Do we need the FDA?
posted at 3:20 pm on February 25, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
John Stossel got a lot of angry mail over his recent contention that the Food and Drug Administration amounted to an unnecessary and burdensome exercise of federal authority. Stossel argues that the FDA (and also the DEA) should interfere less with our liberties and let consumers protect themselves. Tonight, he’ll address the question on his Fox show, but in the meantime he responds to his critics on his blog, including this post from Frances Martel at Mediaite, prompted by Stossel’s appearance on Bill O’Reilly’s show:
Stossel argued that private consumer reports would be enough to keep the companies on their toes, but a private system would be based on trial and error and on trusting the drug companies, with no authority to coerce them into honesty. Stossel’s “private” version of the FDA would look something like the current news media, with consumers picking and choosing who they trust based on personal biases. This works great in a field where the product of consumption is the bias itself, but when the product of consumption can potentially kill the consumer, the stakes change and an impartial authority should take control. This segment was likely a victory for O’Reilly.
Stossel says he’s not asking for blind trust:
They miss the point. A “private system” is not simply based on “trusting drug companies.” Competition leads both drug companies and private regulators to be trustworthy. If they are not trustworthy, they die. Fear of losing business and fear of lawsuits (some lawsuits are useful) “coerce them into honesty.” American food makers rarely poison us today not because of government regulation, which is largely ineffectual, but because they know that if they poison their customers, they’ll go out of business.
My bigger point is that allowing the FDA to hold a total monopoly on drug testing and allowing the DEA to limit pain medication deprives free people of the right to medicate themselves. If I am dying, how dare the FDA tell me I may not take an experimental medication! If I am in terrible pain, how dare the DEA limit the pain reliever that I take. It’s my body. Leave me alone.
There is a private-sector middle ground between government control and blind trust. In many industries, that is provided by insurers to make sure that products and services are genuine, safe, and tested. The most well known of these, Underwriters Laboratories, performs the FDA function in the private sector on a wide range of products and services. Hardly any consumer electronics gets sold today without the UL label on it. The certification process costs manufacturers and other providers a pretty penny — and I can tell you this from personal experience.
In my former industry, burglary/fire alarm services, businesses and residences can get insurance-premium breaks when they install alarm systems and have them monitored by UL-certified providers. UL requires providers to meet a lengthy series of requirements on manufacturing, installation, and service, and the providers pay thousands of dollars every year to retain their certification. Factory Mutual provides a parallel certification, mainly in fire systems, which competes with UL. Each monitoring facility gets an annual inspection to ensure compliance, and UL follows up on complaints from consumers to determine whether certification should be suspended. It’s a powerful compliance incentive, and it comes completely separate from any government intervention.
Could that same process be used for pharmaceuticals? It’s difficult to see why it couldn’t — and I’d bet UL itself would jump into that space quickly, especially since insurers already pay for much of the prescription medication on the market. They would have more incentive to expedite research and hold pharmaceuticals accountable for their actions, since the underwriters themselves would be on the hook for failures. Other associations would form to compete, and consumers (and insurers) would be able to make the decision on which organization to trust most. Meanwhile, the government could get out of a process in which it clearly has no authority to intrude, and for which it presents a nearly-unaccountable stumbling block for quick turnaround on new treatments.
We can argue whether that would be the best approach, but let’s not kid ourselves that government control is the only approach for consumer safety.
Update: I’m told that Stossel has also used UL on occasion to exemplify the potential for private-sector compliance, so I’ve edited out the reference that Stossel missed that point in his blog post.









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But-but-but…big corporations are too big to fail!
Oh wait.
MadisonConservative on February 25, 2010 at 3:22 PM
John Stossel looks like a cross between Scott Brown and Tom Selleck.
DaydreamBeliever on February 25, 2010 at 3:23 PM
Maybe we should go to a Department of Homeland Security model. Drugs could be sold with green-yellow-orange-red labels accordint to their possible side effects, and Janet Napolitano could give everyone a physical exam on the way out of the pharmacy.
percysunshine on February 25, 2010 at 3:26 PM
Look on the Drudge report left-hand side for the story on McCain conspiring with the FDA to limit vitamin and supplement freedom.
The Dean on February 25, 2010 at 3:26 PM
I would rather the government not handle my food.
upinak on February 25, 2010 at 3:27 PM
This is a BS argument. I’m as conservative as they come, but there has to be some regulation for drugs in the market. Individuals can’t do that. Now, i don’t care what govt does it, it can be state or federal, but there has to be absolutely some regulation.
I actually think the FDA is working pretty well for a federal agency. They all usually suck, but the FDA has done some remarkable things, including the recall of certain drugs which have exhibited harmful side effects. I know we think too much govt is bad, but that doesn’t mean that there should be no regulation what so ever. This place would be like the wild west, and that won’t be good for anybody.
Chudi on February 25, 2010 at 3:28 PM
Magnum 41.
MadisonConservative on February 25, 2010 at 3:30 PM
Also, after finding sanitary problems with the contaminated peanuts at a factory in 2001, the FDA didn’t do any follow up for 8 years.
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FDA isn’t just unnecessary, it is damaging because it gives a false sense of security even after not doing the job well, and restricts customer choice.
The Dean on February 25, 2010 at 3:30 PM
<blockquoteLook on the Drudge report left-hand side for the story on McCain conspiring with the FDA to limit vitamin and supplement freedom.
The Dean on February 25, 2010 at 3:26 PM
What exactly is wrong with that. I think the FDA should regulate these things to make sure people are not killing themselves. You would be surprised the number of people we have seen in the hospital who have liver damage and kidney damage because of taking these pills. It’s absolutely crazy, and that is cause nobody warned them about it.
There should be some oversight on these drugs, cus that’s what they are.
Chudi on February 25, 2010 at 3:31 PM
I think my favorite FDA regulation is the requirement to wear a protective gown, eyewear, and gloves when preparing or using a 10% bleach solution used to clean surfaces.
malclave on February 25, 2010 at 3:31 PM
It works well until they don’t check the food processing factories and even worse don’t tell anyone they don’t check them. If you can’t check them, the send e-mails to suppliers. What they did, it comes across likethey forgot.
Plus since they have a monopoly on food and drug check, then there aren’t competing agencies to check their work. If they’re doing a poor job (which they are) then there’s no recourse.
The Dean on February 25, 2010 at 3:34 PM
Okay I am not backing up Dean, but lets talk drugs. It isn’t like they are keeping a good eye on those either.
Yet when there is something seriously wrong with the drugs being pushed out and the FDA is supposedly checking them, it isn’t the FDA who is responsible for the problems it is the companies making the drugs… which the FDA was suppose to check and look into.
A cycle of problems that don’t seem to be slowing down.
upinak on February 25, 2010 at 3:34 PM
NO!!!!!!!!!!
lilium on February 25, 2010 at 3:35 PM
Having come from the pharma industry, companies do fear lawsuits and investors more than the FDA. Sure, the FDA can come in and shut you down, but you’re going to get a whole lot of wrist slaps before they chain and lock the doors (under most circumstances).
citrus on February 25, 2010 at 3:35 PM
Let’s ask ourselves if we need the EPA or the Department of Energy first.
BackwardsBoy on February 25, 2010 at 3:36 PM
What business is that of the government or yours? I don’t take them at all I get all the supplements I need from carrots and potatoes. If you want to take them then accept the risks and be assured that I could care less what you ingest. If you are dumb enough to buy into that supplement horse pockey then more power to you but the government doesn’t need to be involved.
Oldnuke on February 25, 2010 at 3:38 PM
Love you, dude! (in a totally hetero way, tho..)
Quetzal on February 25, 2010 at 3:38 PM
Come on Chudi, take the training wheels off!
rock the casbah on February 25, 2010 at 3:38 PM
The argument about which is better aside, can someone please show me where in the Constitution is found the basis for the FDA.
Vashta.Nerada on February 25, 2010 at 3:38 PM
You can thank ol’ Teddy Roosevelt for that move.
mizflame98 on February 25, 2010 at 3:38 PM
Unfortunately I can’t stay and argue, but the basic point is it shouldn’t be up to government bureaucrats what free people put in their body, they do a horrible job anyway, and this will double the cost of drugs. It’s like the bill to ban the import of cheaper prescriptions. Unnecessary.
The Dean on February 25, 2010 at 3:39 PM
We need the FDA more than we do the EPA or the Dept. of Agriculture, or the Federal Dept. of Education. Or the
Good Lt on February 25, 2010 at 3:40 PM
Prior restraint is the most expensive and least efficient option.
Vashta.Nerada on February 25, 2010 at 3:40 PM
Chudi
Conservatism and libertarian isn’t the same. I prefer less government and less regulation then more government and more regulation.
jdun on February 25, 2010 at 3:40 PM
Yeah, right after he read The Jungle and threw his sausage out the white house window.
Oldnuke on February 25, 2010 at 3:42 PM
Does Underwriters Labs take consumer complaints themselves or does the drug manufacturer? Who determines standards for efficacy and safety in the licensing process? How are those determined? Who does quality assurance on production batches and packaging?
a capella on February 25, 2010 at 3:42 PM
Actually, Ed, I think you may be missing the point. The point is we don’t have to argue, just let the free market determine the best way for consumers to get/purchase the best medicine.
What Paul Ryan said today in the HC summit (to decentralize) exactly applies here.
beselfish on February 25, 2010 at 3:42 PM
Damn, what HASN’T that man touched? I can’t drill due to a federal park. I can’t fih because the EPA and the Federal F&W won’t let me to “protect the salmon”, I can’t hunt because the caribou will die or something even thought the WANDER….
Teddy the Obama of the beginning of the 20th Century.
upinak on February 25, 2010 at 3:42 PM
Yep, and the list goes on and on and on. Why stop with the FDA? I’d like to start with the IRS.
Oldnuke on February 25, 2010 at 3:43 PM
Abolish the FDA, then the Bureau of Indian Affairs, then the Dept. of Energy, then the Dept. of Education, then the USDA, then OSHA.
daesleeper on February 25, 2010 at 3:44 PM
Come on… lets go up higher. How about the Senate and the House?
upinak on February 25, 2010 at 3:44 PM
Mac’s hero!
MeatHeadinCA on February 25, 2010 at 3:44 PM
Would you care to actually support that claim? Or are naked assertions the limit of your ability?
Stossel and the captain have presented solid arguments that private regulation could work. Care to take on those arguments, or are you just going to bury your head in the sand and declare that only govt can be trusted?
MarkTheGreat on February 25, 2010 at 3:44 PM
I know what you mean but we actually need them. OF course we could put their “Pecans” in a vice and tighten it up a little :-)
Oldnuke on February 25, 2010 at 3:45 PM
You admit that govt oversight is a failure, yet you argue that only govt oversight can work.
Strange.
MarkTheGreat on February 25, 2010 at 3:46 PM
I don’t see how Stossel is missing the point, BUT I’d like to point out that what he says isn’t exactly true… If the government keeps the untrustworthy company afloat, they don’t die…
MeatHeadinCA on February 25, 2010 at 3:46 PM
There is already a private group that regulates the frequency and combination of drugs that a patient is allowed to take. They are called pharmacists.
I think Stossel’s only problem is narcotics. We cannot trust individuals to regulate themselves when it comes to opiates.
Bill C on February 25, 2010 at 3:46 PM
I live in an area where many people I know work in large pharmaceutical companies. The number of people they employ just to manage regulatory affairs is large. The paperwork involved in getting even a next-generation of an existing drug approved by the FDA is staggering. This is money they are not spending on research and clinical trials that could save lives. I have no doubt that excessive regulation of drug development and production kills people, and also reduces profits and limits further employment and economic growth.
The only thing I can see that this regime does well is create jobs for FDA bureaucrats and “regulatory affairs” jobs in the drug companies. If I knew anything about that industry I would never have to worrry about having a job. The papers and websites around here are stuffed with openings for regulatory affairs people, most with six-figure salaries.
rockmom on February 25, 2010 at 3:47 PM
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Akzed on February 25, 2010 at 3:47 PM
Ed, I believe Stossel referenced UL as one alternative to government intervention. I know he’s said it before, and I swear he said it on O’Reilly.
Free Constitution on February 25, 2010 at 3:47 PM
I love Stossel, but he’s wrong on this one.
FDA function is needed – private or government. Otherwise, we’ll end up with a bunch of snake oil salesman.
Placebo efficacy is the problem. I don’t believe we should allow the sale of placebos – even though they do work.
Now, who is in a best position to determine placebo from drug?
Ed, I don’t think UL would even try to do this. It’s completely outside their area of expertise.
blink on February 25, 2010 at 3:47 PM
Chestnuts aren’t worthy?
upinak on February 25, 2010 at 3:47 PM
The irony is Upton Sinclare wasn’t out to bash how our food is produced. He was trying to bash capitalism and and say socialism was the way to go. Talk about unintended consequences.
mizflame98 on February 25, 2010 at 3:48 PM
I regulate my opiate intake just fine.
Akzed on February 25, 2010 at 3:48 PM
When a private regulator screws up, they run the risk of going out of business.
When a govt regulator screws up, they get rewarded with a bigger budget and more inspectors.
MarkTheGreat on February 25, 2010 at 3:48 PM
Why not? We trust them with prescription drugs, alcohol and ciggies – as well as sex (thinking of Tiger, here ^^ )
MeatHeadinCA on February 25, 2010 at 3:48 PM
One pharm company I worked for had gotten in deep doo-doo with the FDA, most for shoddy record-keeping. They faced a five year consent decree, meaning they couldn’t do much of anything without FDA permission. In further compliance, they changed their entire system, and those fixes later became part of the FDA’s required standard, so innovative and complete were the fixes.
The FDA tends to work well, so I have no solid objections to it right now. If the private sector can do just as well, if not better, then let it be proven. If so, relegate the FDA to no more than an oversight role of the private sector testing standards, if not shutting it down completely.
Liam on February 25, 2010 at 3:49 PM
The FDA regulating Sex? Er, oh wait… condoms and birth control.
We are doomed.
upinak on February 25, 2010 at 3:50 PM
Also there is rampant off-market use of all kinds of drugs by doctors. It takes years for the FDA to catch up with a lot of things doctors and patients figure out on their own. Birth-control pills still are not approved as anti-acne drugs, but many doctors precribe them for acne because they work for some people. There are dozens of examples of this sort of thing.
rockmom on February 25, 2010 at 3:50 PM
Further, I’d add that honestly, we can’t trust people to regulate their behavior… Look at the obesity rate in this country. That said, do you want to regulate their fat intake?
MeatHeadinCA on February 25, 2010 at 3:50 PM
How about liqour? Can we trust individuals to regulate themselves there? On a more personal note why is it that we can’t trust you not to use opiates to excess? You are an individual, are you not?
Oldnuke on February 25, 2010 at 3:50 PM
Heheh
Well, someone here did say that McCain wants to have the FDA regulate anything you put in your mouth (forgot the poster).
MeatHeadinCA on February 25, 2010 at 3:51 PM
If people want an FDA and/or DEA, amend the constitution to grant such powers to the federal government to make those agencies constitutional.
I believe private companies can handle the certification of drugs, and food if necessary.
I could live with the SEC. Let Dow Jones and NASDAQ determine the reporting standards for companies that list with them. If you think they are criminals, do not invest in stocks.
WashJeff on February 25, 2010 at 3:52 PM
The FDA can be gamed just like any other regulator. Look into the approval of Splenda. You won’t eat it if you do.
rockmom on February 25, 2010 at 3:52 PM
The FDA and the EPA have both outlived their usefulness. The combination of faster communication and public pressure mean that any organization that screws the public will suffer a firestorm of controversy. Unless they have a monopoly, they can expect to lost tons of business.
hawksruleva on February 25, 2010 at 3:52 PM
Look, it is called personal responsibility. I know, a hard “pill” to swallow.
Why do I need someone to tell me how to take something, that shouldn’t be regulated to begin with? Such as food. Or how about ointment for scratches…
But then… I guess the government need to regulate you for running around telling everyone else how to do things. Wait, it will happen.
upinak on February 25, 2010 at 3:52 PM
Give the lady a cigar! Absolutely correct, it was just one of those unintended consequences. Roosevelt was very suspect of Sinclair’s motives and sent his own hit team to Chicago to check things out.
Oldnuke on February 25, 2010 at 3:53 PM
My problem with the FDA is that the deck is stacked in favor of disapproval. If the FDA approves a drug and it ends up harming or killing people, they catch hell. If the FDA doesn’t approve a drug, they don’t catch hell from everyone who could benefit from treatment with that drug, who die or are harmed because they can’t get it.
The defining moment in the history of the FDA was thalidomide. It was approved in Europe and began to produce deformed babies, but was still caught in regulatory red tape in the US, so none happened here. The FDA agency culture learned that delay is good, because delay caused the FDA to dodge a bullet in that case.
I think that federal approval of new drugs is fine, but I’d like to seem some sort of acknowledgement that delay in approval has its own price.
Steven Den Beste on February 25, 2010 at 3:53 PM
He needs to regulate his daughter first. the worry about the rest of his family before spreading out.
upinak on February 25, 2010 at 3:53 PM
Well, he already has her mouth taped shut.
MeatHeadinCA on February 25, 2010 at 3:55 PM
I wonder what’s the politically best way to get rid of something like the FDA. If any politician declared that he wanted to shut down the FDA, he’d be laughed out of office. Perhaps the best way to do it is to de-centralize it, by mandating that every state create its own list of approved/disapproved foods and pharmaceuticals. This would be cheered by the pot-legalization folks as well as federalists.
The FDA would remain as a “public option” to actually do the testing, but what you will have done is de-coupled the testing agency (federal) with the authority that consumes test results (the states) so that some other testing agency (like UL) could potentially out-compete the FDA and make it redundant.
joe_doufu on February 25, 2010 at 3:56 PM
That was his wife.
upinak on February 25, 2010 at 3:57 PM
I thought both Mac-ettes did it…
MeatHeadinCA on February 25, 2010 at 3:58 PM
Yup. I agree 100%.
E9RET on February 25, 2010 at 3:58 PM
You can definately thank Sinclair for the California chapter of the ACLU.
mizflame98 on February 25, 2010 at 3:59 PM
I admit, I’m wishy washy on this. But in light of the fact that so many pharmacueticals are in court cases, because they caused the death of someone, means the FDA didn’t quite do a thorough job…did they? Can they be bought off by big pharma’s so the big pharma’s can get the drug on the market?
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capejasmine on February 25, 2010 at 4:01 PM
What? A private underwriter for all of our food and drugs?
How would the insurer be held accountable? Multiple insurance companies?
Then how will the customer trust one over the other?
ckoeber on February 25, 2010 at 4:02 PM
Not a FIFY, but an alternate POV.
CPL 310 on February 25, 2010 at 4:02 PM
This is why we send our kids to private school.
Niere on February 25, 2010 at 4:02 PM
Thankfully I don’t anyway. I like old-fashioned cane sugar.
Sometimes, too, the FDA is a bit knee-jerk. In the 90s, a new painkiller was approved that stopped all kinds of chronic pain that opiates and others couldn’t relieve. I think it was an herbal derivative that was quite a breakthrough. Except it caused total liver failure if used for longer than 30 days.
After some people died, the FDA pulled the drug. The fault didn’t lie with the pharm company that developed it, for they knew the dangers and made all the required warnings. Doctors, however, either failed to monitor their patients’ live enzymes as they should have, or stopped issuing prescriptions after the time limit expired.
So, we’re stuck without a superb painkiller for good, because of what seems to be an over-reaction by the FDA.
Liam on February 25, 2010 at 4:04 PM
Taking the global warming out of this question, I think we still need the EPA. What would stop companies from dumping their crap in lakes and the ocean?
Department of Energy, maybe.
ckoeber on February 25, 2010 at 4:06 PM
There’s no doubt there should be some kind of oversight or “checks and balances” towards many things. Government is not necessarily an evil when it comes to this. It’s just what is the ideal level of intrusion, if that intrusion is necessary. As long as the FDA is an impartial referee and doesn’t arbitrarily hinder innovation then fine, let them keep doing it – it’s a right and proper function of government to ensure minimum standards are met, and be accountable themselves to the people. If the UL can do it better – then even better! But something other than the pure free market needs to set standards.
JeffWeimer on February 25, 2010 at 4:08 PM
The FDA is another example of an FDR “success story”. It was created in response to the following incident:
It seems prudent to have drugs tested for safety, and Ed’s approach seems reasonable.
Mutnodjmet on February 25, 2010 at 4:09 PM
The police.
Seriously, we could dramatically downsize it at least. Along with a host of other ABC.gov’s
Free Constitution on February 25, 2010 at 4:11 PM
Where do you see that in the Constitution, again?
Vashta.Nerada on February 25, 2010 at 4:11 PM
This is good stuff. A lot of you guys are free market, until you’re not.
Free Constitution on February 25, 2010 at 4:12 PM
I’m not quite sure I agree with Ed’s position, but it’s at least worth considering. Stossel’s idea seems be the better one, IMHO.
And I really must get to threads earlier before people like Chudi say what I was going to!
Dark-Star on February 25, 2010 at 4:12 PM
Oh but it does, because this is the one area of interstate and international commerce where fraud, negligence and sabotage are CERTAIN to rise to the level of bodily harm.
So go to Russia. Ah, but not much innovation gets done medically in Russia, does it? That’s because, when it comes to healing millions of people for profit, they don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
Chris_Balsz on February 25, 2010 at 4:13 PM
You have to look at each individual addictive substance and see how they work on the brain and whether the potential for physical harm is worth the freedom to take those drugs without gov’t oversight. The first criteria is objective and the second subjective. I do think as a society it is proper that we decide how far freedom goes without disturbing order.
Bill C on February 25, 2010 at 4:13 PM
That’s because they have the sense to realize that “free market” is equally as not a cure-all as “more government”.
Dark-Star on February 25, 2010 at 4:14 PM
And John McCain’s Supplement Regulation Bill wants to extend FDA regulation to EVERYTHING, vitamins, herbs, teas, anything you can put in your body. Here’s hoping the bill gets defeated, but the scaremongers in the media and DC will “do it for the children!”
Leave me alone government.
brak on February 25, 2010 at 4:14 PM
Sounds like a topic for Gay Hot Air.
TheUnrepentantGeek on February 25, 2010 at 4:14 PM
The government contracts out its research to private testing facilities anyway, so what’s the point of the FDA?
spmat on February 25, 2010 at 4:17 PM
OK, to say that not much innovation gets done in Russia because of capitalism is quite amusing. The former Soviet Union couldn’t innovate a band aid.
mizflame98 on February 25, 2010 at 4:17 PM
BTW, they have socialized medicine in Russia.
mizflame98 on February 25, 2010 at 4:18 PM
Should deciding that be a function of the Federal Government?
Oldnuke on February 25, 2010 at 4:19 PM
There are several issues with gov’t regulation of drugs that Stossel covered but this is one of the most important. One advantage to delay is that if the EU approves a drug before we do then we get to see how that drug effects a large sample. We are free riders on the great European human medical experiment.
Bill C on February 25, 2010 at 4:20 PM
OK, but then you would need to train the police to essentially be environmental investigators on top of everything else.
That’d be splitting it at the state level but unlike other things that states would regulate what happens in one state environmentally can drastically affect another state (a company letting a lot of crap in the air, for example).
ckoeber on February 25, 2010 at 4:23 PM
I have to disagree with you there. I offer the T-34 and the AK-47 as proof that they could effectively produce innovative ideas, techniques and production methods. Granted this only occurred when some innovative individuals were given pretty much unrestricted power and resources to produce what the collective wanted but they could do it.
Oldnuke on February 25, 2010 at 4:23 PM
Better question: Is the FDA constitutional?
2Brave2Bscared on February 25, 2010 at 4:24 PM
I assume you’re comfortable drinking nonpasteurized milk from an unknown source, particularly from herds which haven’t undergone mandatory TB-Brucellosis testing and heifer vaccination? How about removing all restrictions on human consumption of meat from cattle with spongiform encephalitis? Pork Trichinosis? Poultry products from flocks with endemic Salmonellosis? How about Listeriosis or a nasty E.coli from your hamburger?
a capella on February 25, 2010 at 4:25 PM
Seems a like a fair trade, since we’re playing proxy policeman for most of the $#@! continent.
Dark-Star on February 25, 2010 at 4:27 PM
Just as long as we are allowed to elect those who oversee the FDA. All drivers are expected to obey the rules of the road even though some might find those rules onerous.
I think there is needs to be looser policies for drug approval and for pain relief and thanks to people like John Stossel we are getting there but it takes a long time with broad consensus before our gov’t acts.
Bill C on February 25, 2010 at 4:28 PM
What water can kill me! CO2 is a pollutant!
There may have been a need for food & drug police in the past.
Not so today.
With the internet, media (when they’re awake), watchdog groups, and ambulance chasers ready to toss another slab of meat through the grinder … who needs a bureaucratic layer of pork to go with it?
How many – “oops our bad, we need more regulation money and updates for our solitaire software” – news stories involving FDA approved drugs have there been? Wasn’t there a diet drug, a heart/blood pressure medication and a sleeping pill under fire?
Then there are all of those high standards set by the government that seems to outperform last years food contamination stories.
Let’s see … it was peanut butter last year, spinach the year before, meat before that … it’s gotta be fruits turn this year, or energy bars!
And yet our government makes a butt load of coin regulating and profiting off big evil FDA approved tobacco. Of course they’re in the clear ’cause they told you cigarettes could kill you. But, not before it was obvious … being they were aptly named “cancer sticks” by proletarians.
kregg on February 25, 2010 at 4:29 PM
There are plenty of less useful, more burdensome agenies that need removal from the government teat before the FDA is approached.
Oversight by a group less-likely to be bribed (by such sectors where billions are involved, daily) to make sure of basic rules being followed for safety, accuracy, purity, efficacy, etc., is vital, as the snake oil-tainted history of pharmaceuticals shows.
The Dept. of Education, et al, need scrubbing first.
No one would be at risk of dying from its absence if that agency disappeared tomorrow. (Except perhaps Nancy Pelosi, Barney Fwank or Harry Reid, ~of shock.)
The FDA should have private UL-like “competitors” to double-check their work, since relying on a single safety barrier with the potential dangers involved is naive.
Redundancy is essential for complex systems.
And, as the private versions prove their worth, then the FDA could be reduced.
profitsbeard on February 25, 2010 at 4:33 PM
I think the Federal Government has overstepped it’s bounds in so may areas and in such an intrusive fashion that we may never jerk it back under our control. Once you allow the government to ooze into anything you can never get it out again and it’s little empires just continue to grow. In my opinion most things are better left to state and local entities.
Oldnuke on February 25, 2010 at 4:34 PM
The FDA, like many other government agencies, may have initially served a good purpose (one which it may even still cover); however, it has grown far larger than it should.
There are people in the U.S. that are dying that are asking to use drugs that are IN USE in other countries but are not allowed in the U.S. because they have not been vetted by the FDA yet. I’m sure it’s not a horribly large amount of people, but, it is still happening.
What purpose does that serve? Why should a dying person not be allowed to try anything that might work? I’m sure they’d be willing to sign legal documents that say they won’t hold it against the FDA if the treatment doesn’t work or causes them to grow a second head? However, they aren’t give that choice.
JadeNYU on February 25, 2010 at 4:35 PM
The mention of the DEA let’s you know what this is really about.
How many businesses use UL because some regulator orders them to have a set level of insurance, and they can’t get it unless they use equipment passed by UL?
Why not talk about the USDA? That’s a pretty tolerant regulator–and people die as a result. But hey, nobody made them eat beef. Of course, I can see how it’s hard to be a smart consumer of beef; usually you have some processed strips that could have come from anywhere. But that’s the hard choices liberty imposes on us. Have a fatty and forget it.
Chris_Balsz on February 25, 2010 at 4:37 PM
You’re delusional.
single stack on February 25, 2010 at 4:39 PM
the T-34 and the AK-47 aren’t medications. And for the record, I prefer the M-16A2.
mizflame98 on February 25, 2010 at 4:40 PM
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