Toyota vs. Government Motors
posted at 10:07 am on February 24, 2010 by Danny Glover
The bureaucrats and politicians in Washington are out to get Toyota because of ongoing recalls of the Japanese automaker’s popular vehicles. The House held one hearing yesterday, and another is scheduled for today. Toyota also is target of a U.S. criminal probe and a Securities and Exchange Commission investigation.
The intense, critical focus on the company has shaken the faith of this Toyota fan a bit. But in the back of my mind, I keep remembering extenuating circumstances like this:
Toyota’s U.S. operations are extremely successful, not saturated by inefficient union monopolies, and are in direct competition with the now government-owned General Motors.
From their first U.S. factory in 1988, the Japanese company’s success in the U.S. is extraordinary. In 2003, the Camry became the best-selling car in the U.S. and still is. In 2005, Fortune magazine stated: “By nearly every measure, Toyota is the world’s best auto manufacturer. It may be the world’s best manufacturer, period.” In 2006, Toyota became the third-biggest seller of cars and trucks in the U.S. In 2007, Toyota captured second place in the U.S. market, replacing Ford, which had held the No. 2 position since 1931. In 2008, as GM declined and temporarily avoided bankruptcy, Toyota surpassed their unionized competitor becoming the largest automaker in the world.
Toyota’s handling of the recall has been miserable. Weeks after I first learned that my car is subject to one of the recalls, I still haven’t been notified directly by the company, and so far as I know, there is no fix yet for the potentially faulty gas pedal in my 2009 Corolla. I’m not happy about that.
But the evidence that the federal government’s recent entrance into the car business has influenced its antagonizing approach to the Toyota recall is quite convincing:
There’s no question that in the first, heady days of recall, at least some in the Obama administration and Congress saw advantage in undermining Toyota. The majority owner of Government Motors felt it couldn’t hurt to fan the image of a “foreign” auto maker disregarding the safety of American drivers. Shoppers might just buy a Chevy instead, propping up government investment and bolstering United Auto Worker union jobs. And of course the trial bar would be thrilled by a fat new class-action target.
Vehicle recalls (there were 16.9 million in 2009 alone) are usually handled by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration—but the Toyota case was commandeered by Obama Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood. He skewered the firm for being “a little safety deaf,” complained it hadn’t been responsive, and bragged it was the government that forced a recall. …
Over in Congress, a geographically notable contingent of representatives piled on. Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., announced an investigation into “dangerous” malfunctions. Toyota was ordered to report to his Oversight subcommittee hearing next week. Rep. John Dingell, D-Mich., berated the company for taking “two years” to step up and ripped them for not recalling more models.
UAW lobbyist Alan Reuther demanded Toyota make amends by keeping open a unionized factory in California, currently scheduled for closure. Chrysler, GM and Ford started offering cash incentives for car buyers to trade in recalled Toyotas for domestic wares.
That leaves Toyota owners like me in the predicament of choosing the bad guy in this scenario. Toyota may not be the good guy, but given the choice between incompetent government and a private company with a solid track record, I pick the government as the one to wear the black hat.
[Cross-posted at The Enlightened Redneck]
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Fox is reporting home sales “drop unexpectedly.”
carry on.
blatantblue on February 24, 2010 at 10:08 AM
I’m still driving my Camry. Just trunk the floormats like I have been doing since 1987. I love my Toyota.
OmahaConservative on February 24, 2010 at 10:09 AM
I’ll buy a Toyota a helluva lot sooner than I will buy a GM/Chrysler Product again. ES&D Government Motors!
PappaMac on February 24, 2010 at 10:10 AM
I read part of the account of how Toyota handled the questions, and I felt much better after listening. There was a great deal of straight talk and accountability taken. And I, too, have loved my Toyotas. I drive one now.
I am glad it’s not one that has a problem with this. Terrible mess.
AnninCA on February 24, 2010 at 10:12 AM
2009 – Toyota overtakes GM in market share
2009 – US government essentially taking over marketing for the Peoples Car (Chevy Volt)
2010 – All of a sudden, Toyota’s remarkable quality & safety streak crashes to a stop.
You have all you need to know.
vinman on February 24, 2010 at 10:13 AM
I used to work in the automotive industry and I’m telling you right now, the Toyota recalls have been overblown in the media. I’m not saying there aren’t serious issues with the recall items, but Toyota is hardly the first auto company to have recalls. I believe this has been overblown in order to discredit Toyota (the #1 automaker) so that customers would shy away from Toyota.
I believe that as sure as I’m sitting here.
Oink on February 24, 2010 at 10:14 AM
My 2002 Ford Ranger has had the gas pedal get stuck twice. Yet no stories on this.
Yet another data point showing that the MSM is in bed with Dear Liar’s administration.
rbj on February 24, 2010 at 10:14 AM
I just rebuilt the head on my 82 Toyota PU. 22r motor with over 500k miles on it. compression is back up to over 185 lbs in all four cylinders and it gets over 30 mpg. Haven’t had an auto payment in over twenty years.
Stick that in your tail-pipe Government Motors!
Rovin on February 24, 2010 at 10:16 AM
The Obama administration will exaggerate and denigrate Toyota’s difficulties. Gotta prop up those 50 dollar an hour government motors union jobs.
Toyota makes great cars. So does Honda. You couldn’t give me a GM car right now. Well actually you could but I would sell it and buy a Toyota.
Guardian on February 24, 2010 at 10:16 AM
I bet Nissan is happy right now.
AnninCA on February 24, 2010 at 10:19 AM
My last GM car had a defective fuel gauge and ran out of gas 8 times in 3 years. Once I had to stop in the middle of a busy road in a rainstorm because it unexpectedly ran out of gas. I took it to the dealer 3 times and they insisted nothing was wrong with it. Luckily, I had a lease and just turned it in. And even then, GMAC tried to rip me off to pay almost $1000 in “damages” at the end of the lease.
If the government thinks it can kill Toyota, fine. But don’t think for a minute this will produce more sales for GM. My next car will probably be a Subaru or Honda.
rockmom on February 24, 2010 at 10:20 AM
I believe that as sure as I’m sitting here.
Oink on February 24, 2010 at 10:14 AM
I drove a Toyota for 4 years, put 100,000 miles on it and did nothing but buy tires once and the regular oil change. That was it. I would buy another one in a heartbeat if I got a good deal.
NJ Red on February 24, 2010 at 10:20 AM
Can it be any more obvious what is going on here? Next thing you know NBC will be rigging up Ford trucks to explode so that the government can get on them, too. Oh, wait!
SouthernGent on February 24, 2010 at 10:22 AM
Oh, and my gas pedal sticks every time I see a liberal in the roadway…….. (kidding)
Rovin on February 24, 2010 at 10:22 AM
Sounds like Barry’s team is having second thoughts.
Vashta.Nerada on February 24, 2010 at 10:22 AM
And I’m sure that Harry Reid is well aware that Toyota’s biggest U.S. factory is in Mitch McConnell’s home state. It’s been idled during this recall and hundreds are out of work. That factory is one of the best things that ever happened to central Kentucky. The only car GM makes in Kentucky is the Corvette.
rockmom on February 24, 2010 at 10:22 AM
I bet Nissan is happy right now.
AnninCA on February 24, 2010 at 10:19 AM
I own a Sentra right now and it is one of the best cars (along with a Toyota) that I have ever owned. Mustang, not so much.
NJ Red on February 24, 2010 at 10:23 AM
Remember the list of car models which sold during Cash for Clunkers? 4 of the top 5 were Toyota vehicles with the Ford Focus being the only domestic model on the list, and Ford did not take the bailout money.
I think the Government definitely has a vendetta against Toyota, but Toyota left themselves open for this. They admitted they lost sight of their customers and now the government is going exploit this as much as they can hoping it will benefit their new pet, GM.
Daemonocracy on February 24, 2010 at 10:23 AM
My Toyota representative’s speech to the Democrat congress investigating Toyota.
Since you are the United states and now through congfiscation have become the markertplace owner of our competition, you sir(s) are in a conflict of interest by intimidating you most serious comptetitor into submission.
We will not go lightly into the night. We reject the very idea that you can be fair, as we have never seen such in all our years watching you in congress.
As one of the larger employers of free American workers who do not work for government supported unions, we demand that you make your criminal charges and we will deal with you -the competition – the the open court system where justice will prevail.
Don L on February 24, 2010 at 10:24 AM
And I am going to keep asking this on every thread about cars:
Why do General Motors and GMAC still have lobbyists? Are they now lobbying Congress and the White House to pile on Toyota?
rockmom on February 24, 2010 at 10:24 AM
I had 2 Mazdas. Loved my Miata.
AnninCA on February 24, 2010 at 10:24 AM
As long as GM is owned by the government and the unions, I will never buy another vehicle from them. I wish the feds would keep their hands off the private sector.
tommer74 on February 24, 2010 at 10:24 AM
Oh and I own Subaru, my whole family has followed my lead and picked up their own Subarus. The best AWD system on the market and a reliable brand as well.
Daemonocracy on February 24, 2010 at 10:24 AM
It’s worse. The UAW is demanding, in order that Toyota be let off the hook, that the GM/Toyota joint venture plant in Fremont, CA be kept open — in spite of the fact that GM is walking away from its half of the joint venture.. Its closure is one of the fallout effects of the GM bankruptcy. Of course, Toyota has other reasons related to the UAW to consider closing the plant.
unclesmrgol on February 24, 2010 at 10:24 AM
Agreed. Toyota didnt suddenly get wonky, or at least no more so than any large automaker.
This has a bad smell to it.
JusDreamin on February 24, 2010 at 10:26 AM
Hitler didn’t like it when Peugeot tried to mussel in on Volkswagen’s market either…
tommylotto on February 24, 2010 at 10:26 AM
Toyota pickup 4×4 bought in 1985 has 303,205 miles on it. Runs great no problems.
I can’t say that about ANY American vehicle I have ever owned. Screw GM – (gubment motors).
Kuffar on February 24, 2010 at 10:26 AM
Hmm.
There ya go; problem solved.
Doorgunner on February 24, 2010 at 10:29 AM
Well, anyway, the statements by the Toyota president were heartfelt and really credible to me. He didn’t try to pretend that they have even figured out the entire problem. I like that kind of honesty. He also suggested that part of the problem was that they expanded too fast.
Had the Banks really dealt with their “Day in front of mad Congress” in the same way, they’d have a much better reputation with people right now.
I think Toyota will overcome this.
AnninCA on February 24, 2010 at 10:29 AM
That’s an easy call, Dan. (Easier for me, I suppose, since I don’t own a car at all)
With over 2,000,000 cars sold in the United States, Toyota has documented 34 deaths due to problems with acceleration. That number alone borders on statistically insignificant. On the other hand, “problems with acceleration” only mean that the car accelerated when the driver did not want it to.
Ever heard of little old ladies or inexperienced teen drivers insisting that they slammed on the brakes, only to find out later that they slammed on the gas pedal without even realizing it? Hey man, it happens.
gryphon202 on February 24, 2010 at 10:30 AM
Mike Gallagher shared a clip from a woman at the hearing yesterday. She was weeping one minute and the next minute she was lecturing Toyota for their greed. I smell a rat. Also the vehicle was apparently careening at 100mph no matter what gear she put it in, but somehow she had the calmness to call her husband to hear his voice one last time. That story just does not make sense.
I own a Toyota and would buy another in a heartbeat.
P.S. Does anyone remember this happening to Audi in the 80′s or 90′s?
PrincipledPilgrim on February 24, 2010 at 10:30 AM
Government Motors won’t be able to turn loyal owners against Toyota. GM builds junk because their labor costs are much higher than Japanese competition. Ford is the only U.S. owned auto maker that builds a quality product. The bureaucrats can hold all the hearings that they want, but it won’t help GM sales or quality. I’d be happy to buy American if they would produce a quality product.
orlandocajun on February 24, 2010 at 10:30 AM
I’m no expert but it seems to me that these recalls have been oversold. Almost everytime I take my Ford in for servicing there seems to be something that gets fixed as part of a recall. Of course, I also know that Ford didn’t need to replace my two-month old tires back in 2000 but had to because of the hype over Firestone.
If Congressional hearings are a must (and that is a giant if) then it would seem to me that what yesterday’s hearings were off the mark. I’m sorry that some lady’s Lexus was screaming down the road at 106 mph but how does that testimony do anything to resolve the issues facing Toyota? How does the Japanese head of Toyota showing up today help fix the cars under recall? At this point Congress and the administration needs to determine one thing- how big a threat is driving one of these recalled cars. If it is a public threat should the government ban all Toyotas from the road until further notice? If not, why not?
highhopes on February 24, 2010 at 10:31 AM
I bought a Toyota Highlander this weekend. It hasn’t killed me yet.
I’ll let you know if the situation changes.
Mike Honcho on February 24, 2010 at 10:31 AM
FIFY Ann.
gryphon202 on February 24, 2010 at 10:31 AM
As someone who’s been living in Japan for several years, I’ve been talking to many Japanese about this situation. It hasn’t occurred to many about the conflict of interest with the US gov and GM. I say yeah, Toyota handled this very poorly. They waited too long to report problems to the Japanese gov but the Dems are gonna pile on hard with ulterior motives.
One friend thought the Democrats were using this as leverage for keeping the base in Okinawa open. I had to explain to him that Democrats were not well known for going out of their way to keep bases open. Ha.
Dongemaharu on February 24, 2010 at 10:32 AM
My dad has always said “Ford or Foreign” – so we have a Toyota Highlander we love and a Nissan Titan. My next car might be a Ford because they are coming out with some neat features. But, we will always have a Toyota. We will not go back to Nissan because the local dealer is a rip on repairs and mtn. My Toyota dealer is always fair and reasonable with costs to maintain. Plus, they take care of my husband’s Nissan for less than half the Nissan dealer’s prices.
Buelldawg on February 24, 2010 at 10:33 AM
If you’re going to try to “mussel” in on rival territory, I suggest greasing your entry with a little marinara.
Mmm, marinara; the memories of Mom’s just warms the cockles of my heart.
Maybe some ‘scalloped’ potatoes on the side.
But, maybe, I should just clam up.
Doorgunner on February 24, 2010 at 10:33 AM
We the people are calling for the biggest recall ever…. The Obama Administration needs to be recalled – they are dangerous and their healthcare plan will kill people.
suzyk on February 24, 2010 at 10:34 AM
OK, comparing vehicles…I have never owned a Toyota. In recent years I have owned a ’98 Honda Accord (bought used with 55,000 miles, traded at 105,000) and now have an ’05 Odyssey (purchased new). Both of these vehicles, outside of regular maintenance, were and are dependable, efficient, and have never broken down.
My wife drives the Odyssey. I drive an ’02 Chevy Impala. It has the infamous 3.4L intake manifold leak (oil and water). Various little mechanical issues here and there. The engine does not develop nearly the power of the almost identical sized one in the Odyssey. It will beat out the van for mpg (31 vs 27), but the van is a considerably taller vehicle.
There is no reason an 8 year old car that has been properly maintained should have problems with leaks, rattles, misfires, and a variety of other mechanical and electrical problems. My ’93 Chevy truck is 9 years older and has far fewer issues than the ’02. Go figure.
Whenever the car gets replaced, it will not be another GM product.
(As a side note…I had to take the ’02 in to get a dent removed. I rented an ’09 Impala and drove it for several days. Very unimpressed and disappointed in it. I was happy to get mine back in spite of it’s problems.)
JohnTheBuilder on February 24, 2010 at 10:34 AM
When the federal government is both the referee and a player on the field.. who in his right mind would trust it?
That’s WHY we’re not supposed to be adopting fascist policies.
It wouldn’t matter if Congress’ motives were pure as the driven snow. The credibility is gone. Obama and his Democrats have their political fortunes intertwined with GM and Chrysler.
Oh… and it amuses me that GM is complaining about the California closure. Um… GM…. you’re the one who went bankrupt because of your crappy product and crappy business practices. Toyota didn’t make you suck.
Murf76 on February 24, 2010 at 10:34 AM
*groan*
misterpeasea on February 24, 2010 at 10:35 AM
I heard that the floor mats might be causing problems with acceleration. Isn’t this a problem with all vehicles? Sorry to be so ignorant but I don’t get it.
Here’s a tip: if your car accelerates beyond your control and brakes dont help, put the car in neutral and/or shut the engine OFF.
shick on February 24, 2010 at 10:36 AM
I had a chevy citation back in the early 80′s where the gas peddle stuck all the time. i had to junk the car with 40,000 miles.
I had a ford escort back in the mid 80′s that blew up on me with just 50,000 miles….timing belt broke
I had a dodge aries back in the late 80′s where the parking brake cable’s plastic latch would crack causing the brake to stick. This happened several times where i would have to crawl under the car and pound on the brake. I had to junk that car with just 65,000 miles.
I have a 2003 camry. just change oil every 5000 miles. no problems. still runs like i just pulled it off the sales lot.
I have a 1998 honda crv. 165,000 miles. just change oil every 5000 miles. still runs like i just pulled it off the sales lot.
Uh, no not buying a GM or a Chrysler. And, i am not buying this faux governement alarm over floormats.
jbh45 on February 24, 2010 at 10:36 AM
There’s no possible way I’ll buy any car that funnels money to the UAW and hence, to the Democrat Party.
And that’s beside the fact that union “work” is almost universally shoddy and overpriced.
NoDonkey on February 24, 2010 at 10:37 AM
What will people do?
I think that the Prius comes standard with anti-Bush, pro-green, Obama and/or Kerry bumper stickers here in MA (usually about 6-10 per car)
Prius owners must be conflicted.
reaganaut on February 24, 2010 at 10:39 AM
Wow. They’ve sure got a long way to go to catch up with President Obama’s airstrikes.
Anyone know if the acceleration problems had anything to do with a previous government mandate? I know drive-by-wire is gaining popularity, and it would be interesting if something like that was used as a solution to help meet CAFE standards and ended up failing…
rogerb on February 24, 2010 at 10:39 AM
Consider a Mazda. I now own two Mazda 3′s (a 2004 and a 2005) — it’s the best car I’ve ever driven in the under $20K range.
Not all Mazda’s are quality, as my dealer told me. Mazda makes vehicles in two locations — Hiroshima and Flat Rock, MI. You can guess where the shoddy vehicles come from, and you can guess why. The Mazda 6 is made in Flat Rock by brawny UAW workers — avoid if possible.
The Mazda 3 is made in Hiroshima, and it’s got a common engine, trannie, and frame with the Ford Focus — as Mazda and Ford have a technology sharing agreement motivated by Ford’s 34% (now down to 14%) ownership of Mazda.
unclesmrgol on February 24, 2010 at 10:40 AM
I’m not the only one skeptical?
shick on February 24, 2010 at 10:40 AM
Haven’t you all seen all the Toyotas in the ditch as you drive about town? It’s really quite frightful. /s
PrincipledPilgrim on February 24, 2010 at 10:41 AM
Daniel,
I suggest calling your dealership and see if you can get an appointment anyway. I was able to get an appointment about three weeks ago for my Corolla and I never received a recall letter. They had the parts and were making the repairs weeks ago.
My car didn’t qualify for the fix because it was manufactured in Japan. Unfortunately, I’ll have to take it back for another recall on a part on the water pump, but they told me the car was safe to drive.
Vera71 on February 24, 2010 at 10:42 AM
I think I’ll go buy another Toyota before the month is out. I have driven Toyota exclusively since 1986, and have been 100% satisfied.
OmahaConservative on February 24, 2010 at 10:44 AM
I dig what you’re saying, but I think you need to shell out for submitting us to this half-baked stew!
Don L on February 24, 2010 at 10:44 AM
Bonus: The only car that glows in the dark.
Bishop on February 24, 2010 at 10:45 AM
On the assumption that the Obamabots in the WH and elsewhere read the HA blogs and comments, let me say that I will never, ever buy another GM or Chrysler product. Ever. I’ll buy a Yugo before I buy a government motors car. Maybe if I live to be 125 and GM and Chrysler have paid ALL the money back with interest, and they pay the bond holders what they deserve, and they are making decent cars, I will recant and buy one. But I doubt it.
Say! Have the 2010 Fiats arrived yet? Can’t wait to cruise on down to the dealer to check those babies out.
JimP on February 24, 2010 at 10:45 AM
I’ve always been a Honda/Mazda car owner. This was reinforced by a terrible Chevy Celebrity I had and interning at a Chevy plant. What a terrible experience.
I was thinking of buying a Ford next. It was unlikely I’d buy a GM vehicle, but since the G now stands for Government, I will never buy one.
For what it is worth, I never had any problems with my Honda or Mazda. Is Ford starting to get to the same kind of quality?
ConDem on February 24, 2010 at 10:47 AM
I don’t no why but what you just posted really steams me, so quit frittering around.
bloggless on February 24, 2010 at 10:48 AM
The posts above read like smoker comments in the 1950′s and 1960s. My uncle smoked for 35 years before a bus killed him…
If The One was smart enough to create this mess for Toyota, He may pull us out of the economic mess yet.
Asian firms have a lousy track record on the respect for human life. See Firestone and the many satisfied customers who died after the firm knew of the defect in a rubber comopound.
Toyota has a history, too:
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2009/09/68498180/1
The unions and trial lawyers are greedy. If the allegations I read about Toyotas are true, they are much worse.
“Patriotic” Americans who buy these tawdry imports are knocking US workers out of jobs and helping a great deal with our trade deficit and other financial problems. Didn’t you see hannity last night? And don’t tell me about the assembly plants here.
On the quality issue, check J D Powers. US cars are fine and somewhat safer even without these problems.
Wait about a week, Toyota may have a real problem coming when a former lawyer releases memos about the cold way safety issues were handled.
And on trial laywers, you wouldn’t be safe eating a hot dog without them. Who would protect you? The Government? Ha.
Asian cars are crap.
IlikedAUH2O on February 24, 2010 at 10:49 AM
This whole Toyota thing is weird. I listened to someone testifying and I kept thinking, this is BS. It is really strange.
bloggless on February 24, 2010 at 10:49 AM
So when Congress investigated Ford for the Explorer problem with Firestone it was because they owned GM? Oh wait…
This narrative shows how far Conservatives have sunk in intelligence.
Decider on February 24, 2010 at 10:51 AM
I would, but right now I have to go get the bivalves replaced in my Pontiac Starfish. And I’m late ‘cuz the Rolex Perpetual Oyster is perpetually in for repairs.
Doorgunner on February 24, 2010 at 10:52 AM
Liberals love imports about 25 to 1 over domestic brands. I used to wonder if Honda Civics had Obama stickers put on at the factory.
Like the comfort of having a “L” on your forehead.
IlikedAUH2O on February 24, 2010 at 10:53 AM
I’ll take Toyota any day of the year . . . the Japanese still posses a great sense of honor and they will do the right thing. As for General (Government) Motors, I wouldn’t trust them any farther than I could throw them.
rplat on February 24, 2010 at 10:54 AM
Far be it for me to baby you, but my darling, my 2009 Camry has had BOTH recalls done on it. And I’ve never received notification from Toyota to have either done.
there’s this thing called, CALLING the dealership and asking for an appointment to have the recalls done. That’s what I did.
I’d highly suggest you put on your big boy pants and do that.
mjk on February 24, 2010 at 10:54 AM
“Patriotic” Americans who buy these tawdry imports are knocking US workers out of jobs”
I sure hope the Honda and the VW parked in my driveway has at least one UAW member standing in an unemployment line, that would brighten the hell out of my day.
NoDonkey on February 24, 2010 at 10:55 AM
My car was built in Memphis, buttercup. And it’s a Toyota.
the UAW can kiss my A**.
mjk on February 24, 2010 at 10:55 AM
Gubment going after toyota is like NBC and CBS having the power to prosecute ABC.
kurtzz3 on February 24, 2010 at 10:57 AM
Pffft. Buy a Chevy Cobalt over a Honda Civic? Chevy Aveo over a Honda Fit? Chevy Impala over Honda Accord?
Take it from a guy who wrenches for a living, there is no comparison.
Bishop on February 24, 2010 at 10:57 AM
Holy s–t…
You were the last person on the planet I would have ever thought I’d hear accusing the Democrats of pure motives…
gryphon202 on February 24, 2010 at 10:57 AM
I’ll give you 50 clams to clam up.
misterpeasea on February 24, 2010 at 10:57 AM
We see again that Republicans fall on the side of the anti-American crowd. They want our American President to fail and want our American car industry to fail.
Whose side are you on? How is the current Republican Party any different than Al Qaeda? Because your “team” is not in power you want the other “team” to lose by any means.
It is discussing what talk radio and Fox News has done to political discussion in this country. It will ultimately be the downfall of the country. Divided we fall.
Decider on February 24, 2010 at 10:58 AM
Bishop on February 24, 2010 at 10:57 AM
Maybe he likes taking the shoe leather express to work, or perhaps a bicycle.
I had a Ford that broke down at least annually. Bought a VW that hasn’t had a single problem in 10 years.
NoDonkey on February 24, 2010 at 10:59 AM
You should take the clams, because if you keep this up, I’m gonna conch you on the head.
misterpeasea on February 24, 2010 at 11:01 AM
I want our president to fail in implementing his policy so that American culture and prosperity does not get flushed down the crapper.
I want the powerbrokers of American industry to wake up and realize that other countries are taking their places cause we ceded them. In a free market, sometimes that takes failure. We will never be a dominant force as long as businesses are insulated from the consequences of their failure. They’ll keep right on failing cause they have no reason not to!
gryphon202 on February 24, 2010 at 11:01 AM
A VW with no problems? I find that very hard to believe. How about those oil leak and electrical problems? Forget about those?
Decider on February 24, 2010 at 11:01 AM
I would still by a Toyota before GM.
deidre on February 24, 2010 at 11:02 AM
If you have ever seen the mussels on the rocks of Laguna Beach jockeying with each other for the best spot on the rock next to the sexy sea urchin you would realize that is where that expression came from.
Come on, tow the line, would you.
tommylotto on February 24, 2010 at 11:02 AM
+++1
+++1
I still have a 1987 Toyota Camry with almost 300,000 miles on it. AC doesn’t work so I use it in the colder months only.
OmahaConservative on February 24, 2010 at 11:03 AM
I have never liked the idea of drive by wire. I never could understand why they did it in the first place. Accelerator cables are far more reliable and easy and cheap to fix when worn. Drive by wire components are very expensive and are prone to electrical interference induced feedback. A new cable assembly costs about 30 bucks and takes 15 minutes to change. Drive by wire components can run in the thousands.
Guardian on February 24, 2010 at 11:03 AM
The President of Toyota can not speak English, Sport. They are a Japanese company not an American one.
Decider on February 24, 2010 at 11:04 AM
I had a Fiat that I sold for 10 times what I had in it. Swear to goodness. What I had in it. Not paid for it as I bought a battery and etc.
Of course, I got a Dodge from the same seller later and he got even. And Italian cars since then have been..expensive.
They still make a nice scooter.
IlikedAUH2O on February 24, 2010 at 11:05 AM
You’re a clown. We want his policies to fail. We would love to see him succeed at defending our nation, especially at the southern border. We would love to see him succeed at fostering a national environment in which domestic industry could thrive. We would love to see him succeed at exemplifying American pride, especially when he’s overseas representing us, all Americans.
And I would love to see you, in uniform beside me.
Doorgunner on February 24, 2010 at 11:05 AM
NoDonkey on February 24, 2010 at 11:05 AM
…and they employe almost as many Americans in America as they do Japanese in Japan. How is that “costing us America jobs?”
gryphon202 on February 24, 2010 at 11:05 AM
This is bringing to light something: Toyota’s success in the US is attributed to a great product, but they r SO much cheaper bc their overhead is SO much cheaper (no unions taking a cut…). Well here’s their chance. ..
I’d hire the same team that put Tylenol back on track…and FAST
ocbrat on February 24, 2010 at 11:05 AM
I love your posts. Conservatives have sunk far in intelligence. The Republicans are anti-American. The current Republican Party is no different than Al Qaeda. But hey, let’s unite! Because divided we fall!
chris999 on February 24, 2010 at 11:05 AM
Imagine the outcry if Toyota had the following incident happen to just one driver…a friend was driving his top of the line ’90 Vette down the freeway, when his seat suddenly self-adjusted him forward so far, he was barely able to apply the brakes…twice in one year. Needless to say, the “HAL” seat is now disconnected from power. Dealership is baffled.
trl on February 24, 2010 at 11:06 AM
Decider, which GM or Chrysler plant do you work at?
chris999 on February 24, 2010 at 11:06 AM
I had VW 412. Frankenstein monster — in the words of a German mechanic at the time. Ferrari 412 was much better but I couldn’t swing one.
IlikedAUH2O on February 24, 2010 at 11:07 AM
Decider on February 24, 2010 at 11:01 AM
Routine maintenance only. I had a fuse go out in 2005 and the VW dealer replaced it for free.
I knew I shouldn’t have bought that 10 year, 100,000 mile warranty on it. Didn’t get a thing out of it.
NoDonkey on February 24, 2010 at 11:08 AM
Like a GM promise, or “Congressional oversight”, this smells fishy to me.
NaCly dog on February 24, 2010 at 11:08 AM
I speak French and Hebrew, SPORT. Am I not a real person either?
mjk on February 24, 2010 at 11:08 AM
I guess you didn’t notice the Democrat Party rooting for us to lose a war? And affirmatively working to bring about a loss? And now Plugs is trying to take credit for it?
You people have no shame.
You suddenly remind me of my favorite part of Platoon. “How can you shoot the women and children?” “Easy, you don’t lead ‘em as much.” I loved that movie, and I laughed when I found out, much later in life, that it was supposed to be anti-war.
Thanks for your service, BTW.
misterpeasea on February 24, 2010 at 11:10 AM
ok oberslime, whatever you say….but maybe get an original thought to share and perhaps someone will give a flying piece of crap.
jbh45 on February 24, 2010 at 11:10 AM
I trust Toyota. They have every incentive to fix the problems. The government has every incentive to not.
wildcat84 on February 24, 2010 at 11:11 AM
Are you serious?
Decider on February 24, 2010 at 11:13 AM
That was Full Metal Jacket, chowderhead.
And you’re more than welcome.
Doorgunner on February 24, 2010 at 11:14 AM
It’s a global world, pal, you can also invest on the Nikkei. Yes, seriously.
Doorgunner on February 24, 2010 at 11:16 AM
Add me to the list of folks who will NEVER purchase a GM or Chrysler product again and whose ass the UAW may kiss.
I’ll run what I have to the ground, (which shouldn’t take long since I’m driving a Chrysler POS)… then I’ll buy foreign, hopefully from a right-to-work state. But if not… hey, I’m a free-marketer. I’ll get the best I can for my money outside the looter companies I’m boycotting.
Murf76 on February 24, 2010 at 11:18 AM
I am not a Democrat but I am not someone who blindly votes for the person with the (R) either. Yes, what the Republicans are doing now is exactly the equivalent of what the Democrats did in regards to Iraq. Republicans are doing exactly what Harry Reid did when he said “The war is lost.” They are hoping the country fails in the same way.
Decider on February 24, 2010 at 11:19 AM
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