Video: Donny Deutsch calls Marco Rubio a “coconut”; Update: I didn’t know it was a slur, says Deutsch
posted at 4:32 pm on February 23, 2010 by Allahpundit
Such is my ignorance of this particular slur that I didn’t grasp the outrage when I first watched the clip. I took “coconut” to be some sort of archaic Three-Stooges-esque putdown, like “dimbulb” or “numbskull.” Turns out that the boss emeritus has been dealing with it for decades, just as black conservatives have had to deal with the “Oreo” nonsense. A review of the transcript at Newsbusters makes me think, yeah, that’s exactly how Deutsch intended it:
BEHAR: What’s his name? I don’t know him. Rubio?
DEUTSCH: Marco Rubio. He’s running against Charlie Crist, who I think has done a great job. And he is the new great, you now, hope down there.
BEHAR: So, basically, these people, the tea partiers are basically angry with the right and the left for the same reason, that there’s fiscal irresponsibility?
DEUTSCH: No, they’re angry- they’re basically- their argument is- and I think there’s a lot of racism underneath it- is- “He, they, are taking your civil liberties away. They’re stomping on the Constitution. They’re telling us how many bullets we can have in our guns.”
Rubio should consider himself lucky: Yesterday at The Root, Clarence Thomas got lumped in with Mugabe, Idi Amin, and the D.C. Sniper as black men so monstrously embarrassing to their race that history would have been better off without them. Looking forward to Rubes inevitably ending up on the left’s Cuban version of the same list, along with Batista and … well, anyone but Castro.
If you’re searching for a silver lining here, consider this evidence that Rubio really has arrived as a national figure. You’ll know he’s presidential timber when blackface photoshops of him start showing up on nutroots blogs. Click the image to watch.
Update: Hmmmm.
I said “coconut” meaning simple, goofy, bananas…wasn’t even aware it could be a racially charged word
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I just asked my wife who grew up in South FL, she has never heard the term “coconut” to describe a Hispanic person.
Squid Shark on February 23, 2010 at 8:26 PM
Yeah, right, Dandy Douche.
That’s contemporary slang you hear all the time.
I believe the last time it was used was in the Ziegfield Follies of 1912.
Let me channel ‘Comic Book Guy’:
Worst.
Excuse.
Ever.
Dr. Carlo Lombardi on February 23, 2010 at 8:27 PM
so, donny accuses tea party peeps of being racist, then makes a racist remark, then when called out for it, claims ignorance.
We aren’t supposed to believe he is a racist, even after making a racist remark, but he can accuse thousands of americans of being racist with no proof at all….
interesting.
Donny is a racist and a bigot.
sarainitaly on February 23, 2010 at 8:30 PM
Didnt you know any critisism of Rubio is raaaaaaaaaaascist.
Squid Shark on February 23, 2010 at 8:30 PM
Really?
List of ethnic slurs
Coconut
(New Zealand) A Pacific Islander. Named after the coconut, the nut from the coconut palm.[42]
(UK) A black person who exhibits behavior associated with caucasians; (US) a Hispanic person trying to be ‘white’. [43]
(South Africa) A black person who acts white[44]
DSchoen on February 23, 2010 at 8:32 PM
That settles it then. Why would anyone think a brown on the outside, white on the inside Coconut would be racist when used to describe a Hispanic? I mean, it’s silly right?
TheBigOldDog on February 23, 2010 at 8:43 PM
Coconut as a slur is a hell lot more known than Macaca!
Sorry, Donny, you lose!
thebrokenrattle on February 23, 2010 at 8:46 PM
Would have never thought it, but of course I am not looking for racist statements in everything my opponent says. Like
ObamaRubioSquid Shark on February 23, 2010 at 8:50 PM
Um… you don’t have to “look” for “coconut.”
mankai on February 23, 2010 at 9:00 PM
No.
Here’s a huge list, don’t know if its all inclusive but there are many I never heard of.
Racial Slur Database
http://www.rsdb.org/
DSchoen on February 23, 2010 at 9:02 PM
So, you wouldn’t have to worry about it if you weren’t calling people names, a habit well entrenched in liberals. Joy who? WTF! Reminds me of the nasty drivel I was exposed to yesterday on Air America. Jesus Christ!!!
LarryG on February 23, 2010 at 9:05 PM
who is this person and why should I or anyone else care?
Willie on February 23, 2010 at 9:05 PM
I know that Mr. Rubio is not your candidate but why are you ascribing this incident as something he is putting forward. He probably doesn’t even know about it. I am willing to give Mr. Deutsch the benefit of doubt even though the Left has ruined two political careers over things equally weak.
Cindy Munford on February 23, 2010 at 9:15 PM
If his intention truly wasn’t to make a racial remark, then why not choose one of the other myriad words for someone whose intelligence you’re trying to deride? There are tons.
Moron
Numbskill
Idiot
Simpleton
etc.
“Coconut” just seems to be such an obstruse term for a mentally-deficient or simple person to just pull out of the aair as the first word off the top of one’s head.
wv619 on February 23, 2010 at 9:17 PM
Really?
Sounds more like strait up “name calling” to me.
He mentioned nothing about “policies” something that could be criticized.
As to politicians with little to no experience, he could have been talking about Obama, do you really think he would refer to Obama as a “Coconut”?
DSchoen on February 23, 2010 at 9:17 PM
Riiiight.
Enoxo on February 23, 2010 at 9:21 PM
Oh no, your party just built an entire political industry on phony race outrage.
ClassicCon on February 23, 2010 at 9:22 PM
Who cares how he meant it. he said it and we must purge all those who dare to speak in utterances we find the least bit offensive. OFF with his head.
…right liberals?
Dash on February 23, 2010 at 9:23 PM
I’m supposed to believe a guy who endured 7th grade gym class with the last name “douche” doesn’t know an insulting slur when he uses it? Come on, Donny.
Rational Thought on February 23, 2010 at 9:24 PM
Squid Shark is a supporter of Gov. Crist.
Cindy Munford on February 23, 2010 at 9:26 PM
LOL!!!!!
Cindy Munford on February 23, 2010 at 9:27 PM
Exit question: If a commenter said that here at HotAir? would they get some swift ban hammer justice?
ted c on February 23, 2010 at 9:32 PM
I don’t buy that ‘splainin’ douche guy said. Nuts, whacko, bananas or crazy are more appropriate, but, “coconut?” who says that? I’ve never heard of it and I’m pretty confident that if I was searching my 8K RAM brain for a synonym for “crazy”, I doubt that it’d return “coconut.” But, that’s just me.
ted c on February 23, 2010 at 9:34 PM
Am I the only one who has never heard the word coconut used in that context? Bananas yes…coconut no.
AUINSC on February 23, 2010 at 9:34 PM
Ever time i watch this guy i get a “uber rich and out of touch living on a beach somewhere airhead” vibe. Seems like he’d be more at home doing infomercials than discussing politics.
clearbluesky on February 23, 2010 at 9:40 PM
I am sorry, I was referring to his supporters, not Rubio himself. He is not that stupid. I have been tagged as racist repeatedly on this forum and out on the campaign trail as well. Getting about as tired of it as I did with Obama.
Squid Shark on February 23, 2010 at 9:51 PM
I feel I need to qualify that, I am more against Rubio than for Crist. I have my share of issues with Crist, but at least I know where he stands.
Squid Shark on February 23, 2010 at 9:52 PM
This guy was in “Success” magazine and was touted as a small business guru. He sold the advertising company that his dad founded and has been living off of his millions from that deal.
I don’t know if he was any good as a businessman but his profile in the magazine made me wonder why he was considered an example of a success. Seems like he inherited everything.
Vince on February 23, 2010 at 9:58 PM
Doesn’t explain your defense of the slur.
Vince on February 23, 2010 at 10:00 PM
DEUTSCH bag liar
bill30097 on February 23, 2010 at 10:03 PM
There has to be some brilliant Photoshop artist who can come up with an appropriate Deutsch image based on this statement which can be used for all future threads involving him from this day forward.
Cylor on February 23, 2010 at 10:06 PM
Since I have never, in all my years in Florida heard the word coconut in spite of having worked with hispanic people of every stripe. I am not defending the slur, I am saying everyone is awfully quick to assume it is a slur.
Squid Shark on February 23, 2010 at 10:09 PM
As a conservative of hispanic descent, I have had to deal with this slur my entire adult life. In all honesty, it is painful to hear. It is difficult to understand, however, why such outwardly racist and vile language is acceptable so long as the insult is hurled at a conservative.
I don’t buy Deutsch’s explanation. He knew damned well what he was saying and he looks like an even bigger sack of dog excrement by trying to lie his way out of it.
CapitalistPig on February 23, 2010 at 10:11 PM
Well that settles it then.
Richard Romano on February 23, 2010 at 10:12 PM
I guess it’s a hispanic thing. It’s a slur, my man, I assure you. See my post immediately above.
CapitalistPig on February 23, 2010 at 10:12 PM
I had no clue it was a racial slur either. So I have to give the Douche the benefit of the doubt.
Rocks on February 23, 2010 at 10:13 PM
You were getting labeled at best a troll and at worse a Democrat, just trying to clear things up. You know what is funny about this Rubio/Crist thing? Rubio obviously did something during his tenure that irritated you or that you didn’t approve up and I assume you don’t believe he has seen the error of his ways. That is exactly how most of us feel about Gov. Crist except that the great talk came first, then the disappointing actions. Either way I will support the primary winner.
Cindy Munford on February 23, 2010 at 10:14 PM
I am not denying it, CP, I am just saying that it is not necessarily something that people are sensitive to like “spic” or “dago”
Squid Shark on February 23, 2010 at 10:15 PM
I don’t get why you’re campaigning for Crist if you don’t really support him.
BadgerHawk on February 23, 2010 at 10:16 PM
So will I, and I see this as a win win, whoever loses this one will be in a great position to take on Nelson in 2012.
My problem with Rubio is that he is pretending to be something that his record does not reflect, and his run is reminding me more and more of Obama’s. I have a much better feel for Crist and where he needs to be pressured and where he can be trusted.
Squid Shark on February 23, 2010 at 10:18 PM
By campaign trail I mean when Rubio and Crist both have come to various political clubs I am involved in.
Squid Shark on February 23, 2010 at 10:20 PM
“macaca”
malclave on February 23, 2010 at 10:22 PM
I used to be called this without understanding what it meant as I’d never heard the term before. I thought it was like that other popular slur that came at others like me, ‘monkeys living in trees’. When I found out what ‘coconut’ meant, I shrugged. No point in changing perfectly good habits of speech and behavior to appeal to the most ignorant lowest common denominator. That’s just a bit of the intra-race racism that’s a factor of life in America.
SilentWatcher on February 23, 2010 at 10:23 PM
Gotcha. Care to enlighten me on what Rubio’s campaigning on that doesn’t line up with his record? That’s an honest question – I don’t really follow him that closely.
BadgerHawk on February 23, 2010 at 10:24 PM
Did it bother you at all that Gov. Crist got married out of nowhere when he thought he was going to be the Vice Presidential nominee? But I am with you on the Nelson seat. Whatever misgivings I have about Crist are nothing compared to my disdain for Sen. Nelson.
Cindy Munford on February 23, 2010 at 10:25 PM
That’s o.k., Donny. I’m sure you won’t mind if I call you a Deutsch-bag.
WannabeAnglican on February 23, 2010 at 10:28 PM
Banana!
Dayum, now he’s taking out after the white-acting Asians!
DelD on February 23, 2010 at 10:30 PM
The big thing with me is ethics and fiscal responsibility. Rubio is a notorious pork hound he oversaw one of the most corrupted Houses in Florida since Reconstruction, I think more will be revealed with the release of the new House ethics report coming out, but his handpicked sucessor, Ray Sansom resigned ahead of the results. Sansom got in trouble for doign something Rubio himself did, take a high paying part-time job at an institution he funneled state money too.
Furthermore I take general issue with his failure during the budget crisis of 2007. He arguably had more power over the process than anyone and he spent nearly the entire special session arguing about whether we should ban “truck nutz”
Squid Shark on February 23, 2010 at 10:30 PM
It’s pretty obvious that he knew what he was saying, or he would have used a different phrase, or words. Now he’s trying to do damage control. How much more evidence does a liberal need, to see that the left are the true racists here.
So Clarence Thomas is considered monstrous, and embarrassing to his race, and Reverand Wright isn’t? Hmmmmmmm
capejasmine on February 23, 2010 at 10:32 PM
Interesting. This is illustrative of why I don’t care too much for politicians in general, even when their political views line up fairly well with my own. I value honesty and integrity a great deal (I actually like Feingold despite him being a hardcore lefty), so if what you say is accurate that kind of blows.
Is Crist squeaky clean when it comes to ethics? Most politicians aren’t, and if Rubio’s going to be better as a fiscal conservative than Crist I don’t find the argument that compelling either way. I’m pretty sure Crist will dish out his fair share of pork if voted into office as well, judging by his willingness to suck at the Stimulus Teat and to take federal dollars for just about anything, including a completely unnecessary train system.
BadgerHawk on February 23, 2010 at 10:37 PM
Not really, it is not like he got her off the internet, they had been dating for about as long as I had dated my wife before we got engaged.
Squid Shark on February 23, 2010 at 10:38 PM
test
Tony737 on February 23, 2010 at 10:42 PM
He has had two instances of actual note in that Arena. One is his support of former RPOF Chair Jim Greer, who is a scumbag.
The other is a questionable buy up of sugarcane land down south from a company that Crist has political ties to. I think this will be cleared ethically but it is not exactly clean looking.
But the issue with Rubio, is that he is a porker and has no real record of responsible fiscal conservatism. In fact, Crist has line itemed some of Rubios pork out of the budget over the years.
Squid Shark on February 23, 2010 at 10:43 PM
Reminds me of macaca…which I didn’t know what it meant until liberals told me.
neoavatara on February 23, 2010 at 10:45 PM
I live in San Antonio, and I have absolutely heard that term used as a slur, for years.
juliesa on February 23, 2010 at 10:45 PM
Good, obviously I was unaware because the marriage seemed to come out of nowhere. I need to keep up. As for Mr. Rubio’s ethics, the more conservative the press thinks he is, the more the press will go after him. They have until August to tear him apart. If they can’t, oh well.
Cindy Munford on February 23, 2010 at 10:48 PM
Who the heck is Donny Deutsch? I never heard of this douche bag.
david kumbera on February 23, 2010 at 10:48 PM
Well, he shot to Wednesday pretty darn fast. Let’s see how the rest of this plays out. (Although since he’s liberal, likely we’ll never hear about it again)
DrAllecon on February 23, 2010 at 10:50 PM
…and when W. O. Stone (William Oliver) finally films for posterity his one true masterpiece, Birth Of A Notion, Donny shall have his minor, but sine qua non, role. Wardrobe shall have him with his keffiyah across his face, his pointed Guatemalan woolen cap upon his noble head, he, and his brethren shall be those who render judgment upon those of… color. Yea, they, the knowing -they who feel- shall separate the Toms from the Jesses, the Jemimahs from the Michelles.
Because THEY are the useless whitebread pu**ies who some three decades past sacrificed their balls upon The Altar of Progressivism.
Doorgunner on February 23, 2010 at 10:54 PM
Don’t waste your time with that douche. He’s only trying to impress himself.
Jaibones on February 23, 2010 at 10:59 PM
Good work, you must feel very proud.
Squid Shark on February 23, 2010 at 11:03 PM
“You Lie!”
Branch Rickey on February 23, 2010 at 11:07 PM
And I’m saying douche in exactly the way you think I mean douche.
Branch Rickey on February 23, 2010 at 11:08 PM
Too many comment did not read them all: so I hope I am not being repetitious…
I am guessing Donnie doubled down and now claims Rubio is Asian.
HawaiiLwyr on February 23, 2010 at 11:38 PM
Either way Deutsch is a racist revealed. Hold him to his supposed standards and highlight it mercilessly when he violates his standards. (That’s standard Alinsky tactics. Turn their own techniques against them.)
{^_^}
herself on February 23, 2010 at 11:42 PM
Deutsch tried to destroy Ann Coulter with a bunch of phony outrage over a silly comment she made in an interview with him. He claimed she was anti-semitic. I hope he gets this comment shoved so far up his arse his eyeballs pop out. He’s a five-star POS.
Django on February 23, 2010 at 11:42 PM
That is silly. I do not see where it has been suggested that “coconut” is a racist word by itself and in all contexts. People have just pointed out that the term is used as a pejorative against Latinos who are not seen as Real Latinos. See, being a Real Latino is apparently more than about ethnicity and cultural heritage; it is about having the correct view of the progressive-liberal corporate state. A Latino simply cannot be a Real Latino and stand athwart it, instead of for it. We simply will not earn our brown bona fides by talking about liberty and limited government and whatnot. That is the stuff of “coconuts.”
I do not believe Donny Deutsch’s claim that he did not know that the term was a slur when he used it to describe Marco Rubio. Deutsch was pandering to those who measure ethnic and racial authenticity against political ideology.
Men like Donny Deutsch and women like Senator Ma’am and other affluent white liberals love, love, love minorities (especially as backgrounds for photo-ops!), only so long as we remember our place. As long as we carry their water to the polls – election after election, thus ensuring generations of a dependent underclass – rich white liberals are our greatest advocates. But as soon as we dare to question or oppose their statist schemes that deny our people real opportunity, real prosperity and a real voice, then there is no ethnic or racist slur that they will not hurl at us, while intimating that we have forgotten our place.
And according to Donny Deutsch, the U.S. Senate is no place for a conservative American of Cuban descent. Or as he would say, a “coconut.”
Threshing Flora on February 23, 2010 at 11:45 PM
I’m from flipping nowhere North Dakota and I know that coconut is a racial slur. I’ve never heard it used in the way that DD is trying to claim he used it. His comment makes it even more obvious that he’s full of crap. He would have never used the terms “simple, bananas or goofy” either. The term “coconut” was used very intentionally here without a doubt.
thevastlane on February 23, 2010 at 11:49 PM
I don’t have my copy of “A Practical Guide to Racism” handy, but I can honestly say I have never heard this term. I even checked the thesaurus at dictionary.com and it didn’t seem to return as being synonymous with “simple”.
His choice of words was almost as poor as his excuse.
Before people decide to flame me as being racist for actually owning this book, you should take a serious look at it. It takes an equal shot at white people, black people, hispanics, muslims, gypsies and even extends out to mermen.
Eprider on February 24, 2010 at 12:08 AM
I had to complete a sensitivity training seminar for a job a while back so I’m like an expert now.
I rule this to be non offensive.
You’re welcome everyone. I’m just glad I could be of assistance.
jhffmn on February 24, 2010 at 12:21 AM
Knowing coconuts as I do, I’d say it means “brown and hairy on the outside, but empty on the inside”. But then I’d be wrong, wouldn’t I?
unclesmrgol on February 24, 2010 at 12:30 AM
So sorry. I didn’t realize that douche-bag was a politically incorrect slur.
Fazzing douche-nozzle.
That’s all.
hillbillyjim on February 24, 2010 at 12:34 AM
You don’t say? I thought I was the only ND resident registered here…wonder how many others there are?
Cylor on February 24, 2010 at 12:37 AM
Oreos, bananas, and coconuts, we just may be on to a nice recipe here. No, really.
Mojave Mark on February 24, 2010 at 1:08 AM
Ahhh….macaca!
Caper29 on February 24, 2010 at 1:44 AM
CooCooKu Klux forCoco PuffsCoconutsThe Race Card on February 24, 2010 at 1:54 AM
Your statement edifies my own personal standard of speaking out against any such displays regardless of ethnicity, gender, religion, race and to some degree social-class.
Deutsch is dealing in the ugliest type of bigotry. Maybe people don’t remember, but he gave Ann Coulter absolute grief over her bomb-throwing.
Let’s stipulate that he didn’t mean to make a perfectly suited ethnic slur that actually happens to be an ethnic slur. Based on his abject liberalism and outspoken posturing on other similar episodes, Deutsch should take this opportunity to make his point clear. He should also prostrate himself to some degree on behalf of non-white conservatives and explore this insidious but common form of bigotry.
The Race Card on February 24, 2010 at 2:03 AM
“I didn’t know I was a bonehead,” says Deutsch.
John the Libertarian on February 24, 2010 at 2:15 AM
I’m sure it’s been said already, but I think it’s worth saying again –
What a Deutschbag.
rayra on February 24, 2010 at 3:01 AM
During the few moments I could bear to listen to this thing on CNBC, he turned me off.
Yes, he inherited his wealth. He also divorced his wife, got his girl friend pregnant, and then broke up with her. Typical rich liberal guy.
chris999 on February 24, 2010 at 3:29 AM
Liberals love to flaunt their control over political debate. Some really are racist, but often they’ll intentionally use racist/sexist language against conservatives just because they can.
Meanwhile, they can take any comment by a conservative and turn it into a scandal. How can they get away with this? Let me explain: Shut Up!!
Mr. Wednesday Night on February 24, 2010 at 5:00 AM
Joe Biden – “I have three words for Deutsch:
Lockstein13 on February 24, 2010 at 5:12 AM
Since folks are offering their own anecdotal evidence – coconut has been around since at least the 70′s, and in SoCal it was applied in high school to Mexicans who hung out with Anglos.
rhodeymark on February 24, 2010 at 5:49 AM
There’s such a thing as a racial slur database?
Oy. What a brave new world and all the creatures in it.
Not.
smellthecoffee on February 24, 2010 at 6:44 AM
As a rule, I don’t call people words I don’t understand(coconut, Macaca), obversely, I don’t become outraged over being called words I don’t understand(niggardly).
Thanks to Donny, we all now know what a Deutsch bag is.
Open The Door on February 24, 2010 at 6:45 AM
So, he thought he was saying “bananas?” Isn’t that a term for Asians who act white? /sarc.
smellthecoffee on February 24, 2010 at 6:46 AM
Yeah … sure.
Remember, make the left live by their own rules.
darwin on February 24, 2010 at 8:03 AM
Let’s just label everybody with food terms. Then, to determine the diversity of an organization, all you have to do is pull out the old food pyramid.
highhopes on February 24, 2010 at 8:14 AM
Look, I’m giving Deutch a pass here. I’m mid-40′s and I’ve *NEVER* heard it used as a racial epithet, and I’ve *USED* it personally to describe people who were being stupid, and I *KNOW* I didn’t use it with racial overtones and have used it against various people of various genders and ethnicities, lol.
As I said earlier, people making a brouhaha about this are off-base, and are a ‘lovely bunch of coconuts’ indeed.
Enough with the faux outrage – isn’t this one of the things we laugh at wacky liberals about?
Midas on February 24, 2010 at 8:24 AM
I know that it is fun to make the left live by their own rules, but when we do so, we reinforce those rules. The left is never going to be “punished” by the media for breaking those rules to the extent that the right is, and when we reinforce these rules (taking offense and making everything racial), we give the P.C. rules credence and it will give power to the next attack against a republican for some innocent comment – which the media will dutifully push.
Monkeytoe on February 24, 2010 at 8:30 AM
Macaca!
Yes I know I’m not the first.
Deal.
fossten on February 24, 2010 at 8:31 AM
As you, I am willing to give Mr. Deutsch a pass and trust that he really is uninformed. But I am not willing to label as “faux outrage” those who are offended, especially if the term has been directed towards them. This is just another thing that the Left gets a pass on.
Cindy Munford on February 24, 2010 at 8:36 AM
Anyone who defends Donny Deutsch is a POS. I mean that in a good way.
SurferDoc on February 24, 2010 at 8:38 AM
re: “update” Donny Deutsch is lying, he is a racist. Why does MSNBC continue to empoly racists like Keith Oblermann, Chris Wallace & now Donny Deutsch? The only conclusion I can draw is that MSNBC is a racist network.
I’ve heard Oreo (black on the outside, white inside) twinkie (yellow — Asian — on the outside, white inside) and apple (red — Native American — on the outside, white inside).
It is the Left that continues to use racist language and view people on the basis of race. And they do it to continue to divide the populace, making it easier to control them.
rbj on February 24, 2010 at 8:39 AM
Oh yeah, I use “coconut” all the time to decribe someone who’s silly or crazy.
“Oh that Obama, he’s just a silly coconut”.
darwin on February 24, 2010 at 8:42 AM
Really? When in your life have you ever heard anyone using the word “coconut” to describe someone silly or crazy?
I’ve heard nut, fruitcake, fruitloop, bananas … but never coconut.
“Man, when Bob heard the news he went absolutely coconuts!”
darwin on February 24, 2010 at 8:45 AM
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