Does Pelosi have the votes to pass Obama’s new bill? Politico: They don’t have the votes — yet
posted at 11:59 am on February 23, 2010 by Allahpundit
Ironically, for all of the left’s endless whining about the filibuster, it ain’t the Senate that’s their biggest problem anymore. A simple question for you from Philip Klein, who’s been counting heads in the lower chamber for weeks: Given that they’re starting with only 217 “yes” votes, who’ll be stupid enough among the no’s to flip in favor of what even David Brooks is calling a “fiscal time bomb”?
Of the 39 Democrats who voted against the House health care bill [in November], 31 of them were elected in districts that went for John McCain in 2008, according to a TAS analysis. One of the Democratic “no” votes, Rep. Parker Griffith of Alabama, has subsequently switched parties. Given that a Republican who campaigned on being a vote against the health care bill was just elected to fill the Senate seat once held by Ted Kennedy in a state that went for Obama by 26 points, it’s hard to see why anybody in a McCain district who already voted “no” would decide switch their vote to “yes.”
While Obama won the districts of the remaining eight “no” votes, in six cases, he won by only single digits, making them potentially competitive races this time around. And a closer look at several members who represent these areas are not very encouraging to proponents of Obamacare…
The biggest problem she faces is that President Obama’s proposal maintains the abortion provision in the Senate bill, rejecting Rep. Bart Stupak’s more restrictive language. When the bill passed the House the first time around, 41 Democrats voted for the health care bill only after voting for the Stupak amendment. Any of them could explain switching to a “no” vote on a final bill by citing abortion funding. Stupak himself has said there are at least 10 to 12 Democrats who voted for the bill the first time who would vote against it if it didn’t include his amendment (he reiterated Tuesday morning that the Senate abortion language adopted by Obama was still “unacceptable”). One of his co-sponsors, Rep. Brad Ellsworth, said at the time that he was only able to vote for the bill after the Stupak language was adopted, and he’s now running for Senate in Indiana, where a Rasmussen poll taken last month shows voters oppose the health care legislation by a 23-point margin.
Stupak called Obama’s abortion language “unacceptable” this morning. Assuming he’s not bluffing about those 10 to 12 pro-life Dems, Pelosi now needs roughly a dozen more yeses while not losing a single moderate or progressive, many of whom are doubtless irritated that The One didn’t use his own bill for an eleventh-hour push at the public option. One way Obama could have helped her was by introducing a stripped-down bill instead of the comprehensive leviathan he dropped yesterday — Blue Dog leader Heath Shuler wondered aloud this morning why he didn’t do precisely that — but the White House insists that, because the problems with health-care policy are interlocking, you can’t address one without addressing all of them. Which is awfully conscientious of them, but doesn’t quite jibe with the “we’ll pass anything we can pass to claim a political victory” vibe of the past, oh, six months. An alternative explanation from former Bush economist Keith Hennessey: They know they don’t have the votes and this is all just a blame-shifting exit strategy.
It is possible that we are witnessing uncoordinated Democratic leaders each pursuing their own exit strategy in anticipation of legislative failure:
* The President proposes a “compromise” and blames Republicans for being unreasonable and unconstructive. Legislative failure is the Republicans’ fault, not the President’s.
* Speaker Pelosi continues to press for a two bill strategy in which the House and Senate will pass a new reconciliation bill. If the Senate cannot or will not do so, legislative failure is the Senate’s fault, not the House’s or Speaker Pelosi’s.
* Supported by outside liberals, Leader Reid points out that the House could just take up and pass the Senate-passed bill. Legislative failure is therefore not his fault or the Senate’s.
He tried hard, dreamed big (although not big enough for progressives), and in the end the damned Republicans walked away from his elephantine bill. And the worst part, according to the White House, is that those darned teabaggers never even offered their own counterproposal. Except, er, for this one, which has been posted online since … 2009. Exit question: Does Pelosi have even 200 votes for this thing?
Update: Start twisting those arms, Nancy:
PLAYBOOK FACTS OF LIFE: Top aides tell us there are not currently 50 votes for the plan in the Senate, or 218 in the House. Moderate and endangered lawmakers want the spotlight off comprehensive health reform. Instead, it’s about to take center stage.









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I don’t see why. The Precedent’s scribblings have something just as strong as a Fannie Med – the total control of pricing, dictates of what services must be offered and control of executive wages (outside of the bill, but part of this administration’s drive). This is even better than a Fannie Med, since the federal government gets full control (strong enough to run any of the private insurance companies into the ground) without any of the hassles of actual “ownership”.
How much longer will this absolute joke of a Precedency go on?
neurosculptor on February 23, 2010 at 12:05 PM
We The People have awoken and spoken, and at least some democrats have listened. Too bad that the RNC leadership does not yet hear.
GaltBlvnAtty on February 23, 2010 at 12:06 PM
Unless there are several blue dogs that are willing to trade their house seat for some unnamed cabinet/czar positions, the answer is no.
Vashta.Nerada on February 23, 2010 at 12:06 PM
So all of Obama’s failures and shortcomings will be the fault of the GOP or teabaggers or an ignorant public or Bush. That’s gonna be one uplifting reelection campaign he runs in 2012.
Doughboy on February 23, 2010 at 12:07 PM
We need some analysis of what happens to the US if Obama demonstrably fails with 3 yrs. left in his Presidency. How will we be led? Any historical references?
JiangxiDad on February 23, 2010 at 12:08 PM
Let’s hope not.
Mr. Joe on February 23, 2010 at 12:08 PM
And yet, which way will you vote Heath Shuler??
NC, vote him OUT!
ladyingray on February 23, 2010 at 12:08 PM
Alternate headline: Does Frau Botox have the votes to Bankrupt the country with Zombiecare?
Insert witty screen name here on February 23, 2010 at 12:08 PM
I’m in a nightmare and I can’t wake up!
zenscreamer on February 23, 2010 at 12:09 PM
It would be nice to think that this is all political posturing but the fact of the matter is that the filthy lying coward in the White House needs to pass something. After all this time, all the warning about how dire the situation is, the tonsil vultures……. He can’t just walk away. Especially after announcing a pivot to jobs and then doing nothing but opening a White House meeting filled with Democrats and union thugs.
Obama needs something and Pelosi also can’t expect to stay speaker without passing something that can be called healthcare reform. The fact of the matter is that if Pelosi doesn’t even have the votes Thursday’s six-hour photo-op is meaningless.
highhopes on February 23, 2010 at 12:09 PM
Till we get off our butts and get some politicians in who will impeach this disaster. Wake up America.
katy the mean old lady on February 23, 2010 at 12:10 PM
So are they just pulling in the opposition tomorrow in order to extract a pound of flesh while they head for the exit?
ted c on February 23, 2010 at 12:11 PM
Not really, unless you count Buchanan.
Vashta.Nerada on February 23, 2010 at 12:11 PM
Maybe Pelosi needs to bring the Japanese Emperor over to America, to Congress, to inspire a real suicidal level of commitment from her Democrats. It worked for Japanese pilots in ’45. Might work again.
RBMN on February 23, 2010 at 12:13 PM
This whole thing seems to be political suicide for the far-left national socialist democrats.
What do they have up their sleeves to let them survive this type of naked power grab?
Chip on February 23, 2010 at 12:13 PM
I dunno about that AP, but, I’m sure she’s beatch slapping Harry Reid pretty regular though.
They did say that domestic violence increases during times of stress…..
ted c on February 23, 2010 at 12:14 PM
Obama Countdown…a new tradition for every President.
WashJeff on February 23, 2010 at 12:14 PM
Snort! What would I give to see Nan led off in cuffs?!
katy the mean old lady on February 23, 2010 at 12:16 PM
The US won’t last, intact, to the end of that countdown.
neurosculptor on February 23, 2010 at 12:16 PM
Well toned arms?
katy the mean old lady on February 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM
01/20/2013 End Of An Error
Chip on February 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM
Semi-OT: Danny Williams, Canadian Premiere:
Choice for me, but not for thy.
WashJeff on February 23, 2010 at 12:18 PM
He needs a major terrorist event here, with resulting significant country unity, to regain ground. Even then, he is still vulnerable to Holder’s bad decisions regarding national security. He has only until midterms to score any domestic agenda points and it doesn’t look like that will happen. Once Iran gets their nuke, he becomes an international laughing stock.
a capella on February 23, 2010 at 12:18 PM
The 111th Congress is 90% farce with a 10% sprinkling of reasoned individuals.
—John Adams
ted c on February 23, 2010 at 12:19 PM
Woodrow Wilson’s last two years and most of FDR’s last term that he survived (he was nearly bedridden during the 1944 election) may serve as examples of a bygone era when a charade in the absence of the president could still be provided.
We get to watch this lame duck in free fall while doing a full mussolini with a twist.
DanMan on February 23, 2010 at 12:19 PM
Nothing that justice cannot overcome.
ted c on February 23, 2010 at 12:20 PM
Well, well, well…
Guess we’ll see Thursday just what Rahm has on this and that Republican…
Doorgunner on February 23, 2010 at 12:20 PM
Aerial sports. Let’s see how far hope floats him.
ted c on February 23, 2010 at 12:21 PM
I wonder how many Democrats who voted yes the first time, are hoping that Nancy brings the bill up again, so that they can vote no.
MarkTheGreat on February 23, 2010 at 12:21 PM
November will be soooooooooooo SWEET!
GarandFan on February 23, 2010 at 12:21 PM
Pelosi can do anything she wants. She wouldn’t lose her seat unless she was driving drunk in San Francisco, and killed a black lesbian communist pedestrian who was on her way to an anti-war rally.
RBMN on February 23, 2010 at 12:22 PM
Unfortunately, I, and probably alot of others, see no way out except slogging along with head down hoping time passes quickly and we make it through the wilderness in one piece.
Not very uplifting is it?
txmomof6 on February 23, 2010 at 12:24 PM
Given the rate Obama is cratering, how much is 2 years, or less, in a cabinet position worth?
MarkTheGreat on February 23, 2010 at 12:25 PM
Ramirez cartoon, appropo…
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/PhotoPopup.aspx?id=521944
Midas on February 23, 2010 at 12:26 PM
Joe Sestak has already said he won’t vote again for any bill that doesn’t include a public option. He won’t let himself be the deciding No vote but he will vote No if a few others do. I think at least 3-4 other Dems from Pennsylvania who voted Yes on the first bill may vote No this time, as their election prospects are dimming by the day.
I wonder if Bill Delahunt would dare vote Yes after Scott Brown handily carried his district.
I think Pelosi may only have about 210 votes today.
rockmom on February 23, 2010 at 12:26 PM
Saaaaaay. Democrats? Question. Why not try implementing some Republican proposals first. Those that won’t completely overhaul the entire system. If they don’t work…then you can say….see? Our way is better, and everyone will benefit.
The answer? Because they know they’ll work. They don’t want the health care system improved, they just want control over it. Simple as that.
capejasmine on February 23, 2010 at 12:27 PM
It all depends on whether Democrats value loyalty to the President and party about their political careers. Hari Kari or a long life?
kingsjester on February 23, 2010 at 12:28 PM
I’d doubt it. She’s her father’s child. Tom D’allessandro was the biggest piece of crap in the state of Maryland.
katy the mean old lady on February 23, 2010 at 12:28 PM
LOL Ramirez is so great!
txmomof6 on February 23, 2010 at 12:28 PM
I can appreciate stubbornness in some cases but 0bowma’s stance on health care indicates a deeper pathology at work than simple stubbornness.
The dude is so spoiled and used to getting his way he is unable to comprehend the word NO!
Hey Obama, take you health care and stick it.
FireBlogger on February 23, 2010 at 12:28 PM
Liberals – doing their damndest to sign away the rights of others, however.
Midas on February 23, 2010 at 12:28 PM
I’m thinking the House Speaker and Sen. maj. leader, add the trsy and defense secs, central bank chief, chief justice, joint chiefs, and maybe we can hold on.
JiangxiDad on February 23, 2010 at 12:28 PM
That was good…
+2 thx.
ted c on February 23, 2010 at 12:29 PM
True, but if she loses the House, she is no longe Speaker, and she looooves the power, the office, the air force plane available for her at any time. Steny Hoyer might even push her aside for Minority Leader.
Then she is just another Rep, although with some seniority. This might be more humiliating, walking the halls of Congress to a standard-size office, and being smirked behind her back (or maybe to her face), than just being voted out of office.
Wethal on February 23, 2010 at 12:29 PM
A terrorist strike might rally the country, but after a year or more of overseas apology tours, bowing to foreign leaders (and even a few local ones), dissing the military, dismantling our intelligence agencies, etc.
I strongly suspect that a solid majority of the country would place full blame on Obama.
MarkTheGreat on February 23, 2010 at 12:31 PM
the drain plug is going to be pulled on this swamp folks. It’ll come upon us from out of nowhere. Keep your heads down, and nose to the grindstone. Collectively, with our shoulders to the bumper, we’ll get this country moving again–1 right decision at a time. We will oppose things and we will support things. We will fight to our last breath, and we will leave this country in a better position for our children–no matter the government.
Justice will be done—it always is. There is no being “above the law”….There is a higher law that these fools must reconcile with. It’ll come, you’ll see it, and you’ll smile. Hang in there.
ted c on February 23, 2010 at 12:36 PM
Exhibit A: Labrador Premier
Get it done quickly…with the best surgeons…you say?
NickelAndDime on February 23, 2010 at 12:36 PM
Just an FYI the link to Brook’s article works on this page but the one on the headlines takes you elsewhere.
scalleywag on February 23, 2010 at 12:37 PM
Good question. Given the odds, many in Congress would probably prefer to try to hold onto their seats and outlast the President.
Missy on February 23, 2010 at 12:37 PM
Hey, that’s not really fair, hitting the Far-left National Socialists with logic and all that.
Clearly they don’t have the brains for that kind of deep-thought.
Chip on February 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM
After the acquisition, I jokingly asked if they were going to make AP get up before noon… It’s true, isn’t it!?!
DaveS on February 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM
Let’s hope so. We had a high ratio of conspiracy-theorists to honest-questioners the last time, and they’ve pretty well ruined the discussion for everyone.
Dark-Star on February 23, 2010 at 12:38 PM
Can you explain that to me? I didn’t see the movie.
Elizabetty on February 23, 2010 at 12:41 PM
Dude, you broke my Cliche/Colloquialism Detector. ;)
Midas on February 23, 2010 at 12:41 PM
She doesn’t have the votes. Neither does dingy. They are all doing this kabuki to save face or something.
dogsoldier on February 23, 2010 at 12:42 PM
At last Obama’s incompetence multiplied by Pelosi’s ineptitude, benefit the American people.
Absolutely worthless, corrupt and incompetent Democrats.
NoDonkey on February 23, 2010 at 12:42 PM
Fact is, we’ve already had some terrorist attacks – despite the Obowma apology tour.
And they may rally around Barry for a short time after a major attack, but when it’s clear that he will do nothing meaningful to respond to the Muslim supremacists, his support will crater even further.
It’s at that point we will all have to watch out.
Chip on February 23, 2010 at 12:44 PM
Fatal Attraction (the movie) final scene is a fight between Michael Douglas and Glen Close who is a deranged stalker chick that MD had an affair with – she’s trying to kill him with a butcher knife, he drowns her in the bathtub.
You see her, drowned, dead, lying in the tub. MD breathes a sigh of relief, and relaxes – just as Close rises out of the water to try to kill him again (you just thought she was dead). MD’s wife (who walks up, with a gun) shoots her dead for good.
Standard Hollywood stuff – you think the antagonist is dead, but like most vampires/bad guys/etc, they’re not, and your engaging in a false sense of security.
This healthcare thing, as I personally (and others have said), won’t be dead until it’s dead, head cut off, stake in its heart, burned to ashes, and said ashes spread to the corners of the earth.
And even then, I wouldn’t be too sure…
Midas on February 23, 2010 at 12:45 PM
You mean like how those puppet strings got replaced by re-inforced piano wire?
Rovin on February 23, 2010 at 12:46 PM
All she has to do is bring up the Senate Bill for a vote … So it’s obvious she doesn’t.
tarpon on February 23, 2010 at 12:49 PM
I WANT to believe that this bill is on the road to nowhere and this is all bluster….BUT does anyone here really think that these clowns will not use every trick, legal or not, to slam this travesty through??? Keeping my hopes up and fingers crossed that someone will listen to the people for a change.
search4truth on February 23, 2010 at 12:49 PM
Problem is they keep on looping the same part about the Monster/Zombie/Killer/ etc. , Dying and then coming back to life.
Somebody please make it Stop!!!
Chip on February 23, 2010 at 12:51 PM
Not to mention, (but I will), there’s still a question of constitutionality—where Mz. Pelosi replied: “ARE YOU SERIOUS?”.
Rovin on February 23, 2010 at 12:52 PM
Ditto!
And that stopping alone would probably account for more economic growth than anything Obama/Reid/Pelosi could dream up.
txmomof6 on February 23, 2010 at 12:53 PM
highhopes
I’ve been saying this for 8+ months. The demoncRATS have so much invested in this, they will try to pass anything they can, the polls and the will of the American people be damned.
There was a lot of premature celebrating here thinking this was all over. This is the Washington DC version of “Night of the Living Dead”. They may be zombies but they will not stop. This ain’t over.
mountainmanbob on February 23, 2010 at 12:58 PM
I really hated impeachment talk or talk of Barry not finishing out his term because it reminds me of the extreme bds crap and “impeach” stickers.
Unlike bds however, the list of impeachment possibilities seem to grow by the week. What I think is the only thing that would do it is a 9/11 style attack because Barry’s ties to terrorism are there but unreported.
I absolutely do not want any terrorist attack to succeed, therefore this healthcare bill and the cap and tax and the immigration that follow have to be killed. If any of this passes it will be impossible to overturn.
ORconservative on February 23, 2010 at 1:02 PM
The exceptions to that solid majority being…a compliant press, SEIU, PP, and crr6,and Grow Fins
capejasmine on February 23, 2010 at 1:03 PM
I’m wondering if the use of TARP funds for activities that are illegal as specified by the TARP act don’t constitute grounds for some kind of consequence, if not impeachment.
There *has* to be a consequence (and not just ‘ooh, wait for the next election’) to these people *breaking the law*.
Midas on February 23, 2010 at 1:04 PM
Question is the longer they push this turd, the more people are going to get PO’d and the closer they will get to November.
How do they actually think that they will survive this?
What is going on behind the scenes that will save them from themselves.
Chip on February 23, 2010 at 1:11 PM
Midas,
You ought to know; the law doesn’t apply to DemoncRATS, liberals, progressives, glitterati, Hollyweirdos, leftists, the beautiful people, media hacks, Socialists and various and sundry anti-Americans.
mountainmanbob on February 23, 2010 at 1:12 PM
Rep Thaddeus McCotter on Hardball “Only 21% Of The American People Think They Are Being Governed By Their Own Consent”
My critique of the video, McCotter is ahead in class and intellect. Mccotter is calling for Free Market solutions to Health Care Coverage Matthews and Connelly are having none of it.
Rep Connelly of Prince William Co.,Va., tried to get one of his constituents arrested?
Dr Evil on February 23, 2010 at 1:12 PM
There is no such thing as a “moderate” dem. If Hussein and Co. want the votes, they’ll get them. The libs have already proven they have no spine and no concern for America. I shudder to think what would be going on in Congress right now if not for Massachusetts.
LibTired on February 23, 2010 at 1:12 PM
Why doesn’t the MSM report that there is bipartisanship in WDC?
Yeah against Obama and the donks plan but it is bipartisanship.
jukin on February 23, 2010 at 1:12 PM
We should be so fortunate!
Bruno Strozek on February 23, 2010 at 1:13 PM
It won’t work that way for the filthy lying coward in the White House. People don’t trust him on national security matters so they will not rally around him as part of whatever unity such an attack (God forbid) would engender.
GWB got support because he showed what a leader in a crisis does including going to ground zero at the WTC and making it clear that we would not rest until we got those that launched the 9/11/01 atrocities. In the same situation, is there any doubt that Obama would do a fly over followed by an immediate apology to those we made mad and a promise that America will be more understanding in the future. It would all be communicated from the White House because, of course, it’s hard to use a teleprompter when standing on a pile of rubble.
highhopes on February 23, 2010 at 1:15 PM
Quagmire! Waterloo! Yea!!
JimK on February 23, 2010 at 1:16 PM
Chip,
Some will not survive. They don’t care. They are on a Kamikaze mission to destroy America and its traditions. I’m sure the administration is promising those who will fall on their swords, cushy little jobs elsewhere in gubmint should they lose their seats.
mountainmanbob on February 23, 2010 at 1:17 PM
Midas on February 23, 2010 at 1:04 PM
I agree. I think there is alot that is not quite legal, if not illegal. The consequences will only come when both sides of the aisle care.
Right now it is like Clinton getting impeached for sex………….people didn’t care that the sex had nothing to do with it.
There will be no consequence for the one until there is something they can not ignore.
ORconservative on February 23, 2010 at 1:20 PM
You think it is bad now? Just imagine what the lame duck Congress will do if the Dems are on the cusp of losing all their power and status.
highhopes on February 23, 2010 at 1:24 PM
You know, there was a video of ObaMao saying that he ran for the presidency and left the Senate before his term was up because Congress is, (I quote) “too slow” in passing legislation that “is needed.” Whether we are talking about the House or the Senate, ObaMao sees the legislative process as “too complicated” to “get anything done.” Read the latter remark as one of implementing his agenda to “fundamentally transform America.”
I can’t find ObaMao’s remarks in my files because these dangerous clues were so abundant that researching the statement would be onerous.
ObaMoa would prefer to run (that is, rule) the nation by fiat. That is not the car. When he claims that Washington is “broken,” he means that its process is too slow to effect what he wants.
ObaMao ignores the fact that Congress was designed to be slow and deliberative in crafting bills that affect the nation. Most especially should this factor be operant when so much of the economy is involved. Congress is answerable to the people who elected its members. We have a separation of powers (another feature of the Constitution that bothers ObaMao) that prevents the type of power-grabbing that the boy-king is attempting.
Another tidbit to his aims is that he plans to invite Andy Stern to the Blue Ribbon Panel to address “fiscal responsibility.” Another one of the fox guarding the henhouse gambits in this ironic decision, eh?
onlineanalyst on February 23, 2010 at 1:29 PM
He has a challenger this year. In fact, most of the democrat weasels in NC’s House delegation have challengers. Finally.
SouthernGent on February 23, 2010 at 1:31 PM
You know, that kind of statement used to be considered off the wall, bonkers, etc.
There was a time where people would recommend that a person making such a statement should be confined to a rubber room somewhere so they couldn’t hurt themselves.
But given recent events and the steady “Progression” of the Obowmao clan, that is looking less and less like a crazy statement and more like a sober assessment of the nation’s current leadership.
It’s looking more and more like Obowmao and the rest of the Far-out leftist national socialist moonbats really want to do just that.
Nobody can be that stupid or insane, can they?
Chip on February 23, 2010 at 1:31 PM
highhopes,
You are correct. It is bad now but imagine how totally deranged they will become when it is obvious to them that they will lose their majorities. Having nothing to lose they will employ scorched earth tactics.
Our side cannot rest until they are removed from power.
May GOD give us strength and wisdom to fight them.
mountainmanbob on February 23, 2010 at 1:36 PM
If Barry, San Fran Nan and Dingy Harry go into the Blamegame Thunderdome together, my money is on the Botox Brawler.
Three men enter..one man leave!
DrW on February 23, 2010 at 1:37 PM
That’s a very interesting point. It’s certainly going to be a very different flavor than 2008. Let’s see…
Vote for Obama:
HopeChangeFirst Black PresidentUhhhh… what exactly does that leave?
LibTired on February 23, 2010 at 1:39 PM
Not enough votes? Hallelujah!
JKahn913 on February 23, 2010 at 1:58 PM
Yes! More partisanship, please!
It keeps them from working on anything ELSE… ahhh… the endless fights, fingerpointing, squeals of stuck pigs from Congresscritters choosing between political seppuku and a rock wall for their next election bid… lots more partisanship is necessary! Tons of it. Freeze up the Congress with it, permanently… we will all be better off.
ajacksonian on February 23, 2010 at 2:03 PM
To answer the title question, no.
I see prior “yes” votes jumping ship.
No one is going to fall on their swords for a leader like Pelosi.
molonlabe28 on February 23, 2010 at 2:05 PM
I supposed this is why Dorgan chose to not run.
And others.
They do not want to stick around for the chaotic aftermath that this will create.
Badger40 on February 23, 2010 at 2:07 PM
Flash back to 1994 and the passage of the ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN ” elected officials “who voted for this bill which was AGAINST the will of the people were thrown out of office in the upcoming elections . Most want to spin the democratic defeats as failure to pass HILLARY CARE .I think ALL of them know this is a hot potato!!
Murtha is gone and the Dems are short 1 Senator .This looks more like Smoke n Mirrors and they use the passed Senate bill and reconciliation or we start a new bill . Which one seems more likely . FYI I am paying $100.00 dollars for any Obama/ Biden bumper sticker you might have LOL
ELMO Q on February 23, 2010 at 2:12 PM
I just have a bad feeling about this one. I think this will allow the inept republicans to do what they do best, look inept. They had such a golden chance to win big on this issue, and were winning big, but they made the mistake of inviting Obama to a meeting, now they can’t refuse him. Yet, they have not requested a true bipartisan run meeting, where they run part of it or equally run it. I heard the minority leader speak and he simply does not articulate the republican arguments well enough.
immigrantchick on February 23, 2010 at 2:17 PM
imchick: Agreed. It was We The People who had Obamacare on the ropes. Then the Republican leadership got involved. Now we are at risk. While I’ll support the R candidates in November unless they are really bad, I hope to see some leadership at Thursday’s meeting.
GaltBlvnAtty on February 23, 2010 at 2:21 PM
NRO. The predominance of squishes is worrying.
Wethal on February 23, 2010 at 2:21 PM
Geraghty reminds us that retirees have nothing to fear from voters, unless they’re running for some other office. [Of course, it could also be their chance to tell Pelosi what they think of her, too.]
Wethal on February 23, 2010 at 2:23 PM
onlineanalyst on February 23, 2010 at 1:29 PM
Valerie Jarrett also says it on the video posted below. Her quote is something to the effect that Obama would have all these things as law already if he was not held back by Congress.
ORconservative on February 23, 2010 at 2:41 PM
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