Wow: Dems ready to join GOP in ousting Rangel?

posted at 5:26 pm on March 2, 2010 by Allahpundit

Alternate headline: “Democrats very, very nervous about November.”

Republicans plan to bring to the floor this week a resolution calling for Rangel’s ouster as chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, and Democratic aides say defections from vulnerable Democrats may give the GOP enough votes to prevail.

“It’s going to be very hard for us and others to vote against this,” said a senior aide to one vulnerable Democrats…

An aide to another vulnerable Democrat said embattled members — known collectively as “frontline Democrats” because of a party program to help with their re-election efforts — will have no choice but to vote to remove Rangel if the measure comes to the House floor…

[A] chief of staff to one lawmaker who is not in danger of losing to a Republican this year said even some politically safe lawmakers are ready to see Rangel go.

They need 39 Democrats to pass the resolution and they’ve already got 10 in the bank. Seven have said publicly that they’ll vote with the GOP and Walt Minnick, Frank Kratovil, and Rick Boucher are sure to bolt too given the beating they’re already taking over ObamaCare in their red districts. I’m honestly shocked: Given the Congressional Black Caucus’s support for Rangel, the politics of a Democratic schism will be poisonous, especially with Pelosi needing every last vote on health care. She could placate both sides by replacing Rangel with John Lewis, but she’d have to bypass a bunch of more senior Ways & Means committee members to get to him. Exit question: Does this put O-Care in even deeper jeopardy?


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I’ll be impressed if they do it…

PJTV Salutes Mr. Tax-Law-Writing-Tax-Evader

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UksfV5V7R20

ninjapirate on March 2, 2010 at 5:29 PM

easy to explain, Rangel has been sacrificed on the alter of “Health Care”.

rob verdi on March 2, 2010 at 5:29 PM

Dis pear. So delicious.*

*Nerd bait

TheUnrepentantGeek on March 2, 2010 at 5:30 PM

Delicious.

Midas on March 2, 2010 at 5:30 PM

eUnrepentantGeek on March 2, 2010 at 5:30 PM

K, now that was weird. lol

Midas on March 2, 2010 at 5:30 PM

That would be an appropriate use for the word unexpected.

Vashta.Nerada on March 2, 2010 at 5:31 PM

Toast. Now I want him behind bars like Wesley Snipes and Bernie Madoff for cheating on taxes and perpetuating the Dems ponzi schemes.

andy85719 on March 2, 2010 at 5:32 PM

Rangel IS the poster boy for Democrat corruption. He thinks that he can do whatever he wants, even get a pass on illegal activities because he is a black Dem.

Sporty1946 on March 2, 2010 at 5:32 PM

Who is the second highest ranking member on the committee?

Joe Caps on March 2, 2010 at 5:32 PM

Why? Did he serve his purpose or something?

upinak on March 2, 2010 at 5:33 PM

Knock off the leader and everyone moves up one in the rankings.

William Amos on March 2, 2010 at 5:34 PM

Who is the second highest ranking member on the committee?

Joe Caps on March 2, 2010 at 5:32 PM

Stark I think. Bad to worse.

Ted Torgerson on March 2, 2010 at 5:34 PM

Sacrificial lamb. I would have said black sheep but that would be racist.

Kissmygrits on March 2, 2010 at 5:36 PM

Who is the second highest ranking member on the committee?

IM afraid it might be Pete Stark.

http://waysandmeans.house.gov/singlepages.aspx?newsid=10462

William Amos on March 2, 2010 at 5:36 PM

Oh yes please put Pete Stark out there. That would be hilarious to watch the dems skirm with that guy at the helm.

DanMan on March 2, 2010 at 5:39 PM

I’ll believe it when I see it.

cibolo on March 2, 2010 at 5:40 PM

William Amos on March 2, 2010 at 5:36 PM

No wonder we’re in such bad shape. What a list of crooks on the left side of that list.

Sporty1946 on March 2, 2010 at 5:41 PM

Any Democrat who votes to keep Rangel has got some easy to write campaign ads heading straight at them. Pelosi will have to dump him before that train wreck happens.

pedestrian on March 2, 2010 at 5:41 PM

Exit question: Does this put O-Care in even deeper jeopardy?

Let’s hope so, Considering how many times it’s been called dead and then sprung back to life… It can’t help.

SHARPTOOTH on March 2, 2010 at 5:42 PM

I’ll believe it when I see it.

For all those that vote for this………..

be prepared to be called racists. I’m sure MSNBC already has Al Sharpton lined up just for this special occasion.

Knucklehead on March 2, 2010 at 5:42 PM

Wait – I don’t get it. So, ObamaCare is so screwed up they have to pass it or face disaster, but Rangel is so messed up they have to dump him or face disaster?

Methinks, Mr. Zig and Mr. Zag are about to have a violent, involuntary introduction.

alexwest on March 2, 2010 at 5:42 PM

Racism card about to be played, 5, 4, 3, 2…

Cicero43 on March 2, 2010 at 5:42 PM

Perhaps he can be given a post to head the new Health Care Administration, which will require about 600,000 new government jobs — including all those House member willing to fall on their swords.

Dhuka on March 2, 2010 at 5:42 PM

It’ll never happen. Democrats are above the law.

Del Dolemonte on March 2, 2010 at 5:43 PM

Note to self:

1)Clean popcorn maker
2)Buy more oil

journeyintothewhirlwind on March 2, 2010 at 5:45 PM

If they get rid or Rangel people will think they don’t know how “to govern ethically”.

They really need to keep him on and power through this until November.

alexwest on March 2, 2010 at 5:45 PM

Never happen.

jukin on March 2, 2010 at 5:46 PM

Sure its going to be called racists and PREMATURE, after all Charlie has felonious counts yet to be ruled on .
HONOR AMONG THIEVES .
Like a Guppy eating her young .
Rangel has to go sooner or Later and of course it takes the spotlight off of the crashing Health Care debate .
Maybe more Dems get scared and decide to at least pretend to be honest and upright .
Why hasnt the “O” said something stupid or asked Rangel to step down ?
WHY HAS IT TAKEN SO LONG ?

ELMO Q on March 2, 2010 at 5:47 PM

astute comment at Politico

You’re being PLAYED.

Politico has their marching orders to gin up support for giving Charlie the boot.

Me? I WANT Charlie in office, in his chairmanship, defending himself from charges, and in his campaign running for reelection November 2010.

I want the votes to see what Pelosi’s words mean when she promises to “drain the swamp.”

It doesn’t strike you as odd that Politico is devoting as much resources to Rangel — ON THE PETTY CHARGES — at this particular time?

1. release findings on the smaller infractions Rangel has committed.

2. gin up support for him to resign.

3. bottle up and NEVER release findings on the true corruption and crime. Never release it because it’s irrelevent and moot since Rangel has resigned.

4. Run a fresh new Democrat in November without a peep about the corruption and crime of the Democrat leadership.

They’re dripping out the little crap and nudging Rangel to keep the big crap from ever seeing the light of day.

And Politico is nudging just as their sources command they do.

windansea on March 2, 2010 at 5:47 PM

Aw man I want him to stay so he can star in campaign ads for the GOP.

Joe Caps on March 2, 2010 at 5:47 PM

Given the Congressional Black Caucus’s support for Rangel, the politics of a Democratic schism will be poisonous….

Poor Nancy, who’s running this show anyway? If Rangel gets tossed you can bet the CBC will tell Nancy to ‘go pound sand’ on health care.

GarandFan on March 2, 2010 at 5:47 PM

Exit question: Does this put O-Care in even deeper jeopardy?

If the Dems do this, then I say yea. It would be the first big schism between Pelosi and her caucus, and it would indicate the Dems are starting to consider their own careers. Once there is one crack, I think it’s even harder for Pelosi to hold things together. A Rangel rebellion would be a sign no one will fall on their sword for Pelosi.

INC on March 2, 2010 at 5:48 PM

ummm, were talking about Democrats here……they have no shame or integrity…..Rangel stays put.

tommer74 on March 2, 2010 at 5:49 PM

But but but… he’s black. Haven’t they forgotten? You can’t vote against a black person, can you?

joe_doufu on March 2, 2010 at 5:50 PM

One… two… three…

RAAAAAAAAACIST !!!!!!!!

Sugar Land on March 2, 2010 at 5:50 PM

If he was a mean ol’ Republican he would be in jail already. How long did it take to put Duke Cunningham in the pokey?

Sporty1946 on March 2, 2010 at 5:51 PM

I’d rather see Barney Frank without power than poor Charlie. Frank is far more dangerous to this nation’s fiscal health.

Rovin on March 2, 2010 at 5:52 PM

Exit question: Does this put O-Care in even deeper jeopardy?

Even in our politics-is-life-or-death-on-every-issue world, I am open to the possibility that some Democrats would vote to remove this fat, corrupt POS only because he’s a fat, corrupt POS, and not because of whatever spin we might put on it.

Jaibones on March 2, 2010 at 5:53 PM

Charlie Rangel and Susan Estrich

mmm…gravely voice-porn.

The Race Card on March 2, 2010 at 5:53 PM

Republicans plan to bring to the floor this week a resolution calling for Rangel’s ouster as chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee

And it will be easy. Just strike out Tom DeLay and insert Charles Rangel in both the House resolution and Nancy Pelosi’s speak calling for Republicans to do the right thing and it’s done.

ROCnPhilly on March 2, 2010 at 5:55 PM

Ok, so some will accuse us, and others of racism over this? Then what? We’re all supposed to just sit idly by, and let this continue, without repurcussions, or reprimands, or…what?

Crime is crime, and if we can’t get past the color of the skin of the person doing the crime…we’re doomed. I don’t care if Rangel is purple, and green, with yellow stripes. He needs to step down! As do so many others, and I don’t care what their party affiliation is. It’s time to end this kind of behavior, and it’s especially time to stop enabling it, because they are some sort of exalted politician. They’re like the rest of us, and if the rest of us have to play by the rules, so should our elected officials.

capejasmine on March 2, 2010 at 5:56 PM

The stupid party better known as the Republican party should wash there hands from this and leave it entirely up to the dems.The Republican don,t know a gift horse staring them in face.Let the dems take all the heat on this.If they remove him fine if they don,t then the dems are the blame.When the libs are down and hurting why in the hell do the Rep. always seem to want to help them?

thmcbb on March 2, 2010 at 5:56 PM

Republicans plan to bring to the floor this week a resolution calling for Rangel’s ouster as chairman of the House Ways and Means Committeecongressman

TheVer on March 2, 2010 at 5:57 PM

The CBC will go ballistic if this happens. Popcorn for everyone!

irishspy on March 2, 2010 at 5:58 PM

Charlie Rangel and Susan Estrich

mmm…gravely voice-porn.

The Race Card on March 2, 2010 at 5:53 PM

A re-make of Hello Dolly with Rangle instead of Louie Armstrong and Estrich instead of Carol Channing.

thomasaur on March 2, 2010 at 5:58 PM

For all those that vote for this………..

be prepared to be called racists. I’m sure MSNBC already has Al Sharpton lined up just for this special occasion.

Knucklehead on March 2, 2010 at 5:42 PM

Four things will happen:
(1) It will be mostly ignored by the nets because it puts a bad light on the Dems, but (2) that will not stop some foolpundit from screaming that racism has now risen “unexpectedly” in Congress. Finally, (3) Harold Ford Jr. will be interviewed by a cable channel to discuss the lack of support for African-American politicians in New York state. And (4) the white interviewer will try to coax Ford into saying that the answer to all these ills is more Obama.

Grab the popcorn. . .

pt on March 2, 2010 at 5:58 PM

Why are Obama’s Dems going after NY’s black and hispanic leaders? These racist dems won’t give a brother a break.

JiangxiDad on March 2, 2010 at 5:58 PM

I’m thinking that if Rangel gets tossed out that he gets his glory too. He’ll be given a chance to do some redress to his legacy, which is a huge part of the dem legacy. They can’t afford to lose Teddy and Rangel in the same year, especially in light of Obama’s tragic numbers.

But but but… he’s black. Haven’t they forgotten? You can’t vote against a black person, can you?

joe_doufu on March 2, 2010 at 5:50 PM

Sure you can. Just like you can be white and vote for white people all of your life and not be racist.

The Race Card on March 2, 2010 at 5:59 PM

Does this put O-Care in even deeper jeopardy?

This puts O-everything, and P-everything in jeopardy…the people are P-O’d…

right2bright on March 2, 2010 at 6:00 PM

thomasaur on March 2, 2010 at 5:58 PM

Makes my blood scream bloody-murder.

The Race Card on March 2, 2010 at 6:00 PM

So he’s removed as committee chair, Rangel is still criminalizing his position and should be thrown from office as well as brought under charges; this is ridiculous.

Bishop on March 2, 2010 at 6:01 PM

Charlie Rangel and Susan Estrich

mmm…gravely voice-porn.

The Race Card on March 2, 2010 at 5:53 PM

Don’t spend time in NYC do you? Susan’s voice is normal.

katy the mean old lady on March 2, 2010 at 6:01 PM

Racists!

Jim-Rose on March 2, 2010 at 6:02 PM

A re-make of Hello Dolly with Rangle instead of Louie Armstrong and Estrich instead of Carol Channing.

thomasaur on March 2, 2010 at 5:58 PM

Instead of Hello Dolly it’s Goodbye Chollie.

Steve Z on March 2, 2010 at 6:05 PM

Don’t spend time in NYC do you? Susan’s voice is normal.

katy the mean old lady on March 2, 2010 at 6:01 PM

as is your hearing

The Race Card on March 2, 2010 at 6:05 PM

pt on March 2, 2010 at 5:58 PM

You forgot one…….

5. Another “race” speech by Barry.

Knucklehead on March 2, 2010 at 6:07 PM

Don’t spend time in NYC do you? Susan’s voice is normal.

katy the mean old lady on March 2, 2010 at 6:01 PM

I kid. I’ve heard her since many times since my days of fantasizing about her once guttural, gargley pipes.

The Race Card on March 2, 2010 at 6:07 PM

Don’t spend time in NYC do you? Susan’s voice is normal.
katy the mean old lady on March 2, 2010 at 6:01 PM

Hehehehehehe.

Bishop on March 2, 2010 at 6:07 PM

But, but, but…he got an admonition, says Prissy Pelosi. And what about Dodd and his shady deals, are they just going to let him slide? Most corrupt Congress evah.

scalleywag on March 2, 2010 at 6:07 PM

as is your hearing

The Race Card on March 2, 2010 at 6:05 PM

Hearing fine.

katy the mean old lady on March 2, 2010 at 6:09 PM

Perp walk. Jail.

One can daydream.

tru2tx on March 2, 2010 at 6:10 PM

Harold Ford Jr. will be interviewed by a cable channel to discuss the lack of support for African-American politicians in New York state. And (4) the white interviewer will try to coax Ford into saying that the answer to all these ills is more Obama.

Grab the popcorn. . .

pt on March 2, 2010 at 5:58 PM

“white interviewer”

Very nice, Jack Johnson’s rolling in his grave notwithstanding.

The Race Card on March 2, 2010 at 6:11 PM

I kid. I’ve heard her since many times since my days of fantasizing about her once guttural, gargley pipes.

The Race Card on March 2, 2010 at 6:07 PM

Head for Brooklyn. Many women of your dreams await!

katy the mean old lady on March 2, 2010 at 6:11 PM

wRangles last days…he has about much chance as health care.
The dems on the cusp want nothing to do with this administration…the unemployment lines don’t look any better to a political hack out of office.

right2bright on March 2, 2010 at 6:12 PM

Don’t spend time in NYC do you? Susan’s voice is normal.

katy the mean old lady on March 2, 2010 at 6:01 PM

Estrich’s voice is not “normal”, haven’t spent to much time in So. Cal where she lives do you?
Her voice (although better since getting voice training, and a face lift…I don’t know what that has to do with it, just wanted to throw it in) is like fingernails on a chalk board…what’s her favorite “wine”, “the camera’s not on me….”

right2bright on March 2, 2010 at 6:17 PM

Wow, funny how a little electoral pressure can turn anyone racist.

conservnut on March 2, 2010 at 6:20 PM

I can say this much, If Minnick is voting with the Republicans, it won’t be because his seat is in jepoardy. Other than some of his social stances which puts him in Guliani territory, Fiscally he’s the best elected official we have in Idaho.

Rangel needs to be removed. The guy has some serious ethics problems going back many years. But lets not just stop there. We need to admonish all such behavior and that includes Republicans that do this crap too. Todd Tiahrt of Kansas specificly comes to mind from Ed’s piece this morning.

BigRichardSmall on March 2, 2010 at 6:20 PM

As I recall, Adam Clayton Powell used to have this seat in Congress and he was just as corrupt as Rangel.

Special Forces Grunt on March 2, 2010 at 6:20 PM

Nothing will happen to Rangel the best we can hope for is that he is the ranking member on the ways and means in the 112th congress.

tjexcite on March 2, 2010 at 6:21 PM

Rangel will have to be kicked to the curb and his feudal state Congressional district will have to be dismantled in order for things to be right in that area of the City.

The sooner, the better.

newton on March 2, 2010 at 6:24 PM

Oh yes please put Pete Stark out there. That would be hilarious to watch the dems skirm with that guy at the helm.

DanMan on March 2, 2010 at 5:39 PM

No kidding! We don’t hear enough from that old fruit loop, and it would be nice to remind the Democrats when they turned batshit crazy. It was when people like Stark got into office.

chunderroad on March 2, 2010 at 6:26 PM

IM afraid it might be Pete Stark.

http://waysandmeans.house.gov/singlepages.aspx?newsid=10462

William Amos on March 2, 2010 at 5:36 PM

Corrupt? A fiscal moron? An agenda-driven lefty?

onlineanalyst on March 2, 2010 at 6:31 PM

And what about Dodd and his shady deals, are they just going to let him slide? Most corrupt Congress evah.

scalleywag on March 2, 2010 at 6:07 PM

They found someone to replace Dodd and gave him a nice cushy job for services rendered. He can spend more time with the family in his undervalued Irish cottage.

chunderroad on March 2, 2010 at 6:31 PM

Some Democrat is a genious!

If they vote Rangel out the Congressional Black Caucus will be so angry at Pelosi that they will not back ObamaCare. They had already threatened to defect. If Pelosi loses the CBC then she does not have enough votes.

Brilliant, vote out a Corrupt politician AND you don’t have to walk the plank on Obamacare!

barnone on March 2, 2010 at 6:35 PM

Politico’s Jake Sherman reports:

Rep. Pete Stark (D-Calif.) sounds like an ethics investigator’s worst nightmare.

During an interview last summer with the outside Office of Congressional Ethics, Stark was belligerent. He insulted his interviewers. And he apparently was videotaping the interview.

“Throughout the interview Rep. Stark was extremely belligerent and frequently insulted the OCE staff members interviewing him,” Kendric Payne, the investigative counsel, wrote in a memorandum deep in the 122-page report recently released. “Approximately 15 minutes into the interview it also became apparent to the OCE interviewers that Rep. Stark was videotaping the exchange.”

The interview with the Office of Congressional Ethics, which refers cases to the House Ethics Committee, didn?t go terribly well, according to the report. Stark initially said he didn?t know what the tax credit was, but later said he did not want to discuss what he knew. Then he later said he knew the application specified one must be registered to vote in Maryland to apply. He acknowledged that neither he nor his wife are Maryland voters.

Stark originally said he did not recall completing the application online. Later in the interview, the memorandum says, he said he knew he completed the application.

I know it’s Congress, and worse Democrats, that we’re talking about. But can’t they find anyone trustworthy for the Ways and Means Committee?

chunderroad on March 2, 2010 at 6:36 PM

Estrich’s voice is not “normal”, haven’t spent to much time in So. Cal where she lives do you?
Her voice (although better since getting voice training, and a face lift…I don’t know what that has to do with it, just wanted to throw it in) is like fingernails on a chalk board…what’s her favorite “wine”, “the camera’s not on me….”

right2bright on March 2, 2010 at 6:17 PM

Where she lives has zero to do with her accent. My couisin has lived in LA for years. Voice straight from Bawlmer,hon.

katy the mean old lady on March 2, 2010 at 6:41 PM

I don’t see how the race card applies here. That’s just decades of greasy buildup. The guy is pushing 80. Just goaway old man, and be grateful you don’t get what ya really got cummin’.

ontherocks on March 2, 2010 at 6:48 PM

Judicial Watch has listed Rangel as one of the most corrupt of 2009: http://www.judicialwatch.org/news/2009/dec/judicial-watch-announces-list-washington-s-ten-most-wanted-corrupt-politicians-2009

Rangel’s corruption goes back farther than last year. JW has been pursuing litigation against a number of characters in the swamp.

onlineanalyst on March 2, 2010 at 6:50 PM

I just don’t get it! These Dems are worried about the voter’s reactions to letting Rangel remain as Ways and Means
Chairman, but they are not worried about the far greater and cataclysmic reation to forcing O Care down everyone’s throat. I simply don’t get it, don’t understand it and am getting the impression that I live in some sort or surreal world where the old rules no longer apply. Are there hallucinogens in the WH and Congressional water sources? Can find no other explanation, at least a sane one!

jeanie on March 2, 2010 at 7:12 PM

I don’t see how the Dems can afford him…they’re already skating on thin ice.

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 2, 2010 at 7:37 PM

I don’t see how the Dems can afford him…they’re already skating on thin ice.

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 2, 2010 at 7:37 PM

The ice is cracking underneath these folks.

Dr Evil on March 2, 2010 at 7:49 PM

“Good-bye Charlie, hate to see you go…” Rangel will fall on his sword within the next 48 hours.

Eff Cliffy on March 2, 2010 at 8:00 PM

I must agree, the popcorn is wonderful here.

I think this is a good move, both ethically and politically.

Scott H on March 2, 2010 at 8:03 PM

77 WABC just said Rangel is stepping down TEMPORARILY? These dems are incredibly incompetent and UNWILLING to give up power regardless of the laws they break.

dthorny on March 2, 2010 at 8:03 PM

Man, I swear< Rangel looks like a villain from a Batman movie.

TheSitRep on March 2, 2010 at 8:08 PM

77 WABC just said Rangel is stepping down TEMPORARILY? These dems are incredibly incompetent and UNWILLING to give up power regardless of the laws they break.

dthorny on March 2, 2010 at 8:03 PM

Taking a page from Dr. Phil Jones?

Eff Cliffy on March 2, 2010 at 8:10 PM

Man, I swear< Rangel looks like a villain from a Batman movie.

TheSitRep on March 2, 2010 at 8:08 PM

The Penguin…only dumber, yet, just as greasy.

dthorny on March 2, 2010 at 8:11 PM

Pete Stark for Ways and Means!

Oh man, this will be must-see TV for sure.

JEM on March 2, 2010 at 8:11 PM

Taking a page from Dr. Phil Jones?

Eff Cliffy on March 2, 2010 at 8:10 PM

At least he admitted he lied and made mistakes, Rangel blames his staff, the maids, the housekeeper….waiting for him to blame Bush or Halliburton.

dthorny on March 2, 2010 at 8:14 PM

NRO’s The Corner is reporting that Charlie Rangel will retire from the Chairmanship of the Ways and Means Comm. tonight.

Fred 2 on March 2, 2010 at 8:20 PM

NRO’s The Corner is reporting that Charlie Rangel will retire from the Chairmanship of the Ways and Means Comm. tonight.

Fred 2 on March 2, 2010 at 8:20 PM

Does that stepping down mean temporarily or permanently. Does either mean that the rest of the ethics investigations against him are dropped? It shouldn’t. These others add up to a fine case for his losing his seat.

onlineanalyst on March 2, 2010 at 8:36 PM

Question: Will Obama reach out a helping hand to Rangel? He stood by Geithner; but Van Jones, David Patterson and Desiree Rogers not so much.

Will Louis Farrakhan still blame “the white people”??

TN Mom on March 2, 2010 at 10:20 PM