Open thread: Obama health-care summit; Update: Video link added
posted at 9:30 am on February 25, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
This health-care summit is already off to a great start. The White House leaked a scaled-down proposal just days after unveiling a formal proposal so vague that the CBO couldn’t score it. Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi will kick things off at the summit by laying out her approach to any hint of a new direction for ObamaCare. In her opening statement, Pelosi will specifically reject what she calls “incrementalism,” demanding instead the kind of sweeping reform that has made ObamaCare political poison for Democrats living outside of San Francisco:
Traveling around the country, we’ve all heard stories about people unable to pay their medical bills. I’ve even seen a grown man cry – a senior citizen from Michigan, whose wife had been sick for 16 years. He didn’t know how he’d pay the medical bills. He was too proud to ask his children for help – they had financial challenges of their own. He worried he might lose his house because of the cost of care. All he could ask was: how can I tell my children?
His story and others illustrate why reform is so critical and why inaction and incrementalism are simply unacceptable.
Both “inaction and incrementalism” are unacceptable? They’re not the same thing, as even some of her Democratic allies have begun to realize. A sweeping reform in the wrong direction would be much worse than incrementalism that could later be reversed without doing extensive damage to the system — and it would be worse even than doing nothing at all.
What do you think the outcome will be? Take the poll:
Update (AP): NBC should be streaming it live in this player as it gets going.
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They all need a teleprompter….heh heh
sicoit on February 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM
They are in a 10 foot hole and digging like crazy…this is simply EXPOSING them as fools
winston on February 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM
Readi tells Lamar he is makin’ shit up.
motionview on February 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM
Nah…he’s just a tool.
JetBoy on February 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM
Dingy explains a ‘Doughnut hole’…that thing between his ears.
AUINSC on February 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM
Hey Harry the best solution to the “doughnut hole” in Medicare is Medicare Advantage. You know the program you want to do away with.
Just A Grunt on February 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM
Harry woke up on the wrong side of the bed!
karu_servative on February 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM
Skip the talking points rhetoric harry…..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Rovin on February 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM
Rovin on February 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM
Was this supposed to be an actual discussion?
“I hope this isn’t just political theater.”
Abby Adams on February 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM
Haha — Reconciliation? What reconciliation?
Ferris on February 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM
If there is anything that is coming through here, it’s that the Dems do not understand the healthcare system or the economy.
WisCon on February 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM
No fair calling out another Senator if he can’t defend himself. What a bully.
ctmom on February 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM
Prescriptions? Didn’t Obama cut a deal with the drug industry to foreclose cheap imports?
BuckeyeSam on February 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM
no one has mentioned reconciliation? WTF??
jana on February 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM
They’re sticking to the script.
Free Constitution on February 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM
Who did Harry’s poll question? Democrat senators and congressmen?
darwin-t on February 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM
Harry Reid is a disgrace. We need to get this man out of office!
milemarker2020 on February 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM
This old man is nasty!
karu_servative on February 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM
Harry gets snotty with Lamar – but won’t look him in the eye. What a turd.
Mr_Magoo on February 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM
Reid challenging Lamar’s FACTS .. just because he has stories !
Now denying talking about reconciliation.
oy
pambi on February 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM
Tax cuts for rich people! Bushitler!
WisCon on February 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM
Oh brother! Not another story! We all have stories of our own we don’t need told what the problems are! We know already!
This person would have been far worse off in Canada!!!! They wouldn’t have even been in the door in the first place.
Oh but we are all entitled to Reid’s fake fake fake facts!
I can not believe how easily these people spin!!!!!
Talk about having your own facts! Please Reid we have all seen the polls… they are against this bill!
This bill is not what the people want!!!!
This is really unbelievable–the Democrats have not talked about reconciliation? I’m sorry? Lie much?
petunia on February 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM
What you hope for is that dems WILL seem overly emotoinal and weak. You need a steady hand not driveling idiots.
tomas on February 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM
Harry, the tax cuts applied to all Americans.
BuckeyeSam on February 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM
Anyone notice that the more Reid blathers the redder Lamar’s face gets?? Mine tooo…..
PaCadle on February 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM
Who the f#ck are you? Alexander didn’t do jack sh!t about anything. You are delusional.
neurosculptor on February 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM
Brain fart
BrianA on February 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM
I think Harry Reid just handed the Nevada Senate seat to Lowden or Tarkanian.
Doughboy on February 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM
Sunday talk shows will be round-up of various political obituaries on Obama.
Calling Krauthammer!
JiangxiDad on February 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM
Lamar should throw his shoe at Harry!
Jussi on February 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM
Now he’s talking about process. Harry address the issues. Address what Alexander said.
WC on February 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM
Not watching….how did Reid call Lamar a liar? Was it that obvious? That isn’t going to go over well with folks watching at home. Lamar never comes off as a partisan liar.
rockmom on February 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM
He talks about “facts” but misleads the viewers off the polls by not explaining that yes, people want health care, but overwhelmingly, people DO NOT want this healthcare bill.
Jack @ss.
carti3r on February 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM
Yeah Harry ‘AS if!” ha ha ha ha
sonnyspats1 on February 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM
I though Barry said not to get petty.
Mr_Magoo on February 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM
OK. What I’ve seen so far is that Republicans have given a voice to what most Americans have been saying. Republicans offered a hand to produce substantive discussion and change, while Nancy and Harry have gone on the offensive weith their own agendas.
Harry Reid is CLUELESS.
With regard to reconciliation, it has been used 20+ times, for a net effect of $300B in budget reductions since 1980. It was NOT used to try and take over 17% of our economy at a massivbe cost to our deficit.
cannonball on February 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM
Uh oh! Reconciliation raises its’ ugly head.
donh525 on February 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM
Reconciliation has been used mostly to LOWER the deficit, dipsh!t.
tru2tx on February 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM
“No one’s talking about reconciliation…
…Oh, but just so you know, reconciliation has been used for pleeeenty of things. So we’re gonna use it.”
Abby Adams on February 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM
Harry is insulting us all as not dealing in reality.
BuckeyeSam on February 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM
hahahahahaha Harry Reid talking about “reality”. Someone needs to take away his centrum silver.
milwife88 on February 25, 2010 at 10:49 AM
Reid: “No one here has talked about reconciliation.” Holy crap, these weasles are unreal.
labwriter on February 25, 2010 at 10:49 AM
LOOK…over there …a fool…talking out loud!!!
winston on February 25, 2010 at 10:49 AM
Facts Harry! Facts?????
karu_servative on February 25, 2010 at 10:49 AM
Nancy and Harry on mute. Can’t find my hip-waders.
Murf76 on February 25, 2010 at 10:49 AM
The Harvard death study!!!
Abby Adams on February 25, 2010 at 10:49 AM
Ha Ha Ha Ha
sonnyspats1 on February 25, 2010 at 10:49 AM
Just what we knew the filthy liars were going to do – put on a show running down R’s.
silvernana on February 25, 2010 at 10:49 AM
Okay Harry point to one thing in your bill from the Republicans.
Just A Grunt on February 25, 2010 at 10:49 AM
Let’s look at the facts ………
Unemployment causes wife beating.
fogw on February 25, 2010 at 10:49 AM
So far the Dems have only been campaigning for the upcoming mid-terms. That’s about it.
OH RIGHT! People are dying because of lack of healthcare???
JetBoy on February 25, 2010 at 10:49 AM
I thought the Republicans never offered anything? Proof, once more, that if their mouths are moving, they’re lying!!
peasoup on February 25, 2010 at 10:49 AM
How many die with insurance Harry?
ndulik on February 25, 2010 at 10:49 AM
dingy is worse than san fran gran nan…
Never thought it possible.
He is an evil and cunning fool.
OmahaConservative on February 25, 2010 at 10:49 AM
I don’t believe this crap…Dingy is claiming that most bankruptcies are caused by HC costs…I call BS.
AUINSC on February 25, 2010 at 10:50 AM
Lamar should jump on the table and tiny step it over to Harry and take his ^&%$$#’en head. (via Kill Bill).
: D
Handel on February 25, 2010 at 10:50 AM
Not watching….how did Reid call Lamar a liar? Was it that obvious?
rockmom on February 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM
Lamar said yes reconciliation has been used before but never with legislation like this. Harry forgot that part.
Mr_Magoo on February 25, 2010 at 10:50 AM
Harry is blowing it. If you don’t have health insurance, you’re going to die! The rest of us will live forever!
Vince on February 25, 2010 at 10:50 AM
that’s an oxymoron.
ted c on February 25, 2010 at 10:50 AM
We all know that no matter what actually happens here today it will be spun as “an unprecedented victory on healthcare” by the propagandists.
thomasaur on February 25, 2010 at 10:50 AM
Sorry Hayzuess
sonnyspats1 on February 25, 2010 at 10:50 AM
Obama just realized how much trouble he and the country are in-
ndulik on February 25, 2010 at 10:50 AM
“jesus and that little girl” are now going to decide our healthcare, thanks to Harry Reid.
Vincenzo on February 25, 2010 at 10:50 AM
They have been telling you their plan, Harry!
Abby Adams on February 25, 2010 at 10:51 AM
Most bankruptcies are caused by this lousy economy. And who’s fault is that?
Doughboy on February 25, 2010 at 10:51 AM
Hey Obama, how’s the transparency thing working out?
JiangxiDad on February 25, 2010 at 10:51 AM
If you have a better plan…..
karu_servative on February 25, 2010 at 10:51 AM
Oh God, nothing but prepared speeches for six hours.
This is not a debate on the issues.
fogw on February 25, 2010 at 10:51 AM
OK, I can see this summit is just going to be a total waste of time. The Dem’s won’t offer up anything except stories and putting down the GOP.
Nothing new.
JetBoy on February 25, 2010 at 10:51 AM
Oh for Gods sake, the “if you have a better plan…..” bs.
ctmom on February 25, 2010 at 10:51 AM
I don’t believe the majority of Americans believe that crap.
deidre on February 25, 2010 at 10:51 AM
Good lord… six hours?
jana on February 25, 2010 at 10:51 AM
Jesus would be worse off in Canada! That’s all we need to know!
Every single story can be answered that way! What kind of care would they get in a country where they have what the Democrats make us have!
He gave you way better ideas already that are BETTER!!!!
petunia on February 25, 2010 at 10:51 AM
Haha — cut to giant pile of papers.
Ferris on February 25, 2010 at 10:51 AM
Whenever Reid opens his mouth he should be saying yes I am a hypocrite.
Mr_Magoo on February 25, 2010 at 10:51 AM
yeah 1 month of the deficit ha ha 110 billion
sonnyspats1 on February 25, 2010 at 10:51 AM
Why is Harry so defensive?????
karu_servative on February 25, 2010 at 10:51 AM
I do too. The med expenses are usually well after the mortgage and credit card debt.
BuckeyeSam on February 25, 2010 at 10:51 AM
Was dingy not listening to Lamar earlier? has he forgotten his hearing aid? what a moron!
becki51758 on February 25, 2010 at 10:51 AM
Oh my, Dow down 157 points. Any chance Obama’s not doing well?
JiangxiDad on February 25, 2010 at 10:51 AM
Something tells me that prisoners all over the country are tuning in and watching Harry and saying:”someday…someday…”
Handel on February 25, 2010 at 10:51 AM
Harry goes belligerent! Some one kick his a$$!
donh525 on February 25, 2010 at 10:52 AM
You’re right.
katy on February 25, 2010 at 10:52 AM
The next republican that talks had better explain how the taxes will start now, the benefits in 5 years so that it LOOKS like it’s budget neutral
darwin-t on February 25, 2010 at 10:52 AM
This whole gambit is a disaster. This is going to turn into a blame the GOP lovefest.
milemarker2020 on February 25, 2010 at 10:52 AM
Harry “sock puppet” Reid
Mr_Magoo on February 25, 2010 at 10:52 AM
BOOOOSH!!!!!
jana on February 25, 2010 at 10:52 AM
ewwww, is Harry gonna kiss Nan? gross!
peasoup on February 25, 2010 at 10:52 AM
Taking bets on who throws the first punch.
milwife88 on February 25, 2010 at 10:52 AM
Who speaks next for GOP? They should ask for reconcilliation to be taken off the table or walk.
ctmom on February 25, 2010 at 10:52 AM
After Harry calls the Repubs liars, he says he is ready to listen to any suggestions.
d1carter on February 25, 2010 at 10:52 AM
Yep. And all the “hits” that people think are being landed by the GOP will just disappear into the aether. There was never anything to be gained by attending this meeting, except to help this destructive bill back to life again. After all, the GOP is taking place in a deay-long meeting about it. It must be alive. That will be the takeaway from this fiasco.
neurosculptor on February 25, 2010 at 10:52 AM
Here goes fearless leader!!
peasoup on February 25, 2010 at 10:52 AM
For sure.
petefrt on February 25, 2010 at 10:52 AM
Who speaks next? Paul Ryan I hope.
deidre on February 25, 2010 at 10:52 AM
“America’s the only country in the world where if you get sick or hurt, you have to file bankruptcy.” Oh, really?
In our mostly blue-collar/small business family, we’ve had terminal cancer, heart attacks, rare form of anemia — all covered by health insurance. No bankruptcies. Did these people buy health insurance at 7-11, or something?
Nichevo on February 25, 2010 at 10:52 AM
Are the dems playing soft music while they tell their sob stories? Like an infomercial.
redwhiteblue on February 25, 2010 at 10:52 AM
Do the R’s get to talk? Doesn’t seem like they have equal time.
silvernana on February 25, 2010 at 10:52 AM
Barry: Back to ME!
Mr_Magoo on February 25, 2010 at 10:53 AM
“legislative brilliance”…?
At what? Not passing any bill concerning the issue at hand?
Brilliant indeed.
anuts on February 25, 2010 at 10:53 AM
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