Highlights: The best freak-show moments from the health-care freak show

posted at 5:02 pm on February 25, 2010 by Allahpundit

Did I miss anything here? We’ve got the Perpetual Campaigner reminding McCain that the campaign is over; The One declaring his entitlement to extra speaking time based on the fact that he is, after all, The One; and Tom Harkin lamenting the malevolent Jim Crow dynamic involved in charging higher premiums to people who incur greater health costs. Thanks to the Breitbart folks and our pal Greg Hengler for the vids.

I watched five minutes this morning and thought it would backfire on both parties. Everyone knew it was theater (well, 77 percent), everyone knew nothing would come of it, yet the premise seemed to be that the public might be gullible enough to believe they were negotiating in earnest. “We think you’re stupid” is rarely a winning slogan, least of all in this political climate. I actually laughed out loud when Politico put out that story announcing the Dems’ plan to go it alone on Obama’s bill when there were still, oh, around four hours or so left in the Summit That Saved America. But after watching a bit longer, I came around to Jay Nordlinger’s view:

This health-care summit was a bad idea for the Democrats for this reason: They have long benefited from a perception — a perception greatly abetted by the media: The Republicans don’t care about health care, they don’t know about health care, they are the Party of No. All the ideas and caring are on the Democratic side.

It is not so, and it has never been so. And now everybody knows it.

Yeah. The flaw in the Democrats’ bipartisan kabuki is that they’ve invested so much time in painting the GOP as brainless and feckless that the media — and public — almost can’t help but be pleasantly surprised. Yuval Levin’s also right that it’s not to Zeus’s advantage to descend from Mt. Olympus, because the lesser gods that surround him on his side of the aisle are … what’s the word? Ah yes — unappealing losers.

Third, an important part of the Democrats’ problem is that Obama himself is their only star, and this format is not working for him. He certainly seems engaged and well informed (even given a few misstatements of fact, at least one of which John Kyl made very clear.) But he doesn’t seem like the President of the United States—more like a slightly cranky committee chairman or a patronizing professor who thinks that saying something is “a legitimate argument” is a way to avoid having an argument. He is diminished by the circumstances, he’s cranky and prickly when challenged, and he’s got no one to help him. The other Democrats around the table have been worse than unimpressive. The Republicans seem genuinely well-prepared, seem to have thought through the question of who should speak about what rather carefully, and several of them have done quite a good job making their case against the Democrats’ approach. If we were to judge by debating points, Republicans certainly won the morning handily.

For once, I think Slow Joe got it right: “This could end up being not good.” A few moments for your amusement here of how not good it was.

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I have a very simple question: Where in the constitution is the federal government charged with maintaining people’s health?

nazo311 on February 25, 2010 at 5:46 PM

I’m F*CKING PISSED!!!

I’ve been segregated from Ferraris and Lamobs my whole life. WTF!

jukin on February 25, 2010 at 5:46 PM

Other great highlights: Eric Cantor schooling Obama on his own bill. Lamar Alexander. Etc. Just some good debate from the GOP all around. As MM said: The GOP brought issues and the Dems brought tissues.

Rangel was the only democrat who failed to bring us a sob story.

carbon_footprint on February 25, 2010 at 5:46 PM

So the main lesson of today is: If the dentures don’t fit, you must commit?

Feels like the 90s all over again.

di butler on February 25, 2010 at 5:47 PM

The sad thing is that only those of us who follow politics can interpret the GOP winning the debate today. The MSM will not allow the story to break. So, sadly, nothing will come from it.

carbon_footprint on February 25, 2010 at 5:42 PM

I hear what you’re saying, but remember that millions of Americans are watching Fox News, and they aren’t all Republicans. Add to that the internet. The MSM isn’t nearly as in control of the narrative as it once was. If it were, huge majorities of voters wouldn’t be opposed to Obamacare as they are. The true agenda of the far left democrat socialists has broken through, in spite of MSM cheerleading for the “moderate” Obama.

Rational Thought on February 25, 2010 at 5:47 PM

Seriously, WTF was Harkin talking about???

xax on February 25, 2010 at 5:33 PM

Segregation, pools, he sold insurance, one thing he knows, disabilities…I pretty much assume they all hit the bar after his little speech…and I have a feeling he will be segregated from the next meeting.

right2bright on February 25, 2010 at 5:48 PM

Did the dead woman’s teeth ever start chattering on their own as they sat on the side table…late at night…with a clock ticking in the background…as the old woman sat alone, rocking in her chair.

*Chatter chatter*

“Who is that?”

*chatter chatter*

“Hello…is someone there?”

*chatter chatter*

Bishop on February 25, 2010 at 5:48 PM

It’s Bush’s fault …
… “The election’s over.”

J_Crater on February 25, 2010 at 5:49 PM

bayam:

The only thing this event proved was how ineffective government has become.

You might enjoy this article.

sandberg on February 25, 2010 at 5:49 PM

I kept telling the naysayers that the Republicans had to show up. Where do I get my “I told you so” blue ribbon?

John the Libertarian on February 25, 2010 at 5:06 PM

In our defense, we had no reason to expect the Republicans to get their act together. I’m glad they did though, and enjoy your correct prediction =)

Darth Executor on February 25, 2010 at 5:49 PM

I don’t ever remember George Bush saying anything like…The election is over, we won.

Kinda points right to the childish elitists in the White House.

SgtRed on February 25, 2010 at 5:49 PM

So, if Obama and Congress change the plan significantly to pick up most of the GOP ideas, will the GOP now vote for it?

Jimbo3 on February 25, 2010 at 5:06 PM
Why should the GOP work on a plan that is obviously not needed NOW, based on the fact that the current Dem bills do not start providing benefits until 2013? The GOP should wait until they have greater number in 2011. If they own the house, a health care reform bill can start from the right and move left to get votes. Instead of starting from the left view and moving right.

WashJeff on February 25, 2010 at 5:17 PM

–WashJeff, the GOP controlled the Congress for much of the 1990s and early 2000s. The GOP never did anything with health care reform and, frankly, I doubt they would unless they were forced into it.

Jimbo3 on February 25, 2010 at 5:49 PM

SCORE!

GarandFan on February 25, 2010 at 5:50 PM

Hey guys, there’s ABSOLUTELY no need to take care of yourselves, we’re not going to be segregated into those “who take care of themselves and eat healthy” and those who don’t!!!

Whew!!!

HarryStar on February 25, 2010 at 5:50 PM

I love it when a plan comes together.

jukin on February 25, 2010 at 5:15 PM

Can’t have the quote without the voice. :)

TQM38a on February 25, 2010 at 5:50 PM

Just think…this time next year, when Teleprompter Jesus has a dispute with the GOP, the new Senate Majority Leader and Speaker of the House can simply respond, “We won, so we are going to trump you on that.”

A Balrog of Morgoth on February 25, 2010 at 5:51 PM

Isn’t that basically what the GOP asked for today?

Jimbo3 on February 25, 2010 at 5:40 PM

The GOP said in not uncertain terms, “shelf the bill and start over”.

Were you watching the Disney channel?

donh525 on February 25, 2010 at 5:51 PM

So, if Obama and Congress change the plan significantly to pick up most of the GOP ideas …

Jimbo3 on February 25, 2010 at 5:06 PM

… and stop right there – because they won’t change it.

ya2daup on February 25, 2010 at 5:52 PM

“I’d like to put this in a different kind of contextual framework.”

Whenever you hear pseudo-intelligent claptrap like that, you know that whatever follows is going to be complete bull$hiite.

greggriffith on February 25, 2010 at 5:52 PM

thanks for the clips AP. I’ve got a TEA PARTY EVENT to gits to right about now. I’ll check ya’ll back l8r.

ted c on February 25, 2010 at 5:52 PM

–WashJeff, the GOP controlled the Congress for much of the 1990s and early 2000s. The GOP never did anything with health care reform and, frankly, I doubt they would unless they were forced into it.

Jimbo3 on February 25, 2010 at 5:49 PM

Sounds good to me and most of the population of the US according to most polls. This is simply your pet issue, and not really that important.

ClassicCon on February 25, 2010 at 5:52 PM

Try it again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouf-_IA6gR8

TQM38a on February 25, 2010 at 5:52 PM

There was only one reason for this summit:
The Dems were banking on the Repubs not agreeing to attend it.

They planned on the Repubs not attending. They would then drop the health care bills (which is what they desperately want to do at this point) and then try to shift the blame and media focus on Republican “intrasigence”.

Now they are really screwed. The Repubs held their own. The majority of the public wants the thing to die. The nutroots want the Dems to keep pushing. Whether they let it die or push onward, they are totally screwed now. It’s lose all around for Obama and the Democrat vermin.

I love it.

justltl on February 25, 2010 at 5:53 PM

So the main lesson of today is: If the dentures don’t fit, you must commit?

Feels like the 90s all over again.

di butler on February 25, 2010 at 5:47 PM

Who was it that brought up the dentures, again? That was hilarious.

On another note, on Durbin’s (Durban’s?) story about tort reform (the woman who’s face was burned on the operating table), was that medical malpractice? It sound more like a failure of the oxygen-delivery device. I’m no plaintiff’s lawyer, but that sounds like products liability, not medical malpractice.

BuckeyeSam on February 25, 2010 at 5:53 PM

–WashJeff, the GOP controlled the Congress for much of the 1990s and early 2000s. The GOP never did anything with health care reform and, frankly, I doubt they would unless they were forced into it.

Jimbo3 on February 25, 2010 at 5:49 PM

democrats, party of no. We couldn’t get 60 votes!

Vince on February 25, 2010 at 5:53 PM

Wow. Our president is a jerk.

rogerb on February 25, 2010 at 5:46 PM

That’s what is most disgusting about all of this for me. I love my country. I want to respect my president, even if I disagree with him. But what does President Obama offer to respect? Really. What does he offer? He calls me and people like me “teabaggers” and stupid. He says he doesn’t care what the citizens of this fine country want, he “won” and will do what he wants. He lies all the time — huge, intentional, cynical lies. How does one muster even a tiny bit of respect for such a man? I think I understand why this man has no friends, no people from his past who have stayed in touch. He is the kind of person one simply avoids because his character is so deeply flawed, yet he is our president. Awful. Just awful.

Rational Thought on February 25, 2010 at 5:53 PM

President Custer’s last stand

stldave on February 25, 2010 at 5:53 PM

Where in the constitution is the federal government charged with maintaining people’s health?

nazo311 on February 25, 2010 at 5:46 PM

Nowhere (but you knew that already).

ya2daup on February 25, 2010 at 5:54 PM

Maybe we need to stop segregating criminals, too–just to make America more ‘fair’. I say it’s time to close all the prisons and Washington, DC!

Liam on February 25, 2010 at 5:55 PM

Sounds good to me and most of the population of the US according to most polls. This is simply your pet issue, and not really that important.

ClassicCon on February 25, 2010 at 5:52 PM

–About 75% want some sort of health care insurance reform. Haven’t you read the polls?

Jimbo3 on February 25, 2010 at 5:55 PM

One good thing came from this summit meeting. We were told why Obama will not keep his campaign promises. He told McCain he campaign is over and I won. So any promises he made to get elected he is not bound to keep.

At least he is consistent with that thought.

rsbarc011 on February 25, 2010 at 5:55 PM

In about 30 minutes the second group of liars ( Lame Stream Media ) will try and play their best take. Will they admit that the man they have so much invested in is such a big baby whining and lying fool?

bluegrass on February 25, 2010 at 5:55 PM

–It’s not. What if the bill were changed to put caps on non-economic damages,

Tort reform will never happen.

allow national exchanges (instead of state-based exchanges), allow companies to sell insurance across state lines

These are the same thing. You can’t set up a national exchange if you don’t allow policies to be sold nationwide. But this is slippery without a mechanism the continues the power of the state to regulate what is sold in said state.

and significantly expand funding for high-risk insurance pools?

The GOP asked for MORE subsidies?

Isn’t that basically what the GOP asked for today?

No.

uknowmorethanme on February 25, 2010 at 5:56 PM

There he goes again, reminding us he\’s the Precedent. And poor ole \’Rosa Parks\’ Harkin, being segregated and all. Why, people should all get shoddy health care, no matter what choices in life they may have made. Let me clear, that is exactly what he is saying.

GnuBreed on February 25, 2010 at 5:57 PM

I thought someone would yank Obama’s tail during lunch, but I was wrong.

He blah, blah, blahed during the afternoon session and totally discredited himself on the entire topic.

No, the GOP showed up and comported themselves well. They were prepared. They were sharp. They explained their own different perspectives well.

And the Dems sounded goofy.

AnninCA on February 25, 2010 at 5:57 PM

Isn’t that basically what the GOP asked for today?

Jimbo3 on February 25, 2010 at 5:40 PM
The GOP said in not uncertain terms, “shelf the bill and start over”.

Were you watching the Disney channel?

donh525 on February 25, 2010 at 5:51 PM

–I wasn’t watching it. The WSJ said the GOP was going to make those points and a few others: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703510204575085941426333512.html

Jimbo3 on February 25, 2010 at 5:57 PM

Dear Sen. Harkin:

Your words on segregation at health care summit touched me deeply… I am poor and you are rich. Please send me all your extra money so I can be equal to you and defeat this segregation. Feel free to forward large bills that I can take off your hands and make us all equal.

Warmest Regards,

American Citizen

IntheNet on February 25, 2010 at 5:58 PM

This is where Pee Wee crashed the bike……

I know I am president but what are you.

bluegrass on February 25, 2010 at 5:58 PM

–WashJeff, the GOP controlled the Congress for much of the 1990s and early 2000s. The GOP never did anything with health care reform and, frankly, I doubt they would unless they were forced into it.

Jimbo3 on February 25, 2010 at 5:49 PM

What’s Medicare Part D passed under the pubbies? Another federally mandated entitlement that will further bankrupt the country.

MoodyBlu on February 25, 2010 at 5:59 PM

–About 75% want some sort of health care insurance reform. Haven’t you read the polls?

Jimbo3 on February 25, 2010 at 5:55 PM

No, 75% want them to either scrap it altogether, or start over.

Only 25% want the crap sandwich on the menu right now.

Haven’t you read the polls?

There just simply isn’t enough time in this legislative session to start over, so the Dems are going to tie 75% of the country to a chair, and force feed us the crap sandwich.

uknowmorethanme on February 25, 2010 at 5:59 PM

So, if Obama and Congress change the plan significantly to pick up most of the GOP ideas, will the GOP now vote for it?

Jimbo3 on February 25, 2010 at 5:06 PM

Ooh – that’s a better Zen koan than “what is the sound of one hand clapping?”

gwelf on February 25, 2010 at 5:59 PM

–About 75% want some sort of health care insurance reform. Haven’t you read the polls?

Jimbo3 on February 25, 2010 at 5:55 PM

And most people want nothing to do with the Dem plans. They can’t be rehabilitated. Tell me again what’s in 2,700 pages. Putting Rube Goldberg on top of Rube Goldberg makes not sense.

Dems distinguished themselves as economic twits today. They’re those losers who always have the impractical ideas that never work. You call on them just to listen to them and then dismissive them. They’re also good to have around to pass out the food and give hugs.

BuckeyeSam on February 25, 2010 at 5:59 PM

So happy that Paul Ryan is my senator. He was great! O tried to interrupt him, too.
Can anyone tell me what Plugs was rambling on about, donut holes…effecting effects…and why doesn’t he know what people thinK?

qestout on February 25, 2010 at 6:01 PM

Jimbo3 on February 25, 2010 at 5:40 PM

There aren’t going to be changes, Obama basically said his way is the only way. Nevermind his constant refrain of “legitimate point” before saying why it really wasn’t.

He also sowed ill will by at the end saying Republicans were objecting to the bill for partisan political reasons.

Nope, I’m afraid he showed he is not open to changing anything.

KittyLowrey on February 25, 2010 at 6:01 PM

And the Dems sounded were exposed as goofy.

AnninCA on February 25, 2010 at 5:57 PM

MSM can’t hide what happened today.

uknowmorethanme on February 25, 2010 at 6:01 PM

Rational Thought on February 25, 2010 at 5:47 PM

I hope you are right!

By the way, I loved the Etch-a-Sketch analogy that was used.

carbon_footprint on February 25, 2010 at 6:04 PM

–About 75% want some sort of health care insurance reform. Haven’t you read the polls?

Jimbo3 on February 25, 2010 at 5:55 PM

No. Not the polls you are obviously reading. You need to stop looking at the illegitimate polls from MoveOn, Huffpo, Cnn, ABC, all the other lamestream media outlets trying to push their own opinion on the public.

Sporty1946 on February 25, 2010 at 6:04 PM

Harkin is wrong. He said that the more people there are in the pool, the cheaper it is for EVERYBODY.

As a 28 year old non-smoking, non-drinking marathon runner that is within their BMI and not at risk for most diseases, I’m pretty sure that my insurance would go up if I were thrown in a pool with everybody.

My husband’s rate would go up even further, because, he’s not even at ‘risk’ for pregnancy (being a man), which, I am. And, last time I checked, being pregnant and giving birth was not a cost free exercise for an insurance company.

I would still disagree with Harkin, but, I would respect him a lot more if he were honest that the rates would go down for some borne by an increase in rates for others.

JadeNYU on February 25, 2010 at 6:05 PM

Another surreal moment was when it sounded like the Army Band was playing Sousa softly in the background….

tru2tx on February 25, 2010 at 6:07 PM


About 75% want some sort of health care insurance reform. Haven’t you read the polls?

Jimbo3 on February 25, 2010 at 5:55 PM
No, 75% want them to either scrap it altogether, or start over.

Only 25% want the crap sandwich on the menu right now.

Haven’t you read the polls?

–That doesn’t mean that about 75% doesn’t want some sort of health insurance reform:

CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll. Feb. 12-15, 2010. N=1,023 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.

“What do you think Congress should do on health care: pass a health care bill similar to the legislation that Congress has been working on for the past year, start work on an entirely new bill, or stop working on any bills that would change the country’s health care system?”

2/12-15/10

Pass Similar Bill 25%

Work On New Bill 48%

Stop Working On Any Bill 25%

Other/unsure: 3%

Jimbo3 on February 25, 2010 at 6:08 PM

White Democrats really seem to know a lot about segregation. You’d think all the villains from the Civil Rights era–Lester Maddox, George Wallace, Orville Faubus, Bull Connor, etc.–were actually Democrats and not Repu…..Oh wait.

WarEagle01 on February 25, 2010 at 6:09 PM

Where in the constitution is the federal government charged with maintaining people’s health?

nazo311 on February 25, 2010 at 5:46 PM

Nowhere (but you knew that already).

ya2daup on February 25, 2010 at 5:54 P

M

Some would say general welfare.

nazo311 on February 25, 2010 at 6:09 PM

I think I understand why this man has no friends, no people from his past who have stayed in touch. He is the kind of person one simply avoids…
 
Rational Thought on February 25, 2010 at 5:53 PM

 
Good point. I never thought of it that way. I sort of figured folks were contacted and knew it was in their best interest if they didn’t make anything public. Or there was some unspoken but understood pact between similar spirits to not rat on fellow activists. But I bet you’re right. I bet he never had friends, and this cruel, petty abrasiveness is the only way he knows to interact.
 
I hope our president finds his soul before he leaves office. I hope he can write in his third memoir how he began crying in the Oval Office after seeing a photo of himself, tieless, with his feet on the Resolute desk and realizing his flaw in not recognizing the honor that was bestowed on him.
 
He won’t, of course. Well, he might write it, sure, if he thinks it sounds good and would secure the movie deal, but he’d need to prove it as president. But that’s my dream for him and my country. A road to Damascus moment.

rogerb on February 25, 2010 at 6:10 PM

SEGREGATION!!

So,now,HealthCare itself,is Racists!!

canopfor on February 25, 2010 at 6:10 PM

The only thing this event proved was how ineffective government has become.

bayam on February 25, 2010 at 5:09 PM

No, what it proved is that the Democratic dung beetles, in both houses, rolled their respective dung balls around for nearly a year and accomplished nothing. Their constituents told them repeatedly to stop; that what they were rolling around wasn’t wanted and was too expensive. Then the President hurriedly built his own dung ball and said to the GOP, “Let’s talk about what we may permit you to add to our dung ball.” And the GOP replied, “No thanks. We told you to get rid of it, but you won’t. It has always been, and will remain, a dung ball — and you own it.”

ya2daup on February 25, 2010 at 6:11 PM

ya2daup on February 25, 2010 at 6:11 PM

Hammer meets the nail square on!

Oldnuke on February 25, 2010 at 6:14 PM

Did the dead woman’s teeth ever start chattering on their own as they sat on the side table…late at night…with a clock ticking in the background…as the old woman sat alone, rocking in her chair.

*Chatter chatter*

“Who is that?”

*chatter chatter*

“Hello…is someone there?”

*chatter chatter*

Bishop on February 25, 2010 at 5:48 PM

LOL! Needed that after all the ‘blah blah…’

westmichchic on February 25, 2010 at 6:14 PM

John the Libertarian on February 25, 2010 at 5:06 PM

Props to you. I really didn’t think the pubs had the chops to stand up to Kabuki theater.

Fighton03 on February 25, 2010 at 6:14 PM

Time Division!

*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*ATTENTION*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*

Obama wants to remind everyone,that was in the room,and those Americans at home,

that HE IS the POTUSA!!

canopfor on February 25, 2010 at 6:14 PM

I meant Representative Paul Ryan…doh!

qestout on February 25, 2010 at 6:16 PM

Some would say general welfare.

nazo311 on February 25, 2010 at 6:09 PM

Yes, especially if they hadn’t got the to 10th amendment yet after reading the preamble.

Oldnuke on February 25, 2010 at 6:17 PM

I was hoping to see a Senator Boxer moment, something like: Do me a favor, Mr. President. Could you say Senator instead of John? It’s just a thing. I worked sooo hard to get that title. Yes, I’d appreciate it…

Gang-of-One on February 25, 2010 at 6:17 PM

The real battle will be in how each of the parties spin and sell the results of the summit after the summit.

NavyMustang on February 25, 2010 at 6:19 PM

No, what it proved is that the Democratic dung beetles, in both houses, rolled their respective dung balls around for nearly a year and accomplished nothing. Their constituents told them repeatedly to stop; that what they were rolling around wasn’t wanted and was too expensive. Then the President hurriedly built his own dung ball and said to the GOP, “Let’s talk about what we may permit you to add to our dung ball.” And the GOP replied, “No thanks. We told you to get rid of it, but you won’t. It has always been, and will remain, a dung ball — and you own it.”

ya2daup on February 25, 2010 at 6:11 PM

ya2aup:*Sniff*,that was beautiful!!:)

Meanwhile,the Sh*t clouds are gathering for the impending Sh*t Storm!!:)

canopfor on February 25, 2010 at 6:19 PM

Some would say general welfare.

nazo311 on February 25, 2010 at 6:09 PM

Only in 20th century socialist revisionism.

Article 1, section 8, paragraph 1 grants the power to tax to support the other properly delegated powers of the federal government. The “general welfare” statement is only a supporting argument for the power to tax.

Fighton03 on February 25, 2010 at 6:20 PM

Harkins comment: He talks about the fact that we don’t “allow segregation on race, creed, color, national origin.” Correction: It is illegal to discriminate based on those factors plus others: familial status, disability (which he mentioned), religion…
a minor distinction, but one that is important. Segregation is perfectly legal…otherwise we wouldn’t have Asian communities, Muslim Communities, ad nauseum…If it weren’t there would be mandates on the ethnic/religious/etc. make up of neighborhoods. It is the mandating of segegation is discriminatory. I am perfectly within my rights to live in an all black or all hispanic community…now an all white one??? Not so very much.
I know it is nuanced, but it’s a distinction I feel is important. Been a Realtor over 18 years. Can’t tell you the number of times I have had clients ask for a neighborhood with a particular religious or nationality make up. Here’s one case that isn’t so very unusual: A very good client of mine who was born in China but raised in the U.S. was looking at having to move her aging parents to the U.S. to be near her so she could take care of them. Neither mom or dad spoke a word of English. She wanted to find a house for them in a predominately Chinese community, and by law, I could not tell her where that might be. Had to have her research on her own where she wanted to “look at houses.”
Don’t get me wrong, I think fair housing rules are for the most part, great, but if I have a Jewish client who wants to be within walking distance of a synogogue, a muslim client who wants to make sure that there is nearby daycare available that will abide by her specific rules (or in many cases, help maintain a bi-lingual atmosphere for kids), or an out-of-towner who is a member of LDS church that wants me to forward information on where the boundary lines are for their (my word…can’t remember officially what its’ called) parishes…same applies to Catholics…I can’t do that. Heck I can’t even advertise a house as being located in a particular parish!
There was a time we couldn’t even use the word “walk-in closet” for fear of discriminating based on disability. (No kidding!)

Chewy the Lab on February 25, 2010 at 6:20 PM

The MSM won’t be able to cover Obowma’s failure today and fail he did. He knew it by halftime.

Harry kinda put himself in a corner with his Reconciliation tirade as well.

dogsoldier on February 25, 2010 at 6:21 PM

You got to love Harkin, what state is this imbecile from, Iowa, how embarrassing is it for me to have come from the state he represents?

Segregating by basis of health. That is the same as health risk. Similar to all insurance, everything is segregated by (blank) risk. Driver accident risk, segregation. Vehicle theft risk, segregation. Flood risk, segregation. Hurricane risk, segregation. Failed crops risk, segregation. Every type of insurance is risk based, if it was not, it would not be economical for anyone who was at low risk to buy insurance.

The Democrats whole plan.

1) Claim all people deserve insurance. Insurance is like pre-paid health care.
2) Claim people who are already sick or hurt need their medical payments paid most.
3) Claim the only way to pay for these medical care costs is to force insurance companies to pay for it.
4) Claim insurance companies cannot deny insurance to someone who needs their medical care paid for, even if the cause of the bills happened before getting insurance.
5) Claim insurance companies cannot discriminate against the already sick by charging more money, and have to transfer that cost of doing business to everyone that insurer covers.

Now that they have all that covered, because who wants poor sick people to not have the ability to pay for their health care? Apparently every non thinking person in the world.

The known side effects of the above plan.
1) Insurance premiums for already sick people would be drastically expensive.
2) That amounts to that discrimination Democrats were claiming above, so that is not viable.
3) The cost of the pre-existing condition sick people has to be offset to all other people using insurance.
4) The burden of this increase in premiums for health insurance will cause many healthy people with low risk to drop out of insurance, leaving just the high risk and sick people to be cared for through insurance, driving price even higher.
5) In order to prevent that price escalation, the government must force everyone to have health insurance.

Ah, the joys of socialism, and how all good deeds are indeed punished. In order to take care of the uninsured and the pre-existing problem in America, all we have to do is make everyone pay for other people’s insurance and take away the rights of everyone. Everyone must suffer to help the few.

astonerii on February 25, 2010 at 6:21 PM

“Sen. Harkin has suddenly become an advocate for all things gay…”

Seven Percent Solution on February 25, 2010 at 6:22 PM

If you have a half-gallon of sewage, adding a half gallon of clean drinking water still results in a gallon of something you shouldn’t ingest.

Midas on February 25, 2010 at 5:21 PM

Thanks for answering that. Though I’m not sure why anyone would actually need it explained./s

Gang-of-One on February 25, 2010 at 6:26 PM

All I heard was tripe. The letter Harkin read from the farmer, Raymond Smith of Buffalo City Iowa, is the brother of Dan Smith, who works for Harkin. This sort of deceit is typical of main stream democrats…

Zorro on February 25, 2010 at 6:35 PM

di butler on February 25, 2010 at 5:47 PM

That’s the funniest thing I’ve read all day. Thanks!

Jimbo – If the Dems were smart they would do what you suggest – adopt some Republican ideas into the bill; large ones, not small ones, and then dare the Republicans to vote “no” anyway. But they won’t do that because they can’t stop being hoggish about this. If they wanted to pass a bill they would have included the Stupak language in the Senate bill and they’d already have 10-12 more votes in the House for the existing bill. But that seems to be a problem for this group: they cannot stop themselves from over-reaching.

jdp629 on February 25, 2010 at 6:35 PM

Hey, wait a second…Obama is the president? Seriously?

DamnCat on February 25, 2010 at 6:47 PM

I’ve decided that I don’t so much mind watching Obama when he makes a total ass of himself.

Segregation? Wha… Democrats just can’t get beyond race.

Mojave Mark on February 25, 2010 at 6:57 PM

Time Division!

*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*ATTENTION*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*

Obama wants to remind everyone,that was in the room,and those Americans at home,

that HE IS the POTUSA!!

canopfor on February 25, 2010 at 6:14 PM

Yes, and instead he proved to the nation that he is indeed the IINOAV! (Idiot In Need Of A Village)

pilamaye on February 25, 2010 at 6:59 PM

Hey, wait a second…Obama is the president? Seriously?

DamnCat on February 25, 2010 at 6:47 PM

Well he plays one on TV…a lot.

Oldnuke on February 25, 2010 at 7:00 PM

Louise Slaughter’s anecdote about the lady who wore her dead sister’s dentures was pretty funny, too.
DaydreamBeliever on February 25, 2010 at 5:11 PM

Ha! I question the timing. I saw an ad on FNC from a trial lawyer ambulance/chaser group today who are going after Fixodent and Super-Poligrip.

Buy Danish on February 25, 2010 at 7:00 PM

So Harkin is in favor of health status insurance?

Yeah, didnt think so.

aikidoka on February 25, 2010 at 7:05 PM

David Alexrod made it clear that the President will not seriously consider any of the Republican ideas. He will think about them then proceed with his plan.

This Bozo President is a moron. Sorry thought I was on the DNC site for a second.

Steveangell on February 25, 2010 at 7:07 PM

–WashJeff, the GOP controlled the Congress for much of the 1990s and early 2000s. The GOP never did anything with health care reform and, frankly, I doubt they would unless they were forced into it.

Jimbo3 on February 25, 2010 at 5:49 PM
Seriously? Did you pay attention at all to when the Republicans ran Congress? Did they try to ram budget busting, country sinking, deeply unpopular national health care through Congress? No, of course, did they do various reforms to health care, yes (the biggest being the only major government program to come in under budget). Just because lefties don’t want to pay attention to reality doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

jarodea on February 25, 2010 at 7:14 PM

Obama threw some serious shade at McCain in that first clip. Mmmmhmmm.

lansing quaker on February 25, 2010 at 7:18 PM

Ok Harkin, which is it? If you set up pools is it going to make it cheaper or more expensive becuase you said you learned as a young man the more people in the pool the cheaper it was but, then you said if we set up pools it would make it more expensive. So, which is it?

boomer on February 25, 2010 at 7:20 PM

Another surreal moment was when it sounded like the Army Band was playing Sousa softly in the background….

tru2tx on February 25, 2010 at 6:07 PM

That might very well could’ve been the US Marine Corps band at Marine Barracks, 8th and I St, in Wash, DC. They do a lot of Sousa, and they could have been practicing for thier upcoming sunset ceremonies. They’re about the only thing worthwhile in that whole darn town.

jdawg on February 25, 2010 at 7:22 PM

“John”. Did “John” adress him as “Barack”? I doubt it…

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on February 25, 2010 at 7:22 PM

All I heard was tripe. The letter Harkin read from the farmer, Raymond Smith of Buffalo City Iowa, is the brother of Dan Smith, who works for Harkin. This sort of deceit is typical of main stream democrats…

Zorro on February 25, 2010 at 6:35 PM

Wow. I can’t wait for the WaPo or the NYT to get that out there… /sarc

jdawg on February 25, 2010 at 7:25 PM

So promises one makes while campaigning go out the window once the campaign is over; by that logic, I guess one can break one’s marriage vows once the wedding day is over…

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on February 25, 2010 at 7:26 PM

Dem/lib/socialist shit stinks and I am glad everyone could smell of it. Toilet water, all right! And did you see that pile of crap “sitting” on the desk? That pile of crap they call a bill?? That thing is higher than the World Trade Center which never got put together again. Shameful.It looks to be one foot taller than Ground Zero which is still at ground level and actually just a big basement. Shameful.

Sherman1864 on February 25, 2010 at 7:26 PM

I wish McCain would have called him “Barack” after Barack kept addressing him as “John.”

PattyJ on February 25, 2010 at 7:30 PM

I kept telling the naysayers that the Republicans had to show up. Where do I get my “I told you so” blue ribbon?
-John the Libertarian

I owe you one.

motionview on February 25, 2010 at 7:30 PM

The segregation part was extra funny in light of Obama’s support for a separate but equal law system in Hawaii for natives vs haolies (is that how you say white people, Kini?)

NTWR on February 25, 2010 at 7:32 PM

Dirty Dingus Magee in platitudes.

Speakup on February 25, 2010 at 8:00 PM

Democrat Sen. Harkin played the race card. Epic Silly!

Um, Auto Insurance companies segregate; don’t pay your premium, Mr. Harkin and you’ll find out. Also, auto insurance companies will put you in a “pool” of higher payers if you get too many speeding tickets/reckless driving.

Hey, I’m all for everyone flying in first-class; as long as everyone pays for their own ticket. My family budget can no longer support those making a career out of living off the taxpayers. Want FREE healthcare? Chip in. Pay up.

TN Mom on February 25, 2010 at 8:06 PM

Tom Harkin knows nothing about insurance. Its been my profession for 30 years. Yep, the law of large numbers is simply when you add all the premium of many in a “pool” it will pay for the claims of a few. But within that “pool” insurance companies classify risk based on “experience”. What the dems propose is a “pool” with premium caps taking away an insurance company’s ability to class and rate an individual based on loss experience. So everyone will pay more based on the experience of a few, rather than charging the few a fair premium based on their own experience. And that my friends (McCain-ism), socialism.

jbh45 on February 25, 2010 at 8:08 PM

Credit card companies/banks segregate based on your credit history. Filed bankruptsy? You’ll pay huge interest rates!

TN Mom on February 25, 2010 at 8:15 PM

Guess the GOP can take on the Community Organizer in Chief after all. Who’d a thunk it!

chickasaw42 on February 25, 2010 at 8:32 PM

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