Pelosi: It’s not a health-care reform bill, it’s a jobs bill!

posted at 12:15 pm on February 25, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

I’m sure there will be many moments from today’s health-care summit that will be worthy of clipping and saving, but this one from our new colleague Greg Hengler may be the strangest one of all.  In arguing for the current version of ObamaCare, whatever that is at the moment, Nancy Pelosi claims that it will create four million jobs — or nearly half of all the jobs lost over the last two years:

Let’s put this in perspective. The health-care sector already employs 14.3 million people.  The Bureau of Labor Statistics projects that this sector will add 3.2 million more people in the next eight years, thanks to an aging population.  It can do that now because it doesn’t operate under price controls that will come as part of the ObamaCare bill.  If Congress passes a bill that forces smaller payments to doctors and hospitals, that will actually impede hiring to meet the demand — and that is exactly what “bending the cost curve downward” means.

Pelosi also claims that passing the House version of ObamaCare would add 400,000 new jobs immediately.  Where?  Well, those would be the people that the government would have to hire to run their exchanges, manage the federal public option, and enforce individual mandates, among other ObamaCare initiatives. It’s a bureaucratic expansion, the kind of “jobs bill” that will further burden the private sector.


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Abject ignorance isn’t as vapid as Pelosi’s brain.

daesleeper on February 25, 2010 at 12:16 PM

So because they had success with the Jobs Bill that just passed now they are going to label everything Jobs. No, that’s not the least bit obvious pandering./

Cindy Munford on February 25, 2010 at 12:17 PM

And it will rain puppies!

Of course you can beleive me I’m a democrat and no one ever questions us.

faol on February 25, 2010 at 12:18 PM

Nancy has been hanging around Joey Biden too much. She’s caught the ‘just make shit up’ fevah.

GarandFan on February 25, 2010 at 12:18 PM

Quick! Hard pivot to jobs!

Quick! Hard pivot to healthcare!

Quick! Hard pivot to jobs!

Lame ducks swimming in a circle.

Enoxo on February 25, 2010 at 12:18 PM

Where? Well, those would be the people that the government would have to hire to run their exchanges, manage the federal public option, and enforce individual mandates, among other ObamaCare initiatives.

Maybe they can borrow a few hundred thousand from that well oiled and fantastically efficient post office.

behiker on February 25, 2010 at 12:18 PM

It’s neither.

It’s a Democrat power grab.

And the American public knows it.

Good Lt on February 25, 2010 at 12:19 PM

Hey Botox Freak, We don’t want to add 4 million government jobs, we want to eliminate 4 MILLION GOVERNMENT JOBS and hopefully it will include yours.

bluegrass on February 25, 2010 at 12:19 PM

This woman is out of her fcking skull

blatantblue on February 25, 2010 at 12:19 PM

Is it just me? The magnificent One seems to be sleeping.

antisocial on February 25, 2010 at 12:20 PM

So because they had success with the Jobs Bill that just passed now they are going to label everything Jobs. No, that’s not the least bit obvious pandering./

Cindy Munford on February 25, 2010 at 12:17 PM

I think it’s that, and, frankly, because of the unemployment numbers that came out today. Everyone sees that news and is like–WTF are we dealing with healthcare still… why have we not fixed jobs.

Enoxo on February 25, 2010 at 12:20 PM

I am so tired of the lies coming from these people.

darwin on February 25, 2010 at 12:20 PM

Is it just me? The magnificent One seems to be sleeping.

antisocial on February 25, 2010 at 12:20 PM

He’s bored with these trifling mortals.

Enoxo on February 25, 2010 at 12:20 PM

“…so, if you don’t vote for healthcare reform, you are for wife beating and more unexpected rises in joblessness.”

Akzed on February 25, 2010 at 12:21 PM

Scroll down to Marx.

In Marx’s theory, bureaucracy rarely creates new wealth by itself, but rather controls, co-ordinates and governs the production, distribution and consumption of wealth. The bureaucracy as a social stratum derives its income from the appropriation of part of the social surplus product of human labor. Wealth is appropriated by the bureaucracy by law through fees, taxes, levies, tributes, licensing etc.

Bureaucracy is therefore always a cost to society, but this cost may be accepted insofar as it makes social order possible, and maintains it by enforcing the rule of law. Nevertheless there are constant conflicts about this cost, because it has the big effect on the distribution of incomes; all producers will try to get the maximum return from what they produce, and minimize administrative costs. Typically, in epochs of strong economic growth, bureaucracies proliferate; when economic growth declines, a fight breaks out to cut back bureaucratic costs.

Whether or not a bureaucracy as a social stratum can become a genuine ruling class depends greatly on the prevailing property relations and the mode of production of wealth. In capitalist society, the state typically lacks an independent economic base, finances many activities on credit, and is heavily dependent on levying taxes as a source of income. Therefore, its power is limited by the costs which private owners of the productive assets will tolerate. If, however, the state owns the means of production itself, defended by military power, the state bureaucracy can become much more powerful, and act as a ruling class or power elite. Because in that case, it directly controls the sources of new wealth, and manages or distributes the social product. This is the subject of Marxist theories of bureaucratic collectivism.

Dr Evil on February 25, 2010 at 12:21 PM

She is alive! The horror!

nyx on February 25, 2010 at 12:22 PM

Given the NHS is the UK is 1.3 million people, then the US will be at least 4 million

phreshone on February 25, 2010 at 12:23 PM

WHAAAAAAAAAAAT?????????

Ok….now they’re just grasping for the life preserver. That’s as absurd as it gets folks. Good Lord someone put this woman out to pasture, or take her to the glue factory.

capejasmine on February 25, 2010 at 12:23 PM

Are these the people you want to turn over your health care to?

d1carter on February 25, 2010 at 12:23 PM

Stunning example of political arrogance and total comtempt for the truth….wow just wow!

dmann on February 25, 2010 at 12:23 PM

Can’t see the vid right now, but is it possible she confused the jobs bill with the healthcare bill?

cs89 on February 25, 2010 at 12:23 PM

Pelosi should have to speak under a deluge of ping pong balls like the good Captain Kangaroo when questioned by Mr. Moose.

daesleeper on February 25, 2010 at 12:23 PM

When all else fails Pelosi tries the Jedi mind trick.

These aren’t the droids we’re looking for Nancy.

Scrappy on February 25, 2010 at 12:23 PM

The botox has seeped into her skull…

nyx on February 25, 2010 at 12:24 PM

Dr Evil on February 25, 2010 at 12:21 PM

Let’s hope that never needs to be explained again after 2012.

Akzed on February 25, 2010 at 12:24 PM

Wait till you see how absolutely grand the media makes the Democrats look.

IlikedAUH2O on February 25, 2010 at 12:25 PM

I for one will like the Speaker of the House to be unemployed. It is unfair to Americans in this recession to hire zombies for jobs Americans won’t do.

nyx on February 25, 2010 at 12:26 PM

If yer gonna lie, lie big.

-Nancy Grandiosi Pelosi

Why not 40,000,000 jobs, Nance?

Or 4 billion?

Since no one checks, just say it will guarantee FULL EMPLOYMENT?

What does that even mean to the Dems, anyway?

And a free lollipop for everyone with a mouth!

profitsbeard on February 25, 2010 at 12:26 PM

bureaucratic expansion = waste. This expands overhead costs, not actual treatment. There will always be a percentage of health care costs going to overhead, but expanding it makes costs go up, not down.

Unless, of course, you are setting up an administrative regimen to decide who gets what treatment and denying treatment to certain types of people. But that would be like death panels.

rbj on February 25, 2010 at 12:26 PM

John McCain is talking about the process that ObamaCare used…

d1carter on February 25, 2010 at 12:27 PM

“It’s a floor wax and a desert topping!”

AUINSC on February 25, 2010 at 12:27 PM

Pelosi: It’s not a health-care reform bill, it’s a jobs bill!

It was inevitable, just a matter of time.

Give ‘em time, cap-n-trade will be a jobs bill too.

petefrt on February 25, 2010 at 12:28 PM

And everybody will get a pony.

Cicero43 on February 25, 2010 at 12:29 PM

Therefore, its power is limited by the costs which private owners of the productive assets will tolerate.
Dr Evil on February 25, 2010 at 12:21 PM

Which means the only to fight them is to not achieve and provide the raw material to power the national socialistic machine.

Strike and starve the beast.

Chip on February 25, 2010 at 12:30 PM

Immigration reform is a jobs bill. Massive abortion funding is a jobs bill. Restricting gun ownership is a jobs bill. Renaming a street after Charlie Rangel is a jobs bill.

Welcome to Liberal America, a place where everything is a jobs bill.

Bishop on February 25, 2010 at 12:30 PM

It’s Country and Western….

moc23 on February 25, 2010 at 12:30 PM

IDIOCY
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

Alden Pyle on February 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM

Ugh. I wish I had all of Pelosi’s remarks.

terryannonline on February 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM

C’monnnnnn November 2nd…..

rollthedice on February 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM

Sure it is. She can really shovel the manure! She is starting to remind me of Penelope on SNL — at least Penelope is funny.
 
Nan is as scary as it gets. Large ego and an unending desire to destroy the republic as we know it. I guess that describes about half of the current crop of politicians.

ClanDerson on February 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM

She must be retarded.

Jaibones on February 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM

Even if Madam Trout Mask Replica is correct about the 4 million jobs created, that’s still less than 10% of 500 million jobs she said were lost every month at the end of the Bush Administration.

forest on February 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM

And everybody will get a pony.
Cicero43 on February 25, 2010 at 12:29 PM

Or a Unicorn, it’ll be you choice!

Chip on February 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM

MSNBC has Obama’s and Reid’s remarks up already but not Pelosi’s.

terryannonline on February 25, 2010 at 12:32 PM

Lets take a 1 hour break and I will sell tickets for a free unicorn ride on the White House Grounds to raise money to balance the budget.

Inept
Inexperienced
And a bona fide liar

Same boardroom antics used at Government Motors.

bluegrass on February 25, 2010 at 12:33 PM

Hollow eyed commie hippie……….

adamsmith on February 25, 2010 at 12:34 PM

She must be retarded.
Jaibones on February 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM

Psychologically inhibited. Get it right you racist.

Bishop on February 25, 2010 at 12:34 PM

She might be right–if she means four million government bureaucratic jobs that drain the economy to the tune of $70,000 on average per position, and produce absolutely nothing in return.

Of course, I’m not at all convinced Nancy is thinking even that cynically pragmatically. I suspect she’s simply insane.

Blacklake on February 25, 2010 at 12:35 PM

It’s not a health-care reform bill, it’s a jobs bill!

Waitaminute. I’ve seen this cartoon

apostic on February 25, 2010 at 12:35 PM

Welcome to Liberal America, a place where everything is a jobs bill.

Bishop on February 25, 2010 at 12:30 PM

And yet, unemployment keeps ‘unexpectedly’ rising…

AUINSC on February 25, 2010 at 12:35 PM

And yet, unemployment keeps ‘unexpectedly’ rising…
AUINSC on February 25, 2010 at 12:35 PM

Racist.

Bishop on February 25, 2010 at 12:37 PM

“It’s a floor wax and a desert topping!”

AUINSC on February 25, 2010 at 12:27 PM

ROFLMAO!!!!

capejasmine on February 25, 2010 at 12:42 PM

The Bureau of Labor Statistics projects that this sector will add 3.2 million more people in the next eight years, thanks to an aging population.

Check into the AMA (American Medical Asso) Ed. As well as the DHHS (Dept of Health and Human Service) as you will see where the “jobs” are going too.

Because I have a feeling they are going to be hiring a bunch of Medicare Admin Contractors… which is a waste of money in many aspect.

upinak on February 25, 2010 at 12:43 PM

So anybody figure out yet what Biden’s doing at this meeting?

highhopes on February 25, 2010 at 12:43 PM

Strike and starve the beast.

Chip on February 25, 2010 at 12:30 PM

That’s the rumbling “Starve The Beast”

Dr Evil on February 25, 2010 at 12:43 PM

It’s two! Two! Two bills in one!

flipflop on February 25, 2010 at 12:43 PM

Nancy Pelosi claims that it will create four million jobs — or nearly half of all the jobs lost over the last two years

Do you suppose there are 4 million additional people out there who want to be employed by the healthcare sector? I just don’t see some unemployed autoworker from Detroit looking wistfully as he sees workers in scrubs going into a hospital.

highhopes on February 25, 2010 at 12:46 PM

Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha, oh man that clip is just too rich! Take a look at Obama & Biden as spews this non-sense. At the begining as Bam-bam is taking the gist of her words in he has a classic “whatchu talkin ’bout woman” look of incoprehension. Then when lens pans out to capture both them they look fidgittey looking down, looking anywhere but at the cameras or at anyone that knows better with consternation. You can just see the gears smoking in their head’s thinking, “Is she nuts! Just how are we supposed to support these absurd claims in the Q&A session?”

I predict a veritable avalanche of uhm, ahs, let me be clear’s as they try to explain this at the presser that follows this charade. I was a liitle worried that the R’s would fumble the ball with their usual less than suave performance in these settings, but if they allow her to prattle on like this, and with luck extensive clarifying explaination by Biden, leaving Obaloney to polish this turd afterwards….Oh man we couldn’t ask for a better gift!

I wish I could be watching this in real time, this is priceless.

Archimedes on February 25, 2010 at 12:46 PM

Ha! Imagine 4 million nurses sitting around with band-aids waiting for some SEIU type to hurt themselves in their rush to vote again and again and again…. Government jobs indeed -unless she’s thinking of including botox injections as part of the health bill?

Don L on February 25, 2010 at 12:46 PM

Come on, people. She said cap and tax was about jobs. Do you really expect her to be logical about this?!!!!

UnderstandingisPower on February 25, 2010 at 12:47 PM

BTW- Why is Odumbo involved as the head of this summit when he is not in the legislative branch of Gov’t.

rjoco1 on February 25, 2010 at 12:48 PM

Why not just pass a law that declares that every government employee is a doctor. Then whenever you need to a see a doctor, you only have to stop by the DMV. That makes as much sense as claiming that adding 4,000,000 government employees will save money. Heck, why not hire 4,000,000,000 and save even more money.

pedestrian on February 25, 2010 at 12:48 PM

Pelosi also claims that passing the House version of ObamaCare would add 400,000 new jobs immediately

400,000 SEIU government jobs at a cost of millions of non-union private sector jobs. And the private sector gets to pay for it. That’s how Democrats define progress.

RadClown on February 25, 2010 at 12:48 PM

PBHO can’t shut up. He just said, “ok one last thing” and then went on for ten minutes in pure lecture mode. He isn’t listening, he’s preaching.

Bishop on February 25, 2010 at 12:50 PM

“It’s a floor wax and a desert topping!”

AUINSC on February 25, 2010 at 12:27 PM

THREADWINNER!

chunderroad on February 25, 2010 at 12:51 PM

Well its obvious that the dems to include the boy king are making complete fools and liars of themselves on national TV. It will be interesting to see how the Lame Stream media spins it tonight. And you can forget about the CSpan coverage of future congressional hearings because this fiasco will only help destroy their credibility and Nanzi and Dirty Harry will not allow it to happen again.

bluegrass on February 25, 2010 at 12:52 PM

Are they really talking about creating a bureaucracy several times larger than the US military?

And if there is X demand for service that is handled by Y number of people that costs $Z. What happens to $Z when the number of people meeting the same demand for services explodes?

How is this better? Here is why they are doing it:

Medicare is going to go broke. When that happens many seniors will be without medical care. They are trying to “spread the pain” across the entire population providing reduced care for EVERYONE but at least having some care for the old people they choose to allow to live.

What they are doing is just smearing their crap across the entire population instead of dumping it all on one segment of it. And if they can’t be trusted to be fiscally responsible with any other program, why are we to believe they can be responsible with our health care?

This is just insanity.

crosspatch on February 25, 2010 at 12:52 PM

I didn’t know that Pelosi could sign! How do you say..STFU in sign?

DJ from MA on February 25, 2010 at 12:52 PM

I thought the house fell on Sebellius, was I wrong. As for Nancy, back to the wax museum

hip shot on February 25, 2010 at 12:53 PM

I was told by my Mom when I was a kid to say nothing if you can’t say something nice…..

(so….insert tirade of choice here)

PappyD61 on February 25, 2010 at 12:55 PM

Four million jobs, huh Pelozilla?

Four million jobs doing what? Last time I checked, there are not that many burger joints that require that many paper-hatted pattie flippers! Plus I highly doubt that we are talking jobs here that are ABOVE the current minumum wage. So what exactly are these jobs she is envisioning suddenly popping out of nowhere?

AND WHY AIN’T THERE ANY REPUBLICANS ASKING HERE THESE EXACT SAME QUESTIONS AT THAT STUPID SUMMIT RIGHT NOW?!!!

pilamaye on February 25, 2010 at 12:56 PM

I heard it was four BILLION jobs.

(Making up numbers is not a hard game to play. There is no reason on earth to ever allow moonbats to win at it.)

logis on February 25, 2010 at 12:56 PM

You know what Government paper pushers aka bureaucrats are good at PRODUCING? Paper.

http://monicamemo.typepad.com/weblog/2010/02/7000-pages.html

Dr Evil on February 25, 2010 at 12:56 PM

Give ‘em time, cap-n-trade will be a jobs bill too.

petefrt on February 25, 2010 at 12:28 PM

Uh, they already claimed that. IIRC it was gong to add about 2 million new green jobs.

Johnnyreb on February 25, 2010 at 12:59 PM

Strike and starve the beast.
Chip on February 25, 2010 at 12:30 PM

That’s the rumbling “Starve The Beast”
Dr Evil on February 25, 2010 at 12:43 PM

The Far-left National Socialist progressive wing of the Democrat party is going to take it from you anyways.

Why not be the master of your own fate?

Chip on February 25, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Massive bill that produces a massive bureaucracy. After all, isn’t the NHS (British Health Care system) the third largest employer in the world?

An army of paper pushers.

Desert Gardens on February 25, 2010 at 1:03 PM

Hope & change with total transparency on view on National TV

What a joke our president and our government is!!!!!!!!

Let me be perfectly clear, this is beyond my paygrade. I can defend killing unborn babies and robbing from the rich and giving to ACORN and the unions but this is just too much for me.

bluegrass on February 25, 2010 at 1:07 PM

Nancy Pelosi claims that it will create four million jobs — or nearly half of all the jobs lost over the last two years

She is having trouble bribing people to vote for this in the house (Moderate and Blue Dog Democrats) so she is going straight to trying to bribe their constituents? Do they get we don’t trust them already?

Dr Evil on February 25, 2010 at 1:08 PM

No facts, tell a sob story.

Where do you get your dead sisters teeth.

tarpon on February 25, 2010 at 1:08 PM

That was incoherent.

Troy Rasmussen on February 25, 2010 at 1:10 PM

I know a lot of people who plan on quitting their current job in the healthcare system if the public option passes . . .
I also know a lot of medical students, many whom could be extremely good doctors, that are watching this with a close eye to see if they want to bail out and not waste any more money at med school.

Ingenue on February 25, 2010 at 1:12 PM

She made similar stupid remarks just before the house vote on HR 3200 “Jobs, Jobs, Jobs!” The woman is despicable.

“It’s a floor wax and a desert topping!”

AUINSC on February 25, 2010 at 12:27 PM

THREADWINNER!

chunderroad on February 25, 2010 at 12:51 PM

I second that!

dogsoldier on February 25, 2010 at 1:15 PM

How is it that the biggest idiots in Congress seem to rise to the top?

Would you hire Pelosi to manage the ohdarkthirty shift at a McDonalds?

notagool on February 25, 2010 at 1:16 PM

btw, the look on Obowma’s face tells the story. The GOP opened up a can of whoop-ass on his posse.

dogsoldier on February 25, 2010 at 1:16 PM

With all the jobs the Democrats are creating, we’ll soon be overemployed!

Which means we’ll have to naturalize all the illegals I’m sure.

The American people are definitely getting jobbed, that we can all agree on.

NoDonkey on February 25, 2010 at 1:18 PM

megyn kelly taking linda douglas to task!!

bernzright777 on February 25, 2010 at 1:19 PM

And it will rain puppies!

faol on February 25, 2010 at 12:18 PM

“Oh you’re allergic to dogs?? RAAAACCCIST!”

Ingenue on February 25, 2010 at 1:19 PM

Why doesn’t she just put on the red nose and big shoes so we can see her for what she really is.

jack herman on February 25, 2010 at 1:20 PM

Everybody will have health care coverage, but the doctors you get will be ACORN / SEIU members thugs crash course “Holiday Inn Express” medical doctor.

It is an absolute right (to have health care), but ObamaCare never promised a GOOD health care for you and me.

Sir Napsalot on February 25, 2010 at 1:22 PM

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100025633/time-for-a-british-tea-party/

HERE HERE Strike The Beast In The Belly.

Dr Evil on February 25, 2010 at 1:23 PM

Diarrhea of the mouth, brain and character.

paul1149 on February 25, 2010 at 1:25 PM

Why would we want to follow the example of European Socialism when they are failing?

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100027495/the-eu-is-too-big-to-succeed/

Dr Evil on February 25, 2010 at 1:25 PM

I smell tuna.

SouthernGent on February 25, 2010 at 1:42 PM

For the love of God and all that is holy, please deliver us from these incapable, profligate, lying, feckless rumps.
AAAAAAAAACK!

scalleywag on February 25, 2010 at 1:49 PM

So anybody figure out yet what Biden’s doing at this meeting?

highhopes on February 25, 2010 at 12:43 PM

Apparently, between he,(Biden, and Obama. Bidens the brains of the outfit. LOL

capejasmine on February 25, 2010 at 1:58 PM

C’mon Ed, someone is going to have to give healthcare to all the illegal aliens….

nazo311 on February 25, 2010 at 2:00 PM

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