneaky for their own good). Maybe you have a really good place for it — and hopefully it isn’t inside the toilet (another place he says he always checks).

Your field of fire extends through walls. Do you know what’s on the other side of the wall at which your sight is pointing?

As for shooting a burglar who isn’t, most people don’t call out for the simple fact that if it really is an armed burglar, they’ve just given him the drop on them. And, according to previous article, if the burglar is trying to feed his habit, he’s going to be really twitchy. That said, the article I linked dealt not with “Job Bob” but with young children.

As you can readily see, what you think you know isn’t what you should know.

unclesmrgol on March 3, 2010 at 9:47 PM

You have the right to defend yourself, however you are obligated to defend your family. Being prepared to die for them if necessary is a decision best made in advance, as you well know it’s one less distraction at the moment of truth.
A momma bear defending her cubs will take on a full grown Grizzly with little hesitation and win because A: they both know she is prepared to die and B: they both know he isn’t!

Pole-Cat on March 3, 2010 at 9:52 PM

Thanks again Doc. Once more you have the exact understanding of the situation. (“Issues” are for idiots IMNSHO.)
Applaud your prospective coming to the 2nd Amendment owning part of the populace.

Grew up with guns. Never been without. Life NRA, better late than never.

Tyrants and would be despots must always be fearful. The more scared, the better. At the same time they dare not attack first. “… being necessary to a free state,” is no idle phrase. And I do no bitter clinging, rather joyful practice.

Your prose is also a potent weapon. Thank you again for allowing us to view your practice.

Caststeel on March 3, 2010 at 10:05 PM

So, what do you recommend the? I’m not saying firearms are a perfect defense, but (from what I can tell) you are arguing against owning them without offering an alternative.

I don’t have any kids, so thankfully, I don’t have to think of how I store my gun, just that it’s safe for me.and not in a super-obvious place.

Rightwingguy on March 3, 2010 at 7:41 PM

I’m saying that if you do own one, it’s a thinking weapon. It shouldn’t be in a place where you can just grab it and use it.

The point of the article is that an armed citizenry is a defense against tyranny. I can see that.

The point was not that you should keep a round chambered in a firearm you’ve stuffed into your favorite hiding place.

I saw a survey about guns and gun-related deaths. The two countries with the least number of gun-related deaths are Japan (which completely prohibits private possession of firearms of any type), and Switzerland (which requires every able-bodied male to own one and keep it in their home).

In both societies, it’s the social aspect of the gun which contributes to the low death rate. The Japanese attach a very strong negative social stigma to firearms, while the Swiss attach a very high social stigma to firearms, including the necessary training in their maintenance and use, because the Swiss have a universal militia — not an army.

Of course, even the Swiss make mistakes, like the time they accidentally invaded Liechtenstein.

Here in the USA, we sell guns without training, to guys who think they can hide loaded ones properly, who think that the bullets they shoot will only hit things they can see…

I don’t have an answer to your question. Unlike the Swiss, we don’t require everyone to own one, and we guarantee those who do the right to bear them. When my dad died, my five year old son found his service revolver in a closet, and, next to it, cartridges manufactured in 1944. He brought the gun to me, holding it by the grip. I called the police to pick it and its really old cartridges up. You haven’t lived until you’ve seen your really young child carrying toward you a dirty firearm you’d never seen before, loaded with old ammo, and the safety off.

unclesmrgol on March 3, 2010 at 10:07 PM

unclesmrgol on March 3, 2010 at 10:07 PM

I did read the articles you posted.

It seemed to me that the some of problems you listed involved a criminal who was acting stupidly (as our President has said). Also, another gentleman who was shot apparently just walked in on the police carrying his weapon. Ideally (and I mean “in a perfect world”) people would identify themselves to police officers and police officers wouldn’t freak out that someone had a gun. (This is pretty unlikely of happening and I’ll get to this in a sec.)

As far as where I hide my weapon, I agree. There really isn’t a good place to hide a weapon because unless something is in a safe that’s bolted to the floor, then he/she is probably going to find and take it. If I have easy access to a gun and my home is broken into, then I have an advantage. In reality, most bad guys will get the heck out of dodge when they realize that they no longer have an advantage. (Funny, enough, though I’ve always kept my money in banks and have never thought to hide it in a toilet tank.) :-)

As far as over-penetration. That can be mitigated by buying the “right” ammunition and the “right” type of gun. A 9 mm will over-penetrate, however a .38-.40 caliber hollow point should be sufficient to stop a bad guy and not over penetrate into someone’s house. If I miss, then there is a problem. Then again, if I have an armed bad guy in my house then we are all having issues that night.

The reason the Swiss have it so well as far as firearms is that they train every able-bodied male for military service (as you aptly pointed out). We don’t. We have the right to carry firearms, but that doesn’t always include the responsibility of knowing what the Sam Hill we are doing with our Barret 50 BMG rifle.

I think that the best defense against the bad guys out there is to have a gun. However, owning a firearm should mean having the responsibility of knowing how to use it. (Like you said, its a thinking weapon). That should mean keeping the weapon and ammo separate and keeping a lock on the gun so that someone can’t just load and fire it without some sort of security in place. That means knowing how to interact with Police when you are legally carrying a gun. (I.E. Don’t walk in on them carrying one and just smile.)I am seriously against people having weapons and not knowing how to use them. That, in my opinion, is what creates the danger out there, not people simply owning firearms.

Finally, I’d like to think that if you have a bead on someone then you would have the “drop on them” and there is some luxury to have them identify themselves before shooting. (Again, up to training.)

I agree with you that there is no one right answer. I think that we could afford to have some mandatory training classes if you want to own a weapon, but that’s just me.

BTW, I’m glad your son or you wasn’t hurt. That must have been a seriously scary moment.

Rightwingguy on March 3, 2010 at 10:39 PM

M-14 2go on March 3, 2010 at 9:32 PM

My mom prefers a .38, has less kick than a .357 and is easier for her to manage. I think everybody should learn how to use a weapon. I agree, women and men can both be great shots given time and practice. It’s a great stress reliever too.

Personally, I love the .357 and .44 magnum because they are such fun to shoot (LOTS of kick!), but I can understand how some people may not like that. :-)

Rightwingguy on March 3, 2010 at 10:43 PM

Do you leave your car in the driveway with the key in the ignition?

I do.

That’s the equivalent of leaving a round chambered (or even a clip inserted in the gun)

Well yeah, sor’ta have to since the keys are in the car and all.

So, most of us leave our cars locked in a garage, with the key out of the ignition and stored somewhere safe away from the car, because of these possibilities.

You are the reason people get carjacked instead of just finding the driveway empty in the morning. Thanks alot!

I grew up in a gun shop and my dad taught me important things very young.
You always treat a gun like it’s loaded, so it might as well be.
A gun is meant to be heard and not seen. That one is a bit subtle so I’ll explain it. Never expect the mere sight of a gun to change anything for the better.
Not everyone can drive a car. Likewise not everyone can wield a gun. Nothing to be ashamed of. But the statistics prove that there are far more bad drivers than bad gun owners.

Pole-Cat on March 3, 2010 at 10:55 PM

If you don’t get my point, you are being deliberately obtuse.

If you think a gun is just like a car, you are being even more obtuse.

I didn’t say a gun was just like a car.
But it would be seriously obtuse to deny the two share certain similarities.
Lethality comes to mind.

Suppose we take your analogy to its logical conclusion and assume that a gun is identical to a car. It has a key (that’s a bullet) and an ignition (that’s the trigger).

Do you leave your car in the driveway with the key in the ignition? That’s the equivalent of leaving a round chambered (or even in a clip inserted in the gun) and your gun stuffed into the sofa cushions in easy reach.

As a matter of fact, in my area I do sometimes leave my keys in my car’s ignition.

As far as keeping a round in the chamber of my pistol, abso-freekin-lutely I do. ( for the record…i don’t have small children in my house)

And yes, it’s kept within easy reach.

Do you let your children drive your car? Do you think that if you leave your car in the driveway with the key in the ignition that someone (possibly your five year old) won’t try to drive it?

Answered that postulation above. I know no one will try to drive it. (again, no five year olds)
I can tell you from personal experience that when I was five, I knew the basics of operating a motor vehicle, but also had learned…from good parenting…never to attempt to drive said car.

Do you trust those individuals to drive it well?

I trust then not to drive it at all.

So, most of us leave our cars locked in a garage, with the key out of the ignition and stored somewhere safe away from the car, because of these possibilities.

That’s the way we prevent abuse of our vehicle, which certainly will happen if we are ignorant of precaution.

Now, flip over to the gun. The garage is now a gun safe, the bullets are being stored outside the gun, and the gun is in the safe, which has been closed and locked.

No gun safe at my house. GASP!
As a kid my father had a glass display case. I knew where the key was. Knew how to load and operate every one in the case. But,as was the case with the car, I knew better than to ever open the case and “play” with the weapons.
Again, good parenting.

The guy comes up and starts kicking your door down.

What do you do?

Personally? Pick up my weapon, take a defensive position, use my cell to dial 911, if the “guy kicking in the door” continues his assault, I will shoot him until I feel he is no longer a threat. Pretty standard self-defense actions.

My point is that using a gun requires thought, and certainly requires preparation time if you are at all interested in safety.

Using a gun requires thought? No fuckin way! Really?
And I’ve been “interested in safety” since about 1965.
I didn’t take the purchase of a self-defense firearm lightly.
I knew very well the responsibles that choice entailed.

And we haven’t even gotten to the issue that a gun makes you a police target or that your favorite gun hiding place is well known or that you often have no idea what’s actually in your field of fire or you might think you are shooting a burglar, but you aren’t.

unclesmrgol on March 3, 2010 at 7:07 PM

Police target? I’ll hafta ask one of my Sheriff’s Dept. buddies about that.

Well known hiding place? I’ll make you an offer…I’ll tell you where I hide my firearms, if you’ll tell me where you hide your car keys.

And I’ve been familiar with Rule #4 for over thirty years.

Col. Cooper’s four basic rules of gun safety.
Rule 1…All guns are always loaded.
Rule 2…Never cover with your muzzle anything you’re not willing to destroy.
Rule 3…Keep your finger off the trigger ’til your sights are on the target.
Rule 4…Identify your target and what’s behind it.

Now I’ll finish the comments and see just how many people agree with my basic premise.

soundingboard on March 4, 2010 at 2:18 AM

I’m saying that if you do own one, it’s a thinking weapon. It shouldn’t be in a place where you can just grab it and use it.

So I guess we better remove all those sidearms from the hips of policemen.

When my dad died, my five year old son found his service revolver in a closet, and, next to it, cartridges manufactured in 1944. He brought the gun to me, holding it by the grip. I called the police to pick it and its really old cartridges up. You haven’t lived until you’ve seen your really young child carrying toward you a dirty firearm you’d never seen before, loaded with old ammo, and the safety off.

Service revolver…with a safety?

And while you concern for children is commendable, your use of them in pursuit of a political agenda is abhorent.

You know when you “haven’t lived until”?
Until you sister calls and tells you her 11 year old son was stabbed to death in his kitchen.
Well, I’ve lived.

Sorry, but you touched a nerve with the “save the children” meme.

My nephew is just as dead from the kitchen knife as he would have been by gunshot.

Go wave your bloody shirt elsewhere.

Other posters have pretty much covered the “what’s behind the wall” scenario.

Once again, your argument(s) needs work.

soundingboard on March 4, 2010 at 2:36 AM

Yes, I worry about Government Tyranny but I also worry about civil unrest ( I live in L A) and I worry about what people do when they are hungry, homeless and feel helpless… so I want protection…

CCRWM on March 4, 2010 at 8:47 PM

unclesmrgol, your anecdotal stories have almost nothing to do with the reality of gun ownership and the use of firearms in self-defense. The reality is that the contrary are in fac true, that firearms are used successfully for self-defense hundreds of thousands if not millions of times yearly in this country with a very low rate of mistaken shootings and a very low rate of accidents.

SPQR on March 11, 2010 at 12:46 AM

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