Good news: Obama to announce “way forward” on ObamaCare next week

posted at 7:23 pm on February 26, 2010 by Allahpundit

Gee, I wonder what he’ll do.

President Obama will make an announcement sometime next week on what he “believes is the best way forward” on health care reform, the White House said Friday.

“We’ve had many weeks to contemplate where we are,” White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said…

If the Senate is unable to find any Republican votes for health care, they may use a process called “reconciliation,” which only requires a simple majority, to pass the bill. While the proposal to use reconciliation has been characterized by some as too partisan, Gibbs said that “the notion that somehow health care hasn’t been done this way has been offered up by people but is not accurate.”

I don’t know if I can stand the suspense until next week, so let’s see if we can solve the puzzle now by piecing together some clues. Last night Axelrod told CNN that the American people want majority rule on this. (Which is a lie, natch.) Around the same time, Bernie Sanders was claiming there may be 50 votes in the Senate to pass the public option via reconciliation. This morning, a a senior House leadership source stressed to ABC that, no matter what Ben Nelson may think, a scaled-down bill will not pass the House, which means Reid had better find a way to get Obama’s plan through. And then this afternoon Madam Speaker explicitly called for using a “simple majority” to pass Obama’s bill in the Senate. Given all that, anyone want to inch out on the limb and make a prediction as to what the “way forward” will be?

Don’t despair, though. Per CNN, a lot of House Dems are nervous about passing the Senate bill before Reid proves that he has 51 votes to make reconciliation happen. (“One senior House Democratic leadership aide tells CNN that is ‘the biggest’ obstacle right now in this whole process.”) And there’s always the wild card of Democratic “confusion”! Exit question: In light of how unpopular reconciliation is, why would Obama want to take the heat of being the one to formally declare it the “way forward”? Until now, he’s been content to let Congress take the lead on everything. I assume he thinks either (a) lending presidential authority to it could sway a few wavering Dems or (b) Reid and the Blue Dogs are in such dire straits with the midterms bearing down that he now has to start taking punches on their behalf to protect them. But even so, an uncharacteristic move from a guy who likes to vote present.


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majority rules is mob rules on this one, they will pay in November

we need to Melt the Phones after the announcement

ginaswo on February 26, 2010 at 7:26 PM

It’s the Reconciliation 2-step.

Sorry Barry, nobody wants to dance.

portlandon on February 26, 2010 at 7:27 PM

Given all that, anyone want to inch out on the limb and make a prediction what the “way forward” will be?

Sure, I’ll take a swing at it…

“Obowmacare will suddenly become an advocate for all things gay…”

Seven Percent Solution on February 26, 2010 at 7:27 PM

I think Obama should call it “The Shining Path Forward on Healthcare.”

Exurban Jon on February 26, 2010 at 7:28 PM

The best thing he can do is pick the most popular single item by itself and push that through and wait for the rest later… he needs to get a win and build trust that he isn’t trying to just hijack the whole system for partisan purposes…

ninjapirate on February 26, 2010 at 7:28 PM

He can’t count on the Blue Dogs…. this is his only chance.

PaCadle on February 26, 2010 at 7:30 PM

What exactly are they smoking at 1600 PA ave???

Yes, you could say that Americans want to the majority rule- the majority rule of the Americans who overwhelmingly do NOT want this to pass.

cibolo on February 26, 2010 at 7:30 PM

To the barricades!

Fallen Sparrow on February 26, 2010 at 7:30 PM

They have nothing to lose at this point. They’re toast in November no matter what. Why not have something to show for it…..?
I have serious doubts the House does not have the votes. They have a 77 vote majority.
The Dems want this and they don’t care who hates it.
They can’t resist the thought of govt. control creeping into every part of our lives.

NeoKong on February 26, 2010 at 7:31 PM

All I can say is this. From what I read of the reconcilation process, the Republicans can offer up as many amendments as they like. If they want to stop this, they’d better signal NOW that they will enact a de facto filibuster via the amendment process. That would cause (I think) just enough doubt in the minds of some House members to stop this whole process cold.

RationalIcthus on February 26, 2010 at 7:31 PM

This government is so rogue it makes Chavez’ government look honest by comparison.

There will be NO Democrat ousting if this passes. They will spend, berate, lie, and STEAL elections outright. Laws and rules mean nothing to these people.

Shut it down. Shut it ALL down.

Skywise on February 26, 2010 at 7:31 PM

The best thing he can do is pick the most popular single item by itself and push that through and wait for the rest later… he needs to get a win and build trust that he isn’t trying to just hijack the whole system for partisan purposes… resign.

ninjapirate on February 26, 2010 at 7:28 PM

Fallen Sparrow on February 26, 2010 at 7:32 PM

Go reconciliation, then play the Iran card. Or capture Bin Laden.

milemarker2020 on February 26, 2010 at 7:32 PM

Bring it.

El_Terrible on February 26, 2010 at 7:32 PM

So, passing the healthcare is going to be like Jonestown but with even less voluntary consumption of the KoolAid and more shooting?

myrenovations on February 26, 2010 at 7:32 PM

Another clue: Dingy Harry denied anybody was talking about it.

tdau1997 on February 26, 2010 at 7:32 PM

Given all that, anyone want to inch out on the limb and make a prediction as to what the “way forward” will be?

Anyone who can prove that they are unable, low income, over produced (to many children) or too old… will be able to get the start of the Reformization Medical Expenditure Revitalization Grouping of the U.S.A.

upinak on February 26, 2010 at 7:32 PM

What’s the worst outcome for Obama?

1) Dropping Obamacare after the Scott Brown election and having nothing to show for nearly a year’s worth of negotiating?

2) Ramming through an unpopular Obamacare bill using reconciliation and bribery?

3) Attempting to ram through an unpopular Obamacare bill using reconciliation and bribery after getting schooled by the GOP at the nationally-televised summit only to come up a few votes short?

He better pray #2 happens, cuz #3 would effectively end his Presidency.

Doughboy on February 26, 2010 at 7:33 PM

Best way forward?

A new President of the United States.

Liam on February 26, 2010 at 7:33 PM

Best way forward?

A different President of the United States.

Liam on February 26, 2010 at 7:33 PM

Go for it Barry. Own it. You won’t even get speaking engagements after we kick your sorry a$$ out of DC. Chigago won’t even want you after the American people get done with you.

katy the mean old lady on February 26, 2010 at 7:33 PM

Sorry for the double post…got hung up.

Liam on February 26, 2010 at 7:34 PM

I assume he thinks either (a) lending presidential authority to it could sway a few wavering Dems or (b) Reid and the Blue Dogs are in such dire straits with the midterms bearing down that he now has to start taking punches on their behalf to protect them.

Rebuttal to ‘a’: VA NJ MA

Rebuttal to ‘b’: VA NJ MA

Honestly, I have to think that this is still an exit strategy maneuver, the way out that you described earlier this week. That would at least explain why he’s so “all-in” on this, because he knows it will break down in the legislature and he can say he did all he could, D.C. is just broken. This keeps everything the same for his poor ego: maintains distance from icky D.C., votes present, keeps his base, doesn’t suffer from nuclear electoral fallout. IF, however, they are serious, and he is out in front pushing something that is literally going to create an electoral wasteland that makes 1994 look like fantasy island, then it will signal a frightening shift in this administration that will have to be stopped by a completely united and principled GOP, as well as decent governors and state legislatures all across the U.S.

Weight of Glory on February 26, 2010 at 7:34 PM

The Senate was never intended to pass legislation as easily as the House. Which is why the very term “filibuster” dates back even before the Civil War.

As Professor Wikipedia writes:

In 1789, the first U.S. Senate adopted rules allowing the Senate “to move the previous question,” ending debate and proceeding to a vote. Aaron Burr argued that the motion regarding the previous question was redundant, had only been exercised once in the preceding four years, and should be eliminated.[29] In 1806, the Senate agreed, recodifying its rules, and thus the potential for a filibuster sprang into being.[29] Because the Senate created no alternative mechanism for terminating debate, the filibuster became an option for delay and blocking of floor votes.

So do me a favor, liberals, and spare me the crap about majority rule being the American concept when it comes to the Senate. That’s not been the case throughout history.

amerpundit on February 26, 2010 at 7:34 PM

It’s interesting to see how many people cannot stand Obama anymore. This will just make them hate him more.

deidre on February 26, 2010 at 7:34 PM

Yep have at it.

In reality -they don’t have the votes to get it done. You think the Dems want to lose their jobs for him?

CWforFreedom on February 26, 2010 at 7:35 PM

Time to invest in American companies manufacturing pitchforks.

publiuspen on February 26, 2010 at 7:36 PM

They need not only to be ousted, they need to be prosecuted!!

DougDavis on February 26, 2010 at 7:36 PM

…an uncharacteristic move from a guy who likes to vote present.

I’d say unexpected.

BacaDog on February 26, 2010 at 7:36 PM

When the democrats and the president refused to starting over in the health care summit they set the stage for any and all means of getting the bill passed. Obama has been a coward up until now to press for reconcilliation but as he said the campaign is over.

fourdeucer on February 26, 2010 at 7:36 PM

All I can say is this. From what I read of the reconcilation process, the Republicans can offer up as many amendments as they like. If they want to stop this, they’d better signal NOW that they will enact a de facto filibuster via the amendment process. That would cause (I think) just enough doubt in the minds of some House members to stop this whole process cold.

RationalIcthus on February 26, 2010 at 7:31 PM

Why not? They’re going to label the GOP the “Party of No” anyway, might as well earn the title in a way that the American people will be thankful for.

Maybe all the delays have lulled me into a false sense of security, but I really don’t think ObamaCare (in any of the current forms) is going to be able to pull the wooden stake from its heart.

RachDubya on February 26, 2010 at 7:37 PM

Obama is on the verge (if he isn’t already over the cliff) of losing the consent of the governed.

Ordinary American on February 26, 2010 at 7:37 PM

O/T, but just catching up on My World With Neil Cavuto…..
he had Frank Duntz Panel……..
~An equal number of obama and mccain voters
~Were shocked that the republicans had an alternative plan until they watched yesterday
~Were happy with the give and take, but were surprised that obama wasn’t as good without this teleprompter
~Both Duntz and his panel did not find obama ‘arrogant’.

Where did Duntz find these morons? My questions…can they breathe and speak at the same time? Do they have to remember to hold their breath when the swim? Do they have to be reminded to breathe?

No wonder we have obama as the president.
F*CKING IDIOTS!

And, this isn’t the obama I KNEW…. /

HornetSting on February 26, 2010 at 7:38 PM

The best thing he can do is pick the most popular single item by itself and push that through and wait for the rest later… he needs to get a win and build trust that he isn’t trying to just hijack the whole system for partisan purposes…

ninjapirate on February 26, 2010 at 7:28 PM

That’s the thing, the whole bill is one large sausage of payoffs and buyouts that loosely hold together an incredible power grab over the private sector. The reason why they can’t “bit by bit” this thing is because the power the government wants can only be maintained if all those whom this bill protects (read Big Labor)are protected. But all that protection is only worth it for the government if they maintain the huge power grab this bill would provide. It’s all or nothing for all involved.

Weight of Glory on February 26, 2010 at 7:38 PM

“Party of No”

What a joke. The President already has had many things get passed. What a con job. It appears most Americans are not buying it.

CWforFreedom on February 26, 2010 at 7:39 PM

One Term President.

portlandon on February 26, 2010 at 7:39 PM

Obow thinks himself an ‘event’. Problem for him is that he can’t seem to find a place to happen.

Liam on February 26, 2010 at 7:41 PM

I coulda swore I heard Papa Obama send the Republicans for a month..6 week “time out” to reconsider signing on to his ginormous health care takeover.

I figured he’d keep pushing the date back over and over like with Iran and sanctions.

Sheesh, Obama didn’t even give his fellow Americans a week!

marybel on February 26, 2010 at 7:41 PM

He’s going to come out and say he agrees with the Republicans on _______________ and maybe __________. (Fill in your own blannks). He knows no one across the aisle will go for this, so he’ll then pivot to saying the democrats have no choice but to use reconciliation. Good luck with that! This bon mot I found from Keith Hennessey authored August 6th, 2009!!:

So imagine that Senator Reid has had clever staff redraft the Senate HELP Committee and Senate Finance Committee language to avoid most of the Byrd rule problems I described yesterday. Assume that he knows from the Senate parliamentarian that, while he will lose some components of the bill if he cannot get 60 votes to defend them, with 51 votes he’ll be able to pass most of the bill.

But then along comes Senator Loper, who is deeply concerned about the fiscal impact that long-term budget deficits will have on her three children. She raises the long-term budget point of order against the reconciliation bill. Assume she has an estimate from CBO which shows that the bill increases budget deficits by more than $5 B in the period 2020-2029. It might look like this key quote from CBO’s analysis of the House Tri-Committee bill, H.R. 3200:

In sum, relative to current law, the proposal would probably generate substantial increases in federal budget deficits during the decade beyond the current 10-year budget window.

If Senator Reid cannot find 60 votes to waive that point of order, the entire bill dies.

The President told MSNBC yesterday that in September Democrats might abandon their bipartisan talks with Republicans and choose a partisan route. If they do go partisan, they can either use the reconciliation process or try to get all 60 Senate Democrats to support a single bill. The President and his advisors would be wise not to underestimate the difficulty of the reconciliation path.

They’ve blustered before, and they are doing it again.

SouthernGent on February 26, 2010 at 7:42 PM

Go reconciliation, then play the Iran card. Or capture Bin Laden.

milemarker2020 on February 26, 2010 at 7:32 PM

Even to suggest this to these morons is scary. Clinton tried the wag the dog during his “hummer affair” and got hammered from all sides. Bin Laden??? Right. (maybe he’s in the Lincoln bedroom waiting to surrender)

Rovin on February 26, 2010 at 7:42 PM

“Yoicks! And away!”

[BONK!]

Rich Fader on February 26, 2010 at 7:42 PM

Legit question: What happened to the conjecture that if they tried reconciliation, the republicans could offer amendment after amendment, after amendment? Second legit question: Remember when some dem wanted to add an amendment (or something…dead brain cells…ah, those 1970′s!)and one of the ‘Pubs demanded that the bill be read in it’s entirety?
Don’t those Silly Wabbits have some twicks up their sweeves?
Am I that Clueless (again: great name for the 8th dwarf)?

I’m a heck of a lot more hopeful than I’ve been in the past. Despite their threats and posturing, I don’t think the clowns are going to get to hold onto the circus. For that, I thank the American people for rising up and deciding, “Hey, we have nothing to lose, let’s try this We the People chit and see where it gets us.”
I could go on about the public being complacent prior to this, but that’s not productive.
We are now energized, we are seeing real results from the push back, and I bet you other Hotairians aren’t going willing to let the blessed momentum we have achieved hit any kind of a wall: brick, marshmallow or otherwise.

Chewy the Lab on February 26, 2010 at 7:43 PM

Obama is on the verge (if he isn’t already over the cliff) of losing the consent of the governed.

Ordinary American on February 26, 2010 at 7:37 PM

He doesn’t care. He’s out to “transform America“.

That means he’ll do what ever it takes to pass his ideals into law no matter the consequences. He knows once something becomes law the likelihood of it getting repealed is remote.

We’ll have to march on Washington with guns and pitchforks to persuade a future Congress to undo the damage.

BacaDog on February 26, 2010 at 7:44 PM

So….

The President wants to use somthing against Senate rules, to forcibly pass a Bill which intrudes on the Freedom of the American People?

A process, which we have him on tape and video as saying is horrible?

The video Breitbart found needs to be made into a National TV commercial.

Romeo13 on February 26, 2010 at 7:44 PM

“We’ve had many weeks to contemplate where we are,” White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said…

Profound? I’m not sure what Gibbs could mean by that. So after several weeks of contemplation, the WH will choose the most assinine course. Who is Obama listening to?

DrStock on February 26, 2010 at 7:45 PM

They realized they are d@mned if they do, d@mned if they don’t, so they may as well ram it through.

John the Libertarian on February 26, 2010 at 7:45 PM

The fool is obsessed with his socialist healthcare manifesto and is becoming irrational. If you’re not afraid then you should get that way.

rplat on February 26, 2010 at 7:45 PM

That’s the thing, the whole bill is one large sausage of payoffs and buyouts that loosely hold together an incredible power grab over the private sector. The reason why they can’t “bit by bit” this thing is because the power the government wants can only be maintained if all those whom this bill protects (read Big Labor)are protected. But all that protection is only worth it for the government if they maintain the huge power grab this bill would provide. It’s all or nothing for all involved.
Weight of Glory on February 26, 2010 at 7:38 PM

VERY well and succinctly said!

marybel on February 26, 2010 at 7:45 PM

That summit had no effect and served no purpose. Everyone (who did see it) will forget it within a week and we will have the dems pushing their insane health scare, all over again – because the GOP participating in that fiasco lent more life to this insanity.

Maybe The Precedent will call for another summit and people will say that the GOP must go, to show that they have ideas and don’t want to obstruct the most un-American, un-Constitutional, destructive legislation to ever make its way through Congress … One more time, …

Never negotiate with terrorists. That is the rule that people should start remembering.

neurosculptor on February 26, 2010 at 7:46 PM

Obama mentioned something about getting this bill done in the next month or 6 weeks. The next Tea Party Express March on Washington is scheduled for April 15. That’s 7 weeks away.

I wish it could be rescheduled for March, but that’s just not possible. Hopefully, another million will show up in April to express our disgust with this fascist administration.

IrishEi on February 26, 2010 at 7:46 PM

Don’t despair, though

If he segues from the “Way Forward” to the “Great Leap Forward” I’ll be despairing and more.

Buy Danish on February 26, 2010 at 7:46 PM

For those who missed it, this is the best article to date regarding the road to reconciliation. I hope it’s all true.

http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2010/02/25/sen-conrad-the-house-goes-first-or-obamacare-dies-thank-you-senator-demint/

joejm65 on February 26, 2010 at 7:47 PM

I see Obowma on another “60 Minutes” infomercial in 5…4…3…2…

Seven Percent Solution on February 26, 2010 at 7:47 PM

Exit question: In light of how unpopular reconciliation is, why would Obama want to take the heat of being the one to formally declare it the “way forward”?

Do I have to explain his motivations to you, yet again?

It’s not about the legislation. It’s about sowing chaos in our nation and breaking our institutions.

neurosculptor on February 26, 2010 at 7:48 PM

If the Pubs are the Party of NO then how is the President able to list his accomplishments here?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/signed-legislation

CWforFreedom on February 26, 2010 at 7:48 PM

What part of “NO” don’t these fscists understand?

Keep your laws off my health care!

rbj on February 26, 2010 at 7:49 PM

Given all that, anyone want to inch out on the limb and make a prediction as to what the “way forward” will be?

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It will pass both houses with less than 49 percent, as a distraction Obama will have Biden do and say something idiotic in front of the camera’s that are filming the Zero signing it into law. The moment will go down in history according to the MSM as the day the Democrats Messiah took bold steps to insure equal rights for all. /Marxist wet dream
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RalphyBoy on February 26, 2010 at 7:50 PM

We’ll have to march on Washington with guns and pitchforks to persuade a future Congress to undo the damage.

BacaDog on February 26, 2010 at 7:44 PM


April 15
. Be there or be square.

IrishEi on February 26, 2010 at 7:51 PM

then it will signal a frightening shift in this administration that will have to be stopped by a completely united and principled GOP, as well as decent governors and state legislatures all across the U.S.

it’d be a defacto coup de main by the Marxists. they are going to force a redefinition of the social contract between the individual and the state.

at that point as Sanders has already said they can just “enact” anything they want because they’ll have effectively gotten rid of 1) The filibuster and 2) the Reconciliation rules “Byrd rule” which prohibit non budget items from being passed in this form.

This is a naked power grab and we need to resist it by all means possible.

we need to take the impunity with which they operate away from them.

take the impunity away, let them see that there will be increasing costs political and otherwise for their coup.

elduende on February 26, 2010 at 7:51 PM

This would assure a single term. How else could we repeal this monstrosity?

tommylotto on February 26, 2010 at 7:51 PM

The video Breitbart found needs to be made into a National TV commercial.

Romeo13 on February 26, 2010 at 7:44 PM

It sure would be nice if Steele threw some money in this direction instead of the nonsense he’s wasting the GOP’s money on currently. I might even donate to them in addition to direct-to-candidate donations if they had the balls to make a “quotes o’the Obammunist” series of commercials.

RachDubya on February 26, 2010 at 7:52 PM

ninjapirate on February 26, 2010 at 7:28 PM

So, fast-forward April 2010: MSNBC:

“This just in. President Obama just signed major health care reform into law after a long, protracted and often contentious battle in which he had to repeatedly fight off opponents while trying to do America’s work.
“As of now, we are delighted to report, each and every American will be entitled to a free hangnail removal…and the government will pay!”

See, we accomplished health care reform!

I was wondering what all the kerfluffle was about.

(We can only pray it turns out this way).

Chewy the Lab on February 26, 2010 at 7:52 PM

See, this is the same mentality that gets men lost while driving. No matter how many times they are told they are going the wrong way, not only will they not listen, they won’t ask for directions either.

milwife88 on February 26, 2010 at 7:53 PM

I’m slightly confused here. Wasn’t it just, yesterday that Obama ended the summit by saying there’d be a 4-6 weeks for discussion? If so, why announce something next week?

I wonder what the polling from the summit must look like if the White House is changing stance so quickly? What would they have announced if the Republicans had looked foolish, yersteray?

Maybe it’s me, but 2010′s laser focus on jobs sure seems like a lot of attention to health care.

jonkk on February 26, 2010 at 7:53 PM

Chewy the Lab on February 26, 2010 at 7:43 PM

You have to remember Chewy that a strong majority of the public has been against this bill even before the Nebraska two step. Only recently has some staffer convinced the Dems that if they did a poll proving that if the bill was broke into individual parts, the public is stupid enough to say they like it, (all the parts). Make any sense?

Rovin on February 26, 2010 at 7:53 PM

we need to Melt the Phones after the announcement

ginaswo on February 26, 2010 at 7:26 PM

Marching orders!

lovingmyUSA on February 26, 2010 at 7:55 PM

See, this is the same mentality that gets men lost while driving. No matter how many times they are told they are going the wrong way, not only will they not listen, they won’t ask for directions either.

milwife88 on February 26, 2010 at 7:53 PM

And don’t forget a woman will ask for directions the minute they see the county line.

Rovin on February 26, 2010 at 7:57 PM

Barry wants to turn America in Venezuela, where the majority rules, for life.

Reconciliation destroys the U.S. Senate.

A better idea might be to repeal the 17th Amendment and destroy the ‘Schumer seat’ of endless entitled, little emperoros. Give the Senate back to the States, take it away from the progressives. Stop the unfunded mandate racket.

tarpon on February 26, 2010 at 7:57 PM

I

see Obowma on another “60 Minutes” infomercial in 5…4…3…2…

Seven Percent Solution on February 26, 2010 at 7:47 PM

With O’reilly as his fair and balanced looking out for the folks supporter.

fourdeucer on February 26, 2010 at 7:58 PM

And don’t forget a woman will ask for directions the minute they see the county line.

Rovin on February 26, 2010 at 7:57 PM

Hey…I resemble that remark! :)

milwife88 on February 26, 2010 at 7:58 PM

I assume he thinks either (a) lending presidential authority to it could sway a few wavering Dems or (b) Reid and the Blue Dogs are in such dire straits with the midterms bearing down that he now has to start taking punches on their behalf to protect them. But even so, an uncharacteristic move from a guy who likes to vote present.

Or (c) Old Jedi Mind Trick

Kini on February 26, 2010 at 7:58 PM

To the barricades!

Fallen Sparrow on February 26, 2010 at 7:30 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6-5g78Nr6Q

lovingmyUSA on February 26, 2010 at 8:00 PM

I’m guessing he won’t be flying into Love Field to make this proclamation in Dallas.

Alden Pyle on February 26, 2010 at 8:01 PM

And it all had to be done by the end of last August.
That old hag Pelusi has gnawed her fingernails off.

They are looking for a paddle, and they aren’t up the creek yet.

Lincoln Cadillac on February 26, 2010 at 8:02 PM

Why didn’t he announce the way forward yesterday? Or last month? Gotta keep those moonbats strung along.

ddrintn on February 26, 2010 at 8:02 PM

With O’reilly as his fair and balanced looking out for the folks supporter.

fourdeucer on February 26, 2010 at 7:58 PM

BOR is a jackass.
obama anal poisoning does that to you….

HornetSting on February 26, 2010 at 8:03 PM

This

OmahaConservative on February 26, 2010 at 8:03 PM

IrishEi on February 26, 2010 at 7:46 PM

Won’t matter. They’re all a bunch of racist, white, male 1960′s narcissists. It’s “Mememememememememe, all about mememememememe, listen to me, mememememememe, passthebong.” They’re (we’re) a bunch of has-beens that think it is all about US.

This is why it is perfectly OK to flip the middle finger salute to the American people (and ignore the polls, when they served us so usefully in the past), and do what we know is best for these poor, brain dead, walking-randomly-in-the-wilderness people who don’t understand our wonderfulness. (Of course, we don’t hold this against them: they have been shnookered but good by the evil Bush/Cheney machine.)

Chewy the Lab on February 26, 2010 at 8:07 PM

Most of the time I don’t think they can get 51 but then I get an email for Bill Nelson D-FL who is so enamored with this hot mess that he’ll vote for it and lose his seat. It’s a hill worth dying on for him or at least it was when Florida was getting a special deal on Medicare.

Cindy Munford on February 26, 2010 at 8:08 PM

I hope the GOP is making plans now as to how to undo this should it happen and that GOP candidates make repeal a part of their campaigns.

DerKrieger on February 26, 2010 at 8:08 PM

Senator Conrad, the Chairman of the Senate Budget Committee said yesterday that reconciliation can only be used if the House passes the Senate bill first. As Sen. Conrad declared, “I don’t know of any way, I don’t know of any way where you can have a reconciliation bill pass before the bill that it is meant to reconcile passes.” Neither do I.

Then, the kicker: “When reminded that House Democrats don’t want to do health care in that order, Conrad said bluntly: ‘Fine, then it’s dead.‘

Now, the Speaker finds herself in the position of having to pass a bill she says she does not have the votes to pass.

Without passing the Senate bill she can’t pass, the Speaker can’t do reconciliation. (See Sen. Conrad, above.)

OK. Now, this next part is really, really important.

The Speaker and the White House find themselves in this position because of Senator DeMint (R-SC). He insisted that Senator McConnell object to the appointment of the House-Senate Conferees, thus preventing a Conference on the bill.

The inability of the Dems to have a House-Senate Conference then forced the Speaker to have a House floor vote on the Senate bill, which she can’t pass. And there the process has been stuck. Has not moved an inch since Sen. DeMint’s objection. It can’t, she does not have the votes.

The Speaker could fix the Senate bill on the House floor by amendment, then pass the Senate bill amended and fixed, but then it would have to go back to the Senate, where it would have to get 60 yes votes, or die. Since it will not get 60 votes ever again in the Senate, it will die — if the Speaker tries the amend the Senate bill on the House floor and send it back to the Senate route.

When Senator DeMint (R-SC) denied the Speaker the ability to fix the bill in Conference, he put the Speaker and the White House in their current box. If there had been a House-Senate Conference, then the House could have fixed the bill without a floor vote and the bill could have changed, without having to send it back to the Senate to face 60 vote margins.

But now, they can’t have a conference, and the Speaker and the White House must pass the unpassable Senate bill, in order to even try reconciliation.

When the Democrats finally admit ObamaCare is dead, historians should note, this is the single act that killed it. And it was such an artistic assassination of the bill.

Even with a city full of people watching the process, and who all saw the House and Senate Conference be denied, all the chattering heads and analysts did not understand what it meant, until it was too late.

Dan Perrin – Red State

joejm65 on February 26, 2010 at 8:08 PM

milwife88 on February 26, 2010 at 7:53 PM

OOOhhh! Girlfriend!

Chewy the Lab on February 26, 2010 at 8:09 PM

I don’t believe a word any Dem says. We know what they want…single payer. We know that they’ll do anything to get closer to their goal.

So the only question is..are there enough Dems to resist the cooertion, bribes, threats, cajoleing to sacrifice themselves for Obama. That’s it. Kinda a low point in our history IMHO

r keller on February 26, 2010 at 8:09 PM

Lamar Alexander yesterday:

“Now, in conclusion, I have a suggestion and a request for how to make this a bipartisan and truly productive session. And I hope that those who are here will agree I’ve got a pretty good record of working across party lines and of supporting the President when I believe he’s right, even though other members of my party might not on that occasion. And my request is this, is before we go further today, that the Democratic congressional leaders and you, Mr. President, renounce this idea of going back to the Congress and jamming through on a bipartisan — I mean, on a partisan vote through a little-used process we call reconciliation, your version of the bill. You can say that this process has been used before, and that would be right, but it’s never been used for anything like this. It’s not appropriate to use to write the rules for 17 percent of the economy. Senator Byrd, who is the constitutional historian of the Senate, has said that it would be an outrage to run the health care bill through the Senate like a freight train with this process.”

By using the last “respected senior democrat”, (after Kennedy’s passing), as an example of what could become a fierce battle by Senators in the weeks ahead, Alexander set the table for what the Democrats may be looking at if they use this procedure.

They can’t say they weren’t warned. Bring it!

Rovin on February 26, 2010 at 8:10 PM

You know, if Obama came to the end of the meeting yesterday and said… All right, I’ve heard the concerns. Fine. We’re going forward with Plan B, a lesser bulk package and a more moderate approach…

He would have saved the Democrat party for this election. Moderates and Independents would have sided with him over Republican “obstruction” at the cost of progressive, ultra-libs. But it would have saved his party.

And he didn’t. Which tells me, once again, he doesn’t have the political smarts.

Enoxo on February 26, 2010 at 8:12 PM

I hope the GOP is making plans now as to how to undo this should it happen and that GOP candidates make repeal a part of their campaigns

I don’t think this is possible until 2012. If Obama is reelected in 2012 then everything will stick. NHS, here we come.

r keller on February 26, 2010 at 8:12 PM

I foresee huge protests like the ones during the Viet Nam era.
Obama’s wanted to show the world how powerful he is, and he’ll start banging heads with his minions to do it.
I think there’s going to be war if he pushes this through.

Cybergeezer on February 26, 2010 at 8:12 PM

Alden Pyle on February 26, 2010 at 8:01 PM

heh heh

sonnyspats1 on February 26, 2010 at 8:13 PM

I keep thinking that what President Obama is looking for is a way out, rather than a way forward; this may be wishfull thinking on my part…

This is such a loser now, that the President can’t possibly want it tied to him. He’s worked so hard to keep a distance from the bills; letting the house and senate craft them; avoiding having his own proposal until the last minute; and finally producing a document that couldn’t be scored, or submitted as legislation.

Now, he’s setting up an exit strategy. Note that after the abject failure of yesterdays’ summit, the WH announce a rank and odious suggestion that the foreclosure process be stopped by executive order. This was an attempt to create a new outrage, and distract from the train wreck to come.

massrighty on February 26, 2010 at 8:13 PM

Most of the time I don’t think they can get 51
Cindy Munford on February 26, 2010 at 8:08 PM

The House has to pass the exact Senate version of HC before The Senate 51 becomes an issue. For the next few weeks, it’s all Nancy and the House…

joejm65 on February 26, 2010 at 8:14 PM

Exit question: In light of how unpopular reconciliation is, why would Obama want to take the heat of being the one to formally declare it the “way forward”?

120+ new government bureaucracies.

jukin on February 26, 2010 at 8:14 PM

Jennifer Ruben and John Podheretz on “Contentions” have good summaries of the dummy-crat mess.

Being a member of congress is a cushy job with lots of perks and privileges and opportunities for corruption and I don’t think that blue-dog members of the house will commit hari-kari just for the sake of the Anointed One.
At least I hope they won’t. But if they do, they are toast.

Dhuka on February 26, 2010 at 8:15 PM

Gee, I wonder what he’ll do.

Didn’t he already announce it…unless the Republicans bend to his will.

AUINSC on February 26, 2010 at 8:16 PM

HornetSting on February 26, 2010 at 7:38 PM

Thought the same thing as I was watching that–how could they not see how arrogant Obambi was–interrupting, monopolizing the meeting, being condenscending?

Too bad we couldn’t see them after the camera’s were turned off–they probably all had “Stupid” signs on their backs…

These are the kind of people that don’t remove the tags on mattresses for fear the government will come and take them away…

lovingmyUSA on February 26, 2010 at 8:17 PM

120+ new government bureaucracies.

jukin on February 26, 2010 at 8:14 PM

And all pledged Liberals and union lackeys.

Cybergeezer on February 26, 2010 at 8:17 PM

Rovin on February 26, 2010 at 7:53 PM

Appreciate the response very much…but I’m still axing the questions…what happened to offering endless amendments? Barring that, if they offer any amendments, what about the option of axing that the bill be read on the floor in it’s entirety?

I’m cereal…what am I missing?

Chewy the Lab on February 26, 2010 at 8:19 PM

And he didn’t. Which tells me, once again, he doesn’t have the political smarts.

Enoxo on February 26, 2010 at 8:12 PM

Or that he is indeed the radical Marxist that we all think he is.

They act with impunity because this is a zero sum game for them, they have an agenda and they will enact it at all costs whether people want it or not because they are not “democrats” despite their name.

their ideological underpinnings are totalitarian so their agenda is more important than democracy.

elduende on February 26, 2010 at 8:19 PM

neurosculptor on February 26, 2010 at 7:46 PM

Oh geez! Give it a rest! You were wrong!

Vince on February 26, 2010 at 8:19 PM

A process, which we have him on tape and video as saying is horrible?

The video Breitbart found needs to be made into a National TV commercial.

Romeo13 on February 26, 2010 at 7:44 PM

Pam Key of Naked Emperor News has been responsible for all those scathing videos.
Here is the collection:

http://nakedemperornews.com/

redridinghood on February 26, 2010 at 8:20 PM

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