Gallup poll shows Democrats have most to lose at the summit

posted at 3:50 pm on February 25, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

If Barack Obama hoped to put Republicans on the defensive by holding a health-care summit today, a new Gallup poll shows that he may have miscalculated badly.  Instead of holding Republicans responsible for not agreeing with Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid, survey responders say that Democrats had better convince Republicans to move — or be prepared to start over from scratch.  A majority outright oppose any attempt to push ObamaCare through Congress using reconciliation as well:

Americans are skeptical that lawmakers will agree on a new healthcare bill at Thursday’s bipartisan healthcare summit in Washington, D.C. If an agreement is not reached, Americans by a 49% to 42% margin oppose rather than favor Congress passing a healthcare bill similar to the one proposed by President Obama and Democrats in the House and Senate. By a larger 52% to 39% margin, Americans also oppose the Democrats in the Senate using a reconciliation procedure to avoid a possible Republican filibuster and pass a bill by a simple majority vote. …

Not only are 49% of Americans opposed to passing a bill similar to the one proposed by Obama and the Democrats in the House and Senate, compared with 42% in favor, those “strongly” opposed outnumber those “strongly” in favor by 23% to 11%.

A follow-up question asked specifically about the use of a parliamentary procedure that would allow the Democratic leaders to avoid a Republican filibuster. Again, Americans are opposed by a slightly larger, 52% to 39% margin, and those opposed are more likely to feel strongly about their opinion than those in favor, 25% to 11%.

How out of step are Democrats on this effort?  Among independents, reconciliation gets opposed 38/53, although they split evenly on support of current bills in Congress, 48/49.  However, far more independents strongly oppose those bills (24%) than strongly favor them (8%).  In contrast, 68% of Democrats favor using reconciliation to jam the bill down the throats of the opposition, and 70% favor the Democratic bills — although only 21% favor them strongly.

The summit has not raised expectations among any group; skepticism on results runs from 71% for Democrats to 87% for Republicans, with independents in between at the overall average of 77%.  However, it has left Democrats in a tough position.  The numbers on ObamaCare among the public have hardly budged in three months, remaining deeply unpopular with voters in any sampling type (this is among adults in general, rather than registered or likely voters).  Pushing reconciliation makes it even less popular and will likely fuel more Tea Party protests and a disastrous midterm election.  How can Democrats move forward without committing political suicide?

Obama apparently has an incremental approach up his sleeve, as we reported earlier.  While Gallup didn’t specifically survey on this question, moving away from the comprehensive reforms demanded by Pelosi at the beginning of the summit would do two things for Obama that he desperately needs — one, give him a victory on health care in any form, and two, allow him to drop the issue before his polling numbers begin to resemble those of George Bush in his last two years as President.  The question will be whether the Congressional Democrats will follow where Obama will lead them, and since Obama hasn’t shown any leadership on his domestic agenda all year, it’s going to be anybody’s guess how or if he’ll succeed.  Gallup’s poll shows that voters will hang this on Democrats no matter which way it goes, but especially if they do something other than start over from scratch.


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So Obama is not even going to get a fake bump in polls?

Sir Napsalot on February 25, 2010 at 3:53 PM

“The difference between 1994 and now is you’ve got me.” Let’s see how many Dems suddenly find the need to have more family time.

His Awesomeness lost his touch.

Sir Napsalot on February 25, 2010 at 3:56 PM

Mmmmm Mmm Mmmmmm Barack Hussein LameDucky

Bishop on February 25, 2010 at 3:56 PM

shows that he may have miscalculated badly.

Thats pretty much this “genius’s” brain on a daily basis. Outside of his actual election I’ve never seen proof our super cool President is smart or knows how to strategize. Too arrogant for it.

Sharr on February 25, 2010 at 3:58 PM

The Rasmussen Poll says it all. Only 21% Say U.S. Government Has Consent of the Governed. Imagine if they had polled all of us? It would be a smaller percentage.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/february_2010/only_21_say_u_s_government_has_consent_of_the_governed

Dr Evil on February 25, 2010 at 3:58 PM

I think this summit is going to help Obama’s poll numbers, personally, but it still won’t translate into any more support for his policies.

The press is going to go on and on about how fantastically smart Obama is to be able to go for 6 hours (without a teleprompter) — comparing him either explicitly or implicitly to their caricaturization of Bush, and it will probably bump him up above 50% for a while.

But most Americans just don’t want the kinds of things he and the Democrats are offering. There’s no getting around that reality.

notropis on February 25, 2010 at 3:59 PM

The Democrat Party: a carrier being kamikazied by its own planes.

Everything they do is wrong, stupid, or evil. They have no redeeming qualities.

No organization becomes this incomptent without divine assistance.

Akzed on February 25, 2010 at 3:59 PM

If they weren’t able to pass this thing last August when the conditions were far more favorable to them, what on earth makes them think they’re going to pass it now?

But by all means, continue to waste time on this so you can’t work on the rest of your horrendous agenda.

NoDonkey on February 25, 2010 at 3:59 PM

Last minute march on Washington D.C. in 5…..4…..3…..

PappyD61 on February 25, 2010 at 4:02 PM

Obama ” polls don’t count I am the president”.

fourdeucer on February 25, 2010 at 4:02 PM

Cue Mr. Burns from The Simpsons: Eeeeexcellent.

Byzantine on February 25, 2010 at 4:03 PM

SMART Power!!111111111!!eleventy

jukin on February 25, 2010 at 4:04 PM

No organization becomes this incomptent without divine assistance.

Akzed on February 25, 2010 at 3:59 PM

They do have Teh One/Teh Messiah.

CPL 310 on February 25, 2010 at 4:05 PM

In contrast, 68% of Democrats favor using reconciliation to jam the bill down the throats of the opposition, and 70% favor the Democratic bills — although only 21% favor them strongly.
_________________________

In other words, the Democrats just want to stick one in the eye of Republicans. Future of the nation be damned.

uknowmorethanme on February 25, 2010 at 4:05 PM

I am just glad that Gallup used pretty colors and pictures so that I could understand! Math is hard!

search4truth on February 25, 2010 at 4:05 PM

SMART Power!!111111111!!eleventy

jukin on February 25, 2010 at 4:04 PM

This is just the result of the burden of being so bright.

CPL 310 on February 25, 2010 at 4:05 PM

If Barack Obama hoped to put Republicans on the defensive by holding a health-care summit today, a new Gallup poll shows that he may have miscalculated badly.

That was not the reason for this sham summit. It was not to put the GOP on the defensive, but to revive a bill that America had considered dead – for the 11th time. The bill is now revived, though it is still hated as much as it always was.

neurosculptor on February 25, 2010 at 4:06 PM

This was a mess for the dems, from telling whoppers to their being unprepared for the thing, to Obama hogging the mike..I suspect when the polling come sin the dems will realize they failed big and the scheming will move to reconciliation and process to cram the scheme down the nations throat…

The rest of the year will be democrat congress critters polishing their resume’s.

JIMV on February 25, 2010 at 4:07 PM

If they weren’t already this is going to completely turn off the public to this guy even more…what a joke. Enough with the lame stories ladies…

TheAudacityofNOPE on February 25, 2010 at 4:08 PM

I am sick of both sides not understanding the difference between health insurance and health coverage.

I’m really sorry if some people have to pay for medical problem, but their problem is not my problem.

And as a smoker and a drinker I resent being lumped in with people who have preexisting conditions. I don’t have any preexisting conditions. Yet. When I do I expect to pay for it.

Jaynie59 on February 25, 2010 at 4:08 PM

Jaynie59 on February 25, 2010 at 4:08 PM

We smokers already pay tons extra for health care, every time we buy a pack of cigarettes. The cigarette taxes are nothing short of highway robbery. And don’t forget that $250 billion judgment against the tobacco companies (that also got tagged onto our costs). Whatever happened to that money? Gone …

neurosculptor on February 25, 2010 at 4:11 PM

Jay Nordlinger has an interesting observation at The Corner:

“Let me try something out on you: This health-care summit was a bad idea for the Democrats for this reason: They have long benefited from a perception — a perception greatly abetted by the media: The Republicans don’t care about health care, they don’t know about health care, they are the Party of No. All the ideas and caring are on the Democratic side.

It is not so, and it has never been so. And now everybody knows it.”

notropis on February 25, 2010 at 4:13 PM

Shep Smith is so irritating. Yes, we heard the same old Democrat talking points, but don’t tell me you’ve heard all of this from the G.O.P. before.

But I don’t blame him for being annoyed that they’ve lost ad revenue.

Buy Danish on February 25, 2010 at 4:14 PM

So Obama is not even going to get a fake bump in polls?

Sir Napsalot on February 25, 2010 at 3:53 PM

Yep, not even a dead cat bounce. More like a dead slug bounce — splat.

johnsteele on February 25, 2010 at 4:22 PM

hmmmm hmmm hmmmph Barracky Husein Lameducky … Too good to not repeat.

tarpon on February 25, 2010 at 4:23 PM

This is the end result of thinking that you are “smarter” then the people and that the American people are stupid.

this is the end result of elitism

this is why liberalism, dictatorships, kings and Queens, marxism and Rinoism always fail.

Once you belive you are the smartest people in the room the rest of the people become things and below your time or worry.

this will not end well for the elites

unseen on February 25, 2010 at 4:26 PM

“Barrying” the Democrat Party. Priceless!

chickasaw42 on February 25, 2010 at 4:30 PM

neurosculptor on February 25, 2010 at 4:11 PM

It’s not just the taxes I pay as a smoker and drinker. Hell, I’ve given up even thinking about that. It’s the price I’m willing to pay to smoke and drink.

But pre-existing conditions? WTF? This is insurance. WOuld you sell homeowners insurance to someone whose house is on fire? No. WOuld you sell car insurance to someone with 10 speeding tickets and 3 DUI’s? No.

Insurance is a risk pool. Those of us in the pool bet we won’t need it while it pays out claims based on who does file a claim. And those people then get put in a higher risk pool.

Medical insurance works completely ass backwards. It pays for regular oil changes to prevent engine failure and then people scream about the cost of engine failure.

I’m sorry if you have diabetes or your kid has a cleft palate. That’s got nothing to do with health insurance.

Jaynie59 on February 25, 2010 at 4:34 PM

The GOP did great today. Another idiotic misstep by Obama.

Things will even be worse after this sham of a summit when they ignore everything said today and push the exact same clusterfark bill down our throats.

Chuck Schick on February 25, 2010 at 4:44 PM

Let’s see how many Dems suddenly find the need to have more family time.
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Yup, or change parties.They have to know by now that their dear leader could not care less about them.

ohiobabe on February 25, 2010 at 4:48 PM

Now that the summit is over, it’s time to plan the next Obama infomercial . . .

Because let’s face it, it’s all he’s got.

NoDonkey on February 25, 2010 at 4:54 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RykeFKvvhAA

This guy is dingle!!!

TheAudacityofNOPE on February 25, 2010 at 4:55 PM

Obama needs to work smarder not harter.

jukin on February 25, 2010 at 4:59 PM

Business sucked today.
But HotAir was great!

barnone on February 25, 2010 at 5:06 PM

But pre-existing conditions? WTF? This is insurance. WOuld you sell homeowners insurance to someone whose house is on fire? No. WOuld you sell car insurance to someone with 10 speeding tickets and 3 DUI’s? No.

Insurance is a risk pool. Those of us in the pool bet we won’t need it while it pays out claims based on who does file a claim. And those people then get put in a higher risk pool.

Medical insurance works completely ass backwards. It pays for regular oil changes to prevent engine failure and then people scream about the cost of engine failure.

I’m sorry if you have diabetes or your kid has a cleft palate. That’s got nothing to do with health insurance.

Jaynie59 on February 25, 2010 at 4:34 PM

–So what would you do about people who are terminated by their employer (with employer-provided insurance) and then can’t get insurance in the individual market because of pre-existing conditions?

Jimbo3 on February 25, 2010 at 5:16 PM

Carefully set trap traps trapper

Waterloo
Mmmm mmm mmm!

petefrt on February 25, 2010 at 5:27 PM

Obama and Company are TOAST! Let ‘em hang themselves with their own rope!

GarandFan on February 25, 2010 at 5:54 PM

The most loss to me today was, Fox did not have Glenn on till the last 20 minutes. The rest of the day was on mute.
I can not believe how this bho can be such a wind bag for hours and have zero to say!
L

letget on February 25, 2010 at 7:27 PM

As I had said in much earlier post, the point of today’s dog-and-pony show was to provide the ‘rats the pretext to begin ramming this abomination up our backsides.

In that light, today’s exercise falls into the EPIC FAIL category.

The mantra of ‘they’re the party of NO’ fell apart like a puff of smoke in a strong breeze.

The GOP boogie man didn’t show up today, but an arrogant, imperious President [and his minions] did.

This meeting opened no doors, nor smoothed any paths insofar as ‘reconciliation’ is concerned. Nor will it change the public’s opinion [or mood] on the issue.

The ‘rats proceed at their own peril, and I might add, with no guarantee that their own ‘rank and file’ won’t ‘flinch’ when push comes to shove.

Especially after today.

CPT. Charles on February 25, 2010 at 7:32 PM