NYT getting pessimistic about reconciliation

posted at 10:41 am on February 28, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

While Democrats insist that they can push ObamaCare through Congress using reconciliation, their media allies seem unconvinced.  The New York Times offers a rather glum view of the chances of getting either the Senate or the House to pass the bills necessary to make the strategy work.  Without the Stupak language to give them cover on the abortion issue, dozens of Ayes on the original bill will turn to Nays, and the rapidly-approaching midterms may convince even more to jump ship:

Under the Democrats’ tentative plans, the House would pass the health care bill approved in December by the Senate, and both chambers would approve a separate package of changes using a parliamentary device known as budget reconciliation.

The tactic is intended to avoid a Republican filibuster, but in the Senate, the majority leader, Harry Reid of Nevada, faces challenges if he tries to use it. He is having trouble persuading a majority of his caucus to go along.

In the House, lawmakers like Mr. Kratovil, Mr. Cardoza and other swing Democrats will come under increasing scrutiny from leadership as a vote draws near. Of the 219 Democrats who initially voted in favor of the House measure, roughly 40 did so in part because it contained the so-called Stupak amendment, intended to discourage insurers from covering abortion.

Some, notably Representative Bart Stupak, the Michigan Democrat for whom the amendment is named, will almost certainly switch their yes votes to no because the new version being pushed by Mr. Obama would strip out the House bill’s abortion restrictions in favor of Senate language that many of them consider unacceptable.

An additional 39, like Mr. Kratovil, are fiscal conservatives who voted no the first time around. Ms. Pelosi is hoping that she can get some to switch those no votes to yes in favor of Mr. Obama’s less expensive measure.

But persuading Democrats who are already on record as opposing a health overhaul to do a turnabout will not be an easy task, especially during a midterm election year in which Democrats’ political prospects already look bleak. Of the 39 Democrats who voted against the House measure, 31, including Mr. Kratovil, represent districts that were won in 2008 by Senator John McCain of Arizona, Mr. Obama’s Republican rival. Fourteen, including Mr. Kratovil, are freshmen, who are generally considered more politically vulnerable than more senior lawmakers.

The first House version passed by five votes, but that included some stage management by Nancy Pelosi to give a few Democrats the opportunity to vote no to save their political skins.  That, however, was almost four months ago, when the midterms were a full year away.  Now, some of these Democrats have to start planning primary campaigns in traditionally center-right districts.

How many votes did Pelosi really have as a buffer on that vote?  No one is quite sure, but two things are certain.  She doesn’t have nearly as many this time around, and those Representatives that got to vote no the first time to save their skins won’t vote yes this time around.  If they reverse themselves now while the bill becomes even less popular with voters, they may as well skip the re-election campaigns and sell their Beltway condos now.

As for the kamikaze strategy, the Times makes a short but trenchant point:

But politicians do not want to be martyrs. They want to hold onto their seats.

Pelosi has another problem in pushing the House end of the bargain.  If the House passes the Senate version, all it takes to become law is Obama’s signature — and that means no public option, a tax on union health-care plans, and no surcharge on the rich.  Progressives in the House have to trust that the Senate will actually pass a reconciliation package fixing all the problems in their current version to the satisfaction of the House progressive caucus.  They won’t pass the Senate version without it, even if all of the above conditions get met.

Can Harry Reid pass a reconciliation bill?  Probably not, although it’s not impossible.  Democrats up for re-election this year will have great reluctance in enabling such a strategy to pass such an unpopular bill.  Also, Republicans plan to offer an infinite number of amendments — which reconciliation allows them to do — to create a filibuster by other means.  The more this becomes clear, the less likely the House will ever pass the Senate bill at all.

As the midterms approach, the electoral pressure will force many Democrats into obstructing reconciliation.  If Reid and Pelosi can’t get it done in the next couple of weeks, it probably won’t happen.

Update: No sooner do I post this than I see that my friend Dafydd ab Hugh wrote a great analysis of the same Times article in the Green Room.  Be sure to read it!


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go get’em…

cmsinaz on May 23, 2013 at 8:05 PM

Among those officials: Jacob Sullivan, then deputy chief of staff and director of policy planning (and currently national security adviser to Vice President Joe Biden); Victoria Nuland, then State Department spokesman; Raymond Maxwell, deputy assistant secretary of state for near east affairs; Patrick Kennedy, undersecretary of state for management; and Eric Boswell, former assistant secretary of state for diplomatic security.

Boom.

peski on May 23, 2013 at 8:05 PM

hillary needs to come back as well….

cmsinaz on May 23, 2013 at 8:06 PM

I wonder if these whistleblowers are included.

PJM EXCLUSIVE: Ex-Diplomats Report New Benghazi Whistleblowers with Info Devastating to Clinton and Obama

…These whistleblowers, colleagues of the former diplomats, are currently securing legal counsel because they work in areas not fully protected by the Whistleblower law.

…The former diplomats inform PJM the new revelations concentrate in two areas — what Ambassador Chris Stevens was actually doing in Benghazi and the pressure put on General Carter Ham, then in command of U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM) and therefore responsible for Libya, not to act to protect jeopardized U.S. personnel.

Stevens’ mission in Benghazi, they will say, was to buy back Stinger missiles from al-Qaeda groups issued to them by the State Department, not by the CIA. Such a mission would usually be a CIA effort, but the intelligence agency had opposed the idea because of the high risk involved in arming “insurgents” with powerful weapons that endanger civilian aircraft.

…Regarding General Ham, military contacts of the diplomats tell them that AFRICOM had Special Ops “assets in place that could have come to the aid of the Benghazi consulate immediately (not in six hours).”

Ham was told by the White House not to send the aid to the trapped men, but Ham decided to disobey and did so anyway, whereupon the White House “called his deputy and had the deputy threaten to relieve Ham of his command.”

INC on May 23, 2013 at 8:08 PM

President Obama on Thursday nominated Victoria Nuland, a State Department official involved in the editing of the administration’s talking points on Benghazi, to be the next assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs.

via politico

is he really that clueless????

cmsinaz on May 23, 2013 at 8:10 PM

As the investigation into the Obama administration’s handling of the attacks on U.S. facilities in Benghazi intensifies, lawmakers on Capitol Hill are seeking to conduct transcribed interviews with thirteen top State Department officials in the coming weeks in order to learn more.

I don’t know the details of a transcribed interview. Will they be under oath?

Curtiss on May 23, 2013 at 8:11 PM

is he really that clueless????

cmsinaz on May 23, 2013 at 8:10 PM

Arrogant and narcissistic. He may think he’s completely untouchable because for his entire political life, he’s pretty much done whatever he wanted to do and gotten away with it.

INC on May 23, 2013 at 8:12 PM

INC on May 23, 2013 at 8:12 PM

tru dat

cmsinaz on May 23, 2013 at 8:12 PM

So we’re coming up to hit about two full weeks of scandals?

Still more revelations every day as the stable doors burst open on this Augean Administration.

INC on May 23, 2013 at 8:14 PM

Nothing wrong with pandering to your ever decreasing base I guess.

HotAirLib on May 23, 2013 at 8:16 PM

i’m just gonna say it: Darell Issa is sexy!

GhoulAid on May 23, 2013 at 8:17 PM

Keeping up pressure is a fitting tribute for Memorial Day.

ajacksonian on May 23, 2013 at 8:17 PM

I have no confidence that Issa has what it takes to get to the truth of any of these scandals.

blue13326 on May 23, 2013 at 8:19 PM

President Obama on Thursday nominated Victoria Nuland, a State Department official involved in the editing of the administration’s talking points on Benghazi, to be the next assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs.
via politico

is he really that clueless????

cmsinaz on May 23, 2013 at 8:10 PM

Nothing wrong with pandering to your ever decreasing base I guess.

HotAirLib on May 23, 2013 at 8:16 PM

You are correct for once.

VegasRick on May 23, 2013 at 8:22 PM

Nothing wrong with pandering to your ever decreasing base I guess.

HotAirLib on May 23, 2013 at 8:16 PM

Fiat justitia et ruant coeli
Let justice be done, though the heavens fall.

INC on May 23, 2013 at 8:28 PM

Note to ERIKA JOHNSEN: the “womp” is missing.r Please pick up the blue courtesy phone in the lobby.

ExpressoBold on May 23, 2013 at 8:33 PM

HAL, Sing daisy for us.

Can’t handle your messiah failing huh?

The next few weeks should be fun, well for us not you. You’ll soon be curled up in the fetal potition sucking your thumb.

Tissue?

D-fusit on May 23, 2013 at 8:51 PM

hillary needs to come back as well….

cmsinaz on May 23, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Hillary will be back on her deathbed before she goes back to Congress. She wants to be President. She timed her last appearance (not under oath) so that it was just before her victory lap as the best SecState ever. She’s not going to willingly go back to Congress and have to answer the questions that the ARB should have asked if it were conducted by men of integrity instead of Mullen and Pickering.

Happy Nomad on May 23, 2013 at 8:52 PM

Nothing wrong with pandering to your ever decreasing base I guess.

HotAirLib on May 23, 2013 at 8:16 PM

Well, we’ll see how that works out for the rat-eared traitor. Fewer and fewer supporters everyday as the scandals take their toll. It is only a matter of time before Bo denies that he knows this filthy corrupt bastard (literally).

Happy Nomad on May 23, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Nothing wrong with pandering to your ever decreasing base I guess.

HotAirLib on May 23, 2013 at 8:16 PM

ZOMG!!11!! HAL has become a Republican! Thank goodness! I was in fear for your almost-immortal soul. (You still owe time to Satan, for your years of apostasy).

Um, what was that…? HAL attempted sarcasm? Well, butter my butt, and call me a biscuit! And they told me libbabies don’t have a sense of humor! Good, HAL, good. In a few years, you might be eligible to apply for human race membership.

Your Libbiebers are going down in flames, HAL. Enjoy the weenie roast.

creekspecter on May 23, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Nobody is in jail yet. One vacation, and one 3 week early retirement.

I like the line,, but results would be good.

IRS agents in a supermax general population.

wolly4321 on May 23, 2013 at 9:53 PM

There’s been some concern[-trolling] that Republicans might be pushing their luck with the extent to which they are focusing on Scandalmania and especially the ongoing Benghazi debacle, but a CNN poll earlier this week confirmed that a healthy majority of 59 percent of Americans approve of the way Republicans have been handling the investigation…

We’ve hit a point in this country where political gamesmanship should not be considered. Even if the poll were not favorable, this is the hill to die on–because if someone does not reign in this out-of-control administration, there will be no more hills. When one party ruthlessly and brazenly abuses the power of the public offices it controls to punish its political enemies, what follows–barring some sort of intervention and house cleaning–is tyranny.

It is truly terrifying how far along that path we have slipped. I shudder to think what will happen if the Republicans let these egregious wrongs–these assaults against everything America stands for–go. It’s heartening that 59% of Americans get that. (Of course, it would be great if the percentage were higher, but I’m willing, all things considered, to see that in a glass-a-bit-past-half-full kind of way.)

And when I consider how I would react if this were a Republican administration rather than a Democrat one, I feel exactly the same way. I would want the guilty parties identified, removed from office, and suitably punished. Either we are a people that believes in the rule of law, or we are a people willing to be subject to the capricious desires of whoever happens to hold the most power.

May God help us, and may justice be done–no matter what polls say.

butterflies and puppies on May 23, 2013 at 10:10 PM

are going to hold Secretary Kerry to his promise to run “an accountable and open State Department”:

Yeah? And what’s the ‘expiration date’ going to be on that “promise”?

GarandFan on May 23, 2013 at 10:24 PM

The backdrop for all this corruption is a media, an educational system, and an entertainment industry that all act as propagandists for one political party and one political ideology.

Imagine a theatre filled with an audience who have diverse political views. Yet the sound engineer, the lighting engineer, the actors, the musicians, the stage hands, the ushers, and the candy vendors all act in unison to promote one point of view.

This is the America that we live in today, and the GOP are to blame for sitting on their hands and allowing this situation to metastasize for the past 40 years, based on the idiot logic of “hey, we’re still winning our fair share of elections, so let’s stay above the fray”.

When the next Civil War begins, it can also be ended in one day. Just bomb the hell out of every college campus faculty lounge, every Hollywood studio, and the HQ of every MSM outlet, and then watch America slowly go back to normal.

Cut all three heads off of the snake.

ardenenoch on May 23, 2013 at 11:46 PM

Considering how dreadfully FEW were involved in last years elections I’m glad our remaining representatives are still taking their jobs seriously.

If more don’t start getting involved NOW I couldn’t blame them for letting these matters drop.

Let them eat cake, right?

DannoJyd on May 24, 2013 at 1:05 AM

…reign in…
butterflies and puppies on May 23, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Sorry–should be “rein in.” I’m going to blame it on a combination of tiredness, distraction, and the unsettling specter of a power-mad monarch looming over the future of this country. ;)

butterflies and puppies on May 24, 2013 at 1:37 AM

Nothing will happen for 11 days. Congress is adjourned for the Memorial DAY holiday. Only in govt will 1 holiday equal 11 days off.

Kissmygrits on May 24, 2013 at 8:49 AM

I would point out that by definition it extremely difficult to blackout the public and overwhelm them with information and talking about something at the same time.

I guess the Media’s take is that forcing the Media to say “move along nothing to see here”, enough times will irritate the public into voting against Republicans.

I think they also know the did the “move along nothing to see here thing” on Benghazi and they don’t wan’t other to understand how horribly wrong and biased they were to do that.

Personally I think that is really the media saying they don’t know if they can do those 2 things at the same time and so are hoping to steer everyone away from making them do this tightrope walk.

Conan on May 24, 2013 at 10:06 AM