Shhh: Democrats move to ban “cruel, inhuman, and degrading” interrogations of detainees

posted at 7:15 pm on February 25, 2010 by Allahpundit

I’d rather see Obama simply appoint Andrew Sullivan “Heart-ache Czar” and let him give thumbs up or thumbs down to various interrogation techniques as he sees fit (hint: it’s always thumbs down), but credit where it’s due: This idea is even more arbitrary and irresponsible than mine. No small accomplishment.

There is great ambiguity over what constitutes “cruel, inhuman, and degrading” treatment. And the Act does nothing to clear up this gray area. The Act specifies certain techniques the Democrats think should be off limits, but those techniques are not clearly defined. For example, the Democrats want “prolonged isolation” to be criminalized as an interrogation technique. But “prolonged isolation” is not defined further and could be interpreted any number of ways.

In the criminal justice system, it is worth remembering, solitary confinement is typically used as a disciplinary tool. Here, in the interrogation context, it may very well rise to the level of “torture” under the Democrats’ open-ended phrase “prolonged isolation.”

The same goes for “depriving the individual of necessary food, water, sleep, or medical care.” Where does one draw the line on the amount of “necessary” sleep? Let’s say interrogators are questioning a detainee late into the night, and he says he is tired and wants to go to sleep. Are interrogators supposed to stop questioning him – even if they think he has timely, actionable intelligence on an impending attack? Is 6 hours of sleep per night sufficient, or do detainees need 8?

The Act prohibits interrogators from “[e]xploiting phobias of the individual.” But federal authorities threatened to place Najibullah Zazi’s mother in jail as a coercive measure to induce cooperation. While this was perhaps not one of Zazi’s “phobias,” it certainly was something that caused him great fear – enough reportedly to get him to cooperate. What constitutes a “phobia?”

That’s from Steve Hayes and Tom Joscelyn, who go on to say that the law will “surely cause confusion for interrogators.” But that’s the point, isn’t it? The more confused they are, the more they’ll err on the side of caution and the less likely it is that Democrats will be pestered with having to defend any questionable tactics used by the CIA. In fact, it gets better: According to Andy McCarthy, the bill states that prohibited conduct “includes but is not limited to” the procedures specified in the act, so an interrogator might run afoul of the law even if he avoids all of the forbidden techniques. The penalty if he does? 15 years in prison.

Whether it’s because he’s worried about the political backlash now that righty pundits have raised the alarm about this (Liz Cheney issued a statement, natch) or because he’s genuinely opposed to it on the merits, The One will have you know that he does not support this bill:

The White House isn’t happy; they’ve already threatened to veto the bill because it, in their mind, it infringes upon the rights of the executive branch by forcing the administration to disclose more about intelligence operations to more members of Congress — Section 321. (Obama, like previous presidents, believes that the executive branch possesses the sole authority to decide what national security information is and how to protect it.) The administration also has reservations about the prohibition on giving American authorities overseas the option to read captured terrorists Miranda rights.

An administration official said that the White House “did not coordinate with Congress on the manager’s amendment.”

Why would Captain Transparency have a problem sharing intel with Congress? And why wouldn’t he want a hard and fast list of prohibited interrogation procedures codified? Sure, it would tie his hands by forcing him to follow congressional statutes during detainee questioning instead of the sort of executive orders that he can lift or amend as he sees fit, but that’s one of the left’s big problems with John Yoo, isn’t it? If you leave the president alone to set his own procedures, he and his legal team could end up condoning “torture.” So why the reluctance now to impose legislative oversight?

Incidentally, a House source tells Byron York that the bill was written “without committee review and without any feedback or input from the CIA.” Wonderful. Exit question via McCarthy: Why did the Dems try to slip this in now? Did they really think it would fly under the radar just because everyone was busy watching Masterpiece Theater today?


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Where does one draw the line on the amount of “necessary” sleep?

If you ask my nephew, 20 hours seems to be necessary.

4 hours of eating and texting.

barnone on February 25, 2010 at 7:20 PM

The Act prohibits interrogators from “[e]xploiting phobias of the individual.”

New terrorist manual. Just pick a few and sue!

Weight of Glory on February 25, 2010 at 7:21 PM

Unless he/she is being detained in a womb.

davidk on February 25, 2010 at 7:21 PM

“includes but is not limited to” – total legalese BS. Never sign anything that has this phrase in it.

And “degrading”? You gotta be kidding me. Jihadists and liberals find everything that is good and just to be degrading.

forest on February 25, 2010 at 7:22 PM

The phrase “void for vagueness” comes to mind.

Meric1837 on February 25, 2010 at 7:22 PM

And my nephew has a phobia about being away from his cell phone and not text. So that means he would get to keep it during his interview?

barnone on February 25, 2010 at 7:22 PM

Here’s a good one:

Eleutherophobia- Fear of freedom.

Weight of Glory on February 25, 2010 at 7:23 PM

I know that when my commanders give me ridiculously vague orders it always makes it easier to accomplish my mission.

BadgerHawk on February 25, 2010 at 7:25 PM

Who the heck voted to put these nutcases in charge of our country?

pedestrian on February 25, 2010 at 7:25 PM

In other words, more ambiguity that appeases liberals but can actually be exploited when crap hits the fan.

Washington as usual.

amerpundit on February 25, 2010 at 7:26 PM

I imagine sitting in jail must be pretty ‘degrading’.

clement on February 25, 2010 at 7:26 PM

Hey Allahpundit,

Check this out…..

portlandon on February 25, 2010 at 7:27 PM

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2010/02/bush-and-cheney-reunite-first-since-leaving-office.html

Bush and Cheney back together. I miss them.

deidre on February 25, 2010 at 7:29 PM

Dam, I aways thought Boot Camp was torture…

Now the Dems will make it legaly so…

Romeo13 on February 25, 2010 at 7:29 PM

Just kill them!

Who, the terrorists?

Well, if you insist.

OldEnglish on February 25, 2010 at 7:31 PM

This actually criminalizes putting hoods on detainee’s heads–WHICH IS REQUIRED as part of the GENEVA CONVENTIONS for protecting identities of POWs.

Ingrates.

Enoxo on February 25, 2010 at 7:31 PM

Al Qaeda and the Taliban have to be HUMAN first before it can be inhuman treatment.

There is no humanity left in them.

William Amos on February 25, 2010 at 7:31 PM

Ambiguous law is dangerous. It will be used political.

the_nile on February 25, 2010 at 7:32 PM

I don’t know how anyone in our military or intelligence services can vote Democrat.

WisCon on February 25, 2010 at 7:32 PM

Just WHO were the Democrats who wrote this bill?

GarandFan on February 25, 2010 at 7:32 PM

New terrorist manual. Just pick a few and sue!

Weight of Glory on February 25, 2010 at 7:21 PM

Claustrophobia seems too obvious. How about hypnophobia (fear of sleep)?

Let them sleep, and you’re exploiting a phobia. Prevent them and you’re depriving them of sleep.

malclave on February 25, 2010 at 7:33 PM

Any prisoner in any county jail in the U.S. is treated WORSE than are prisoners in Gitmo.

This reminds me of the very serious bill to make it a Federal crime to shoot an intruder in your home, offered by collectivists a few decades ago. Trouble is, this one has more chance of passing into law.

Suicide is NOT painless. This is a step toward national suicide.

Ragspierre on February 25, 2010 at 7:35 PM

It will send a message to the Jihadys!!

And soon,the DNC,will be registering
them as Democrats,er,DEMONcrats!

canopfor on February 25, 2010 at 7:35 PM

I’d rather see Obama simply appoint Andrew Sullivan “Heart-ache Czar” and let him give thumbs up or thumbs down to various interrogation techniques as he sees fit (hint: it’s always thumbs down)

It won’t be thumbs down if he’s thinking about Sarah’s female junk.

platypus on February 25, 2010 at 7:35 PM

Let them sleep, and you’re exploiting a phobia. Prevent them and you’re depriving them of sleep.

malclave on February 25, 2010 at 7:33 PM

Oh! I like that.

Weight of Glory on February 25, 2010 at 7:35 PM

Just so y’all know, the imbecilic algorithm blocks v@g!na.

When is anybody in authority going to put a stop to this stupidity? We aren’t children and we’d choose to be orphans if we had parents like AP and Ed.

platypus on February 25, 2010 at 7:39 PM

As a graduate of “S.E.R.E.” training, I say “The tougher, the better!” As a matter of fact, I’m all for locking them in a room with Nancy Pelosi!

Star20 on February 25, 2010 at 7:44 PM

In a culture that stones girls for holding hands with the neighbor boy, it’s sort of hard to get their attention by just taking away their soft pillow, and giving them a lumpy pillow.

RBMN on February 25, 2010 at 7:44 PM

“Masterpiece Theater has suddenly become an advocate for all things gay…”

Seven Percent Solution on February 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM

So this means waterboarding is still allowed, correct?

Notorious GOP on February 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM

Just WHO were the Democrats who wrote this bill?

GarandFan on February 25, 2010 at 7:32 PM

I don’t know, but I have a feeling Dick Durbin was involved.

SoulGlo on February 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM

O/T:

The house voted to renew the patriot act. Now it goes to Obama to sign.

Joe Caps on February 25, 2010 at 7:49 PM

The Dems got these marching orders from today’s NY Times editorial.

Del Dolemonte on February 25, 2010 at 7:49 PM

And what are we supposed to do?!? Serve them Starbucks?!?

newton on February 25, 2010 at 7:51 PM

BadgerHawk on February 25, 2010 at 7:25 PM

Yeah, same here. Nebulous orders make it much easier to give my commander what he wants. Vietnam anyone?

/s

alohapundit on February 25, 2010 at 7:51 PM

The house voted to renew the patriot act. Now it goes to Obama to sign.

Joe Caps on February 25, 2010 at 7:49 PM

Better check the fine print…

Romeo13 on February 25, 2010 at 7:52 PM

If we do to them what they did to others is that still considered degrading them?

ConservativeTony on February 25, 2010 at 7:53 PM

Al Qaeda and the Taliban have to be HUMAN first before it can be inhuman treatment.

There is no humanity left in them.

William Amos on February 25, 2010 at 7:31 PM

The democrats assign their humanity even to the point of elevating their rights to that of an ordinary citizen.

fourdeucer on February 25, 2010 at 7:54 PM

That whuppin Barry got today.
Cruel or unusual?

katy the mean old lady on February 25, 2010 at 7:54 PM

Let’s see…

Allegedly, Eric Holder made the decision on his own to try KSM in NYC on his own.

According to Fox News, the dems allegedly didn’t tell BHO about this proposed bill.

What are a president’s responsbilities again?

madmonkphotog on February 25, 2010 at 7:56 PM

Just wait until we give them the ‘silent treatment’…

Start the War Crimes NOW!!!

Seven Percent Solution on February 25, 2010 at 8:00 PM

katy,
I have a feeling the wh bedroom is gonna be a tiny bit frosty tonight. Our mo is probably ticked!
L

letget on February 25, 2010 at 8:00 PM

Notice how we’re not getting new prisoners?

Now, we are being more “humane” and just killing them with Predator strikes.

I hope it has helped our image in the world.

Star20 on February 25, 2010 at 8:03 PM

<blockquoteletget on February 25, 2010 at 8:00 PM

I think he hasn’t gotten any since Ja. She’s the brain in that outfit.

katy the mean old lady on February 25, 2010 at 8:04 PM

OT….O’Rielly stating nObama did a good job today!!!

dmann on February 25, 2010 at 8:05 PM

What the F*CK is wrong with these people? Are they really this F*CKING STUPID?
Do they believe it was cruel and unusual punishment for the people in the planes that were used as human bombs, for the people working in the WTC and Pentagon, for the people fighting for their lives on Flight 93, for the fire fighters and police officers that tried to save lives that day, only to lose their own, for the widows, widowers, children, parents, siblings of those who died that day?
I am about DONE with this bullsh*t!
THESE F*CKING LIMP WRISTED, PANTY WAIST, WASTE OF GOOD AIR F*CKTARDS NEED TO GO! NOW!

HornetSting on February 25, 2010 at 8:05 PM

OT….O’Rielly stating nObama did a good job today!!!

dmann on February 25, 2010 at 8:05 PM

BOR has obama anal poisoning.

HornetSting on February 25, 2010 at 8:06 PM

I only watch O’Reilly for the guests he has on. I wish he would shut up more, but he is almost as arrogant as Barry.

Star20 on February 25, 2010 at 8:09 PM

I’m all for locking them in a room with Nancy Pelosi!

Good gawd, man…!!! Have you NO humanity…?!?!?!?

Ragspierre on February 25, 2010 at 8:10 PM

Put them in a room with Obama and his trusty teleprompter and they’ll be ready to spill their guts after about three hours of his hectoring happy horsesh*t.

LET’S CALL THIS PLAN BY ITS TRUE NAME:

How To Lose a World War Against Conscienceless Psychopathic Monsters“.

Barry and his boobs are going to get many, many of our people killed with their brainless, feckless follies.

profitsbeard on February 25, 2010 at 8:11 PM

katy,
If that is the case, no wonder this bho is such a nasty person.
L

letget on February 25, 2010 at 8:12 PM

The democrats are totally insane, they hear voices which are not those of the American people. Going Galt will not be enough, the time for an armed insurrection fast approaches!

dmann on February 25, 2010 at 8:12 PM

Hoekstra tweets that the bill’s been pulled.

MayBee on February 25, 2010 at 8:13 PM

I’m all for locking them in a room with Nancy Pelosi!

Good gawd, man…!!! Have you NO humanity…?!?!?!?

Ragspierre on February 25, 2010 at 8:10 PM

Ok…which is worse: Nancy Pelosi or Hillary Clinton speeches blared into their cell?

HornetSting on February 25, 2010 at 8:13 PM

Ok…which is worse: Nancy Pelosi or Hillary Clinton speeches blared into their cell?

Sorta like a choice between being skinned alive or drawn and quartered.

Paging Mr. Hobson…

Ragspierre on February 25, 2010 at 8:16 PM

This is surreal. The 8th Amendment prohibits “cruel and inhuman” treatment and the words used here will clearly be read in that light. But then these nutjobs go one further and add “demeaning” treatment. They have actually given not just constitutional 8th amendment right to terrorists, they have gone beyond that and given them more, with a right to be free from “demeaning” treatment, whatever that may mean.

I guess there will be no more trying to break the Eunuchbomber with fat jokes about his mother.

Wolf Howling on February 25, 2010 at 8:17 PM

As a graduate of “S.E.R.E.” training, I say “The tougher, the better!” As a matter of fact, I’m all for locking them in a room with Nancy Pelosi!

Star20 on February 25, 2010 at 7:44 PM

hudder…. reming me not to get on your bad side.

katy the mean old lady on February 25, 2010 at 8:17 PM

BO talking ove Laura Ingrahm……why see puts up with this crap is unexplained. BO saying the republicans are being unfair to not offer compromise…….F Bill, I’ll never watch another minute!!!!! Still saying Obama did an ok job, in fact a good job!!!!

dmann on February 25, 2010 at 8:17 PM

what spelling! shudder, remind

sorry

katy the mean old lady on February 25, 2010 at 8:18 PM

…the bill states that prohibited conduct “includes but is not limited to” the procedures specified in the act, so an interrogator might run afoul of the law even if he avoids all of the forbidden techniques. The penalty if he does? 15 years in prison.

It would seem that the Department of Defense has been entrusted to Secretary Lewis Carroll…for we’ve certainly gone through the Looking Glass once again.

…once again, as in Indochina, we’re at war with one arm tied behind out back…this time, however, it seems to me more and more that we’ve got a feather duster in the other hand…we’ll tickle the bad guys out of their spiderholes, read them their rights, and give them tickets…and let them toddle off to try again…if at first you don’t succeed….

…in the first place,our rules of engagement on the battlefields on which these animals are captured are transforming combat into a courtroom…commanders have actually had to consult lawyers before openning fire!

…the trouble is that, day by day, we’re showing the bad guys know how to beat us…with line-and-block charts, neat crossreferencing, with coffee and doughnuts gratis….

They can’t beat us militarily, not even in intelligence, with their ear in every wall. They can’t out shoot, out move, our out communicate us. They can beat us the same way Ngyen and Trang did back in the jungles of 1968…by allowing our media and our elected bozos (and their staffs) to do their fighting for us.

All they have to do is hide amongst their noncombattant families (or some other schoe’s noncombattant family…the result’s the same), and let it be known that our forces had to plow through a few layers of women and children to find their “fighters” hiding among their skirts (sometimes, even, in those skirts themselves)…

…then, *YAHTZEE!*, you’ve got a dandy war-crime headline, and you can count on cries resounding from the throats of the protected to have those among our forces responsible hung up by their short and curlies.

Things have degenerated to the point where it’s our troops who’re expendable…they blow theirs up in ones and twos, we allow ours to be drug through courts martial for years…same thing…combattants out of action, while their comrades learn a valuable lesson.

The bad guys learn where we’re vulnerable, the better to send in another of their number with a dynamite belt. Our guys learn that they’ve been hung out to dry.

If we wish to win — which I’ll define here as scaring the bad guys sufficiently that they’ll consider staying at home, getting jobs and actually building their country rather than striking ours — we need to fight the Taliban, Al Qaeda and all other comers in the region the way we fought not the Viet Cong, but the way we fought the Japanese. Sucks to be a civilian in the way, but get the bloody civilians out of the way or it’ll suck even worse.

As to those combattants who are lucky enough to be thought valuable to allow to survive — which means that it’ll also suck to be the Taliban version of Pvt. Gomer Pyle — we need to remember that they were allowed to live to provide information…and we should squeeze ‘em until, like a used tube of toothpaste, they’ve given up all they have, all their friends, and any lottery numbers they may know. Battlefield information saves lives…including the lives of the loved ones of those interrogated.

…but, in the Age of Obama, where we’re governed by those whose starkest life decision has been whether to take a year off before graduate school to go skiing in Vail or which smart phone’ll make ‘em look the coolest. On the flipside, we’re once again up against folks who’ve spent their lives living a smidge closer to where the rubber meets the road, and decisions there are more on the order of “which child do I feed today” or “can I tell my tribal chieftain no he can’t have my son for a ‘martyrdom’ mission without risking my other kids”.

The hands on the tiller of our ship of state belong to someone for whom life is theoretical and can be argued with, whose nails are neatly manicured and whose hair is properly moussed…and we are up against folks who’re a great deal more mature than that.

If you have kids in the military, as my wife and I do; if you have a wife who spent her adult life in the military, as I do; and if you yourself spent too many of your prime years and most of the cartilage in your knees in the military, as I did; and if you came into that military at the tail-end of the Vietnam debacle, and saw how the gutted the institutions of the officer and NCO corps were, as I did; and you see what’s happening all over again day after day today under a “surrender is the first option” regime as we currently have, where war is a distraction from the real business of socializing healthcare….

…well, if you have all that going for you, you might be excused for blaspheming….

Puritan1648 on February 25, 2010 at 8:19 PM

Star20 on February 25, 2010 at 7:44 PM

Wait a minute…assuming you were waterboarded, shouldn’t you be suing the federal government for torturing you? Demanding prosecution of everyone who knew you were going to be waterboarded as part of “training” (nefarious code if I’ve ever heard it)? Get busy, man!

DrMagnolias on February 25, 2010 at 8:19 PM

katy the mean old lady on February 25, 2010 at 8:18 PM

Your perfect sweatheart!

dmann on February 25, 2010 at 8:20 PM

The 8th Amendment prohibits “cruel and inhuman” treatment

Not to quibble, but I think it says “cruel and unusual punishment” and clearly addresses criminal penalties.

Historically, terrorists are NOT criminals. They are a class of people utterly outside the law.

And interrogation is not punishment…criminal or otherwise. It is the means to obtain information that fosters national security.

Ragspierre on February 25, 2010 at 8:20 PM

I guess there will be no more trying to break the Eunuchbomber with fat jokes about his mother.

Wolf Howling on February 25, 2010 at 8:17 PM

…you’re Mom’s so far…(how fat is she?)…that we could actually see it through her burka….

*RIMSHOT*

Puritan1648 on February 25, 2010 at 8:21 PM

How about we just have our Justice Department lawyers give big sloppy kisses prior to fellating every terrorist we catch?

I mean, officially this time.

That will make them talk or at least express themselves some other way.

NoDonkey on February 25, 2010 at 8:24 PM

Will this apply to press conferences too ?

Jeff2161 on February 25, 2010 at 8:26 PM

DrMagnolias on February 25, 2010 at 8:19 PM,

Never waterboarded, but I lost about 20 pounds, could hardly walk for a couple of weeks because my legs were cramped from being freezing cold at night and baked during the day. I was slapped around, put into a small box, passed out from exhaustion and listened to my throat making involuntary noises because I needed food and water.

Thank God they never put panties on my head or had a woman put me on a leash. I would have cracked, for sure.

Star20 on February 25, 2010 at 8:27 PM

By now the most uneducated barbarian in the deepest darkest corner of the most desolate cave has a better understanding of our ROE than the majority of Americans. They probably have better access to defense attorneys than our own military.

fourdeucer on February 25, 2010 at 8:29 PM

Oh no . . . if we degrade the terrorists, how will our Republic survive??

We’d better ban bullying, embarrassing or annoying the terrorists while we’re at it.

Otherwise the terrorists win.

Ken McCracken on February 25, 2010 at 8:30 PM

fourdeucer on February 25, 2010 at 8:29 PM

Rest assured Major Hasan has the best counsel possible.

To save his worthless crippled ass from the firing squad, unfortunately.

NoDonkey on February 25, 2010 at 8:30 PM

The REAL interesting conversation on this action will come in the days following our next attack.

Star20 on February 25, 2010 at 8:31 PM

We have absolute, undiluted, deep seated, unrepentant, dim wits and fools running this country at present. Beginning with the WH and working their way through the Legislature and probably even down to the maintenance folks. No one is in touch with reality. I’ve lived too long when I have to unequivocally state that my President is an ass!

jeanie on February 25, 2010 at 8:32 PM

If the jihadi terrorists laugh to death at our weakness and stupidity, is that considered “cruelty“, too?

Someone needs to ask Barry before this insanity is implemented.

profitsbeard on February 25, 2010 at 8:34 PM

In a culture that vaunts “the strong horse”…

we seem to be determined to present a pink, perfumed and powdered ewe…

in heat…

backing up…

Ragspierre on February 25, 2010 at 8:38 PM

NoDonkey on February 25, 2010 at 8:30 PM

Janet Napolitano finally came around to calling Major Hassan’s attack a terrorist act, now he will be getting extra special terrorist comfort and aid.

fourdeucer on February 25, 2010 at 8:39 PM

We have absolute, undiluted, deep seated, unrepentant, dim wits and fools running this country at present.

jeanie on February 25, 2010 at 8:32 PM

Fools have been running both this war, with a few exceptions, since 2001, and this country for a lot longer….

…the French got waxed by Indochina in the ’50′s…then, turned around, in the same year they lost, and got waxed in Algeria…and all along wrote long, tortured books and articles from all points of the political spectrum bemoaning how this could be possible for such an advanced, enlightened and human place as France…and about two years later we go into Vietnam and make the same mistakes the French did in two wars…and, then, turn around and make many of those same mistakes again in Central Asia that the French and our own forces made in the ’50′s and ’60′s….

…we are cursed with a political class which refuses to do its homework….

Puritan1648 on February 25, 2010 at 8:46 PM

fourdeucer on February 25, 2010 at 8:39 PM

I believe Major Hasan should receive special consideration due to his religion.

He can face Mecca – the firing squad will face west.

NoDonkey on February 25, 2010 at 8:50 PM

It’s progressive change.

And hey! Let me say that the new defense logo is quite eye catching. I’m sure if you keep licking the scrotum of Islam, the wrinkles will come out eventually.

BL@KBIRD on February 25, 2010 at 8:54 PM

what spelling! shudder, remind

sorry

katy the mean old lady on February 25, 2010 at 8:18 PM

katy the mean old lady:Tee-Hee! I kid,tho,I’ve been on a
roll myself:)

canopfor on February 25, 2010 at 9:17 PM

…well, if you have all that going for you, you might be excused for blaspheming….

Puritan1648 on February 25, 2010 at 8:19 PM

Now, now, there’s no need to go that far!/

OldEnglish on February 25, 2010 at 9:25 PM

I take issue with the characterization of Sullivan. The truth is, what might be construed by some as inhumane torture, Sullivan may view the act as a fleeting demonstration of love or at least affection.

R Square on February 25, 2010 at 9:31 PM

These jackasses are going to get people killed. It is one thing if they were only playing this game with their own lives, but they’re not.

R Square on February 25, 2010 at 9:36 PM

The Act prohibits interrogators from “[e]xploiting phobias of the individual.”

Bring me your tired, poor, huddled masses of terrorist; we will roll out the shiny red carpet and treat you like a prince.

*quiver*

Did they really think it would fly under the radar just because everyone was busy watching Masterpiece Theater today?

AP, you are on a roll this week! Love it. LOVE IT!

TN Mom on February 25, 2010 at 9:40 PM

According to Andy McCarthy, the bill states that prohibited conduct “includes but is not limited to” the procedures specified in the act, so an interrogator might run afoul of the law even if he avoids all of the forbidden techniques. The penalty if he does? 15 years in prison.

That new special interrogation unit Obama just got going? Resignations 1 hour after this goes into effect, if it does. These Dems (and Durbin I see your slimy hand in this) are more dangerous to America and the West than akmadinejad.

journeyintothewhirlwind on February 25, 2010 at 10:55 PM

BREAKING: House Republicans defeated this bill.

Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R., Mich.) issued a statement following the successful defeat of a Democratic provision in the annual intelligence bill that would have criminalized an ill-defined range of “degrading” behavior by CIA interrogators:

“That Democrats would try to bury this provision deep in the bill, late at night, when they thought everyone’s attention would be focused on the health care summit is a testament to the shameful nature of what they were attempting,” Hoekstra said.

Enoxo on February 25, 2010 at 10:59 PM

Are interrogators supposed to stop questioning him – even if they think he has timely, actionable intelligence on an impending attack? Is 6 hours of sleep per night sufficient, or do detainees need 8?

During WW2 the US Navy found that sailors could operate at 80% efficiency with 2 hours of sleep in every 24-hour cycle over a 2 – 3 week period, any longer than that and psychology can problem can develop.

Age is also a factor, younger people will last longer than older people.

Anyone who has gone through Boot camp knows this (all branches).

So how much sleep is enough to not be torture?
2 hours

DSchoen on February 25, 2010 at 11:49 PM

I thought the interrogation of Toyota was degrading. We should ban asking people, ya know, tough questions and stuff.

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olesparkie on February 26, 2010 at 7:06 AM

However unlikely,

if ever I have a chance to inflict bodily injury to some murderous vermin, I will without any concern for the law.

If I was on the delta flight I would have tourniqueted the arms and legs of the swine so they fell off, but kept him alive for some interrogation.

And

if I lose a loved one because of some lefty law protecting their terror buddies I wouldn’t want to be the sponsor or supporter of that law

Sonosam on February 26, 2010 at 7:55 AM

Byron York was just on Laura Ingraham talking about this. It appears that they were hoping to take advantage of the misdirection caused by the summit. Apparently we have Rep. Jim McDermitt (sic?) to thank for the wording. When confronted by media the Lefties went into “not me” mode and it was dropped.

Cindy Munford on February 26, 2010 at 9:58 AM

The party of surrender continues to implement surrender tactics? I am shocked.

Puritan1648 on February 25, 2010 at 8:19 PM

Very eloquent writing. There is no will to win a war for some Americans that call themselves Democrats.

rukiddingme on February 26, 2010 at 10:45 AM

I thought the interrogation of Toyota was degrading. We should ban asking people, ya know, tough questions and stuff.

Mojave Mark on February 26, 2010 at 12:48 AM

On the bright side, no one can ever be accused of torturing barry.

runawayyyy on February 26, 2010 at 1:52 PM