Open thread: US vs Canada for hockey gold; Update: Canada wins in OT

posted at 2:00 pm on February 28, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

The US hasn’t won Olympic hockey gold since the Miracle on Ice in 1980.  Canada last won the gold in 2002 — by defeating the United States in the final.  Canada has lost once in the Olympics, to this same US squad, while the Americans have gone undefeated.  This may well be the most dramatic competitive moment in the games, at least for television viewers.  Who will win — the commanding Americans or the Olympic hosts?

When Team Canada faltered in the first round of the Olympic hockey tournament, the nation that prides itself on having invented the game held its collective breath. Not to worry: a romp over Germany and a rout of Russia put this star-laden team back on track.

Or did it?

Canada barely hung on to defeat fast-closing Slovakia in the semifinals and secure its place in Sunday’s gold medal game at Canada Hockey Place. Adversity could bring the Canadians closer — or exhaust them.

The U.S. has run the table, relying on perseverance to subdue the stubborn Swiss in the quarterfinals and using physicality and speed to embarrass Finland in a 6-1 blowout. They have no gamebreakers — the closest to that is Hawks winger Patrick Kane — but their teamwork and energy have fueled their success.

I’m putting my money (figuratively speaking) on the US, but I’m glad that my favorite two teams made it into the finals.  The game starts at 3:15 ET and will get televised live.  USA! USA!

Update: Team USA scored a goal in the final 24 seconds to send it into OT, but Team Canada won in sudden death, 3-2.  Congratulations to our cousins north of the border — it was a classic Gold Medal finish.

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Pretty lame closing ceremony. I’ve watched every single one the past 8 olympics, and this one had to rank dead last.

No kidding. Nickleback?? That’s the best they could come up with? Couldn’t they have done the Super Bowl thing and brought out Bachman-Turner Overdrive or the Guess Who? Rush? April Wine. Hell, even Chilliwack would have been better.

Fed45 on February 28, 2010 at 11:48 PM

I told you…

Over produced gayfest!

DRINK!!!

Seven Percent Solution on March 1, 2010 at 12:28 AM

If Iran liquidates Israel using a Russian nuclear weapon before the next Olympics…

… do the tanks in Georgia really have to leave?

Seven Percent Solution on March 1, 2010 at 12:33 AM

It might have been covered before, I have been away for a bit…

… but am I the only one noticing that the Royal Canadian Mountain Police don’t really have a weight limit, or are keen on choreography?

Just sayin’…

Seven Percent Solution on March 1, 2010 at 12:35 AM

I was stunned by how great Michael J Fox looked & sounded.
leilani on February 28, 2010 at 10:30 PM

It was good to see — not to mention he helped change the subject a little, from the previous expat Canadian’s back-in-country shtick about how “we Canadians like cleaning up after you slobs… we like saying ‘sorry’…” etc. Go back to Hollywierd!

Norwegian on February 28, 2010 at 11:34 PM

Not to mention the creepy Sochi preview. If I want to hear all 18 verses of the revised Soviet national anthem I’ll pop in a Hunt for Red October DVD and listen to it while watching a compelling plotline.

I did enjoy these Olympics though and, to anyone who’s done the “Grouse Grind” or been to Whistler in the summer, it was a real treat to see everything in winter splendor. And they’ve widened the road to Whistler – must be less of a nail-biter now!

Also great to see U.S. scoop a record medal count, Canada scoop a record gold medal count, and Austria hang in there for the #5 spot to edge out Russia/Korea/China etc., though I would’ve liked to see us rack up more golds. ;)

RD on March 1, 2010 at 12:39 AM

So, the Canadian NHL All-Stars beat the USA NHL All-Stars in the finals of Olympic NHL All-Star tournament. Aren’t you supposed to win the gold medal in your national sport? Now, if Canada beat the US in either basketball or baseball;THAT would be upsetting. So congrats to Canada for winning a gold medal in another niche sport.

Fed45 on February 28, 2010 at 11:41 PM

More sweet sweet sugary tears, thank God I’m not diabetic.

BL@KBIRD on March 1, 2010 at 1:03 AM

Now, if Canada beat the US in either basketball or baseball;THAT would be upsetting

Nobody was calling Canada’s victory an upset. Nobody.

But if hockey’s a niche sport, what about American football? Who plays that outside of the US (and its territories) and Canada?

YYZ on March 1, 2010 at 1:29 AM

Hard to get excited about a team that just met a couple weeks ago. Win or lose, this was no 1980.

Ronnie on March 1, 2010 at 1:49 AM

heshtesh on February 28, 2010 at 9:13 PM

Them’s is fighting words. Just the opposite. We beat Canada once, they should be eliminated. But the fact libtards run the IOC means that they get another chance.

Wolftech on March 1, 2010 at 2:29 AM

YYZ on March 1, 2010 at 1:29 AM

Guess you never heard of NFL Europe.

Wolftech on March 1, 2010 at 2:32 AM

Hard to get excited about a team that just met a couple weeks ago. Win or lose, this was no 1980.

Ronnie on March 1, 2010 at 1:49 AM

heshtesh on February 28, 2010 at 9:13 PM

Them’s is fighting words. Just the opposite. We beat Canada once, they should be eliminated. But the fact libtards run the IOC means that they get another chance.

Wolftech on March 1, 2010 at 2:29 AM

Man, I put on two pounds from that sweet drink of losers tears.

BL@KBIRD on March 1, 2010 at 2:37 AM

Man, I put on two pounds from that sweet drink of losers tears.

BL@KBIRD on March 1, 2010 at 2:37 AM

You are right, that closing ceremony was so awesome…

… so what else does Avril Lavigne do?

I sure hope they were serving cocktails at that show…

… Whew! Can’t wait for the DVD!

Seven Percent Solution on March 1, 2010 at 3:23 AM

we showed the world ‘what for” in Medal wins this time round. ;)

Um, no. The US won the most medals. And dear god, that was the worst closing ceremonies. Ever. Horrible! Every has-been Canadian celebrity blabbing aboot their awesome homeland while every one of them lives in the US. Ugh, and the delusional myths that Canadians have aboot themselves-you aren’t polite, you’re in fact, barely scratched, foaming at the mouths antiAmerican assholes. And big myth 2# destroyed-you aren’t funny. The ceremony was an excruciating exhibit A in that department. I guess the horrible closing was a fitting end, however, to what has to be, with all it’s glitches and problems, the worst Winter Olympics ever.

kit9 on March 1, 2010 at 4:05 AM

It might have been covered before, I have been away for a bit…

… but am I the only one noticing that the Royal Canadian Mountain Police don’t really have a weight limit, or are keen on choreography?

Just sayin’…

Seven Percent Solution on March 1, 2010 at 12:35 AM

Seven Percent Solution: I do like the Mounties,but I do
believe,there much like the Queens
Guards!!:)

canopfor on March 1, 2010 at 7:25 AM

Well,I’m glad at the end of the day,
America and Canada,are still a team,
as in,Afghanistan!:)

canopfor on March 1, 2010 at 7:29 AM

I bet Zach Parise will be in many nightmarish terrors for the canuks in years to come…..eh?

jbh45 on March 1, 2010 at 8:00 AM

Talked to a friend in Vancouver, no mass suicides tonite!
Opening ceremonies, not bad.
Closing ceremonies, rear end of a dog.
I mean, inflatable beavers and babes in Mountie costumes?
Wow, it redefines bad.

gordo on March 1, 2010 at 8:17 AM

I enjoyed it; it was fun, although the bands sucked (Nickelback? Simple Plan? Hedley? Ugh. The Tragically Hip! The Barenaked Ladies! Rush!). Sochi will be a let-down after this. But I was happy to see that Russians are so proud of Sputnik when promoting an athletic event.

Frozen Tex on March 1, 2010 at 8:50 AM

Them’s is fighting words. Just the opposite. We beat Canada once, they should be eliminated. But the fact libtards run the IOC means that they get another chance.

Wolftech on March 1, 2010 at 2:29 AM

Someone sounds bitter.

Darth Executor on March 1, 2010 at 9:56 AM

GOLD CANADA GOLD!!!! :)

AlexB on March 1, 2010 at 10:07 AM

BS you and all of Canada is loving the fact that the USA hockey team lost tonight.

That said I don’t blame you at all.

F15Mech on February 28, 2010 at 11:24 PM

The only reason why I’m loving it is because you were all gloating when you won the previous game. I don’t really care about hockey or dumb national rivalries but watching hot air eat humble pie was quite satisfying.

Darth Executor on March 1, 2010 at 10:16 AM

Darth Executor on March 1, 2010 at 10:16 AM

Right, and in any sort of PROPER system, Canada would be eliminated because they LOST to us. Instead, you got this double elimination set up where losers get a chance to still compete for the gold.

Wolftech on March 1, 2010 at 10:54 AM

Someone sounds bitter.

Darth Executor on March 1, 2010 at 9:56 AM

And someone sounds trollish.

Wolftech on March 1, 2010 at 10:55 AM

And someone sounds trollish.

Wolftech on March 1, 2010 at 10:55 AM

Nope.

Not getting the trolling vibe. Just the bitter attitude of an incredibly sore loser.

You-Eh-Vee on March 1, 2010 at 11:29 AM

Yet another reason to hate Cindy “Cry-baby” Crosby. Christ, why did it have to be him? BOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

Great game, though.

Sincerely,
A downtrodden Caps fan.

bryan2369 on March 1, 2010 at 11:43 AM

Right, and in any sort of PROPER system, Canada would be eliminated because they LOST to us. Instead, you got this double elimination set up where losers get a chance to still compete for the gold.

Wolftech on March 1, 2010 at 10:54 AM

Wolf those were the rules, there was the qualifying round and Canada earned enough points to get into the Medal round and then they won when they had to. Just like a team not having the best record in the regular season going on to win the playoffs.

It was a great game and the team USA played very well, Canada just played a bit better.

jpmn on March 1, 2010 at 12:39 PM

1
Great game

2
Soft goal

3
Horrible closing ceremonies except for the giant table hockey characters and the kid running around as the puck. But it was a wasted opportunity. You have my apologies for the rest of it.

Dave Rywall on March 1, 2010 at 12:42 PM

Right, and in any sort of PROPER system, Canada would be eliminated because they LOST to us. Instead, you got this double elimination set up where losers get a chance to still compete for the gold.

Wolftech on March 1, 2010 at 10:54 AM
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Wahh I don’t like the rules wahh someone change my diaper wahhh wahh

It’s the same round robin/elimination round format as in 1980, dumba$$.

Dave Rywall on March 1, 2010 at 12:43 PM

Flyers and Caps fans suck.

Crosby is a once-in-a-lifetime phenom.

jay12 on March 1, 2010 at 1:20 PM

Flyers and Caps fans suck.

Crosby is a once-in-a-lifetime phenom.

jay12 on March 1, 2010 at 1:20 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBvFa1A6e4k

Did Gretsky ever complain about too many hats being thrown to the ice after an opponent scored a hat trick? Once-in-a-lifetime whiner phenom, maybe.

bryan2369 on March 1, 2010 at 1:32 PM

bryan2369 on March 1, 2010 at 1:32 PM

Crosby is allowed to whine. He is the 2008-2009 Stanley Cup Champion and a 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist. He will also help retain the Stanley Cup so it can be displayed in the brand new $350 million Consol Energy Center, the construction of which is the result of Crosby’s arrival in Pittsburgh.

Your whining on here, however, seems not to be backed up even by a thimble-full of accomplishment.

jay12 on March 1, 2010 at 1:41 PM

1. US hockey team played very well, but Canada played a touch better
2. Opening & closing ceremonies – worst in memory
3. The Sliding track…enough said. That will never go away
4. If US can win gold over Germany in 4 man bobsled, and over Norwegians in Nordic combined, it can, with a little more effort and interest win Olympic gold in hockey

And finally, if Canada is such a hockey great shouldn’t it win at least one Stanley cup in a decade ? 15 years ?

runner on March 1, 2010 at 1:42 PM

Right, and in any sort of PROPER system, Canada would be eliminated because they LOST to us. Instead, you got this double elimination set up where losers get a chance to still compete for the gold.

Wolftech on March 1, 2010 at 10:54 AM

What is a “proper” system is in the eye of the beholder. The fact that a team who lost once got the gold shows that the system does a pretty good job of deciding which team is worthy of competing for the gold.

Darth Executor on March 1, 2010 at 1:54 PM

And finally, if Canada is such a hockey great shouldn’t it win at least one Stanley cup in a decade ? 15 years ?

runner on March 1, 2010 at 1:42 PM
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Gosh thanks for this – I never realized the players on Canadian NHL teams were all Canadian and the players on the American teams were all American.
Thank you so much.

Dave Rywall on March 1, 2010 at 1:55 PM

What is a “proper” system is in the eye of the beholder. The fact that a team who lost once got the gold shows that the system does a pretty good job of deciding which team is worthy of competing for the gold.

Darth Executor on March 1, 2010 at 1:54 PM
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Hold on now USA tied Sweden 2-2 in the round robin round in 1980, so they didn’t win every game.

Let’s hear Wolftech talk about their gold being forever tarnished.

Dave Rywall on March 1, 2010 at 1:57 PM

And finally, if Canada is such a hockey great shouldn’t it win at least one Stanley cup in a decade ? 15 years ?

runner on March 1, 2010 at 1:42 PM

What?

I didn’t know that Canada was an NHL team. Half or better of the NHL is made up of Canadien players. No NHL team has won the Stanley Cup with out Canadien players.

jpmn on March 1, 2010 at 3:47 PM

And finally, if Canada is such a hockey great shouldn’t it win at least one Stanley cup in a decade ? 15 years ?

runner on March 1, 2010 at 1:42 PM

Too many Americans on our teams?

Just a guess.

You-Eh-Vee on March 1, 2010 at 4:11 PM

jpmn on March 1, 2010 at 3:47 PM

Good try, but lots of US products have various moving parts produced around the globe, still, end result – Made in USA.

runner on March 1, 2010 at 4:12 PM

Good try, but lots of US products have various moving parts produced around the globe, still, end result – Made in USA.

runner on March 1, 2010 at 4:12 PM
——

In the 2005-2006 NHL season:

53.6% Canadian
18.6% American
6.9 Czech
4.7 Swedish
4.3 Russia
4.1 Finland
3.2 Slovakia
and it drops significantly from there.

Facts. You should try basing things on them.

Dave Rywall on March 1, 2010 at 4:27 PM

Dave Rywall on March 1, 2010 at 4:27 PM

even more facts – what is it like 80% Canadian ?

runner on March 1, 2010 at 4:36 PM

Dave Rywall on March 1, 2010 at 4:27 PM

even more facts – what is it like 80% Canadian ?

runner on March 1, 2010 at 4:36 PM
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I’m not the sportsless idiot claiming an NHL team’s roster is comprised of players from the country of that city. I know that league is only half Canadian.

Dave Rywall on March 1, 2010 at 4:41 PM

Dave Rywall on March 1, 2010 at 1:57 PM

Its a tie, not a loss. Not quite the same, now is it? Not that a brain dead idiot like you would know the difference, Drywall. Go back to Kos and get off my internet

Wolftech on March 1, 2010 at 4:57 PM

Facts. You should try basing things on them.

Dave Rywall on March 1, 2010 at 4:27 PM

Oh that is rich… a Leftard like you talking about facts.

Wolftech on March 1, 2010 at 4:58 PM

I’m not the sportsless idiot claiming an NHL team’s roster is comprised of players from the country of that city. I know that league is only half Canadian.

Dave Rywall on March 1, 2010 at 4:41 PM

what ? was that Canadian ?

Not a single Canadian franchise, with all that pool of talent available, consisting mostly of Canadian players, won a Stanley Cup in over 15 years.

runner on March 1, 2010 at 5:04 PM

Good try, but lots of US products have various moving parts produced around the globe, still, end result – Made in USA.

Can’t believe I’m agreeing with Rywall here…

Boy, I’ve seen some desperate attempts of rationalizing loss, but this gem takes the cake. Are you really drawing parallels between product outsourcing and hockey?

By that brilliant standard, every hockey team and every hockey win is made Canada. We designed it, we engineered it, and we supply the ridiculously large majority of players – it’s just outsourced.

I like America, I root with you guys on the battlefield, but I have to agree with a sign I saw in Kandahar: USA & Canada – Brothers in arms, but not on the ice.

Suck it up boys.

You-Eh-Vee on March 1, 2010 at 5:08 PM

YAY Canada ! :-)

cableguy615 on March 1, 2010 at 6:52 PM

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