Video: Atheists devise creative new way to alienate people

posted at 8:54 pm on March 2, 2010 by Allahpundit

Via Breitbart, a reminder that wherever there’s an opportunity to antagonize an innocent believer, we’ll be there. I’m giving you this for three reasons. One: In case you’ve ever wondered why, even in a post-9/11 world, atheists rank below Muslims in terms of traits the public dislikes in a politician, wonder no longer. Two: As dumb and distasteful as I find this, I can’t resist the dilemma it presents between acting on principle and doing the politically wise thing. Whenever that same dilemma comes up in a conservative context — look no further than Bunning’s stand tonight, although Rush’s “I hope he fails” comment is another example — I usually opt for the “politically wise” route and am derided for it in the comments. These tools are acting on principle too. Should they bottle it up instead to avoid alienating people, or is principle always the way to go?

Three: Can it be that Hot Air hasn’t had an atheism post in more than a month? What’s happened to this site?


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Is sweeps month still going on?

Why anyone would look to groups of 19-year-old kids for wisdom in a meaningful debate or for models of behavior is anyone’s guess.

MassVictim on March 3, 2010 at 10:50 AM

I don’t believe in Allahpundit exists either. Although I see his work everyday, he won’t come out and show himself. Therefore I don’t believe he exits and he doesn’t exits. Anyone can prove that Allahpundit exists?

flash044 on March 3, 2010 at 10:52 AM

Atheists devise creative new way to alienate people…

…talking in public.

Akzed on March 3, 2010 at 10:52 AM

I have trouble with Atheists proselytizing. Does agitating the religious somehow get them into some sort of Utopian heaven?

Deliberately provoking someone, when you are an atheist, is a stupid self indulgence.

Not backing down from an argument is one thing, going out of your way to antagonize is something else entirely.

drewmesq on March 3, 2010 at 10:52 AM

the atheist creed:

Nothing made everything. Therefore, nothing exists, and is greater than everything.

Akzed on March 3, 2010 at 10:54 AM

The more I think about this, the more it puzzles me. Suppose someone came up to you and said, “I’m an atheist. Would you share some scripture with me?” Or, “I’m an atheist, would you help me get rid of my pornography?”

Either sounds appealing. So why when the two are combined does it bother us? Maybe it’s a good deal after all. Spread the WORD, collect and trash the porn.

(Truth be told, the atheists probably just need copies of the Bible for a course they’re taking, and they don’t want to buy it.)

MassVictim on March 3, 2010 at 10:56 AM

Jesus left me a message and said I should advise Atheists that they have a soul that WILL spend eternity in one of two locations. He said to tell them He would prefer they spend it with Him, but He’s too much of a Gentleman to force them to do what they don’t want to. I’ve read His Book from cover to cover a number of times, and although He does point out that actions and decisions have consequences, He gave Atheists (and everyone) a “will” so they can choose to accept or reject Him. He is going to separate “sheep” from “goats” at a future date, but I can’t find any instructions to set fire to Atheists or anyone else. I CAN tell Atheists this; if you’re serious about looking for Jesus, you’re going to find.

Decision time!

oldleprechaun on March 3, 2010 at 10:58 AM

The only reason believers don’t burn atheists at the stake today is that you can’t get away with it. When you can you will. And you will celebrate when you do.

deewhybee on March 3, 2010 at 12:18 AM

So much hatred, so little intelligence.

Classic atheist.

MarkTheGreat on March 3, 2010 at 10:22 AM

If you’ve studied history you should know that your team does have a track record for this kind of thing.

Annar on March 3, 2010 at 11:00 AM

If you’ve studied history you should know that your team does have a track record for this kind of thing.

Annar on March 3, 2010 at 11:00 AM

Right.

And atheists like Mao and Stalin never harmed anyone.

MassVictim on March 3, 2010 at 11:03 AM

I usually opt for the “politically wise” route and am derided for it in the comments. These tools are acting on principle too.

I’m having a hard time identifying the principle here. If they were looking for principled equivalence, they might have considered handing out Harlequin Romance novels, not Japanese yaoi manga.

Count to 10 on March 3, 2010 at 11:03 AM

Christian – I am so insignificant there must be something greater out there – God.

Atheist – I am so significant and superfantabulous there cannot be anything better than me.

akerralls on March 3, 2010 at 11:03 AM

And atheists like Mao and Stalin never harmed anyone.

MassVictim on March 3, 2010 at 11:03 AM

Is someone really atheist if he thinks he is God?

Count to 10 on March 3, 2010 at 11:05 AM

I do not believe in the existence of a supreme being.

If “Atheists” word is hijacked by these idiots, for sure I’m not one of them. A crash between islamic terrorists and this bunch of homosexual communists is long overdue. Wonder if their porn booklets will be of any use to save their lives.

BTW, Christianity rules!

Rookie on March 3, 2010 at 11:05 AM

If you’ve studied history you should know that your team does have a track record for this kind of thing.

Annar on March 3, 2010 at 11:00 AM

Are you sure?
Burning was, to my knowledge, done to heretics, not heathens like us atheists.
That is, it was the people that made claims about the nature and demands of the deity in question, rather than those who did not believe.

Count to 10 on March 3, 2010 at 11:12 AM

And atheists like Mao and Stalin never harmed anyone.

MassVictim on March 3, 2010 at 11:03 AM

They did their deeds in the cause of Communism as dictated by the “dialectic.” You’d have a hard time finding signs or speeches with a message like ‘Go forth and kill because there is no god.’ On the other hand the religious often invoke the name of their god to help them kill off the enemy. In fact the opposing sides sometimes solicit the aid of the same superstitious entity!

Annar on March 3, 2010 at 11:15 AM

Why do atheists get so enraged and angry over something they don’t believe in to begin with?

StevefromMKE on March 2, 2010 at 10:19 PM

This is what I don’t get. It seems they’re just being imbeciles for the sake of it.

Heralder on March 3, 2010 at 11:17 AM

the atheist creed:

Nothing made everything. Therefore, nothing exists, and is greater than everything.

Akzed on March 3, 2010 at 10:54 AM

Ah, no.
…and I’ve already told you how dumb you look claiming that.

Count to 10 on March 3, 2010 at 11:18 AM

Why do atheists get so enraged and angry over something they don’t believe in to begin with?

StevefromMKE on March 2, 2010 at 10:19 PM

This is what I don’t get. It seems they’re just being imbeciles for the sake of it.

Heralder on March 3, 2010 at 11:17 AM

Its not the belief itself, but the way others preach it as if there were no other possible assumptions.
(For instance, I could have stated that as “the way others preach it as God’s honest truth”. Its kind of embedded in the culture and language.)

Count to 10 on March 3, 2010 at 11:22 AM

Isn’t this like being an evangelical? These atheists are:

1. Uncomfortable with their non-belief and must enlist others to bolster their shaky disbelief or:
2. Are threatened by those who believe or:
3. Are just plain a-holes and need to rip something else down so as to make them think and feel that those actions make their disbelief look and feel better.

I am agnostic, ex of the atheist variety. I never felt the need to belittle people nor did I feel the need to besmirch their religion to make myself feel better. It was an intensely private disbelief and I think if we want people to keep their religious beliefs private, disbeliefs should remain so. Atheists, lead by example.

allstonian on March 3, 2010 at 11:25 AM

And atheists like Mao and Stalin never harmed anyone.

MassVictim on March 3, 2010 at 11:03 AM

They did their deeds in the cause of Communism as dictated by the “dialectic.”

Annar on March 3, 2010 at 11:15 AM

Ah, that’s better. Makes all the difference. Thanks.

MassVictim on March 3, 2010 at 11:26 AM

Atheists, lead by example.

allstonian on March 3, 2010 at 11:25 AM

Those that do don’t make the news.

Count to 10 on March 3, 2010 at 11:34 AM

Its not the belief itself, but the way others preach it as if there were no other possible assumptions.
(For instance, I could have stated that as “the way others preach it as God’s honest truth”. Its kind of embedded in the culture and language.)

Count to 10 on March 3, 2010 at 11:22 AM

I’m an agnostic myself, so I can’t really argue the Christian side very effectively. It seems that you take issue with the totality of religious belief. Are athesists willing to bend, and cede that there are other possible assumptions to what they believe as well? I don’t see that happening.

Heralder on March 3, 2010 at 11:43 AM

Atheists devise creative new way to alienate people

Sure except it’s not new. It’s not even the first time this specific group has done it.

And I don’t see at all how this can be called a principled stand. The Bible has no more graphic depictions of sex or violence than works by Homer. Porn, obviously does have more graphic depictions.

And anyone calling the Bible misogynistic, clearly doesn’t understand it.

They’re in it to shock and offend. It’s just juvenile and stupid.

Esthier on March 3, 2010 at 11:59 AM

Those that do don’t make the news.

Count to 10 on March 3, 2010 at 11:34 AM

Yeah, bad apples make the news. This is true for Christians as well.

Esthier on March 3, 2010 at 12:03 PM

MassVictim on March 3, 2010 at 10:56 AM

Good point actually. Since when are Christians bothered by giving Bibles to people who don’t believe? Many risk death to do so all over the world, and yet these people are just begging for them.

And they’re giving up porn in exchange.

Too bad no Christian organizations on campus expressed this thought. It’s a completely missed opportunity.

Esthier on March 3, 2010 at 12:07 PM

3 points:

1. Go to google yahoo or bing type in “why are athiests so arrogant?”
laugh yer hiney off at the replies.

2. I seemed to me odd that folks who are so against people who push their beliefs on others to waste their time doing the same. Do as I say not as I do et al.

3. In speaking to arrogant athiests and having arguments with them I have learned it seems their narscisism causes them to be g-d in their on eyes so any belief In a higher power only reduces their own selves as g-d in their own eyes. That’s something they can’t allow.

-Wasteland Man.

WastelandMan on March 3, 2010 at 12:53 PM

I was raised in a Christian environment and gave it up as a result of my mother’s zeal but that doesn’t mean I don’t believe. I guess I would call myself a Deist combined with a spirituality I have embraced based on my partial Cherokee heritage. I defy anyone calling themselves an Atheist to explain the universe as we know it. I can’t and I don’t try.
Further, Atheism, to me, equates with amorality which is intrinsically distastful and counterproductive to civility and good order.

LarryG on March 3, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Is someone really atheist if he thinks he is God?

Count to 10 on March 3, 2010 at 11:05 AM

Since atheists hold that there is no higher authority than themselves, you have here a reasonably close statement as to their actual belief.

sharrukin on March 3, 2010 at 1:28 PM

No, no, the “new atheists” aren’t positive. They simply LACK A BELIEF in God, which describes a psychological state, IMO. It’s like me doing an internal check: yep, I ‘lack a belief’ in fairies. Therefore I’m atheistic about fairies, according to the ‘new atheists’.

Since they claim a negative as the foundation of their lives, is it any wonder the ‘new atheists’ often act negatively?

(BTW, ANY American has a right to their belief system, or anti-belief system, so long as it harms no one. But with the behavior displayed above, as AP says, it’s no wonder atheists don’t rank high in popular opinion–and that’s unfortunate for respectful atheists, who are in the majority.)

Grace_is_sufficient on March 3, 2010 at 6:23 AM

Well I do not mean positive in the sense of their outlook. rather that they are making an assertive statement about God which they cannot know to be true.

They like to claim that they are rational people and then proceed to believe in something with absolutely no proof.

This also happens to be what they constantly accuse Christians of.

sharrukin on March 3, 2010 at 1:39 PM

If you’ve studied history you should know that your team does have a track record for this kind of thing.

Annar on March 3, 2010 at 11:00 AM

This comment ignores the history it professes to have mastered and shows a suspension of disbelief as to what religion in general, Christianity in particular has done right. While atrocities have been committed in the name of most if not all religions, our “team” also has a long track record of establishing missions that ultimately became hospitals (how many hospitals are named after a church/saint/Christian icon?), giving more of our own money to the poor and destitute, being a major driving force behind the abolishment of slavery and the acknowledgement of womens’ rights and equality, selflessly giving up material belongings and comfort to help those who cannot help themselves in the form of missionary activity, provided skills (dental/medical/etc.) free of charge for those who cannot afford them in other continents, as well as at home, and the list goes on and on. Get off your high horse and acknowledge that more good has been done in the name of Christianity/religion than bad. Name one positive aspect of society or examples of acts that benefit the greater good that we can attribute to the work of committed atheists.

change is for suckers on March 3, 2010 at 1:45 PM

Ah, no. …and I’ve already told you how dumb you look claiming that. Count to 10 on March 3, 2010 at 11:18 AM

Um, no you haven’t. You’ve said it’s silly, but I await your argument.

A does not exist, but A made B which does exist. Therefor A exists, and is greater than B.

Just demonstrate the illogic for once.

Akzed on March 3, 2010 at 2:59 PM

now if I can pare this with a Gideon trying to get rid of extra bibles and I can gets me some sweet sweet gay porn!

Zekecorlain on March 3, 2010 at 4:30 PM

@Akzed your argument only works if causation equals sentience which it does not. nor have you disproved that the events leading to our sentience require outside force. You want it to, therefore you believe it does but the universe is much more interesting than that.

Zekecorlain on March 3, 2010 at 4:33 PM

Count to 10 on March 3, 2010 at 11:05 AM

Yup.

Ingenue on March 3, 2010 at 5:18 PM

God is laughing at these morons right now lol

Humphrey007 on March 3, 2010 at 5:35 PM

God is laughing at these morons right now lol

Humphrey007 on March 3, 2010 at 5:35 PM

I don’t think so.

daesleeper on March 3, 2010 at 11:13 PM

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