Obama: We owe the public an up or down vote on this bill that the public hates

posted at 3:35 pm on March 3, 2010 by Allahpundit

You’re welcome, America.

So, no matter which approach you favor, I believe the United States Congress owes the American people a final vote on health care reform. We have debated this issue thoroughly, not just for a year, but for decades. Reform has already passed the House with a majority. It has already passed the Senate with a supermajority of sixty votes. And now it deserves the same kind of up-or-down vote that was cast on welfare reform, the Children’s Health Insurance Program, COBRA health coverage for the unemployed, and both Bush tax cuts – all of which had to pass Congress with nothing more than a simple majority.

I have therefore asked leaders in both of Houses of Congress to finish their work and schedule a vote in the next few weeks. From now until then, I will do everything in my power to make the case for reform. And I urge every American who wants this reform to make their voice heard as well – every family, every business owner, every patient, every doctor, every nurse.

Missing from this passage, just as its missing from the entire speech? The word “reconciliation.” As you’ll see below, via Greg Hengler, The One’s affecting righteous rage to intimidate Democratic fencesitters but the fact is he can’t even muster the balls to call this procedural travesty by its name. That’s not surprising, as reconciliation actually polls worse than ObamaCare itself, but it does underscore what a pure, sweet fraud his professions of innocence about the politics are. He understands the consequences perfectly well — as does Mitch McConnell — which is why the takeaway line here is “I know it’s right.” That’s the signal to Blue Dogs to vote for the greater good and let the political chips fall where they may. It’s a kamikaze mission, in other words, ordered by yet another prominent Democrat whose own ass conveniently isn’t on the line in November. Amazing how bold he and Pelosi are in asking centrists to ignore their constituents and volunteer for an operation they themselves don’t have to take part in. Chickenhawks!

Exit question: How many times does he have to repeat this crap before the ungrateful thick-headed public “knows it’s right” too? Exit answer: Thirty-five and counting.


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Pcoop on March 4, 2010 at 7:42 AM

Obama is on a kamikaze mission now. You’re overthinking this.

As soon as he said “we’re going reconciliation, and the public can decide in Nov.” he threw the entire Dem party under the bus.

He doesn’t care anymore. You can see it in his eyes. He’s lost it. He will do whatever it takes to pass his “new” HC bill.
These people are too stupid and too myopic to be having any grand runaround theories. I don’t think a HC bill is going to pass at all.

But if something does pass, a) it can be repealed (conservative talk show hosts play that down to amp up fear) and b) it will be un-funded.
500 billion in medicare cuts. No. Way. No. How.
That is simply NOT going to happen. So the whole monstrosity is not even paid for in the end even if it DOES pass.

Obama is terrifiying the dems right now. He’s single mindedly on reconciliation and it’s scaring the crap out of his party. There’s no grand positive idea at play here.
If the party loses the bill and the congress, well what did Hitler think of Germany when WWII ended? The German people didn’t deserve to win.
That’s exactly what Obama will think about his own party.

Civil war is going to break out.

Oh, and Palin looks more and more like she WON’T be running in ’12.

B Man on March 4, 2010 at 7:58 AM

Obama’s aberration is the biggest entitlement program in our history and it completely removes your right to choose your doctor and will determine whether you live or die based on the cost effectiveness of saving your life. You will be forced to pay for this disgusting garbage and if you don’t you will be disciplined and fined. And seniors . . . watch out because Medicare will be destroyed and you’ll be lucky if you can find a doctor that will provide you care. Only a hardened communist or a fool could love this beast and it must be stopped at all costs. Don’t believe what the left is touting because they will lie and cheat to pass this legislation and gain total control over your lives. Question every part of it . . . get straight answers and accept nothing short of the truth because your lives and liberties depend on it.

rplat on March 4, 2010 at 8:08 AM

“I know it’s right,” he said

“and I wish you gun-toting, Bible-clinging, bitter rubes would just shut up already. As the MSM has told you so many times, I am your moral and intellectual superior — just look at my dark skin and my fancy Ivy League degrees and my ultra-cool “progressive” associates — not to mention all those fawning, back-lit, halo cover shots of me. What more proof do you need? So get with my program and shut up about your Constitutional rights and all that other blather. I’ll tell you what your rights are; I am the final authority on all things. It’s what the Founding Fathers of this nation intended — or what they would have intended, if only those racist white dopes had been as moral and brilliant as I.”

AZCoyote on March 4, 2010 at 8:14 AM

Do it Obama. DO IT.

GW_SS-Delta on March 4, 2010 at 8:26 AM

It is so hard to figure this out, that one called to Rush asked about the healthcare spaghetti and he explained it the best he could, but he admitted towards the end that he has to get in touch with Republican contacts to figure out strategy, since this is an unprecedented event that he has not seen before.

I thought that I needed a John Boehner’s flowchart because even with Brett Baier, the reconciliation process was not easy to explain. Greta had a Dem last night that is an attorney and he will vote “no” because he hasn’t seen anything-as in the potential final does not exist, it’s not finalized or written even (my words) and he will not vote on a bill that he has not read or seen yet.

Can anybody pleaaasseee explain this in a kid-friendly easy way? With 1-2-3- steps too? There is such a ping-pong and variety of ways to get to point C that it is making my head dizzy.

I just know that it’s all connected to Nancy Pelosi. She’ll find a way to Botox this bill. Bet on it.

ProudPalinFan on March 4, 2010 at 8:35 AM

There is such a ping-pong and variety of ways to get to point C that it is making my head dizzy.

ProudPalinFan on March 4, 2010 at 8:35 AM

The more confusion, the better. That way nobody knows if what they are doing is even ‘constitutional’ as far as rules go.

TheVer on March 4, 2010 at 8:41 AM

Funny how “everything to be said, has been said” on health care apparently. yet this tool STILL keeps saying the same old stuff he’s been saying – over and over and over and over and over…

catmman on March 4, 2010 at 8:44 AM

I’ll do whatever it takes to keep America safe
- George Bush

I’ll do whatever it takes to pass healthcare
- Barrack Obama

olesparkie on March 4, 2010 at 8:47 AM

Another question…..

Has Obama dispatched his henchman, Rahm Emanual, to break the legs of recalcitrant blue dogs? Have any of them been spotted with their legs in casts and using crutches?

olesparkie on March 4, 2010 at 8:49 AM

He doesn’t care anymore. You can see it in his eyes. He’s lost it. He will do whatever it takes to pass his “new” HC bill

.
I agree with you. He has this grim, determined quietly self-righteous look in his eyes and in his body posture. A fanatic this guy, an ideological fanatic.

jeanie on March 4, 2010 at 8:50 AM

There’s already been a “no” vote;
Gonna have to make it a “hell no” vote.

Cybergeezer on March 4, 2010 at 8:54 AM

Oh; By the way, Barrack;
That zero on your last name is going to be your score as President of the United States.

Cybergeezer on March 4, 2010 at 8:57 AM

My husband was looking over my shoulder at the various, ubiquitous photos of Obama and remarked that he looks, holds his head and stands just as Il Duce did during WW2. What that says about O I don’t know but Mussolini was a pompous, self aggrandizing ass.

jeanie on March 4, 2010 at 9:01 AM

Sung to the tune from Flash Dance’s–”She’s a Maniac”

Just a Chi-Town guy on a saturday night
Lookin for the fight of his life
In the real time world no one sees him at all
They all say he’s crazy

Lockin rhythms to the beat of his heart
Changing moment into light
He has danced into the danger zone
When the dancer becomes the dance

It can cut you like a knife
If the gift becomes the fire
All the while you’re stuck between
What’s will and what will be

(CHORUS)
He’s a maniac, maniac on the floor
And he’s dancing like he never danced before
He’s a maniac, maniac on the floor
And he’s dancing like he never danced before

On the ice-filled line of sanity
It’s a place most never see
It’s a hard-won place of mystery
You can touch it but can’t hold it

You work all your life for that moment in time
It can come or pass you by
It’s a push of the world but there’s always a chance
If the hunger stays alive

There’s a cold kenetic heat
Struggling, stretching for the beat
Never stopping
With his hair against the wind

Nalea on March 4, 2010 at 9:19 AM

The Reconciliation Rule was passed to prevent a small minority from stopping budgetary items from being held up and shutting down the government. Generally it has been used for tax cuts and other such items; once for policy issues that passed anyway with bipartisan support. Even Senator Byrd has protested the use of his tactic for passing ObamaCare. If done this will be an outrage for the American people to see. ObamaCare will have to be cut up into budget type items separate from policy items by the Senate Parliamentarian. However, the President of the Senate, Mr. Biden, can overrule the Parliamentarian and have the policy portions passed as well. That might more than just outrage Americans. Then it will be time to really march on Washington

amr on March 4, 2010 at 9:32 AM

I agree with McConnell. The upcoming vote in 2010 WILL be a referendum, and a big one for America.

AnninCA on March 4, 2010 at 10:01 AM

It’s always been this way with the democrats especially since FDR’s days and his New (RAW) Deal. They know better than us what we need and what affects us directly (yeah right). Very scary, but they must be living in a parallel universe because they still ain’t got it right after 80+ years of dominating our politics. How they can keep blaming republicans and republican administrations where democrats still had enough of a majority to sabotage policies is mind boggling. 2010 AND 2012 can’t come soon enough!

mozalf on March 4, 2010 at 10:32 AM

I think Obama is simply challenging back, which is his right to do so.

Even the 2010 vote, which WILL be a clear referendum, won’t upturn both the House and the Senate. He’ll be fine.

Now, the moderates who support his agenda? I think they are going to really, really face bad elections. But it’s a matter of having to really fight a challenge versus skating to a win.

AnninCA on March 4, 2010 at 10:39 AM

They know better than us what we need and what affects us directly (yeah right). Very scary, but they must be living in a parallel universe because they still ain’t got it right after 80+ years of dominating our politics. How they can keep blaming republicans and republican administrations where democrats still had enough of a majority to sabotage policies is mind boggling. 2010 AND 2012 can’t come soon enough!

mozalf on March 4, 2010 at 10:32 AM

Europe went this direction after WWII. And from all appearances, they like their lives.

Yes, higher taxes. Yes, more security.

We really do have a problem here in that our highly capitalistic system can destroy your retirement, end your ability to even pay for your home, and affect your ability to even get healthcare.

It’s a real debate, in my opinion.

AnninCA on March 4, 2010 at 10:41 AM

Republicans need to start working on a “repeal bill”. And have it ready to go as soon as the new congress is in session.

If the election is a referendum on this bill and/or the process even some who vote for it now might for to repeal it later because it will clearly be the will of the people.

That can be the center point of the campaign next fall. Elect Republicans and we will give power back to the people.

A simple effective language bill that admonishes this congress for acting against the will of the people. And repeal it on that basis.

Then they need to have another health reform bill that makes the few necessary changes–ready to go. There is a lot of consensus. In that summit the only agreements were on Republican plans.

They need to start negotiating that now with the Dems that are willing to vote against this in the house so they can have that to campaign on too.

No poison pills. Simple legislation that cuts costs and increases choices.

petunia on March 4, 2010 at 10:46 AM

Europe went this direction after WWII. And from all appearances, they like their lives.

Yes, higher taxes. Yes, more security.

We really do have a problem here in that our highly capitalistic system can destroy your retirement, end your ability to even pay for your home, and affect your ability to even get healthcare.

It’s a real debate, in my opinion.

AnninCA on March 4, 2010 at 10:41 AM

So go live in Europe where they can coddle you like a pet from cradle to grave!

Where is your pride! How can any American want the government to take care of them. That is just disgusting!

And how soon until Europe completely collapses under the weight of their social programs.

It is not just a disgusting way to live but it doesn’t work either!

Americans are not socialist! LIVE FREE OR DIE! If that’s not what you want go live in Cuba! The grass is always greener! Europeans come here when they have really dire health problems! Canadians come here! Socialism is always always always a lie.

petunia on March 4, 2010 at 10:52 AM

So go live in Europe where they can coddle you like a pet from cradle to grave!

Where is your pride! How can any American want the government to take care of them. That is just disgusting!

And how soon until Europe completely collapses under the weight of their social programs.

It is not just a disgusting way to live but it doesn’t work either!

Americans are not socialist! LIVE FREE OR DIE! If that’s not what you want go live in Cuba! The grass is always greener! Europeans come here when they have really dire health problems! Canadians come here! Socialism is always always always a lie.

I agree with Mark Levin, what is the democrats’ fascination with Europe?! That was the reason for our revolution, or so I thought, to not be Europe. No wonder Stalin, Mussolini, and even Hitler admired FDR’s plan for the U.S.A. History repeating itself.

mozalf on March 4, 2010 at 11:17 AM

And how soon until Europe completely collapses under the weight of their social programs.

mozalf on March 4, 2010 at 11:17 AM

More like, collapse under the demographic battle to an Islamic balkanization in nearly every European country. It won’t be fun to watch.

daesleeper on March 4, 2010 at 11:21 AM

ATTENTION HOUSE DEMOCRATS!

Copenhagen said “NO” to Obama…..TWICE!

It’s okay to say “No.”

olesparkie on March 4, 2010 at 11:30 AM

Europe went this direction after WWII. And from all appearances, they like their lives.

Yes, higher taxes. Yes, more security.

We really do have a problem here in that our highly capitalistic system can destroy your retirement, end your ability to even pay for your home, and affect your ability to even get healthcare.

It’s a real debate, in my opinion.

AnninCA on March 4, 2010 at 10:41 AM

You’re missing one huge part of the equation. After WW2 European countries spent very little on defense, allowing the US military to take care of them and protect them from the USSR. This freed up lots of cash for entitlements. It would be theoretically possible for America to follow the European system, but it would require an almost complete dismantling of the US Armed Forces (unlikely, to say the least).

And from all appearances, they like their lives.

Umm. You should reconsider this. Look into it more, you may be surprised at what you find.

July 10 on March 4, 2010 at 12:05 PM

What happened to PAY GO?

Every Congressional rep who ignores PAY GO and is unwilling to cut spending must be voted out of office. Regardless of party.

Angry Dumbo on March 4, 2010 at 12:10 PM

No bill is forthcoming from the Oval Office because every time someone tries to run it through a copy or fax machine it jams up from all the boogers Barack has wiped on the pages.
Apparently Barack uses boogers for bookmarks.
It’s not “Barack Hussein Obama, MMMMM, MMMMM, MMMMM”, any more;
It’s now “Barack Hussein Obama, boogety, boogety, boogety, boogety, shoo”.

Cybergeezer on March 4, 2010 at 1:38 PM

No Mr. Obama, you lying sack of scum. What you owe the public is to own up to your campaign promises, jackass. You have to be the most dishonest president that I’ve witnessed in my lifetime and I’m 52. The next election can’t get here soon enough to suit me and most of America.

TrickyDick on March 4, 2010 at 1:41 PM

http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/

Dick Morris’ list of phone numbers of the 30 Dem Congressmen most vulnerable on obamacare. Please call them!

tigerlily on March 4, 2010 at 1:52 PM

Want to see some good research and conclusions on Healthcare legislation?
Check out The Heritage Foundation. They have copious studies on this legislation. And the cost involved.

Cybergeezer on March 4, 2010 at 2:00 PM

I feel like a chump for not realizing this before.

Rich Lowry made a post on the NRO corner that only the house vote on the senate bills matters. Reconciliation is just a way to get house member votes. If it passes the house Obama probably won’t even both with recon. He can just sign the bill.

meandchi on March 4, 2010 at 3:32 PM

typos:

I feel like a chump for not realizing this before.

Rich Lowry made a post on the NRO corner that only the house vote on the senate bill matters. Reconciliation is just a way to get house member votes. If it passes the house Obama probably won’t even bother with recon. He can just sign the bill.

meandchi on March 4, 2010 at 3:39 PM

This is pretty cool, especially after the Roberts scare:

mkhammer Hmmm. RT @jamiedupree: Rep Nathan Deal (R-GA) changes his mind, and will stay in Congress through March for health care debate/vote

Darksean on March 4, 2010 at 3:42 PM

http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/

Dick Morris’ list of phone numbers of the 30 Dem House Congressmen most vulnerable on obamacare. Please call them!

tigerlily on March 4, 2010 at 3:52 PM

From now until then, I will do everything in my power to make the case for reform.

Is the Nebraska Cornhusker bribe back in?

TN Mom on March 4, 2010 at 4:51 PM

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