Are you ready for the British tea party?

posted at 4:10 pm on February 26, 2010 by Allahpundit

Here’s their Facebook page, in case you’re in the UK this Saturday and up for a rally. A guest appearance by Thatcher would be rapturous, but alas, her health wouldn’t permit it. Instead they’ll have to make do with red-state America’s very favorite Tory in the whole wide world.

No doubt, even as we speak, the BBC is working hard on some Brit-flavored, sexually suggestive putdown a la “teabagger” to toss at them.

May I suggest “chipdipper”?

Some of my US readers believe that anti-tax rebellions are an American speciality, but we’ve had plenty of them in this country, from the Poll Tax Riots of 1381 (the Peasants’ Revolt) to the Poll Tax Riots of 1990. The doctrines that inspired the Boston mutineers – above all, the idea that taxes should not be levied without parliamentary process – were borrowed from English political theory…

Of course, there was an extra dimension to the Boston Tea Party: “No Taxation without Representation!” Taxes in the UK may be excessive but they have, so far, been set by our own government. This, though, is changing. If there was one theme that came out of the hearings for the new European Commissioners, it was their determination to create a direct revenue stream for the EU. Herman Van Rompuy, a declared enthusiast for the global managament of our planet, maintains that “recent developments in the euro area highlight the urgent need to strengthen our economic governance,” (hat-tip, Stephen Castle). “Whether it is called coordination of policies or economic government, only the European Council is capable of delivering and sustaining a common European strategy for more growth and more jobs.”

Yeah, it’ll be interesting to see how much the two movements diverge given the EU wild card and the fact that British taxes are much higher than ours. As I said last week after that nut flew his plane into the Austin IRS office, taxes have actually been a minor issue at American tea parties for the simple reason that the Democrats have been terrified of hiking them thus far. That’ll change eventually — although if the GOP takes back Congress, “eventually” may be a long way away — but for now, if you want rallies focused on meat-and-potatoes anti-tax populism, the Brits might be the better bet.

Can’t have a post about Hannan without the clip that made him internationally famous, so here you go. He sure does talk funny for a racist chipdippin’ redneck. Oh, and he’s no longer much of a fan of our glorious president, either. Go see why.

Update: A belated exit question from the comments: Is it too late for Britain? For years they’ve been struggling under an even heavier load of statism than Americans have. They may simply be … too exhausted to get this going.


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Love me some Hannan, but I don’t see this going anywhere. Hope I’m wrong. Bet I’m not.

S. Weasel on February 26, 2010 at 4:13 PM

If Hannan’s the guiding force this can’t be bad. Maybe some Britain’s want to try and pull their country out of the crapper before it goes completely down the drain.

BadgerHawk on February 26, 2010 at 4:13 PM

Best of luck to them! England is going beyond crazy; they might as well be using 1984 as a how-to manual!

Dark-Star on February 26, 2010 at 4:13 PM

Maybe they will un-ban Micheal Savage if they get into power?

nazo311 on February 26, 2010 at 4:13 PM

Go for it, Brits!

Emily M. on February 26, 2010 at 4:14 PM

The irony of the UK Tea Party is priceless. Cheers to my British cousins.

d1carter on February 26, 2010 at 4:15 PM

Hope it’s not too late for you guys, but get after it, go hard and don’t let up.

Fishoutofwater on February 26, 2010 at 4:15 PM

Do we have a domestic version of this cat?

daesleeper on February 26, 2010 at 4:16 PM

The British Tea Party movement.

I am overwhelmed by the irony, but if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. “Tea Party” probably polls better than Conservative and Labour at this point, so why the hell not?

KingGold on February 26, 2010 at 4:16 PM

King George Part Deux.

portlandon on February 26, 2010 at 4:18 PM

Love me some Hannan, but I don’t see this going anywhere. Hope I’m wrong. Bet I’m not.

S. Weasel on February 26, 2010 at 4:13 PM

Yeah, I don’t see them having the strength to throw tea away either. ;)

Emily M. on February 26, 2010 at 4:18 PM

He’s risking getting himself booted out of the party, too. Political parties are a lot stricter about, um…extracurricular activities here.

He’s careful not to directly undermine Cameron, but the two are completely different politically.

S. Weasel on February 26, 2010 at 4:18 PM

The English balance sheet of good deeds versus bad throughout history is way in favor of the former. Thank goodness it was England that was the powerhouse of the world prior to the USA.

Good luck England in saving yourself from yourself.

WashJeff on February 26, 2010 at 4:18 PM

Best of luck to them. Could France be next? Nah.

bopbottle on February 26, 2010 at 4:19 PM

Are you ready for the British tea party?

The question is, are they?

ncborn on February 26, 2010 at 4:19 PM

Best of luck to them. Could France be next? Nah.

bopbottle on February 26, 2010 at 4:19 PM

No, but possibly Germany.

SouthernGent on February 26, 2010 at 4:20 PM

The Brits never had the American brand of liberty. Our Constitution is a one-of-a-kind. Given their form of government, and that culturally they’re accustomed to socialism, I can’t see a Tea Party type movement gaining much steam over there.

orlandocajun on February 26, 2010 at 4:20 PM

Can’t have a post about Hannan without the clip that made him internationally famous, so here you go. He sure does talk funny for a racist chipdippin’ redneck. Oh, and he’s no longer much of a fan of our glorious president, either. Go see why.

The fact that he ever was a fan of Obama has always made me suspicious of him.

AUINSC on February 26, 2010 at 4:21 PM

That’s it! Two conservative bald guy posts in a row.

What’s the world coming to??

katy on February 26, 2010 at 4:21 PM

Be ready you Brits……..Go down that road and you will be exposed as RACISTS, Sub-Human, Homophobes, etc.

At least you don’t drive many pick-up trucks there….

Opposite Day on February 26, 2010 at 4:21 PM

Hee Haw! Oops, I mean, “bloody brilliant!”.

Buy Danish on February 26, 2010 at 4:22 PM

Didn’t Hannan support Obama and Ron Paul during campaign? Paul in primary, Obama during general?

jp on February 26, 2010 at 4:22 PM

That’s it! Two conservative bald guy posts in a row.

What’s the world coming to??

katy on February 26, 2010 at 4:21 PM

*ahem*

Weight of Glory on February 26, 2010 at 4:22 PM

Sorry but yeah, from what I read daily in the UK papers: the place is doomed. We should just nuke it and get it over with.

fivefeetoffury on February 26, 2010 at 4:25 PM

Doesn’t anyone else think it’s a little strange that the British would use the Tea Party as a symbol?

Scrappy on February 26, 2010 at 4:25 PM

Didn’t Hannan support Obama and Ron Paul during campaign? Paul in primary, Obama during general?

jp on February 26, 2010 at 4:22 PM

Yes. But not anymore

ConservativePartyNow on February 26, 2010 at 4:26 PM

A belated exit question from the comments: Is it too late for Britain? For years they’ve been struggling under an even heavier load of statism than Americans have. They may simply be … too exhausted to get this going.

I don’t see why it’s too late. They’re in the same mess we’re in. An overreaching, overspending government that’s out of money trying to hit up the taxpayers for more revenue when they’re already tapped out.

Doughboy on February 26, 2010 at 4:26 PM

It’s sad that the Brits probably know American history better than we do (collectively).

mankai on February 26, 2010 at 4:26 PM

That’s it! Two conservative bald guy posts in a row.

What’s the world coming to??

katy on February 26, 2010 at 4:21 PM

Sweet my hairline is on a pathway with destiny!!!!!

WashJeff on February 26, 2010 at 4:26 PM

A belated exit question from the comments: Is it too late for Britain?

It’s never too late for freedom for anybody.

crazy_legs on February 26, 2010 at 4:26 PM

Hannan….

mmmmmmmmm

Diane on February 26, 2010 at 4:27 PM

No, but possibly Germany.

SouthernGent on February 26, 2010 at 4:20 PM

Germany has a much different political and philosophical background than those latte sipping French cafe intellectuals or british lawyers.

ernesto on February 26, 2010 at 4:27 PM

Weight of Glory on February 26, 2010 at 4:22 PM

Sorry…
Follicley challenged

katy on February 26, 2010 at 4:27 PM

They may simply be … too exhausted to get this going.

Defibulators are getting really cheap. Supply one defibulator per 10 people and that should get them going.

WashJeff on February 26, 2010 at 4:28 PM

The Earl Greys are coming! The Earl Greys are coming!!

I don’t think the surly Islamic colonizers are going to go for this.

The dole is their jizyah from the infidels.

It would be against Allah’s will for the dhimmis to diminish it.

profitsbeard on February 26, 2010 at 4:28 PM

Didn’t Hannan support Obama and Ron Paul during campaign? Paul in primary, Obama during general?

jp on February 26, 2010 at 4:22 PM

Yep.

terryannonline on February 26, 2010 at 4:28 PM

Sorry…
Follicley challenged

katy on February 26, 2010 at 4:27 PM

Thank you.

Weight of Glory on February 26, 2010 at 4:29 PM

The fact that he ever was a fan of Obama has always made me suspicious of him.

AUINSC on February 26, 2010 at 4:21 PM

Suspicious of what? That he’s from Europe?

If you think what happened when America got swept up in Obama mania was bad, Europe actually thought he was elected King of the World. They are devastated by his rapid downfall, which is another reason Europe is such a crapshoot right now. They actually thought he was going to take care of their mortgage and their gas also.

uknowmorethanme on February 26, 2010 at 4:30 PM

WashJeff on February 26, 2010 at 4:26 PM

Bald, conservative and ballsy… it’s the new sexy!

katy on February 26, 2010 at 4:31 PM

Weight of Glory on February 26, 2010 at 4:29 PM

mmmmm…mmmmm…mmmmmm

katy on February 26, 2010 at 4:32 PM

No doubt, even as we speak, the BBC is working hard on some Brit-flavored, sexually suggestive putdown a la “teabagger” to toss at them.

Well they do like pudding a lot over there- have Ace call them for details.

Monica on February 26, 2010 at 4:32 PM

It’s worth noting that the first Tea Party was held by the British, too. There were no Americans yet — that was the point.

S. Weasel on February 26, 2010 at 4:33 PM

Bald, conservative and ballsy… it’s the new sexy!

katy on February 26, 2010 at 4:31 PM

Ed the sex symbol?

WashJeff on February 26, 2010 at 4:33 PM

It’s worth noting that the first Tea Party was held by the British, too. There were no Americans yet — that was the point.

S. Weasel on February 26, 2010 at 4:33 PM

Are u a Brit?

terryannonline on February 26, 2010 at 4:34 PM

Probability of actual tea party occurring during “Tea Party” demonstration: surprisingly high.

TheUnrepentantGeek on February 26, 2010 at 4:34 PM

It looks like a lot of Americans are posting notes of support on their facebook page. Hannon was on Beck’s radio show this morning and said he expected it to start small but hoped it gained momentum the way they did over here.

Monica on February 26, 2010 at 4:34 PM

I have a mad crush on Daniel Hannan now..that fiscal conservatism :)

ginaswo on February 26, 2010 at 4:35 PM

crazy_legs on February 26, 2010 at 4:26 PM

I agree! Never underestimate the power of people united. Just ask Louis XVI….

The desire for freedom knows no borders….

search4truth on February 26, 2010 at 4:35 PM

I’m an American living in Britain, terryann.

And I’m giving away an especially interesting British pudding to the lucky winner of my current DeadPool, which opened today (after the death of Al Haig closed the last one). Just saying.

S. Weasel on February 26, 2010 at 4:35 PM

And Hannon said they are drinking tea at their tea party.

Monica on February 26, 2010 at 4:35 PM

Knowing the Brits, they’ll have to bring alot of tea. And take several breaks.

Jimbo3 on February 26, 2010 at 4:36 PM

“Can’t have a post about Hannan without the clip that made him internationally famous, so here you go.”

If you want to treat yourself a little…

… play the clip again, but this time, imagine him talking like this to ‘Barry in Short Pants’.

Seven Percent Solution on February 26, 2010 at 4:36 PM

Ed the sex symbol?

WashJeff on February 26, 2010 at 4:33 PM

I smell a BAN HAMMER!!! LOL!

katy on February 26, 2010 at 4:37 PM

I’m an American living in Britain, terryann.

And I’m giving away an especially interesting British pudding to the lucky winner of my current DeadPool, which opened today (after the death of Al Haig closed the last one). Just saying.

S. Weasel on February 26, 2010 at 4:35 PM

–It’s not blood pudding, is it?

Jimbo3 on February 26, 2010 at 4:37 PM

Doesn’t anyone else think it’s a little strange that the British would use the Tea Party as a symbol?

Scrappy on February 26, 2010 at 4:25 PM

Not at all. Quite the contrary in fact…the first teapartiers were British, and it was, furthermore a protest against British taxation. I think it’s the perfect fit.

Chewy the Lab on February 26, 2010 at 4:37 PM

I smell a BAN HAMMER!!! LOL!

katy on February 26, 2010 at 4:37 PM

Funny you said that. As I was coming back to the thread and starting thinking the same thing, “Am I going to get the ban hammer for that one?”

WashJeff on February 26, 2010 at 4:39 PM

Doesn’t anyone else think it’s a little strange that the British would use the Tea Party as a symbol?

Scrappy on February 26, 2010 at 4:25 PM
Not at all. Quite the contrary in fact…the first teapartiers were British, and it was, furthermore a protest against British taxation. I think it’s the perfect fit.

Chewy the Lab on February 26, 2010 at 4:37 PM

-Yeah, but WE were the teapartiers (the ones who took their tea and dumped it into Boston Harbor) because of taxes. Bad dog, chewy.

Jimbo3 on February 26, 2010 at 4:39 PM

I’m an American living in Britain, terryann.

Cool. I wouldn’t mind moving to Britain. Happen to know any online boards for jobs in Britain?

terryannonline on February 26, 2010 at 4:40 PM

WashJeff on February 26, 2010 at 4:39 PM

Find a sexy pix of Ed and redemption is near my friend.

katy on February 26, 2010 at 4:40 PM

As the story goes, it was after the tea parties in Boston and and Delaware that many colonists began drinking coffee as an act of patriotism.

pugwriter on February 26, 2010 at 4:42 PM

That’s it! Two conservative bald guy posts in a row.

What’s the world coming to??

Bald is the new ghey.

Mike Honcho on February 26, 2010 at 4:42 PM

I smell a BAN HAMMER!!! LOL!

katy on February 26, 2010 at 4:37 PM
Funny you said that. As I was coming back to the thread and starting thinking the same thing, “Am I going to get the ban hammer for that one?”

WashJeff on February 26, 2010 at 4:39 PM

–My wife throws out/gives to charity my shirts she doesn’t like when I’m at work. I think she’d be itching to go through Ed’s closet from that picture.

Jimbo3 on February 26, 2010 at 4:42 PM

As the story goes, it was after the tea parties in Boston and and Delaware that many colonists began drinking coffee as an act of patriotism.

pugwriter on February 26, 2010 at 4:42 PM

First Freedom Fries, now Liberty Lattes?

Scrappy on February 26, 2010 at 4:43 PM

The Brits never had the American brand of liberty. Our Constitution is a one-of-a-kind. Given their form of government, and that culturally they’re accustomed to socialism, I can’t see a Tea Party type movement gaining much steam over there.

orlandocajun on February 26, 2010 at 4:20 PM

..mmmmmmm….presumably your history books began in 1776? But perhaps Magna Carta and the execution of Charles I by parliament passed you by. Government controlled indusries were all privatised by Maggie and trade union power was broken. Income tax is paid by most people here but you need also to compare local taxes and sales taxes. It’s a bit pointless for me to dispute the socialist idea since the myth too deeply ingrained in your head…but at least you didn’t suggest that the whole country was mooslim with a mosque on every corner…

callingallcomets on February 26, 2010 at 4:43 PM

They’re making it very hard to move to the UK from the US, terryann (I married my way in). Many visas have been eliminated entirely. There are a few professions that are sought after, mostly medical and social work. The best general board I know is http://talk.uk-yankee.com/ — though the politics there make my head explode.

S. Weasel on February 26, 2010 at 4:43 PM

Didn’t Hannan support Ron Paul during campaign?

jp on February 26, 2010 at 4:22 PM

Looks like someone didn’t buy the Palin and McCain Kool-Aid!

The Dean on February 26, 2010 at 4:44 PM

Doesn’t anyone else think it’s a little strange that the British would use the Tea Party as a symbol?

Scrappy on February 26, 2010 at 4:25 PM
Not at all. Quite the contrary in fact…the first teapartiers were British, and it was, furthermore a protest against British taxation. I think it’s the perfect fit.

Chewy the Lab on February 26, 2010 at 4:37 PM

-Yeah, but WE were the teapartiers (the ones who took their tea and dumped it into Boston Harbor) because of taxes. Bad dog, chewy.

Jimbo3 on February 26, 2010 at 4:39 PM

The original tea partiers were British subjects, not U.S. citizens. Just like Jesus was a Jew and not a Christian.

pugwriter on February 26, 2010 at 4:44 PM

Didn’t Hannan support Ron Paul during campaign?

jp on February 26, 2010 at 4:22 PM

Looks like someone didn’t buy the Palin and McCain Kool-Aid!

The Dean on February 26, 2010 at 4:44 PM

Hey Dean, why did you edit out Hannan’s support of Obama?

jp on February 26, 2010 at 4:47 PM

The original tea partiers were British subjects, not U.S. citizens. Just like Jesus was a Jew and not a Christian.

pugwriter on February 26, 2010 at 4:44 PM

That was excellent

katy on February 26, 2010 at 4:47 PM

This is from the headlines. It a bit daunting but I keep telling myself that there will be great signs nonetheless.

What Hannan’s talking about is basically an anti-EU party, but as one of his readers pointed out, we’ve already got one: it’s called the UK Independence Party. And UKIP only exists (and has done well in European and local elections) because the Tories don’t have the balls to campaign on a platform of taking back power from Brussels, despite polls showing that’s exactly what the British people want.

Europe and uncontrolled immigration are about the only two areas where the Tories could draw clear distinctions between themselves and Labour. But (Tory leader) David Cameron is too busy putting windmills on his house, fretting about global warming and trying to make the Tories look ‘nice’.

We have been royally screwed by Labour for 13 years, Gordon Brown is hugely unpopular, and yet the Tories only have a small lead approaching the general election (which will be in a few months at most).

So I don’t really see this going anywhere – but thanks you guys for the idea.

EnglishMike on February 26, 2010 at 10:24 AM

Cindy Munford on February 26, 2010 at 4:47 PM

I wish them the best of luck because they definitely have a long, hard slog ahead of them. 20% of all workers in the UK are employed by the government. The public sector workers earn on average 9.9% higher than their private sector counterparts. The UK health agency, NHS, recently was named the third largest employer in the world after the People’s Liberation Army of China and the Indian State Railways.

These facts do not lend themselves to a optimistic outcome for the UK.


Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon in front of them
  Volley’d and thunder’d;
Storm’d at with shot and shell,
Boldly they rode and well,
Into the jaws of Death,
Into the mouth of Hell
  Rode the six hundred.

chimney sweep on February 26, 2010 at 4:48 PM

The original tea partiers were British subjects, not U.S. citizens. Just like Jesus was a Jew and not a Christian.

pugwriter on February 26, 2010 at 4:44 PM

Yeah, but all the current British are the ones who were left after the tea partiers went off and made thier own country.

Scrappy on February 26, 2010 at 4:49 PM

Clotted creampuffs?

max1 on February 26, 2010 at 4:49 PM

They’re making it very hard to move to the UK from the US, terryann (I married my way in). Many visas have been eliminated entirely. There are a few professions that are sought after, mostly medical and social work. The best general board I know is http://talk.uk-yankee.com/ — though the politics there make my head explode.

S. Weasel on February 26, 2010 at 4:43 PM

Thanks. Appreciate it.

terryannonline on February 26, 2010 at 4:49 PM

It’s worth noting that the first Tea Party was held by the British, too. There were no Americans yet — that was the point.

S. Weasel on February 26, 2010 at 4:33 PM

And here I was getting all “proud to be an American” and stuff.

ncborn on February 26, 2010 at 4:50 PM

Hannan is on Fox News right now!

terryannonline on February 26, 2010 at 4:52 PM

It’s worth noting that the first Tea Party was held by the British, too. There were no Americans yet — that was the point.

S. Weasel on February 26, 2010 at 4:33 PM

The original tea partiers were British subjects, not U.S. citizens. Just like Jesus was a Jew and not a Christian.

pugwriter on February 26, 2010 at 4:44 PM

–Wasn’t the whole point of it for the people here to get the rest of the British out of here so the remaining ones could have their own country? Our founding fathers may have been British citizens, but they certainly weren’t acting like they were loyal subjects.

Jimbo3 on February 26, 2010 at 4:54 PM

If it makes you feel better, nc, the colonists had by this time (1773) begun referring to themselves as “Americans”. Nationalism, pride, and an independent spirit–not to mention the annoying presence of British troops–may have made a war for independence a “when” not “if” proposition.

But that’s hindsight. Who really knows?

pugwriter on February 26, 2010 at 4:57 PM

Hey Dean, why did you edit out Hannan’s support of Obama?

jp on February 26, 2010 at 4:47 PM

It’s easy to see where someone in England would think McCain was more likely to start war with Iran, which would have consequences all over the globe.

All I’m interested in is the GOP Primary.

The Dean on February 26, 2010 at 4:58 PM

Are you ready for the British tea party?

YES, & I THINK TO MAKE IT INTERESTING WE OUGHT TO HAVE A COMPETITION AND HAVE SOME KEEPING SCORE.

Competition you know like the free market and capitalism.

How many Progressives and Socialist etc…have they replaced in their government and what levels?

Let’s get a score card up, let’s have some betting, let’s have team names Should we be Lipton? They can be Earl Grey Constant Comment LOL!

Dr Evil on February 26, 2010 at 4:58 PM

Best of luck to them! England is going beyond crazy; they might as well be using 1984 as a how-to manual!

Dark-Star on February 26, 2010 at 4:13 PM

Funny: I’ve been reading 1984.

newton on February 26, 2010 at 4:58 PM

A belated exit question from the comments: Is it too late for Britain? For years they’ve been struggling under an even heavier load of statism than Americans have. They may simply be … too exhausted to get this going.

All a fire needs to get going is a spark.

RobertInLexington on February 26, 2010 at 4:59 PM

The main point was that George III was grievously over-milking them for taxes. No taxation without representation, and all that. The bulk of the people remained pretty loyal subjects right up until they weren’t.

I think that was a chapter in Barbara Tuchman’s March of Folly — how incredibly stupid handling lost a colony that was otherwise inclined to be loyal.

S. Weasel on February 26, 2010 at 5:00 PM

There is no England anymore.

nazo311 on February 26, 2010 at 5:01 PM

It’s easy to see where someone in England would think McCain was more likely to start war with Iran, which would have consequences all over the globe.

All I’m interested in is the GOP Primary.

The Dean on February 26, 2010 at 4:58 PM

ah yes, because it would be McCain “Starting war” as opposed to the Outlaws running the place now who started their regime on the basis of Declaring war against the USA?

and that means a conservative such as Hannan should support a Marxist like Obama or a loon like paul

jp on February 26, 2010 at 5:02 PM

the short answer is ‘no’, it will never amount to real political action or anti-big govt activism in Britan, of the tea part kind, AP is right about it…Besides, the govt’s already too big there :-), to downsize it effectively, it would be way too painful for most Brits and I don’t think they are ready to accept that kind of sacrifice…so, nothing they can really do about at this point…I lived in the UK for 7 years before moving to the US (Air Force globe trotters :) and I can tell you for sure there’s no apetite there for a serious grass roots political challenge of the govt ways…Brits have been ‘brainwashed’ and ‘tamed’ into an unhealthy brand of submission which is sad and rather bizarre if you think of the former Empire (or maybe just the natural expression of its decline…). At this point, sadly they only care about their weekend binge drinking and wild weekend escapes to cheaper European countries (like Spain and Greece) where they go and drink themselves into oblivion to the despair and shock of the local population…I guess at this point drinking is the only anaesthetic that might be actually working for poor Brits :-(…

jimver on February 26, 2010 at 5:03 PM

It’s worth noting that the first Tea Party was held by the British, too. There were no Americans yet — that was the point.

S. Weasel on February 26, 2010 at 4:33 PM

The original tea partiers were British subjects, not U.S. citizens. Just like Jesus was a Jew and not a Christian.

pugwriter on February 26, 2010 at 4:44 PM

–Wasn’t the whole point of it for the people here to get the rest of the British out of here so the remaining ones could have their own country? Our founding fathers may have been British citizens, but they certainly weren’t acting like they were loyal subjects.

Jimbo3 on February 26, 2010 at 4:54 PM

In my reading it seems that very few, if any, of the founders wanted to be founders. They had things very good in the colonies. They were, compared to the British Isles,
UNDERTAXED. It was because the Brits needed to pay for the seven years war/French and Indian War that they decided it was time for the colonists to pay their fair share. things started getting dicey from that point on.

pugwriter on February 26, 2010 at 5:03 PM

The main point was that George III was grievously over-milking them for taxes. No taxation without representation, and all that. The bulk of the people remained pretty loyal subjects right up until they weren’t.

I think that was a chapter in Barbara Tuchman’s March of Folly — how incredibly stupid handling lost a colony that was otherwise inclined to be loyal.

S. Weasel on February 26, 2010 at 5:00 PM

Here’s an interesting factoid: England paid higher taxes than France during the reign of William and Queen Anne and the “Glorious Revolution”. A good bit more.

of course they were building a great empire as opposed to Social Engineering with it.

jp on February 26, 2010 at 5:04 PM

I think she’d be itching to go through Ed’s closet from that picture.

Jimbo3 on February 26, 2010 at 4:42 PM

We are lucky Ed’s on his break time.

WashJeff on February 26, 2010 at 5:08 PM

-Yeah, but WE were the teapartiers (the ones who took their tea and dumped it into Boston Harbor) because of taxes. Bad dog, chewy.

Jimbo3 on February 26, 2010 at 4:39 PM

My point exactly. And when “We” did it (Hey, I’m old, but not that old), “we” were still British subjects.
Good dog! Wag wag wag.

Chewy the Lab on February 26, 2010 at 5:09 PM

A belated exit question from the comments: Is it too late for Britain?

I think you are forgeting the historic English Stoicism.

They don’t appear to get mad… they don’t show it… but quietly, and competently, kick tail.

Think of London, and the Blitz.

Think of Wellington and Waterloo… (where if he had even for a second lost is nerve, they would have lost).

The Brits, even more than we Americans, have been educated out of the idea that they have power… that they have a choice… lets see what happens when they wake up to their own strength.

Romeo13 on February 26, 2010 at 5:11 PM

Sorry. Jimbo’s post @4:39 tic-ed me off somethin’ fierce, so I skipped ahead to respond, not realizing y’all were out in force making my point for me. Thanks!
(Had to handle a work emergency for about 40 minutes and was away from the ‘puter.)

Chewy the Lab on February 26, 2010 at 5:14 PM

Since the original Boston Tea Party was British subjects (in the American colonies) protesting excessive taxation from an unelected faraway power, and the British are now protesting excessive taxation from an unelected European Commission, there could be some parallels that could make this movement catch on.

It is a bit ironic that the idea of the original Tea Party AGAINST Britain would now be used BY Britain, but stranger things have happened. Who could have guessed in 1942 that the United States would now be allies with Germany, Japan, and Italy?

Wonder if the British Tea Partiers will also protest against Obama’s dissing of Britain in the Falklands?

Steve Z on February 26, 2010 at 5:14 PM

I think she’d be itching to go through Ed’s closet from that picture.

Jimbo3 on February 26, 2010 at 4:42 PM
We are lucky Ed’s on his break time.

WashJeff on February 26, 2010 at 5:08 PM

–I know. I had several like that one. They mysteriously disappeared one day….

Jimbo3 on February 26, 2010 at 5:15 PM

besides, even if the Tories win in England, David Cameron is no Thatcher, but more of a girly Schwarzenegger, so a RINO in other words…no clue if they have a term for that in England :-)…but since there’s not much difference between their conservative and labour party currently any obsessing over nuances would be lost on them really…

jimver on February 26, 2010 at 5:17 PM

Our founding fathers may have been British citizens, but they certainly weren’t acting like they were loyal subjects.

Jimbo3 on February 26, 2010 at 4:54 PM

And this means we have a corner on the teaparty schtick???
Haven’t you ever heard that imitation is the greatest form of flattery?
I say you go Brits! They are so uber-taxed, the response may make the crowd in Washington on Labor Day look like a code pink rally, only with better hair.

Chewy the Lab on February 26, 2010 at 5:18 PM

In the interest of building camaraderie, are the American Tea Party and the UK Tea Party considering staging a series of home-and-home sports competitions?

ya2daup on February 26, 2010 at 5:23 PM

besides, even if the Tories win in England, David Cameron is no Thatcher, but more of a girly Schwarzenegger, so a RINO in other words…no clue if they have a term for that in England :-)…but since there’s not much difference between their conservative and labour party currently any obsessing over nuances would be lost on them really…

jimver on February 26, 2010 at 5:17 PM

So that would make him a “TINO?” (Tory in name only?)

Chewy the Lab on February 26, 2010 at 5:24 PM

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