Paul decries challenge in “my own primary”

posted at 11:15 am on February 28, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Scott Brown likely won his special election to the US Senate through his retort to David Gergen in the final debate that he was running for “the people’s seat” in Massachusetts, not “Ted Kennedy’s seat,” when Gergen challenged his opposition to ObamaCare.  Conservatives cheered the populist message Brown sent to Democrats in one of the most liberal states in the country.  What will they make of Ron Paul’s statement about “attack dogs” coming after him in “my own primary”?

Rep. Ron Paul, the libertarian-oriented Republican whose 2008 presidential run provided kindling for the Tea Party movement, suddenly finds himself dealing with the blowback: a handful of Tea Party-inspired candidates are seeking to dislodge him in Tuesday’s Texas Republican primary. …

In a January email alert titled “They’ve Turned Their Attack Dogs Loose On Me!”, Paul warns that both parties are “doing everything they can to make sure I am defeated.”

“These candidates include three Republicans in my own primary on March 2,” he wrote, “and they will stop at nothing to tear down and destroy all we have worked for.”

It’s not your primary, Rep. Paul.  It’s the Texas Republican Primary, and it belongs to the voters who use it to hold their elected officials accountable.  That smacks of the same arrogance that led Democrats to reserve one of their Senate seats for the Kennedys or their approved, hand-picked successor in Massachusetts.

Why might TX-14 Republicans want to replace Paul?  They’ve gotten a little tired of the show:

“Where are you Congressman Paul?” reads the website of Tim Graney, a small business owner who is one of the Republicans running against Paul. At a debate last week, John Gay, another Paul challenger, took a shot at the congressman’s national political organization, Campaign for Liberty: “I applaud Dr. Paul for what he’s done and I want him to retire and do the things that he likes to do and run the foundations that he’s started.” …

Gerald Wall, a chemical worker who is also challenging Paul, echoed their criticisms.

“The problem with Ron Paul is that he doesn’t spend any time representing his people,” he said. “Everyone knows that if we elect him to Congress he will spend one month in Congress and 18 months running for president.”

In two interviews I conducted with Graney, the challenger says the issue goes beyond being an “absentee landlord,” although that’s certainly part of it.  Paul is simply not effective in Congress, Graney argues, because of his predilection for grandstanding to an absurd degree while participating heavily in pork barrel politics.  Graney also thinks that Paul’s foreign-policy positions are extremist.

Even if one is inclined to support Paul, the primary process is a healthy way to ensure that incumbent politicians are listening to and serving their constituents.  Claiming ownership of a seat as an entitlement is the first sign that a constituency needs to find someone new to send to Washington. (via William Amos)


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Ron Paul has ensured his own defeat in the primary.

The republican primary voters won’t take kindly to this nonsense, even the 31+ Billion in pork he’s slopped up won’t buy enough votes this time.

Rebar on February 28, 2010 at 11:19 AM

Open the Stormfront doors!!

thomasaur on February 28, 2010 at 11:20 AM

Ed, yo9u’re going to be really bummed out Tuesday night, aren’t you?

JohnGalt23 on February 28, 2010 at 11:20 AM

In a January email alert titled “They’ve Turned Their Attack Dogs Loose On Me!”, Paul warns that both parties are “doing everything they can to make sure I am defeated.”

In the old days, this would translate to a call for a “money bomb”. Maybe that’s all this is.

unclesmrgol on February 28, 2010 at 11:20 AM

Sounds like he’s toast

Punditpawn on February 28, 2010 at 11:20 AM

Ron Paul has ensured his own defeat in the primary.

Rebar on February 28, 2010 at 11:19 AM

Do you like to gamble, Rebar?

Gamble money, on the outcome of political contests?

JohnGalt23 on February 28, 2010 at 11:21 AM

I hope he loses his seat. I really, really do.

Rae on February 28, 2010 at 11:21 AM

“International bankers, money changers and neo-cons” no doubt. Ron Paul and his “Paulistians” are a peice of work. Where’s Bruno when we need him?

RobCon on February 28, 2010 at 11:22 AM

Oh great, the crazies just heard the alarm bell sound…bar the doors.

Bishop on February 28, 2010 at 11:22 AM

Even if one is inclined to support Paul, the primary process is a healthy way to ensure that incumbent politicians are listening to and serving their constituents.

Primaries are also an incredible waste of cash and resources. Paul *will not* be defeated. He has an unimaginable amount of resources available, and the same people that think Paul can be defeated are the same folks who tried, time and time again, to defeat John Murtha. It’s a waste of time and money, and you tea party nutjobs should learn to use your resources accordingly.

On second thought, keep wasting your time on people you can’t beat…

NoStoppingUs on February 28, 2010 at 11:24 AM

Not only ron getting the boot, but Texans need to take a look at not electing medina also. To me medina is a ron with a skirt!
L

letget on February 28, 2010 at 11:26 AM

Where’s Spathi?

Disturb the Universe on February 28, 2010 at 11:26 AM

Ed, yo9u’re going to be really bummed out Tuesday night, aren’t you?

JohnGalt23 on February 28, 2010 at 11:20 AM

Oh, probably.

BTW, don’t put JohnGalt in the same category as the crazies. We’re going to continue to disagree on Paul, but he’s sharp.

Ed Morrissey on February 28, 2010 at 11:28 AM

Send in the Trolls.
There ought to be Trolls.
Too late…they’re here.

Ron Paul…my primary.
His strawberries, too.

kingsjester on February 28, 2010 at 11:29 AM

Do you like to gamble, Rebar?

Gamble money, on the outcome of political contests?

JohnGalt23 on February 28, 2010 at 11:21 AM

Why, do you think Paul is “entitled” to that seat, that he should be “above” petty things like facing primary opponents, he shouldn’t have to answer for his ridiculous rantings and his 31+ Billion in porkbarreling while banging the fiscal conservative drum?

The anti-incumbent winds are blowing, Paul is the very definition of “career politician”. It’s past time for him to go, the good republican voters of TX-14 will step up and do the right thing.

Rebar on February 28, 2010 at 11:29 AM

Just goes to prove that they all think they own their seats in Washington and should keep them until they are mummified.

Kissmygrits on February 28, 2010 at 11:29 AM

Ed Morrissey on February 28, 2010 at 11:28 AM

You’re very kind Ed. Thank you, and I assure you the feeling is mutual.

JohnGalt23 on February 28, 2010 at 11:30 AM

You know, the more I learn about Ron Paul the less I like. Career politician, DC insider, takes a lot of pork. Add that to his crazy, and yes they are insane, ideas about national security and foreign diplomacy. What a dangerous cocktail of illusory independence and hideous bondage to the big government he rails against. So many of my… well I was going to say young, but damn the big 3-0 is right around the corner… so many of my less young every day friends are enthralled by Paul’s anti-big govt screeds. I think it allows them to dip their waters in the liberty I’ve been extolling (and their hearts yearn for) while holding onto their leftist hatred of the military and America itself. Too bad it’s all a sham on Paul’s part.

chicagojedi on February 28, 2010 at 11:34 AM

This is just silly. Every politician sends out fundraising pitches which are couched in apocalyptic terms about how all his enemies are targetting him, and therefore he urgently needs his supporters to contribute money to his campaign. The reality (as in Ron Paul’s case) may often be that the politician is a lock for re-election, but admitting that fact obviously doesn’t motivate contributors to open their wallets.

If Ron Paul was seriously in trouble for re-election, he has a vast nationwide donor list available which generated tens of millions of dollars for his 2007-2008 Presidential run. He could milk it for as much money as he needed to assure a victory. This email sounds like more of a standard “keep in touch with supporters” message with a standard request for contributions, using the very weak reed of “primary challengers” as a narrative hook.

dpwiener on February 28, 2010 at 11:37 AM

The political pendulum is swinging back to the right. With that being said since he’s the incumbent and is far right he’ll probably be retained. I could be wrong and hope I am and they put somebody a bit more level headed, and not so into conspriacy theories, in his place.

boomer on February 28, 2010 at 11:38 AM

I wish every member of Congress had to face a robust primary and even more robust general election each and every time.

myrenovations on February 28, 2010 at 11:39 AM

Primaries are also an incredible waste of cash and resources. Paul *will not* be defeated. He has an unimaginable amount of resources available, and the same people that think Paul can be defeated are the same folks who tried, time and time again, to defeat John Murtha. It’s a waste of time and money, and you tea party nutjobs should learn to use your resources accordingly.

On second thought, keep wasting your time on people you can’t beat…

NoStoppingUs on February 28, 2010 at 11:24 AM

Heck, elections themselves are a waste of cash and resources. How dare people have an alternative candidate and alternative ideas to consider.

You are sounding pretty damn fascist.

rbj on February 28, 2010 at 11:41 AM

PRIMARY ALL OF THEM…!!!

PappyD61 on February 28, 2010 at 11:41 AM

Ron Paul: If you don’t vote for me, the Jooz on the Trilateral Commission have won!

Lehosh on February 28, 2010 at 11:42 AM

Adherents (yes, I chose that word purposefully) to Paul often ‘argue’ in terms of principles. What say ye about entitlement mentalities and its principles?

anuts on February 28, 2010 at 11:42 AM

BTW, don’t put JohnGalt in the same category as the crazies. We’re going to continue to disagree on Paul, but he’s sharp.

Ed Morrissey on February 28, 2010 at 11:28 AM

And I’m going to continue to disagree with JG23 on Paul, as well…just don’t accuse me of being “ignorant” or part of the “unwashed masses,” and we’ll do fine. I can handle impersonal differences-of-opinion.

gryphon202 on February 28, 2010 at 11:47 AM

He could milk it for as much money as he needed to assure a victory.

dpwiener on February 28, 2010 at 11:37 AM

Sometimes, a candidate cannot buy an election no matter how much cash they can squeeze out of special interests.

And what does that say about Paul, that he has to drown out his primary opponents in special interest money, instead of in a contest of ideas?

Rebar on February 28, 2010 at 11:48 AM

We’ve had more than 50+ years of welfare state entitlements and the “mentality”, for good or bad, that such legislation engenders.

You’re not going to change both of those overnight. It will take another 50 years or so. Incrementalism.

Paul and his supporters seem to think we can ratchet all of this down overnight. We can’t.

And we can apply that same observation to America’s role in the world. Gradual drawdown not retreat.

But if you think the US government since Lincoln is evil and malevolent, such thinking is viewed suspiciously if not in a hostile manner.

But there I go with that “neocon” thinking.

SteveMG on February 28, 2010 at 11:48 AM

On second thought, keep wasting your time on people you can’t beat…

NoStoppingUs on February 28, 2010 at 11:24 AM

I’ve got a hint for you, defeatist loser: It’s that attitude that makes primaries meaningless! If we are going to take back our country, expanding primary voters beyond the usual crop of party faithfules is an ABSOLUTE MUST.

gryphon202 on February 28, 2010 at 11:48 AM

All Ron Paul needs is a parrot on his shoulder.

To go with his 18th century views of our national security through his Age Of Sail Isolationism.

Shiver me timbers! is this maroon suckers anough Texans to hold power for his Gold Standard of Stupidity.

profitsbeard on February 28, 2010 at 11:49 AM

I can’t stand ‘tard Paul but the premise of this article is beyond stupid. “My own primary” obviously refers to the primary in which Ron Paul is running and it takes a particularly uncharitable knee-jerk reaction to try to spin it as an example of republican aristocracy.

That said, kick the bum out.

Darth Executor on February 28, 2010 at 11:50 AM

Another perfect example of why term limits for Senate and Congressional seats are sorely needed.

Hellrider on February 28, 2010 at 11:51 AM

I’ve never heard a Ron Paul ad, but this primary cycle can’t seem to get away from them. At least on radio. I don’t live in the Wharton/Bay City area, but Houston which is an hour & a half from there. I would think advertising on our radio stations would be much more expensive than the ones centered down there, but the big talk radio shows are on our stations.

lizzie beth on February 28, 2010 at 11:52 AM

They’ve Turned Their Attack Dogs Loose On Me!

It’s a conspiracy. If you rearrange the letters in Ron Paul you get “Run Alpo.”

Emperor Norton on February 28, 2010 at 11:52 AM

Ron Paul: Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuper genius!!!!

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on February 28, 2010 at 11:53 AM

‘my own primary’ isn’t offensive. It’s the primary he’s in. It’s not like he called it the Ron Paul seat.

Spirit of 1776 on February 28, 2010 at 11:54 AM

Rep. Ron Paul, the libertarian-oriented Republican whose 2008 presidential run provided kindling for the Tea Party movement….

Did anyone else catch that almost too casual smear by the author? Where do they come up with this stuff? I’m guessing it’s engineering a reason for their own opinions about the Tea Parties and their motivation.

JeffWeimer on February 28, 2010 at 11:54 AM

Ron Paul and all who think like Ron Paul are a permanent 10 yard penalty to conservatives.

BL@KBIRD on February 28, 2010 at 11:55 AM

Another perfect example of why term limits for Senate and Congressional seats are sorely needed.

Hellrider on February 28, 2010 at 11:51 AM

It’s ironic, that 20 odd years ago Ron Paul ran on the issue of… term limits.

Yet another hypocrisy in a mountain of hypocritical nonsense spewn from the mouth of Paul.

Rebar on February 28, 2010 at 11:56 AM

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on February 28, 2010 at 11:53 AM

*snicker

ladyingray on February 28, 2010 at 11:57 AM

Ron Paul has just been in the same office so long that he’s taken ownership of it. It’s a normal human response to a very common experience and the “Revolutionary” Texas CongressCritter is no different than any other revolutionary in human history. In the most productive and creative years of his life, he’s fought and worked and struggled and succeeded and failed and gone through all of the other trauma that welds us all to the product of our careers. He’s personalized it and it’s his now! By right!
Over and above any other ideas or causes he may embody or represent, he needs to go. His time has come and gone, like all the rest of us inevitably do.

Lew on February 28, 2010 at 11:57 AM

It’s a waste of time and money, and you tea party nutjobs should learn to use your resources accordingly.

On second thought, keep wasting your time on people you can’t beat…

NoStoppingUs on February 28, 2010 at 11:24 AM

See, a Paulnut makes my point for me. The author of the politco piece doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

JeffWeimer on February 28, 2010 at 11:58 AM

Another perfect example of why term limits for Senate and Congressional seats are sorely needed.

Hellrider on February 28, 2010 at 11:51 AM

There already exists a natural mechanism for term limits. We call them elections. It just isn’t used often enough.

anuts on February 28, 2010 at 11:59 AM

Rebar on February 28, 2010 at 11:29 AM

Why, do you think Paul is “entitled” to that seat

I’ve never heard RP say he (or anyone else, for that matter) is entitled to anything, short of the rights delineated in the US Constitution. But likewise, his commitment to constituent service, combined with rock-ribbed conservative principles, do allow me to say he has earned his seat, much more so than most of the squishy soft “conservatives” that tea partiers have not chosen to challenge.

Paul is the very definition of “career politician”

Let’s see now… served in Congress from ’78-’84. Went back to medical practice for 12 years. Then went back to Congress in ’96. I didn’t see Duncan Hunter, John McCain, Mike Huckabee, or Rudy Giuliani put as much time in the private sector as the good Dr. Paul.

To paraphrase The Bard, career politicians should be made of sterner stuff. To directly quote my drinking buddy Big B… “Settle Down!”

… the good republican voters of TX-14 will step up and do the right thing.

I agree. The good Republican voters in Tx-14 will do the right thing, and vote to send the strictest Constitutional conservative back to Congress yeat agian.

But I sense you disagree with my analysis. So I ask you once again… Do you like to gamble, Rebar? Gamble money, on the outcome of political contests.

JohnGalt23 on February 28, 2010 at 11:59 AM

Ron Paul, beloved of David Duke and Storm Front, who’s never met an earmark he didn’t like, and who’s a fake proponent of the Constitution, deserves to have his seat taken away, but probably won’t because he has too many GOP opponents.
The vote will split and he’ll get re-nominated and re-elected.

Jenfidel on February 28, 2010 at 12:05 PM

There already exists a natural mechanism for term limits. We call them elections. It just isn’t used often enough.

anuts on February 28, 2010 at 11:59 AM

I mostly think this too, but gerrymandering, a corrupt media, general corruption, etc, sometimes make an incumbent nearly impossible to get voted out. Also, we have term limits for Pres., and some other offices, so I’m not so sure anymore.

JiangxiDad on February 28, 2010 at 12:07 PM

A stupid phrase in a fund-raising letter? Any polling data to suggest Paul is in trouble? This thread is a lame attempt to start a Paulian flame war over nothing.

entropent on February 28, 2010 at 12:09 PM

“These candidates include three Republicans in my own primary on March 2,” he wrote, “and they will stop at nothing to tear down and destroy all we have worked for.”

They should have decided amongst themselves on one candidate to challenge him – it would have helped knock Paul off.

Vashta.Nerada on February 28, 2010 at 12:10 PM

Not only ron getting the boot, but Texans need to take a look at not electing medina also. To me medina is a ron with a skirt!
L

letget on February 28, 2010 at 11:26 AM

I think her revelation a couple of weeks ago that she was of the same cloth as Paul not only ended her campaign, it also prevented a runoff in the GOP governor’s race. I bet Perry will get over 50% now.

Vashta.Nerada on February 28, 2010 at 12:15 PM

This thread is a lame attempt to start a Paulian flame war over nothing.

entropent on February 28, 2010 at 12:09 PM

You say that like its a bad thing. :)

JohnGalt23 on February 28, 2010 at 12:15 PM

Paul is not going to lose when he won his last primary with 71%, and he has a 84% job approval in his district.

Spathi on February 28, 2010 at 12:19 PM

I mostly think this too, but gerrymandering, a corrupt media, general corruption, etc,…

JiangxiDad on February 28, 2010 at 12:07 PM

I don’t believe those issues are an argument for term limits. Not in the sense that term limits are designed to specifically stop the above.

anuts on February 28, 2010 at 12:25 PM

Ron Paul 2010: Because My Conspiracy Theories Are Real!

Ron Paul 2010: Will Tilt At Windmills for $31 Billion!

Ron Paul 2010: With Murtha Dead, Who Will Play Grandpa Simpson?

Lehosh on February 28, 2010 at 12:27 PM

Paul is just looking out for all the shrimpers who will die if he is not elected again and bringing home all the unconstitutional pork.

RobertInLexington on February 28, 2010 at 12:27 PM

Don’t mess with Texas!!:)

ohiobabe on February 28, 2010 at 12:31 PM

PRIMARY ALL OF THEM…!!!

PappyD61 on February 28, 2010 at 11:41 AM

YES LETS MAKE EVERY INCUMBENT REPUBLICAN WASTE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLAR$ THEY COULD USE 2 DEFEAT DEMONC-RAT OPPONENTS! YOU ARE SO SMART!!11!! YOU SHOULD RUN 4 CONGRESS OR SUMTHIN!1!!1

/s

NoStoppingUs on February 28, 2010 at 12:36 PM

As noted above Ron Paul ran for congress twenty years ago on the “revolutionary” platform of term limits. I guess this makes Paul a founding member of the new American version of the “Institutional Revolutionary Party.”

BillyGoatGruff on February 28, 2010 at 12:36 PM

I don’t believe those issues are an argument for term limits. Not in the sense that term limits are designed to specifically stop the above.

anuts on February 28, 2010 at 12:25 PM

I agree. Two wrongs don’t make a right, executive term limits being the first wrong. Should the legislative branch enact term limits, I am confident we would see more corruption as members would use their positions in government to secure well-compensated post-political positions in return for legislative favors.

Spirit of 1776 on February 28, 2010 at 12:40 PM

Like him or loathe him, the fact is he’s gonna win.

And who’s to say his challenger would do any better? Remember how fast Scott Brown, after another David-vs-Goliath election, promptly betrayed the conservative cause within less than a month?

Dark-Star on February 28, 2010 at 12:41 PM

Dark-Star on February 28, 2010 at 12:41 PM

But we knew that going in. He never declared himself to be conservative – and that was reported here on Hotair. We put ourselves behind him because he was close enough for Massachusetts work.

JeffWeimer on February 28, 2010 at 12:47 PM

Ron Paul violated the #1 rule for being the crazy uncle nobody talks about.

He ran for President and got a lot of people talking about him – shame not everybody (by a long shot) aren’t liking the .. well, the crazy uncle that they’re finding.

It’s quite possible for a crazy uncle type to stay in D.C. until they die. Murtha did it, but he was nowhere near as crazy.

Mew

acat on February 28, 2010 at 12:52 PM

Not only ron getting the boot, but Texans need to take a look at not electing medina also. To me medina is a ron with a skirt!
L

letget on February 28, 2010 at 11:26 AM

Not much to add, that just needed to be repeated.

Oh, and Ron Paul is the poster child for term limits. Vote this idiot out and vote him out NOW!

There should be some sort of test of sanity before someone can run for office, it would stop nut jobs like “Dr Paul” before they get started.

gary4205 on February 28, 2010 at 12:52 PM

Like him or loathe him, the fact is he’s gonna win.

Dark-Star on February 28, 2010 at 12:41 PM

I don’t agree. Nobody is safe. I personally love the cleansing. Besides all elected representatives must always fear their constituents.

He is a conspiracy theorist at best. Please refer to his lunacy here

Texas can do better.

antisocial on February 28, 2010 at 12:55 PM

JeffWeimer on February 28, 2010 at 11:54 AM

Where do they come up with this stuff? Ron Paul supporters STARTED the Tea Party movement in 2007. It was only once it became popular that the republican party tried to co-opt it and Fox News personalities like Glenn Beck attempted to make it their own. The Tea Party movement isn’t a conservative reaction to Obama, like you probably think it is, its a libertarian reaction to the giant government of Bush and Obama.

thphilli on February 28, 2010 at 1:00 PM

the challengers don’t have enough money to win…yet. Though decent chance Graney places well and can force a run-off. At that point we need to pour on the support.

Paul can be beaten on a number of different angles. That mentioned above being half of it, the other half is informing how insane he is and embarrassement to the district.

Just need the funds to run the ads and campaign to overcome the name recognition.

jp on February 28, 2010 at 1:02 PM

thphilli on February 28, 2010 at 1:00 PM

thats an absolute lie, Rick Santelli started the modern Tea Parties. Paul’s pyschopaths just had an anti-war rally, not anti-tax, etc in 2007 ONCE, in which he protested the IRaq war like an ignorant lefty.

the Tea Party movement are not even close to being Isolationist nutters.

jp on February 28, 2010 at 1:03 PM

Chris Peden had less than 100k in funds, Paul refused to debate him also, and he still got 30% of primary vote in 2008.

something similar will happen this time, if they can keep him under 50% with hardly any funding and force a runoff. Then you can expect ALOT of money to flow in to take the Paultard down in run-off election

jp on February 28, 2010 at 1:08 PM

simply not effective in Congress, Graney argues, because of his predilection for grandstanding to an absurd degree while participating heavily in pork barrel politics.

Which, simply put, means ineffective blow hard.

jeanie on February 28, 2010 at 1:11 PM

Graney also thinks that Paul’s foreign-policy positions are extremist

This is what it really comes down to with Mr. Graney, and almost every other anti-Paul conservative. If Ron Paul were only for the unconstitutional “wars” (more like peace-keeping social work) in Iraq and Afghanistan (Paul actually voted yes for the initial Afghanistan invasion, if I’m not mistaken), then conservatives wouldn’t have much of a problem with him at all. Unconstitutional and insanely stupid and unproductive democracy-building in the Arab world is more important for today’s conservatives than actual constitutionality.

To further illustrate my point, one has to look no further than Joe Lieberman. Despite the fact that Lieberman is a liberal extremist, most conservatives have more respect for him than they do Ron Paul, who, despite his faults, adheres much more closely to the Constitution than any other Republican member of Congress, least of all the liberal independent Lieberman. Why? The war. It’s all about this bloody, treasure-wasting and misguided “War on Terror,” which far from making us more safe, has actually had the opposite effect.

I’m not the biggest fan of Ron Paul. In fact, I’m not much of a fan at all (I’m more neutral than anything). But I do appreciate the fact that he is seemingly the only member of Congress who has made any effort throughout his entire career to follow this country’s Constitution. Probably won’t get that from any of these potential tea party challengers.

2Brave2Bscared on February 28, 2010 at 1:13 PM

This nutbag Paul can’t be defeated quickly enough.

Midas on February 28, 2010 at 1:14 PM

I’ve never heard RP say he (or anyone else, for that matter) is entitled to anything…

“These candidates include three Republicans in my own primary

sound to me like he considers the seat his by dint of his self-proclamed awesomness.

Let’s see now…

20+ years in office, and you’re claiming he’s not a career polition? Really?

I agree. The good Republican voters in Tx-14 will do the right thing, and vote to send the strictest Constitutional conservative back to Congress yeat agian.

Ron Paul is not a conservative, a constitutionalist, nor a libertarian. And judging from his enthusiasm for tearing down the party at every opportunity, he’s a RINO on top of those.

If he is reelected, it will be because of everything the Tea Party and true conservatives are fighting against – porkbarrel politics, lining the pockets of special interests in return for campaign favors instead of open and honest debate on the issues.

But I sense you disagree with my analysis. So I ask you once again… Do you like to gamble, Rebar? Gamble money, on the outcome of political contests.

JohnGalt23 on February 28, 2010 at 11:59 AM

I already put my money where my mouth is – I sent $20 to
Tim Graney
. Nor would I send my personal information to some wierdo Ron Paul cultist.

I have to disagree with Ed on this point – anyone who is a member of the Ronbot club lacks the intelligence and critical thinking skills necessary to be taken seriously.

Rebar on February 28, 2010 at 1:16 PM

Come on, Ed. Ron Paul has lots of problems with his nutty ideas about foreign policy and naitonal defense, but his use of the term “My own primary” is no more a claim to ownership than someone who says, “my boss” is claiming to own the boss – or, to make it a better analogy, “My own boss has never said …”.

“My”, or even “my own”, does not always indicate a claim of ownership. There’s more than enough to rip Paul about, but this is not it.

Now, when The Precedent said “My lawn” in reference to the White House lawn, that WAS an attempt to claim some personal ownership of the White House, not because of the phrase, itself, but because of our tradition – no President has ever referred to the White House as “my house”, unless in jest trying to claim some amount of ownership for it.

neurosculptor on February 28, 2010 at 1:16 PM

It’s about time we started dismantling the personality cult of the right. How are Paulnuts any different than Obamunists? They agree on several key issues (weak national defense, Isolationism will create peace, Jews are bad) and Paul is worse in some respects in filling his suckers with false hope about how ending the fed or returning to the gold standard will save the economy (maybe 30 years ago, too late kids) so Paul’s only contribution to the right and the GOP in particular is to have given the election to Obama and link the anti-American left up with the supposed patriot right.

Portrait of a Paulnut – One of the “friends” on my FB page I use to promote my blog just started complaining about how soldiers are killing themselves at higher rates than ever. Her source: ANSWER. Good work Dr. Paul, the Libertarian/Communist alliance is quite a legacy.

Rob Taylor on February 28, 2010 at 1:18 PM

Ron Paul is not a conservative, a constitutionalist, nor a libertarian.

Do you think anybody in this current Congress is any of those things? I’m asking seriously.

2Brave2Bscared on February 28, 2010 at 1:20 PM

In a January email alert titled “They’ve Turned Their Attack Dogs Loose On Me!”, Paul warns that both parties are “doing everything they can to make sure I am defeated.”

Finally both parties are doing something right.

RightOFLeft on February 28, 2010 at 1:20 PM

I think [Medina's] revelation a couple of weeks ago that she was of the same cloth as Paul not only ended her campaign, it also prevented a runoff in the GOP governor’s race. I bet Perry will get over 50% now.

Vashta.Nerada on February 28, 2010 at 12:15 PM

I haven’t seen any polls so I just hope you’re right. She’s still pretty popular in some areas of West Texas.

Eren on February 28, 2010 at 1:20 PM

Paul may have some good ideas but he is mostly ineffective in Congress. Me thinks his district needs real representation.

docdave on February 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM

Let’s just take a look at RP congressional district which consists of Galveston, Texas City, Freeport, Port Lavaca and Victoria as its population and employment centers. What kind of folks do we find here and who do they work for. One word UNION and they work for Dow Chemical, Invista, Formosa, BP, BASF and Alcoa. Oh sure most of the construction workers are non-union but the guys with the $100K+ annual income are pretty much union members.

Freeport TX would be a tiny shrimping village if it were not for WWII, military/industrial Dow Chemical building a huge magnesium extraction from seawater complex (for the government) there. then there were the pre-WWII refineries in Texas City and the downstream petrochemical plants, ALL HEAVILY UNIONIZED. All of these core industries came (or were expanded drastically) and populated the area for doing what RP is against! Without RP’s bringing home the UNCONSTITUTIONAL bacon that he rails against, he would never have been re-elected the first time.

Kermit on February 28, 2010 at 1:31 PM

Oh Point Comfort is where the large ALCOA plant is located. It used to also be located in Ingleside, TX but that site is long gone.

Kermit on February 28, 2010 at 1:33 PM

YES LETS MAKE EVERY INCUMBENT REPUBLICAN WASTE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLAR$ THEY COULD USE 2 DEFEAT DEMONC-RAT OPPONENTS! YOU ARE SO SMART!!11!! YOU SHOULD RUN 4 CONGRESS OR SUMTHIN!1!!1
/s
NoStoppingUs on February 28, 2010 at 12:36 PM

Do you expect people to hear your post better when you do that?

De-caf. That’s all I’m sayin’.

kingsjester on February 28, 2010 at 1:33 PM

Ron Paul 2010: Because My Conspiracy Theories Are Real!

Ron Paul 2010: Will Tilt At Windmills for $31 Billion!

Ron Paul 2010: With Murtha Dead, Who Will Play Grandpa Simpson?

Lehosh on February 28, 2010 at 12:27 PM

Fell right off the chair laughing. More,please!

katy the mean old lady on February 28, 2010 at 1:35 PM

Paul may have some good ideas but he is mostly ineffective in Congress. Me thinks his district needs real representation.

docdave on February 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM

And why is that? He’s only one man. Really, what do you expect him to do?

What has Jim DeMint done? Or McConnell? Or any of these other so-called conservative Republicans in Congress? They had a majority AND a Republican president for six whole years and all we saw during that time was rampant growth of government.

2Brave2Bscared on February 28, 2010 at 1:36 PM

It’s the JOOOOS !

borntoraisehogs on February 28, 2010 at 1:43 PM

Ron Paul is not a conservative, a constitutionalist, nor a libertarian.
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Do you think anybody in this current Congress is any of those things? I’m asking seriously.

2Brave2Bscared on February 28, 2010 at 1:20 PM
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This is tangential to the discussion.

That said, I think there are many people in congress who are more likely to follow the constitution, more conservative, and more libertarian than Ron Paul.

Mew

acat on February 28, 2010 at 1:43 PM

It’s the JOOOOS JOBS !

borntoraisehogs on February 28, 2010 at 1:43 PM
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FIFY

HTH

HAND

Mew

acat on February 28, 2010 at 1:44 PM

This is tangential to the discussion.

That said, I think there are many people in congress who are more likely to follow the constitution, more conservative, and more libertarian than Ron Paul.

Mew

acat on February 28, 2010 at 1:43 PM

Names?

2Brave2Bscared on February 28, 2010 at 1:45 PM

Rebar on February 28, 2010 at 1:16 PM

“These candidates include three Republicans in my own primary”

sound to me like he considers the seat his by dint of his self-proclamed awesomness.

Really? Sounds to me like a typical fundraising letter. Maybe after you get a little more experience in such matters, you’ll be able to tell the difference,

As far as his “self-proclaimed awesomeness”, I only wish he was less humble than he is. Many is the time I’ve heard him mention the shortfalls of the messenger, but the soundness of the message. Much like “career politician”, “self-proclaimed awsomeness” should be made of sterner stuff.

20+ years in office, and you’re claiming he’s not a career polition? Really?

So, 20 years now constitutes a career? You’re ready for a job in civil service (if you’re not already there).

For most of us, 20 years constitutes half a career, much like Dr. Paul’s 40 year career in medicine. Unlike Johnnie Mac, Duncan Hunter, Lamar Alexander, or a host of other lifetime government employees.

Of course, Dick Cheney took all of 8 years off to run Haliburton, before heading back to the public payroll. Tell me, does that qualify as “career politician”?

Ron Paul is not a conservative, a constitutionalist, nor a libertarian.

CPAC, the Constitution Party, and CATO all disagree with you. But then again, perhaps (snicker)… you are (chortle)… the ultimate definer (giggle)… of all things constitutionalist, libertarian, and…. (BWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA)… sorry, I just couldn’t say it with a straight face.

And judging from his enthusiasm for tearing down the party at every opportunity, he’s a RINO on top of those.

You mean like when they were spending money like drunken Democrats? Or when they were instituting the biggest entitlement program since LBJ? Or when they were pis**ng away Congressional majorities over an unpopular and ill-conceived war in Iraq?

Yeah, a GOPer trying to save the Republican party from itself. Shameful…

/sarc (as if it was necessary)

If he is reelected, it will be because of everything the Tea Party and true conservatives are fighting against – porkbarrel politics, lining the pockets of special interests in return for campaign favors instead of open and honest debate on the issues.

And here come the excuses, from the George Bush Amen corner.

I only wish I could be shocked.

I already put my money where my mouth is – I sent $20 to
Tim Graney. Nor would I send my personal information to some wierdo Ron Paul cultist.

What’s that I smell??? Smells like fish. Fishy fishy.

I’ll tell you what. If anyone else wins, I’ll donate $100 to them. If Dr. Paul wins, you donate $100 to his campaign. And the loser sends confirmation to HotAir.

Subject to HotAir agreeing to act as referee, of course.

A chance for you to really put your money where your mouth is. Are you up for it?

JohnGalt23 on February 28, 2010 at 1:51 PM

I hope and pray that Ron Paul loses.

Grandpa Simpson needs to go back to his rest home.

Conservative Samizdat on February 28, 2010 at 2:00 PM

Ron Paul never misses an opportunity to blame America first. I’ve never forgotten his exposed racist newsletters. His isolationist foreign policies that consist of doing nothing and accepting blame on behalf of America for all that is wrong in the world.

Alex Jones, trooferiness, kookiness, out of touch with reality, grandstanding, railing against “evil joos” in virtually every speech. Birds of a feather…

Libertarians have some good ideas, to be sure. I’ve just never understood why the kooks and nuts always rise to the top to represent the party. It’s a self-defeating prophecy that continues to fulfill itself over and over again.

BruthaMan on February 28, 2010 at 2:14 PM

JohnGalt23 on February 28, 2010 at 1:51 PM

You think your snide comments and personal attacks constitute a response to my statements. They do not.

The facts speak for themselves:
* 11 terms, 20+ years in the House = career politician.
* 31+ Billion in pork, adding in baseline budgeting and interest on the debt, I’d estimate Paul has grown government by 100 billion dollars.
* In that 20+ years, zero done to reduce the size of government, not one law passed to bring the size or scope of government down.

All the snark and personal attacks cannot change those facts, which should and hopefully will, convince the voters of his district to elected someone more honest and conservative then the hypocrite liar known and Ron Paul.

Hey Ed, still think “he’s sharp”? Judging from this thread at least, he’s about as sharp as a bowling ball.

Rebar on February 28, 2010 at 2:20 PM

Rep. Ron Paul, the libertarian-oriented Republican whose 2008 presidential run provided kindling for the Tea Party movement….

Wasn’t it an “evil” money handler on the floor of the NY Stock Exchange who first kicked off the movement with a casual remark?

Sharr on February 28, 2010 at 2:26 PM

Paul losing is a pipe dream. He has literally about 1,000x the funds of the challengers.

The Dean on February 28, 2010 at 2:27 PM

There is nothing a Neoconservative hates more than a libertarian.

Spathi on February 28, 2010 at 2:28 PM

Ron Paul: 84 percent approving of his job performance in TX-14?

no worries

Spathi on February 28, 2010 at 12:16 PM

Stop it! That doesn’t fit the narrative that Ed Morrissey and Allahpundit desperately want to believe.

The Dean on February 28, 2010 at 2:34 PM

Wasn’t it an “evil” money handler on the floor of the NY Stock Exchange who first kicked off the movement with a casual remark?

No, it was CNBC’s Rick Santelli, live from the floor of the Chicago Mercantile Enchange.

Emperor Norton on February 28, 2010 at 2:46 PM

I wish every member of Congress had to face a robust primary and even more robust general election each and every time.
myrenovations on February 28, 2010 at 11:39 AM

Then you and everyone else who feels the same way need to pay attention in the coming two to three years because redrawing of Congressional Districts’ boundaries will occur as a result of the 2010 census. Both political parties are complicit in practices that have rendered races for House seats uncompetitive. I am referring to gerrymandering and to creating “majority minority” districts, for example. Putting an end to these incumbent protection schemes is something Tea Party members should resolve to combat when they surface in 2011 and 2012.

ya2daup on February 28, 2010 at 2:46 PM

This is tiresome. Any lame pretext to write a hit piece on RP. As others have said, there are honest grounds for disagreement and criticism; this statement is not it.

Btw, I hope Medina kicks some Hutchison but on Tuesday and secures a run-off. Sheriff Mack endorsed her, good enough for me.

Firefly_76 on February 28, 2010 at 2:53 PM

*butt*

Firefly_76 on February 28, 2010 at 2:54 PM

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