The point of being annoyed with Glenn Beck

posted at 3:43 pm on February 24, 2010 by CK MacLeod

In a post at the Optimistic Conservative, also featured on the HotAir main page, our friend and colleague J.E. Dyer asks, “What’s the point of being annoyed with Glenn Beck?” Obviously, J.E. is asking the question rhetorically, in order to respond to conservative criticisms of Beck that have been launched since his CPAC keynote speech: Her post actually tells us why we should be pleased with Beck, and I agree with most of what she says in it.

But I think her question deserves an answer.

It was, of course, William Bennett, writing over the weekend at NRO, who first spoke up loudly and incisively in reaction to Beck’s performance at CPAC. He focused on one of Beck’s customary themes:

To say the GOP and the Democrats are no different, to say the GOP needs to hit a recovery-program-type bottom and hang its head in remorse, is to delay our own country’s recovery from the problems the Democratic left is inflicting. The stakes are too important to go through that kind of exercise, which will ultimately go nowhere anyway…

Jonah Goldberg replied at NRO along somewhat the same lines as J.E., stressing that, if Beck may have overdone things, it was to motivate the troops and scare the wayward straight. Soon, however, Peter Wehner was joining his colleague Jennifer Rubin to second Bennett, and in addition was raising the ante: “If Glenn Beck were the future of conservatism,” he wrote, “it would become a discredited movement.”

Wehner went on to disclaim much concern about either part of that proposition, but, by the beginning of the week, both Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin were each worried enough to devote significant attention both on- and off-air to Beck and his arguments. Levin’s Facebook entry was particularly cutting, concluding with this stark assessment of Beck’s “third way” politics: “These are perilous times and this kind of approach will keep the statists in power for decades.” Some have suggested that Levin’s dislike for Beck is personal, or based on professional jealousy, and similar attacks have been made on his other critics, but these are serious and substantive arguments, and they go well beyond mere annoyance.

So the answer to the amplified question might be this: The point of expressing dismay with Glenn Beck is to get him to re-think his approach, or, failing that, to separate conservatism, at a crucial political moment, from his excesses.

You can be a fan of Glenn Beck’s – you might even be Glenn Beck himself – and acknowledge that his rhetoric is sometimes irresponsible. You can be thankful to Glenn Beck for his contributions to American conservatism – for helping to keep the political flame alive, even build it, during a bleakly dark time – and yet still wonder whether, going forward, his pet themes, favorite arguments, and customary stances aren’t counterproductive and divisive, where not embarrassing. In short, you can agree with everything J.E. wrote, yet still be concerned about the way that Glenn Beck habitually brings vindictive hatred and a self-destructive and dangerous extremism into conservative discourse.

As someone who at least halfway listens to Beck’s TV show almost every weekday, I well recognize that he and his fans are more used to getting this kind of thing from the likes of Arianna Huffington or Media Matters robots than from conservative bloggers. But please check the transcript of his CPAC speech (or cue the video to 5:20): Nearly the first words out of his mouth were “I have to tell you, I hate Woodrow Wilson with everything in me…” (emphasis added). Defenders of Beck’s will be quick to point out that the words were obviously offered in self-consciously exaggerated good humor, as you will see if you view the video, and note the smile on Beck’s face. Furthermore, he was jokingly responding to a specific statement from David Keene’s introduction, in which, while congratulating Beck for conduction a national political seminar, Keene referred to having written an article in college naming Wilson, along with Hitler and Lenin, as one of “the three most dangerous people of the 20th Century.”

Now, jesting about one’s hatred for a relatively remote historical figure, even a duly elected president, wouldn’t amount to much on its own – who cares how anyone feels about Millard Fillmore? – but any Beck viewer or listener knows that, hard as it may be for the uninitiated to believe, Beck is joking on the square here. Indeed, he has seemed obsessed with exposing a purported clear and very present danger of progressivism, which he identifies both with historical figures like Wilson, Theodore Roosevelt, and Margaret Sanger, and with modern day progressives like the Republican 2008 presidential candidate or our current Secretary of State. (If you happened to watch Beck’s hour-long New York harborscape interview with Sarah Palin, then you might recall her reluctance to respond to his anti-progressive spiel, especially when applied to her former running mate. Beck later described her demeanor as remarkably “guarded” – as against criticism from her legion of detractors. My personal opinion is that, though she likes Beck and wishes to appeal to his fans, her political antennae, and perhaps her common sense and personal decency, were functioning efficiently.)

When Beck inveighs hatefully against Woodrow Wilson, he’s also inveighing against John McCain, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and many millions of other people, in both parties, and I would question the honesty of any regular Beck viewer who denied the evident fierceness of Beck’s feelings on this subject. If you think I’m exaggerating, then how do you explain away statements like the following, also from the CPAC keynote?

Progressivism is the cancer in America and it is eating our Constitution. And it was designed to eat the Constitution. To progress past the Constitution.

…and, again on cancer, while reacting to a statement of Theodore Roosevelt’s on income inequality:

[T]his is not our founders’ idea of America. And this is the cancer that’s eating at America.

(applause)

It is big government – it’s a socialist utopia. And we need to address it as if it is a cancer. It must be cut out of the system because they cannot co-exist. And you don’t cure cancer by – well, I’m just going to give you a little bit of cancer. You must eradicate it. It cannot co-exist. And we need big thinkers, and brave people with spines who can make the case – that can actually say to Americans: look it’s going to be hard – it’s going to be hard but it’s going to be okay. We’re going to make it.

This kind of language is not just exaggerated (and cliché): It’s pure demagogy, and it’s dehumanizing. Beck’s delivery and self-deprecation take the edge off… and I’ll now refrain from making the kind of historical reference that I tend to doubt Beck himself, in my place, would resist – much. I’ll just ask you to imagine the above with a few exclamation points, hand gestures, and a throbbing throng of the newly educated – live and in person, not across a warm TV screen.

Even before we look at progressivism and decide which features we can and should do without, and which not, at least anytime soon, short of Apocalypse or Harmonic Convergence; before we consider realistic prospects and priorities; before we look up Burke or Kirk or Goldwater or Reagan or whichever gospels in search of first principles; before we even know whether we’re attacking 100 years of policy or 100 years of thinking, or perhaps, in fact, an outlook exactly as old as human civilization and integral to it; before we ask ourselves whether the Founders, or Lincoln, or the Greatest Generation, or Reagan, weren’t in critical regards the progressive revolutionaries or evolutionaries of their day; before we ask whether Glenn Beck himself isn’t advocating a totalized utopian crusade against a social ill he calls progressivism; before we ask whether the absolute eradication and uncompromising, social-political surgical extirpation of a creed or ideology can ever be an American, a democratic and republican, project – we can say one thing with certainty about a perspective that defines the enemies among our fellow citizens and the terms of the struggle as Beck’s (often) does:

It’s not conservative.

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I’m missing something here. What’s wrong with hating Woodrow Wilson? I hate him. He was the biggest racist. He set this country back decades in race relations. And this little factoid about Wilson is never talked about. Another example of leftard double standards.

Blake on February 24, 2010 at 4:45 PM

Hang in there Beck!!! Do not be intimidated by the schoolyard bullies.

mobydutch on February 24, 2010 at 4:45 PM

It’s hard to criticize Beck when he attacks Progressivism. Yes, it is an intellectual and political movement that has brought this country to the brink of disaster.

Beck’s theoretical and historical disquisitions on Progressivism are good and enlightening. But his intellectual honesty is strained when he tars both political parties with the same brush. It wouldn’t undercut his arguments against Progressivism to say that the Dems (and Libs in particular) are the biggest offenders. Why he feels he must take a pox-on-both-their-houses approach shows the limits to his critical thinking. He takes the simplistic approach to criticizing Progressivism.

And this reflects in the results of his rants. Yes, nice job on getting Van Jones booted out of office, but is there anything more to show for all his eloquence?

He needs to rise above his own cleverness and take on Progressivism where it lives. We’ve seen where cleverness and charisma can take you (e.g. 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.), but it takes better weaponry to destroy Progressivism.

EMD on February 24, 2010 at 4:45 PM

Blah, Blah, Blah …

Another “Red on Red” attack.

Pick a Conservative – a successful Conservative (like Beck) – someone how motivates the base – someone who EXPOSES the Socialist agenda – someone who EXPLAINS and LIGHTS A PASSION in the hearts of Americans for thier constitution …

Find a person like that – ATTACK HIM (even though he’s on your side).

Destroy him!

Rinse and Repeat.

CK – this piece is pure sloth – and does NOTHING to help our side.

Thanks dude! Really … thanks a lot!

I see John McRage continues to influence the party – attack your own!

HondaV65 on February 24, 2010 at 4:47 PM

So the other day I described it as The Enlightenment for the Industrial Era, but I’m willing to consider its root in the very basic idea of “progress,” which goes back to the very beginning of the beginning., and may be another name for civilization.

Good gravy marie!

So progressivism is the essence of civilization?

I guess that makes conservatives the Armies of Darkness and Barbarism?

sharrukin on February 24, 2010 at 4:48 PM

One more thing – to say that Levin, Rush, Bennett and others are criticizing Beck because of their “egos” is the sort of childish thing that tweeners say like, “she’s just jealous of me!” They have substantive disagreements with Beck’s moral equivalency of Republicans to Democrats, and egos have nothing to do with it. I have complained about this aspect of Beck’s otherwise brilliant show for awhile now. Is it my “ego” which causes me to be perturbed by this?

Buy Danish on February 24, 2010 at 4:48 PM

Glenn and Sarah are going to be in Tulsa, OK March 13 for a show. Just FYI.
L

letget on February 24, 2010 at 4:49 PM

Bennett has been feeding at the government nipple for too long. Beck’s right! Both parties are in love with big government. One more so than the other. Your call as to which one!

And another thing, there is nothing wrong with spending money. But it’s like the first time you try scotch! YOU DON”T GULP DOWN A BIG MONTH FULL! You sip and judge. If it works for you, you go back for more. But you don’t drink the whole damned bottle just to find out it makes you sick!

And that’s his point! If you don’t understand that, wake up people!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on February 24, 2010 at 4:49 PM

I’m not a huge fan of becks style either, but I don’t tart that observation up with SAT words and pretend it’s substantial analysis.

TheUnrepentantGeek on February 24, 2010 at 4:50 PM

Beck is right in the long run, but wrong in the short run. The GOP definitely needs to concentrate more on reducing the size and scope of government. But the two parties aren’t the same. If Al Gore had been President for 8 years, we’d already be bankrupt by now.

hawksruleva on February 24, 2010 at 4:50 PM

I was enjoying this post, finding much worthy of praise and food for thought. Until I hit this:

You can be thankful to Glenn Beck for his contributions to American conservatism – for helping to keep the political flame alive, even build it, during a bleakly dark time – and yet still wonder whether, going forward, his pet themes

Do me a favor? Try writing as though this phrase never existed, as though it would never occur to you to use the words “going” and “forward” together as a meaningful phrase.

Though, I am curious, and you can e-mail me privately, as to what compelled you to add this completely superfluous phrase to an otherwise perfectly good sentence. Thanks.

netherman79 on February 24, 2010 at 4:52 PM

Well, the media is finally waking up to this ‘infighting’

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl1179

These guys need to knock it off. We cant afford to have infighting amongst those who have aided in our movement and getting people involved. If the media stays on this, it isnt going to be good for us. So Levin, Rush, and others……..knock it off!

bucsox79 on February 24, 2010 at 4:52 PM

Buy Danish on February 24, 2010 at 4:48 PM

No, but you’re not a talk show host, either.

Rush also describes himself as primarily an entertainer. I know little of Levin, so I cannot speak much of him. I ask of others – is it truly that crazy to imagine they might be jealous of him?

I listen to Rush as time allows, and am subscribed to his site. I think he has an inflated ego – I don’t see jealousy as an impossibility. You can say that it is back to schoolyard bickering amongst teenagers, but humans will be humans.

And as they say, high school never ends.

KinleyArdal on February 24, 2010 at 4:54 PM

Anyone who does not get annoyed at Glenn Beck doesn’t have two brain cells to rub together.

There are videos at YouTube of a performance Beck gave where he explains why he’s a Mormon. Not only will that performance clue you in on Beck’s shtick, it should also tell you something about his reasoning skills. That something is that he doesn’t have any.

Beck claims that he became a Mormon only after a lot of research and investigation of other churches. Beck claims he visited many different churches searching for the true church for him. He goes on and on about how he really didn’t want to be a Mormon, did everything he could to avoid being a Mormon, but that in the end he just couldn’t keep denying the obvious truth.

So Beck is not a Mormon because he was born a Mormon. He truly believes it’s the only true religion. He’s a devout convert who is convinced Mormon’s are… He’s a MORMON people!

Jaynie59 on February 24, 2010 at 4:54 PM

Check it out on Youtube.! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrxI_euTX4A

KinleyArdal on February 24, 2010 at 4:54 PM

It takes all kinds of soldiers to win a war. If all our troops were out of the same mold, we’d surely lose.

I, for one, am glad to have Glenn Beck on our side. He gives us hope that we may some day restore Constitutional government.

petefrt on February 24, 2010 at 4:55 PM

Beck reads his neoconservative emails and follows cues from his sidekick who loves Rick Perry,

You have difficulty understanding English. Beck’s “sidekick” (who is from TX) openly challenges Perry as someone who talks a good game when running for office, but once he’s won the election, doesn’t govern the way he talks.

The Monster on February 24, 2010 at 4:55 PM

Beck’s theoretical and historical disquisitions on Progressivism are good and enlightening. But his intellectual honesty is strained when he tars both political parties with the same brush… He takes the simplistic approach to criticizing Progressivism.
EMD on February 24, 2010 at 4:45 PM

Well-said. The only thing I can think of to explain this is that he may be afraid of having the Fairness Doctrine types in Obama’s administration go after him if he isn’t fair and balanced, so he errs on the side of extreme caution.

Find a person like that – ATTACK HIM (even though he’s on your side).
Destroy him!
Rinse and Repeat.
HondaV65 on February 24, 2010 at 4:47 PM

Ha! Look in the mirror, dude.

Buy Danish on February 24, 2010 at 4:55 PM

Regarding Fox giving Islamists a pass, see the articles at Atlas Shrugs.

GaltBlvnAtty on February 24, 2010 at 4:56 PM

Well, the media is finally waking up to this ‘infighting’

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl1179

These guys need to knock it off. We cant afford to have infighting amongst those who have aided in our movement and getting people involved. If the media stays on this, it isnt going to be good for us. So Levin, Rush, and others……..knock it off!

bucsox79 on February 24, 2010 at 4:52 PM

I think this will only make people like Levin get louder though. After all, he FINALLY gets mentioned by the media…by name in one entire sentence. He must be so proud. This really, is all he wants. Jealousy and envy is the sole thing that drives Levin’s hate toward Beck. He never gave Beck a chance from day one.

bucsox79 on February 24, 2010 at 4:56 PM

Jaynie59 on February 24, 2010 at 4:54 PM

That was a boundlessly fascinating rant. By the way, I have this sneaking hunch that you don’t like Mormons. o.o

KinleyArdal on February 24, 2010 at 4:56 PM

It’s hard for me to view any of this as demagogy after a decade of hearing democrats call Bush, Cheney, and me imposter, selected, fascists, nazis, racists, etc.

And, even if they hadn’t said it, I still would have trouble finding such language Beck uses as demagogy.

People will listen to Beck until they get tired of him — or not. Their call. However, the conservative masses don’t take orders from him.

Blake on February 24, 2010 at 4:56 PM

By leaping to the defense of the R party—which undeniably shares responsibility with the D party for the mess we’re in now; the overwhelming size and scope of government, soft tyranny—by defending the indefensible, Rush positions himself as part of the problem.

FloatingRock on February 24, 2010 at 4:57 PM

Jaynie59 on February 24, 2010 at 4:54 PM

Have you noticed that your bigoted crap doesn’t go down well here?

katy the mean old lady on February 24, 2010 at 4:57 PM

I don’t watch Beck enough to have a firm opinion of him, but I would remind anyone in public life who has a special gift for rousing the public that politics in a representative democracy is unlikely to satisfy the public passions thus excited. There is a reason why some people stick to political theater while others struggle with day to day chores of governing. God help us if those two vocations are ever irretrievably confused.

Seth Halpern on February 24, 2010 at 4:57 PM

Although I have no problem with commentaries about Beck, Limbaugh, O’Reilly, etc. I never quite agree with any of them. Critics are allowed, but the problem I have with them is that they somehow assume rational adults can’t pick and chose which points we agree on and which we don’t so we need someone to point them out. Not bashing here, just stating something that bothers me when I read critiques of conservatives. I watch O’Reilly every night and disagree with him probably 40% of the time, but still enjoy his thought process as I do with Beck.

momof2 on February 24, 2010 at 4:58 PM

Jaynie59 on February 24, 2010 at 4:54 PM

Libeals are always the most tolerant among us. Aren’t They? /

kingsjester on February 24, 2010 at 4:58 PM

Jaynie59 on February 24, 2010 at 4:54 PM

So … not a fan of the Mormons. Gotcha.

PS. Not a Mormon, but you actually made me more sympathetic toward them with that little screed.

TheUnrepentantGeek on February 24, 2010 at 4:58 PM

It is all about egos, radio ratings, and the old guard. If Glenn Beck were a little known radio announcer with a small audience, Levin wouldn’t give a hoot.

mobydutch on February 24, 2010 at 4:59 PM

If congress approval is 10% what is the conclusion we can draw? Beck’s detractors are trying to work within the system.
As for Bennett, is the government education system better after he left office…..NO! If the system is broken no amount of reform is going to fix it. Beck isn’t calling for a revolution. He simply wants to end corruption.
The only thing so far that I disagree with Beck as well as Bennett, Rush, and Levin is that Lincoln was one of the worst of our presidents (Thomas Dilorenzo for one and MLK was a socialist).

lilium on February 24, 2010 at 5:00 PM

I like Glen Beck..no..I love glenn beck. BUT, I do get annoyed with him at times. I think he may be guilty of being too wrapped up in ‘being’ Glenn Beck.
I didn’t like his election night attack on Scott Brown. I absolutely DO NOT like his walk to the edge of endorsing a third party theory, and then stepping back from it.
The whole ‘theres no difference between parties’ thing is
idiocy. I don’t care how many fans he has.

Handel on February 24, 2010 at 5:01 PM

I like Levin, Beck, Rush, Bennett. If they don’t get along, I’m not going to stop being friends with the one they don’t like.

Blake on February 24, 2010 at 5:01 PM

Where to start…

First, let us start with a challenge to you. Here is your statement:

“You can be a fan of Glenn Beck’s – you might even be Glenn Beck himself – and acknowledge that his rhetoric is sometimes irresponsible. You can be thankful to Glenn Beck for his contributions to American conservatism – for helping to keep the political flame alive, even build it, during a bleakly dark time – and yet still wonder whether, going forward, his pet themes, favorite arguments, and customary stances aren’t counterproductive and divisive, where not embarrassing. In short, you can agree with everything J.E. wrote, yet still be concerned about the way that Glenn Beck habitually brings vindictive hatred and a self-destructive and dangerous extremism into conservative discourse.”

Okay. Here is the challenge. Name three. Name three things you personally find “counterproductive”, “divisive”, and “embarrassing”. And then explain why in a few sentences. If it is that bad, I’m assuming a few sentences will cover your point.

While you are at it think about what Beck is trying to get across to the average Joe who may not have time to really pay attention to the details as do the professional political commentators. If you have been listening to him every day then you must have caught his talk about how he does not want a third party and is very much aware of the dangers involved…if you watch him every day..as you say you do.

However, as much as he can go off on a tangent, something he clearly admits to continuously on both the TV and radio, his basic argument that the concept of “big government” infects both parties is very accurate. GWB, whom I liked, was a big government man as was his father. Remember when his dad called tax cuts “voodoo economics”? Remember when his dad, after promising not to, raised taxes and then lost his own re-election?

Many, many people who have spent their lives inside government or inside companies that interact with government really don’t realize how infectious the problem has gotten. Humans tend to adjust to the status quo no matter how bad that may be. (Read up on Mao’s China and try to put yourself in the shoes of a citizen during the Cultural Revolution.) I’ll bet money you don’t really accept as a premise the deconstruction of the established government as an option. Not the destruction, but the deconstruction. For example, do we really need a department of education? Do we really need half of the cabinet level positions? The Czars? The almost endless supply of bureaucrats and administrative employees in order to run this nation?? No cuts? No cut backs? Just fine the way it is?

Seriously. If you wake up in the morning thinking this can go on forever, you are a living a fool’s dream. No nation can stand such an oppressive type of government for long. As you can see China is moving towards a more free citizenry (with a lot of fits and stops), Europe will sink into further disarray (they tend to go in that direction until another tyrant shows up), and the nations who embrace free will and free enterprise will bounce by us like an excited puppy. The mindset of global citizenship and governments working together with the model “European statism” as their guide, will only create greater taxes, greater regulations and greater harm to the people.

Beck is railing against the machine right now as he as realized, like many of us have, just how much trouble we are in. Just today he spoke of being realistic enough to know that we cannot turn back time a hundred years saying he would be happy for about 1980 as a starting point. We will have to re-educate generations of children to offset those badly treated by the current system. We will have to prove to them that beyond all other desires, freedom is the one that opens the door for all the others.

Ever hear McCain talk like that? (Except when running for re-election and even after the words he runs across the aisle to pass another big government program or law. McCain Feingold ring a bell??) How about Graham? Snowe? Reid? Pelosi? No. What you hear and see are “royals” talking down to the little people and flying around in taxpayer paid planes as though they were flitting from coronation to coronation.

Europeans and Russians and Chinese have thousands of years of kings and emperors and tyrants and Czars and “party chairman” and accept their roles as drones and peasants. We Americans have not. And we are getting far too close to finding out what that is like in this day and age. This is what motivates Beck and his followers. I get it. I understand the innate hatred of people who would rule others because they believe they have that right by virtue of birth, or education, or class. What was it that Bill Maher said? “People are too stupid… What we need are leaders…” To lead us where?

Too bad you don’t. You all remind me of those people in zombie movies who run around refusing to accept the reality and always get eaten first. Here are my thoughts on that-

http://truthandcommonsense.com/2010/02/20/zombies-and-liberals-democrats-why-i-wish-the-living-dead-would-pay-a-visit/

archer52 on February 24, 2010 at 5:03 PM

This kind of language is not just exaggerated (and cliché): It’s pure demagogy

yes it is

runner on February 24, 2010 at 5:05 PM

One more thing – to say that Levin, Rush, Bennett and others are criticizing Beck because of their “egos” is the sort of childish thing that tweeners say like,

Buy Danish on February 24, 2010 at 4:48 PM

I don’t know about Rush and Bennett, but Mark’s ego has been attacking Beck for a year, at least. If you listen to the first hour of Levin’s show on Monday, 80% of it was irrational hyperbole. He was all over the map, seeming to agree with Beck, then not, then making outlandish claims, for example that Beck attacked ALL Republicans, rank and file, and ALL conservatives.

In Mark’s case, most of it was ego, IMO. There’s an hour of evidence on his web site.

FloatingRock on February 24, 2010 at 5:06 PM

So, we can’t tolerate some excesses by Beck because the mindless drones who listen will march off to destroy the planet? Surely, we don’t believe that.

littleguy on February 24, 2010 at 5:07 PM

There is a reason why some people stick to political theater while others struggle with day to day chores of governing. God help us if those two vocations are ever irretrievably confused.

Seth Halpern on February 24, 2010 at 4:57 PM

I’m sorry, you must have been overseas. Were you not here on the 20th of January 2009?!

KinleyArdal on February 24, 2010 at 5:07 PM

Irresponsible rhetoric!

On Talk Radio!

In America!

Sheesh, or as WFBjr would say, gee whiz.

daesleeper on February 24, 2010 at 5:08 PM

I think that Glenn Beck is in it for Glenn Beck.

Babino on February 24, 2010 at 5:08 PM

I think that Glenn Beck is in it for Glenn Beck.

Babino on February 24, 2010 at 5:08 PM

This just in: People have self-interest!

STOP THE PRESSES!

TheUnrepentantGeek on February 24, 2010 at 5:10 PM

I am really getting tired of debating Glenn Beck. I think this article is unnecessary. No one is being forced to watch or listen to Glenn. He appeals to some, but not to others. The same thing happens with Hannity, Levin, and Limbaugh. That’s why there is room for all of them. I have listened to them all and learned from each of them, but I stopped listening to Levin when he began attacking Beck. I don’t have time for that nonsense.

As for the third party issue, Beck has never called for a third party. It seems to me that it’s just the opposite. He’s warning the Republicans to get their act together and stop compromising their principles or a third party will rise up among those conservatives who feel disenfranchised and betrayed.

Quite frankly, we need the prodding that Beck gives us. I was one of those Americans who always voted and then never paid attention to what was going on in the legislature until the next election came along. Had it not been for talk radio, I would still be clueless. But I, along with other Americans, am now awake. Beck’s rants about politicians are a reminder to me to vote for the best candidates I can and then never take my eye off of my representatives while they are in office. In the end, the American people are responsible for the mess this country is in because we failed to keep watch on Washington. We let them run away with our freedoms and now are finding it difficult to corral those people in and retrieve our freedoms.

If your neighbor called you to tell you that your house is on fire or your car is being stolen, would you ignore the warning because you can’t stand your neighbor? At the very least, you would take a look to see if it’s true. The same is true for Beck and his colleagues. You don’t have to agree with them, but at least take time to check if there’s truth to their warnings.

desertliving on February 24, 2010 at 5:13 PM

To show how obsessed Mark Levin is with Glenn Beck, he used to make fun of the fact that Beck came out with a paperback book called Common Sense. I did not know that a paperback book was somehow a disgrace, but Mark mocked it regularly. Now, that Sean Hannity is coming out with a paperback, Mark is elated. I know this sounds stupid and immature, but that kind of crap is going on.

mobydutch on February 24, 2010 at 5:14 PM

desertliving on February 24, 2010 at 5:13 PM

Well stated

thomasaur on February 24, 2010 at 5:15 PM

I think that Glenn Beck is in it for Glenn Beck.

Babino on February 24, 2010 at 5:08 PM

Ok, and what about Rush, Levin, Hannity? You think they are only doing what they do for the good of the Republic?

Look over the past year and or so. Who has actually gotten off their behind to seemingly try and educate/make a difference? Not Rush. He sits on his butt for 3 hours, nothing more, nothing less. Levin, again, sits on his butt ranting and raving and has been attacking Glenn since he joined Fox and his ratings were equal or higher than his pal Hannity.
Now Hannity, he does his concert thing once a year, which is at least something, but largely just sits on his butt rehashing things. He brings nothing new to the table. Levin brings little new to the table. And Rush brings some good incite and though I like him, Beck puts more effort and work into it all. He has gone out of his way to educate and try and make a difference.

bucsox79 on February 24, 2010 at 5:16 PM

I have to respectfully disagree with the author’s premise and conclusion. The reason people like Bennett and Levin were so quick to go on the defensive was because Beck wasn’t just criticizing Republican politicians – he was criticizing establishment pundits and intellectuals as well. I can understand their pique. They are both longtime members of the party and former loyal employees of Ronald Reagan. If I had that pedigree I wouldn’t like being called out either. (To Levin’s credit, he shares the same animus toward Progressives/Progressivism as Beck, but I’m inclined to agree with a previous commenter that his reaction seems to be tinged more with professional jealousy than substantive criticisim. I turned him off the other day after about the fourth ad hominem.

Also, I don’t think anyone at the conference or listening via radio mistook for one second what Beck was referring to with his supposedly “hateful” invocations against progressives. He, like millions of other conservatives and liberatarians, hate the ideology and not necessarily the people who espouse it. There’s no question some prominent progressives just happen to be loathsome human beings deserving of contempt, but to insinuate that Beck’s rhetoric bears any similarity to the eliminationist rhetoric of a certain early 20th Century German politician you alluded to is ridiculous and dare I say it, not conservative.

RobertE on February 24, 2010 at 5:16 PM

Excellent, RobertE !!!!!!!!!!!!

mobydutch on February 24, 2010 at 5:19 PM

To show how obsessed Mark Levin is with Glenn Beck, he used to make fun of the fact that Beck came out with a paperback book called Common Sense. I did not know that a paperback book was somehow a disgrace, but Mark mocked it regularly. Now, that Sean Hannity is coming out with a paperback, Mark is elated. I know this sounds stupid and immature, but that kind of crap is going on.

mobydutch on February 24, 2010 at 5:14 PM

All evidence equate to Levin has been, and will continue to be a jealous whiney little man. And the only reason Hannity keeps his mouth shut is because Beck works at Fox News. Something just as pathetic as Levin though that he does….banning any mention of Beck’s name on his message board if someone says the name “beck” during any time Hannity is on the air. That is just childish, pathetic jealousy. Especially from a guy who doesnt bring anything intelligent to the table.

bucsox79 on February 24, 2010 at 5:19 PM

Why don’t we have a post at HA about the shortcomings of Levin?

mobydutch on February 24, 2010 at 5:20 PM

There’s no question some prominent progressives just happen to be loathsome human beings deserving of contempt, but to insinuate that Beck’s rhetoric bears any similarity to the eliminationist rhetoric of a certain early 20th Century German politician you alluded to is ridiculous and dare I say it, not conservative.

RobertE on February 24, 2010 at 5:16 PM

Exactly.

TheUnrepentantGeek on February 24, 2010 at 5:22 PM

Why don’t we have a post at HA about the shortcomings of Levin?

mobydutch on February 24, 2010 at 5:20 PM

Excellent question. Perhaps because Levin’s a ‘safe’ pundit?

KinleyArdal on February 24, 2010 at 5:22 PM

If anyone listened to Rush today, can you tell me why he kept repeating “but the Republicans are just as bad” as he went to break, etc.? Is this related to Beck?

silvernana on February 24, 2010 at 4:33 PM

Not directly. It was his sarcastic response to a caller named Ruth who criticized Rush for not waving his magic wand & changing RINOs into conservatives.

OhioCoastie on February 24, 2010 at 5:22 PM

Remember Beck’s BIG announcement from the Villages? What did it amount to? “Buy my book”.

Beck is a great entertainer. That’s all that he is. Nothing more.

Babino on February 24, 2010 at 5:22 PM

Why don’t we have a post at HA about the shortcomings of Levin?

mobydutch on February 24, 2010 at 5:20 PM

He gets a good pummeling on Beck threads

thomasaur on February 24, 2010 at 5:23 PM

Why don’t we have a post at HA about the shortcomings of Levin?

mobydutch on February 24, 2010 at 5:20 PM

Because most of us know, hes hardly relevant anymore. Little does he realize, I think his childish behavior is turning off listeners. I stopped months ago.

Look at the headline on Yahoo. This is not what we need right now as conservatives.

“Infighting rattles GOP during crucial week

A sudden backlash against Scott Brown is just the start of eruptions within the party. Limbaugh targets Glenn Beck”

bucsox79 on February 24, 2010 at 5:24 PM

Samuue Adams, Thomas Paine, John Dickinson, Patrick Henry, George Mason, etc., were all men of wisdom, yet they had competing ideas and vastly different temperaments. They were all essential to the cause.

Beck is a Samuel Adams or a Paine or possibly a Henry. He speaks big and bold and he rallies the troops. He is essential for the moment.

So, we who have lesser megaphones listen to them all: Levin, Rush, Coulter, Morrisey and whomever, then decide what makes sense and apply that knowledge at the voting booth.

Simple enough, so why get all bent about it?

pugwriter on February 24, 2010 at 5:25 PM

I agree bucsox, but Glenn Beck did not start nor has he responded to the likes of Levin.

mobydutch on February 24, 2010 at 5:27 PM

I think Beck’s approach (one of purity and getting party identity out of the equation and dealing with ideas and values and actions instead) is good for long term strategy. Over time we want more people in government who aren’t corrupt and who understand and respect the constitution and fiscal responsibility blah blah blah.

However, in the short term Beck seems to sometimes overlook some basic realities. You may not find a politician who fits the bill. If you do or someone close in a primary election then by all means do all you can to support them. But to pretend that there is some insignificant difference between Democrats and Republicans is insanity. Did the GOP run up the deficit? Yes, but what they did is childs play compared to what Democrats are trying to do. Did the GOP increase the size of government? Yes, but again not nearly on the scale as the Democrats. How many in the GOP would support the federal government taking over 1/6th the economy or controlling most industry through Cap and Trade? How many Democrats? That’s what I thought.

gwelf on February 24, 2010 at 5:30 PM

yet still be concerned about the way that Glenn Beck habitually brings vindictive hatred and a self-destructive and dangerous extremism into conservative discourse.

I listen to Beck everyday and watch his show whenever possible. I have yet to see he do ANY of the above. As a matter of fact, I find his shows to be uplifting and reaffirming of the conservative ideals of individual liberty and freedom. Now, if you want to talk about the crying….
Only someone not familiar with him, taking his words out of context, would describe him in such a manner.
I wonder if “halfway” listening to his radio show “almost every weekday” really means watching/listening to clips only portraying him as a “dangerous” extremist.

MississippiMom on February 24, 2010 at 5:37 PM

I know nothing in life is fair, but I think a post about the annoying Levin would be very fair. Thank goodness yesterday for the post by J.E. Dyer. That was a first at HA. Since Levin wants to continue the infighting, he really needs to be publically exposed for all of his constant rants about Glenn Beck.

mobydutch on February 24, 2010 at 5:37 PM

Let’s REALLY drum this up into a big issue.

Let’s have TONS of column ink devoted to it.

Let’s get a FIRESTORM going about how Back and Levin/Bennet/Wehner have some differences.

After all, they must disagree on 2 or 3% of stuff.

Yepper. That’s the ticket. Maybe we hand the keys to the future to the fascists with their tiny band of brainwashed disciples, but at least we’ll have the satisfaction of slapping down a clown who dares to disagree with a superior strategy.

notagool on February 24, 2010 at 5:38 PM

He was all over the map, seeming to agree with Beck, then not, then making outlandish claims, for example that Beck attacked ALL Republicans, rank and file, and ALL conservatives.
FloatingRock on February 24, 2010 at 5:06 PM

What the hell do you call it when someone says, day in and day out, that “Republicans are just as bad as Democrats”? I’d say that that is the “outlandish claim”.

Beck also never gives credit to the Republicans who voted against Porkulus, and all the other crap sandwiches that came out of Congress since Obama was elected.

He’s not giving people any reason to support or vote for Republicans. Do you think that’s a good idea? Is it a good way to defeat Obama’s horrid “progressive” agenda?

Buy Danish on February 24, 2010 at 5:42 PM

How many in the GOP would support the federal government taking over 1/6th the economy or controlling most industry through Cap and Trade? How many Democrats? That’s what I thought.

gwelf on February 24, 2010 at 5:30 PM

The 2008 Republican presidential candidate supported Cap and Trade.

Of course there are differences between the parties, but they’re both heading the same direction, that much is clear.

FloatingRock on February 24, 2010 at 5:43 PM

Levin has already devoted tons of ink and badmouthing to this situation. I really don’t know the percentage on agreement or disagreement, but I do know there is plenty of room for more than just a few conservative ideas or voices.

mobydutch on February 24, 2010 at 5:43 PM

As we speak he is dragging Van Jones around and tying him around John Podesta’s and BHO’s neck…who else?

d1carter on February 24, 2010 at 5:44 PM

Beck also never gives credit to the Republicans who voted against Porkulus, and all the other crap sandwiches that came out of Congress since Obama was elected.

Buy Danish

On his radio show he mentions house republicans all the time, and recently, he is beginning to take notice of Mike Pence. I have heard him say stuff like “thank goodness for the House Republicans…at least they have a spine.”
Beck might generalize his statements regarding republicans from time to time, just like you made the generalization of using the word “never”.

MississippiMom on February 24, 2010 at 5:48 PM

Holy schmoly! Enough already with the Beck “controversy” or “threat to conservatism” or whatever the heck it is with all you bloggers, columnists, analysts and radio hosts. Beck is over the top a lot of the time, and all you rightwing critics of Beck who are putting everything he says under a microscope and parsing his everyword are equally over the top. What a lot of nonsense. I, for one, will not be reading anymore “WTF IS WRONG WITH BECK”, “BECK IS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT”, yada, yada, yada blog posts. Ridiculous. ROTFL

JimP on February 24, 2010 at 5:48 PM

So… it’s not conservative to attack tyranny currently under the guise of progressivism? Maybe if those in the GOP who are progressive don’t want to be attacked by Glenn Beck and his fans they shouldn’t be pimps of a big government hell. While I wasn’t a fan of Beck’s CPAC speech for other reasons, you are way off base to say we shouldn’t call out progressive agenda for the cancer it is. Even if that includes certain members of the GOP. Big government is bad whether it’s coming form Democrats or Republicans.

chicagojedi on February 24, 2010 at 5:48 PM

Why don’t we have a post at HA about the shortcomings of Levin?

mobydutch on February 24, 2010 at 5:20 PM

Because he is a good party man, and Beck is rocking the boat.

sharrukin on February 24, 2010 at 5:50 PM

His sidekick that you hear on his show is a loyal supporter of slick Rick.

‘Scuse me? Pat HATES Rick Perry. Glenn’s the one who used to like Perry, then Pat set him straight.

The only way you could assert that Pat is a loyal supporter of “slick Rick” is if you don’t listen to the show enough to know what you’re talking about or you do and you’re lying. Which one?

dicentra63 on February 24, 2010 at 5:50 PM

So, we who have lesser megaphones listen to them all: Levin, Rush, Coulter, Morrisey and whomever, then decide what makes sense and apply that knowledge at the voting booth.

Simple enough, so why get all bent about it?

pugwriter on February 24, 2010 at 5:25 PM

That’s been going on for years with bloggers and commenters. They also can be snobs.

Blake on February 24, 2010 at 5:50 PM

Utopianism is the true enemy. Beck’s endorsement of a Utopian world is every bit as dangerous as the Left’s.
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Here’s the truth about utopias: they always, ALWAYS, end up as dystopias. The beauty of democratic capitalism is that is the most anti-utopian form of governance known to man. It’s the chaos of the marketplace, the tug of war of ideas. To slightly alter a Dean Shultz quote, “Nothing gets settled in this arena.” And that’s a good, good thing.

Beck is dangerously close to crazy. I like him, but he’s dangerously close to that line.

MaxMBJ on February 24, 2010 at 5:51 PM

JimP, maybe you should address your complaint to the employees of HotAir. This was their decision to come up with this post.

mobydutch on February 24, 2010 at 5:51 PM

What the hell do you call it when someone says, day in and day out, that “Republicans are just as bad as Democrats”? I’d say that that is the “outlandish claim”.

Obviously he was referring to the parties, not the rank and file. At least it’s obvious to me, but then I’m factoring in the “context” that Levin chose to ignore.

FloatingRock on February 24, 2010 at 5:54 PM

He just took Valerie Jarrett a part on national tv. Who else is doing that?

d1carter on February 24, 2010 at 5:56 PM

Buy Danish on February 24, 2010 at 5:42 PM

I remember that conversation we had several years ago about Romney-Care, which you support(ed). I can understand why you dislike Beck, he’s a threat, but the context of Beck’s comments are still relevant.

FloatingRock on February 24, 2010 at 5:59 PM

If Beck is so hated by Levin (which he is), I can only imagine how the Libs and the Obama administration must be reacting.

mobydutch on February 24, 2010 at 5:59 PM

we can say one thing with certainty about a perspective that defines the enemies among our fellow citizens and the terms of the struggle as Beck’s (often) does:

It’s not conservative.

On what planet? If you’re a conservative (read: classical liberal) and your fellow citizens want to turn you into a quasi-European stinkhole, it’s not “conservative” to want to defeat them?

What, you think Glenn is hoping to lead an armed insurrection? Or that he’s so careless with his words that he’ll be the spark that lights the tinderbox?

You can be a fan of Glenn Beck’s – you might even be Glenn Beck himself – and acknowledge that his rhetoric is sometimes irresponsible.

Yes, it sounds like that’s exactly what worries you! For the sake of Pete, man, are you buying into the Lefty notion that the TEA Partiers really are a bunch of knuckle-dragging Neanderthals who are ready to explode at any second, if Glenn Beck sends us over the edge with his “irresponsible” rhetoric?

Geez, who’s crying “the sky is falling” now?

Glenn’s critics are mad because he slammed the GOP, telling them that they’re not much better than the Lefties who are steering the ship right into the iceberg, whereas the GOP will likely keep the rudder locked into place and only slow the motor a bit.

Glenn’s not calling for mutiny; he’s telling us to man the lifeboats.

Get a grip already. Learn to interpret spoken English.

dicentra63 on February 24, 2010 at 6:00 PM

Blah, Blah, Blah …

Another “Red on Red” attack.

Pick a Conservative – a successful Conservative (like Beck) – someone how motivates the base – someone who EXPOSES the Socialist agenda – someone who EXPLAINS and LIGHTS A PASSION in the hearts of Americans for thier constitution …

Find a person like that – ATTACK HIM (even though he’s on your side).
Destroy him!
Rinse and Repeat.
CK – this piece is pure sloth – and does NOTHING to help our side. Thanks dude! Really … thanks a lot!
I see John McRage continues to influence the party – attack your own!

Amen, Honda!
Why is it that anyone who actually wakes up the lard bottom Republicans from their self-induced stupor gets lambasted for waking them up? From the reaction Mr. Beck got, I would say his audience agreed with him wholeheartedly. Course, they’re probably not “big-tent, no standards, everybody welcome, why the heck did they vote with the Democrats” kind of people.

gordo on February 24, 2010 at 6:01 PM

Mobydutch:

It wasn’t a complaint. I was making the point that too many people on the right have become obsessed, literally, with Glenn Beck. They need to stop, take a deep breath, go for a long walk or run. They don’t realize how paranoid they sound with all the talk about Beck the destroyer blah, blah. Beck isn’t the boogeyman. If they think he is, they probably need some professional help. Also, note I ended my remark with ROTFL. Indicating I am laughing about this tempest in a teapot, not complaining. Get a grip bloggers. You’re all over the top and sound hysterical.

Thanks for the feedback Moby. Next time I’ll try to be more clear about why I am commenting.

Best regards.

JimP on February 24, 2010 at 6:01 PM

This debate goes to the heart of the matter. The Republicans have no identity, none to speak of. The go-along-to-get-along mentality we have had from our leadership over the past two decades has watered down our identity as a Party. It has taken the “Tea Party” movement, a movement that is not just our own, to wake up the conservatives among us. Beck is just stating the obvious, and it has offended those who used to carry the water for previous administrations.

Glenn Beck fan, and for Jaynie59′s sake, not a Mormon…

RINO_Hunter on February 24, 2010 at 6:01 PM

MaxMBJ on February 24, 2010 at 5:51 PM

As opposed CK MacLeod who believes in a ‘living constitution‘ and the idea that Progressivism is ‘civilization‘?

That sort of thinking will get you to your dystopian world faster than anything else.

sharrukin on February 24, 2010 at 6:02 PM

The 2008 Republican presidential candidate supported Cap and Trade.

Of course there are differences between the parties, but they’re both heading the same direction, that much is clear.

FloatingRock on February 24, 2010 at 5:43 PM

They are headed the same direction but one is meandering that way and another is sprinting. Also, one party actually has people in it who are trying to swing things another direction.

And right now the speed of going that direction is more important than the direction itself. I would rather have a squishy RINO who would help to bring a majority to an overall more conservative party than have another Democrat in office who would never vote conservative and help to bring a liberal majority. In other words, things are too important and down to the wire right now to not do the practical thing and instead do the ideologically pure thing. Given what state you’re in and who’s running you may not have to make the choice in the general election between practicality and ideology but you may have to.

gwelf on February 24, 2010 at 6:05 PM

And while we’re on the subject, in his NRO article, Mr. Bennett credits the Republicans for the ascendancy of Conservatism recently. Last time I looked, the grass-roots Tea Party movement was out there alone in those town hall meetings, calling out some of those idiots laughingly called the “representatives” of the voters. Along comes Mr. Bennett with his new version of history and credits the Republican Party for this surge? yeah, right. I was in some of those town hall meetings and I didn’t see the Republican Party there.

gordo on February 24, 2010 at 6:06 PM

Beck is a good kid. A bit too understated I think.

happyfeet on February 24, 2010 at 6:10 PM

Beck might generalize his statements regarding republicans from time to time, just like you made the generalization of using the word “never”.
MississippiMom on February 24, 2010 at 5:48 PM

Yeah, well I don’t listen to his radio show. And it’s not “from time to time”, it’s a constant theme. He should be cheering on those members of Congress who are doing the right thing. I have never heard him say anything positive about the G.O.P. on his t.v. show since he began his lessons on progressives. I will allow for the fact I could have been out of the room, or missed a show where he said something positive. And I haven’t watched much since his CPAC speech.

Look, I get that the is trying to hold the GOP’s feet to the fire on fiscal issues. That’s fine. But there are a lot of people who hang on to his every word and just repeat what he says without thinking. They overuse the “progressive” word, and some are saying we should “throw them all out” of office (and those people are not confined to this website). This is not, shall we say, “helpful”.

Buy Danish on February 24, 2010 at 6:12 PM

Superb post, CK Macleod!
I agree with every word.
I would add 2 significant things:
1.) After outlining a history of Progressivism and its evils, why didn’t Beck exhort his audience to fight the Obama agenda right now?
ObamaCare, cap & trade, the “jobs” bill, card check, “Green initiatives,” etc.–This is all pure Progressivism/Socialism and it’s being voted on in Washington D.C. RIGHT NOW.
2.) Having trashed both political parties (erroneously), why not encourage the Tea Party movement again, some of which he helped fuel, like the 9/12 project?

It was a huge “teachable moment” that Professor Beck, with his blackboard, squandered.

Jenfidel on February 24, 2010 at 6:17 PM

Buy Danish on February 24, 2010 at 6:12 PM

The GOP doesn’t need cheerleaders the need critics.

thomasaur on February 24, 2010 at 6:17 PM

I told you Beck was over playing his hand!

KBird on February 24, 2010 at 6:21 PM

The GOP doesn’t need cheerleaders the need critics.

thomasaur on February 24, 2010 at 6:17 PM

That’s the ticket!
You and Beck and his fans demand that the GOP be like Caesar’s wife–”above reproach”–while the Democrat Party, who is responsible for 99% of the Socialist/Communist rot in this country,carry on completely unscathed.

Jenfidel on February 24, 2010 at 6:22 PM

I like CK even if I don’t agree with him/her.

Blake on February 24, 2010 at 6:22 PM

That’s the ticket!
You and Beck and his fans demand that the GOP be like Caesar’s wife–”above reproach”–while the Democrat Party, who is responsible for 99% of the Socialist/Communist rot in this country,carry on completely unscathed.

Jenfidel on February 24, 2010 at 6:22 PM

I didn’t realize the GOP had such a glass jaw.

KinleyArdal on February 24, 2010 at 6:23 PM

I remember that conversation we had several years ago about Romney-Care, which you support(ed). I can understand why you dislike Beck, he’s a threat, but the context of Beck’s comments are still relevant.
FloatingRock on February 24, 2010 at 5:59 PM

First of all, it’s not true that I don’t like Beck! I don’t like one aspect of his message, and I don’t like it when he cries, but I think he has done some brilliant work. If I see him as a “threat” it’s only because I worry about unintended consequences.

I supported “RomneyCare” because I knew that if the states didn’t do something on their own we’d end up with HillaryCare or ObamaCare – a warning I articulated here at Hot Air. Voila! Look what happened! If not for Scott Brown where would we be? And it ain’t over yet.

RomneyCare was an attempt to stop wasting taxpayer money on the uninsured who end up in emergency rooms, while covering the vast majority of the state. It was done at the State level which, unlike a federal program, is constitutional. It’s not perfect but it’s better than a federally mandated program, don’t you agree?

Buy Danish on February 24, 2010 at 6:23 PM

I didn’t realize the GOP had such a glass jaw.

KinleyArdal on February 24, 2010 at 6:23 PM

After the pummelling Republicans have taken during the last 10 years via the MSM attacking Bush and the Republican Congress every day, that’s not a “glass jaw” you see, but Rocky being beaten into a bloody pulp on the ropes by Apollo Creed.

Jenfidel on February 24, 2010 at 6:25 PM

You know, I almost wish that instead of sniping and lobbing spitballs at Beck, guys like Rush and Levin could sort of embrace him and figure out how to “brand” him as part of the conservative movement. He’s got an enormous following and he brings so much in the way of thinking about the historical context of the struggle, as J.E. pointed out. Why fight him and his following? Figure out how to “leverage” him for the cause, as they say in the corporate world.

Previous posters are absolutely right when they say all this infighting is a waste of time when our true opponent is statism and progressivism. Couldn’t Rush and Levin et al. just accept Beck as he is, acknowledge and be grateful for his strengths, and point out the important places where they part company. They can’t “manage” him–you can’t control Beck–but with a little cooperation they could “position” him (another great marketing word, there)–that is, take greater control of the story of how he fits in the movement. He’s the gadfly.

ThanksMo on February 24, 2010 at 6:29 PM

The GOP doesn’t need cheerleaders the need critics.
thomasaur on February 24, 2010 at 6:17 PM

I didn’t realize the GOP had such a glass jaw.
KinleyArdal on February 24, 2010 at 6:23 PM

The GOP needs continue to move in a fiscally sound direction. But if one were to take Beck literally, it would be pretty easy to believe that the message was “don’t vote for Republicans”. Indeed, a lot of people seem to have gotten exactly that message. If that’s not what Beck wants his faithful listeners to do, then he needs to clarify his positions.

I don’t know if either of you have young children but if all you do is provide negative feedback and punish them when they do the wrong thing, and don’t give them positive reinforcement when they do great things, you’re screwing up.

Buy Danish on February 24, 2010 at 6:31 PM

Beck is a good kid. A bit too understated I think.

happyfeet on February 24, 2010 at 6:10 PM

More and more in sync with strangelet with every passing day. It’s sad.

TheUnrepentantGeek on February 24, 2010 at 6:32 PM

I’m missing something here. What’s wrong with hating Woodrow Wilson? I hate him. He was the biggest racist. He set this country back decades in race relations. And this little factoid about Wilson is never talked about. Another example of leftard double standards

It’s always amazing to read that someone can claim to know how Wilson voted and acted yet can’t remember what happened 4 years ago with the occupant of the white house during the “down turn”.

Monkei on February 24, 2010 at 6:35 PM

The GOP doesn’t need cheerleaders the need critics.

thomasaur on February 24, 2010 at 6:17 PM

The good and honorable conservatives in the GOP need cheerleading.

gwelf on February 24, 2010 at 6:36 PM

The GOP needs continue to move in a fiscally sound direction. But if one were to take Beck literally, it would be pretty easy to believe that the message was “don’t vote for Republicans”. Indeed, a lot of people seem to have gotten exactly that message. If that’s not what Beck wants his faithful listeners to do, then he needs to clarify his positions.

I seldom agree with Beck, but he makes a point … no one should blindly vote for a party just because of the party … that is how we got into such a gridlock in Washington … politicians continue to win, americans continue to lose.

Monkei on February 24, 2010 at 6:36 PM

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