Video: MSNBC host confronts tea partiers about their Nazi sympathies or something
posted at 7:13 pm on March 2, 2010 by Allahpundit
Dynamite grandstanding from a guy who’s practiced in the art. In his rush to holler at the wingnut hordes, though, he actually misses an opportunity. Instead of challenging Williams on some of the kookier things he’s said, which would have illustrated the point about occasionally blurry lines between the fringe and mainstream, Ratigan’s content to shout his way to morally righteous nirvana. Not sure why; the position of shrieking liberal on MSNBC has already been filled nicely, thank you.
Two questions that are never answered in these guilt-by-association harangues: What, precisely, does Ratigan want to see happen to condemn the racists in the group, and what does he suppose tea partiers gain politically by being linked to them? On the first point, there’s no leader or central authority to do the necessary excommunication; in fact, one of the key principles of the movement is to stay as informal and decentralized as possible. If a Klansman calls himself a tea partier, there’s not much one can do to “prove” he isn’t short of either surveying tea party organizers or self-styled tea partiers nationwide about whether they want scumbags in the ranks. I don’t doubt what the result would be (nor, in all likelihood, does James Carville), but I guess Ratigan does. On the second point, since the raison d’etre of the party is to exert pressure on politicians to shrink government, how on earth would the movement as a whole benefit from voluntarily embracing fringe characters? It would be self-discrediting and give big government proponents every reason in the world to dismiss them (which, of course, is why Ratigan, Frank Rich, etc. are so eager to talk about the fringier elements). Ratigan himself acknowledges at the beginning here that the tea party is based on some noble civic principles. In which case, what? They have a political death wish to sabotage those principles by holding keggers with Nazis? I don’t get it.
Then again, those ‘baggers do seem awfully confused lately. Why, just a few days ago, Jim Bunning’s office was the target of a bomb threat. I wonder which nefarious right-wing proto-terrorist outfit was responsible for that.
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Is this the same network that has a talking head who when talking about the Tsunami said that “Hawaii has a large American population? ” LOL
400lb Gorilla on March 2, 2010 at 7:17 PM
Why do those that are anti-tea party insist on saying tea partiers are racists? Honest question- and I am getting sick of reading letters to the editor calling us racists.
cibolo on March 2, 2010 at 7:18 PM
I hadn’t heard that one! LOL! is right!
cibolo on March 2, 2010 at 7:19 PM
check out Glenn becks rant at the end today, on just why it is Dems would call Republicans nazi’s? Why because they are on the same side of the scale because of “Progressivism”. Later claiming support for the “Progressive” Patriot Act confirms it, moving both his Red/Blue lines on his diagram next to Mao, Stalin, Hitler, etc.
truly idiotic and ignorant segment. He had George Washington on the far Right. I wonder if he realizes what all George Washington, John Adams, and Thomas Jefferson did under their Article II powers in the name of National Security? Are the Founders “Progressives”?
jp on March 2, 2010 at 7:20 PM
Why would anyone agree to appear on MSNBC to begin with?
darwin on March 2, 2010 at 7:22 PM
OT: Shep said that Bunning reached a deal with Reid and they are going to vote on how to fund the UE extension tonight.
Joe Caps on March 2, 2010 at 7:22 PM
I think every host, no make that everyone on PMSNBC deserves to get a righteous beat-down.
Sporty1946 on March 2, 2010 at 7:23 PM
Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei
Translated: National Socialist German Workers Party
Now, which party is the closest to being Socialist?
Chip on March 2, 2010 at 7:25 PM
Simple. To bait morons like Dylan Ritalin into rants like this. Everytime a MSDNC nut goes off like that, it adds more viewers for FoxNews and further cements the demise of the lamestream media.
Doughboy on March 2, 2010 at 7:25 PM
Bill Ayers
Joe Caps on March 2, 2010 at 7:26 PM
Short of excommunication from Democrat Party operatives, what will the Democrat Party do to distance themselves from the Grand Kleagle of the KKK, Senator Robert “Jooooos” Byrd? Please answer that MS-LSD.
Andy in Agoura Hills on March 2, 2010 at 7:27 PM
I’ll bet the Rat is forced to apologize. This is over the top, even for MSLSD.
aquaviva on March 2, 2010 at 7:27 PM
Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei
Translated: National Socialist German Workers Party
Now, which party is the closest to being Socialist?
Chip on March 2, 2010 at 7:25 PM
Too right Chip! Someone inform Rattiwig and that horrible pile of crap on his head he believes is hair!
Gob on March 2, 2010 at 7:28 PM
Because it’s standard Alinsky tactics. I’m sure those letters you read are plants. That’s the democrat, and media game.
darwin on March 2, 2010 at 7:29 PM
Racist?
Which party choose a presidential candidate based more on the color of his skin rather than the content of his character?
Chip on March 2, 2010 at 7:29 PM
Good Lord. He is worse than Pissy Matthews for talking over people and not letting his guests answer. The MSDNC needs to be taken off the air.
milwife88 on March 2, 2010 at 7:30 PM
How many viewers does MSNBC have now, 3…4?
GarandFan on March 2, 2010 at 7:30 PM
And which party supports the NAZI eugenics approach to health care … hmmm
tarpon on March 2, 2010 at 7:31 PM
It has nothing to do with race. It has all to do with putting one’s opponent on the defensive, ridiculing them and making them live up to some false standard.
The thing Williams should have done was immediately point out MSNBC’s lack of diversity and ask if they’re really qualified to be talking about racism when they seem to be a hotbed of racism themselves.
darwin on March 2, 2010 at 7:33 PM
Ratigan? Is it bad that right after I read that I thought of this guy http://www.mousedetective.com/images/professor_ratigan.jpg ??
Seems like they have about the same temperament. =/
Ingenue on March 2, 2010 at 7:33 PM
Wow, a vein popping ‘When did you stop beating your wife’ attack.
Whoda thunk it???
BigWyo on March 2, 2010 at 7:33 PM
cognitive dissonance.
ted c on March 2, 2010 at 7:34 PM
And who never misses a chance to protest Isreal and chant ‘Death to the Zionists’. Oh yeah. It’s those peace loving anti-war leftists.
Sporty1946 on March 2, 2010 at 7:34 PM
What the heck was that all about? Propaganda? Who wouldn’t even let the guy speak. What a toolbag. Jesus. Bad even for MSLSD.
therightwinger on March 2, 2010 at 7:35 PM
The Party of Projection is at it again.
Chip on March 2, 2010 at 7:36 PM
The best thing to do for the TP is to distance themselves from radical neoconservatives like Giuliani, in favor of more mainstream traditional figures like Ron Paul.
The Dean on March 2, 2010 at 7:37 PM
There are people at Tea Parties holding signs sayig they want to kill blacks and Jews? Huh. You’d think we’d have heard more about this.
Emily M. on March 2, 2010 at 7:37 PM
Really shocking to see this incarnation of Ratigan- he was really good at CNBC without any hint of leftist lunacy.
I really wish it was an act- never saw this insanity at CNBC.
jjshaka on March 2, 2010 at 7:40 PM
4 WORDS
Louis Farrakhan
Nuff Said
donabernathy on March 2, 2010 at 7:40 PM
Who watches this ****?
LibTired on March 2, 2010 at 7:41 PM
This guy really needs to brush up on his interviewing skills.
Count to 10 on March 2, 2010 at 7:43 PM
Why don’t you go spank your monkey while gazing at youR Mark Levin poster and STFU.
thomasaur on March 2, 2010 at 7:43 PM
When I worked on the NYSE floor, I knew Dylan (he was the CNBC floor reporter) and remember him being dumb as a rock, obnoxious and loud.
Daveyardbird on March 2, 2010 at 7:44 PM
This guy is such a psycho.
therightwinger on March 2, 2010 at 7:44 PM
Liberal really are obsessed with teabagging, they must do it to themselves, a lot.
Speakup on March 2, 2010 at 7:45 PM
Ratigan makes himself out to be a complete dolt.
I don’t even know any racist Tea Party people. If anyone should be gone after for not distancing themselves from racists it is Ron Paul – which is part of the reason I don’t support Ron Paul and don’t consider him a Tea Party candidate or many of his supporters Tea Party members. They would love the support and are vying for support but Paul’s isolationism and other extreme views are outside Tea Party views.
It’s not like Democrats don’t have their racists and other warts, either. In fact there is a long history of racism being embraced by the Democrat party. Hopefully we are all moving past those issues.
Mr Purple on March 2, 2010 at 7:45 PM
What lib group is he talking about? I know a lot of liberal Democrat groups are filled with wackos and racists, but I never heard him name a specific one.
Yeah, guilt by association, no matter how small must always be defended by any individual or group that is conservative.
Of course, Liberals and Democrats can associate with pretty much anyone they want, crime families, communist dictators, thugs, tax cheats, terrorists and the like and the silence is deafening.
JellyToast on March 2, 2010 at 7:46 PM
If a Klansman calls himself a tea partier, there’s not much one can do to “prove” he isn’t short of either surveying tea party organizers or self-styled tea partiers nationwide about whether they want scumbags in the ranks.
I contend that neither party has a monopoly on intra-racial discord.
The Race Card on March 2, 2010 at 7:49 PM
I thought Ratigan was pretty good on Fast Money…Is he trying to pay off gambling debts or something??? Why is he working for the nuts at MSNBC. He’s selling his soul for a paycheck for whatever reason…The lefties are trying desperately to “Palinize” Tea-Partiers…Stop talking to them and police your own ranks, i.e. weed out the nut-jobs. And, some of the nut-jobs will be paid by Moveon.org. Even more reason for the Tea-party movement to remain truly a grass roots campaign of average Americans. The shriller the left become, the more we know it is working…
Nozzle on March 2, 2010 at 7:49 PM
Wow. When you think the lefty media can sink no further, they double down and get even worse. Open spamming for the “Coffee Party,” fully demented screaming at conservatives on TV. Amazing stuff.
Django on March 2, 2010 at 7:50 PM
It’s called projection. Accuse or denounce your opponents by claiming that they are what you are most guilty of.
Sporty1946 on March 2, 2010 at 7:51 PM
This happened on MSNBC? Deuce you say!
AUINSC on March 2, 2010 at 7:52 PM
Coming soon to MSNBC – Howard Beale.
Django on March 2, 2010 at 7:52 PM
This coming from the Great White Network known as NBC aka Nothin But Caucasions for TV hosts?
It’s like this entire MSLSD network shills for Obowma………huh, say what?
dthorny on March 2, 2010 at 7:53 PM
I used to watch a trading show on CNBC that had DR as the host and he seemed to have a sense of humor and a more even keel approach.
This person now seems “disturbed”, as in off his meds, or just informed of a pink slip in his near future.
I think there’s a little too much RED BULL flowing at MSLSD.
ontherocks on March 2, 2010 at 7:54 PM
Alinsky tactics in action: pick a target, frame it, isolate it.
George Soros orders them and they do what he says.
dthorny on March 2, 2010 at 7:55 PM
What’s truly maddening is that the Left has imbued their propaganda into the culture so much that is they who can be racists and national socialists without any consequences.
Meanwhile, Conservatives are constantly on the defensive for just being Conservatives.
Chip on March 2, 2010 at 7:55 PM
A foundational belief of Leftism is that underclass whites will be better off under Leftist policies, and that this is so manifestly true that even the underclass whites themselves cannot possibly fail to realize it. The only way the Right ever wins elections, in this view, is because it uses racial and religious identity politics to convince underclass whites to act against their economic self-interest. Read Thomas Frank’s What’s the Matter with Kansas for a full treatment of this notion… or rather don’t read it, because it’s a titanic bucket of codswallop.
At any rate, yes, Ratigan absolutely, fundamentally, unshakably believes that the Tea Party movement doesn’t merely embrace kooks but actually depends upon them for its success. Exposing that connection is a win-win for him: Either the Tea Party disavows the kooks and thus alienates underclass whites, or it fails to disavow the kooks and alienates educated voters. That the kooks are entirely irrelevant to the Tea Party’s success is simply inconceivable to Ratigan.
Fabozz on March 2, 2010 at 7:57 PM
Yes, but which side is more likely to get a free pass on the issue?
Chip on March 2, 2010 at 7:58 PM
There are actually real live human beings still watching this channel? Guess some folks have nothing better to do. *yawn*
capejasmine on March 2, 2010 at 8:01 PM
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I agree. Many on the left wage their whole wad on the inflated canards about the right, especially race, gender and sexuality issues.
The Race Card on March 2, 2010 at 8:05 PM
The left WANTS The Tea Partiers to be Nazis because they dont want to have to compromise or defend their positions. They just want it to be OK to hate them and racism is the only sin left that allows them to do so. Really, it’s nothing more than lazy hatred.
ronsfi on March 2, 2010 at 8:10 PM
And a hearty get bent, Sir!
Mason on March 2, 2010 at 8:12 PM
That’s an interesting way of expressing that but I would agree.
I submit that it is the left that keeps the race issue alive for their own benefit.
It would be really nice if we could just judge people on their character and not on external appearances that are out of their control.
Chip on March 2, 2010 at 8:13 PM
What was that? I don’t blame the guy for saying ok and just walking off and does that host really expect anyone to give him any credability whatsoever?
boomer on March 2, 2010 at 8:16 PM
Oh joy. Another insane asylum escapee gets his own TV show on MSNBC.
pilamaye on March 2, 2010 at 8:16 PM
With Bathtub Boy, Chrissy Tingles, Shuster and now The Rat,
they’ve got a Murderer’s Row lineup at MSNBC. Have there ever been a more prodigious group intellects proudly and loudly drunk on their own superior insights?
Ratigan ought to call his show Shoutdown.
ontherocks on March 2, 2010 at 8:19 PM
Exactly. I didn’t choose to be this well-endowed.
The Race Card on March 2, 2010 at 8:19 PM
What an unbelievable f’ing doucheb*g.
Dopenstrange on March 2, 2010 at 8:33 PM
Spit that out it’s not yours.
thomasaur on March 2, 2010 at 8:35 PM
Yes that’s true, of course Ratigan only has a very short way to go in his quest to make his problem obvious.
Speakup on March 2, 2010 at 8:36 PM
How often the left forgets that the nazi party was actually the National Socialist party…
wildcat84 on March 2, 2010 at 8:36 PM
The Dems are trying to smear the Tea Partiers as racists. Who wants to join or support a racist organization?
Tea Party representatives need some canned responses to counter this kind of smear, like “We condemn racism and welcome all black, white, Hispanic, Asian, and Native American patriots who care about liberty and fiscal responsibility to join us in fighting the government overreach and reckless spending that threatens ALL our futures.”
Cara C on March 2, 2010 at 8:46 PM
M………most
S……….slimy
N……….nasty
B………..bootlicking
C……….communists
PappyD61 on March 2, 2010 at 8:46 PM
LOL, yes that could be the case.
Chip on March 2, 2010 at 8:55 PM
We have a word where I come from for people like Dylan Ratigan; a$$hole.
RWLA on March 2, 2010 at 8:56 PM
First, I didn’t hear what the dip from the Southern Poverty Law Center was claiming prior to Mark coming on…but the Ratman was acting like it was common knowledge that the Tea Parties embrace racism and anti-semitism (both tools of the left) and that people are carrying signs that say they want to kill blacks and Jews. I think he was trying to act like Ogreman…probably hoping for a big raise or either on some serious drugs…maybe both!
Finally, as I was walking past the TV a few minutes later, I heard the tailend of more ranting from him about the Tea Parties, but I didn’t hear what all was said…will search for a video update. What a putz!
tmedlin on March 2, 2010 at 9:01 PM
THE MSM IS ANGRY.
reliapundit on March 2, 2010 at 9:03 PM
I wonder when Ratigan, and the rest of the mentally challenged on that scumbag network will highlight Black Panthers, and Black Mulims for their hatred and racism. They truly hate. Yet not one word. Odd don’t you think?
Jdripper on March 2, 2010 at 9:07 PM
I think Ratigan was sent over the MSNBC to shake things up…
d1carter on March 2, 2010 at 9:08 PM
The only oxygen thief in that room was that MS-NBC ass-hat.
Claypigeon on March 2, 2010 at 9:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFjLtJrSK_A&feature=player_embedded
This youtube above of the fool from the Southern Pverty Law Center is evidently what turned Ratigan into a mish-mash of Chrissy-boy and Ogreman.
This guy is spewing “hate speech” LOL, about the Tea Party and Patriot movements, attacking, in particular Oathkeepers.
tmedlin on March 2, 2010 at 9:19 PM
THIS host is doing a segment on “Anger in America”? ! This was funnier than Roger Ailes confronting Arianna Huffpoop with stuff on HER blog that’s been directed towards HIM when she was bellyaching about Glenn Beck.
Marcus on March 2, 2010 at 9:20 PM
How many Black Panthers have you encountered in your life? When was the last time either of these groups made any news? I can’t remember anything since Holder dropped the investigation into BP polling place antics. Black Muslims are not newsworthy just because they happen to be black and call a loony-bigot “prophet.”
News is not a game of tit-for-tat. TP protesters have captivated the attention of pundits, newsies and newsers. Though somewhat strained, the coverage, bias aside, can be justified.
The Race Card on March 2, 2010 at 9:42 PM
Racist?
Which party choose a presidential candidate based
moretotally on the color of his skinrather thanand not the content of his character?Chip on March 2, 2010 at 7:29 PM
I has a discord.
The Card @49 PM
Yes, but which side
is more likely towill always get a free pass on the issue?Chip 7:58 PM
cableguy615 on March 2, 2010 at 9:49 PM
If you’re saying that Dems voted for Obama because of his race then one could contend that an equal number of Americans voted against him for the same reason. Stupid, huh? Exactly.
Let’s try this:
Ever vote for a black POTUS?
Thought so, racist.
Pretty annoying, huh?
The Race Card on March 2, 2010 at 9:59 PM
Jdripper on March 2, 2010 at 9:07 PM
How many Black Panthers have you encountered in your life? When was the last time either of these groups made any news? I can’t remember anything since Holder dropped the investigation into BP polling place antics. Black Muslims are not newsworthy just because they happen to be black and call a loony-bigot “prophet.”
News is not a game of tit-for-tat. TP protesters have captivated the attention of pundits, newsies and newsers. Though somewhat strained, the coverage, bias aside, can be justified.
The Race Card on March 2, 2010 at 9:42 PM
Race card coverage may be justified, but biased, racist, demagoguery of the sort that MSNBC and the rest of the old dying media are doing in regards to the Tea Party is never justified.
Your observation that the Black Panthers and Black Muslims be given a pass does not reflect well upon you at all.
Jdripper on March 2, 2010 at 10:02 PM
Annoying yes!
Minor point though… it IS true for a great number of Democrats!
sharrukin on March 2, 2010 at 10:03 PM
There is a old saying .Trying to get a Liberal to act and talk rational and to have common sense and be logical is kind of like trying to teach a pig to dance.Usually your not going to be successful and most of the time you will make the pig mad.
thmcbb on March 2, 2010 at 10:08 PM
Make your best case that there should be a story today about BP or BM.
You don’t want news. You want affirmation.
The Race Card on March 2, 2010 at 10:09 PM
But a story about non-existant neo-nazi and KKK Tea partiers makes sense to you?
sharrukin on March 2, 2010 at 10:12 PM
Mark Williams should not only be not allowed on television…
… He should not be allowed around children.
Seven Percent Solution on March 2, 2010 at 10:19 PM
Let’s take the hypothetical extremists out of this story. Do they still exist within the so-termed Tea Party or tea party movement?
No. That’s why I stipulate that Dylan Ratigan is engaged in totally inflammoatory tactics.
The Race Card on March 2, 2010 at 10:19 PM
Some people don’t read thoroughly. You really have to spell it out for some folks.
The Race Card on March 2, 2010 at 10:23 PM
The guy was asking if his guest accepted Nazi’s in the Tea Party so there is nothing hypothetical about it.
If you are asking if there are racists in the Tea Parties and/or Republican party then the answer is obviously yes. There are also I am sure cannibals. I don’t know Jeffrey Dahmer’s party affiliation. If it turns out to be Democratic do we get to call them the Cannibal Party?
If not, then perhaps we should look at the party platform and their conduct rather, than individual members that neither party has any control over.
If we do that it is clear that the Democrats pander to race extensively, and many of their leaders are in fact racist.
sharrukin on March 2, 2010 at 10:31 PM
The New Keith Olberman – caaaaaaaaaaarrrrraaaaaazzyyyy!!!!!
klickink.wordpress.com on March 2, 2010 at 10:36 PM
Not to change the subject, but has anyone noticed that this site is really slow today? It takes forever to load up and to change to another page. Other sites are very fast so I can rule out the puter. As far as this turd goes, he simply refused to let the man talk. What a waste of flesh and blood.
garydt on March 2, 2010 at 10:41 PM
OK, there is no problem with race on the right. There definitely is not one within the tea party movement. That’s totally true.
The Race Card on March 2, 2010 at 10:41 PM
Ironic that he called his guest a waste when as the show’s host he was the one wasting his viewers’ time.
The Race Card on March 2, 2010 at 10:42 PM
jp on March 2, 2010 at 7:20 PM
Watch it again. I think you are not comprehending what he is saying. Or maybe I am not understanding what your beef is?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,587789,00.html
DWB on March 3, 2010 at 12:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC9HnxiV5jQ
OxyCon on March 3, 2010 at 1:33 AM
Was it Rick Sanchez, who asked the a scientist guy “Nine meters in English is what?”
Ahhhh Rick, Nine meters in English directly translates to Nine meters.
Rick Sanchez, the guy that thought Hawaii is the Galapagos Islands?
DSchoen on March 3, 2010 at 5:33 AM
all i can say is …. what an ***hole!
centryt on March 3, 2010 at 9:14 AM
Does anyone even watch this network and consider it “journalism”? It’s a parody of journalism, minus the humor.
stevezilla on March 3, 2010 at 9:17 AM
Would you please give me the name of your supplier.
MarkTheGreat on March 3, 2010 at 9:33 AM
Wow. Hadn’t seen this video. I wonder if the loudmouth host has seen it because he missed the answer to his question three times.
What an asshole.
cannonball on March 3, 2010 at 9:53 AM
This guy repeated it so much, I almost believed it. (cf. Goebbels)
But really, it just seems we’re auditioning a replacement for the departing Olbermann.
MassVictim on March 3, 2010 at 9:56 AM
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