Woman who assaulted a pro-life protester cancels abortion and thanks protester

posted at 8:47 am on February 22, 2010 by Cassy Fiano

Mechelle Hall has an incredible story that the mainstream media has completely ignored. She is a young woman who got pregnant and was going to have an abortion. On the way in, she had an altercation with some pro-life protesters:

Reached at her northern Wisconsin home Tuesday evening, Leah Winandy, 21, said she was protesting abortions on behalf of Pro Life Ministries of Duluth and handing out pamphlets on First Street outside the Building for Women when confronted by Hall.

“I was there to ask mothers not to kill their babies at the abortion clinic,” she said. “She [Hall] was walking toward me. She pulled out a knife and waved it at me saying ‘Don’t come near me.’ I said, ‘Please don’t kill your baby. Fear God.’ I came to the edge of the courtyard. I said, ‘Look and listen to your ultrasound.’ She turned around and came back with a knife and held it up to my throat.”

She was arrested and pleaded guilty to assault. But the story takes an unusual turn. Despite her assault against the pro-life protester, she didn’t get the abortion. Now, she’s thankful for Leah and Sarah Winandy’s intervention.

Mechelle Hall dabbed tears from her eyes Tuesday as she pleaded guilty to second-degree assault for brandishing a knife and threatening a woman who urged her not to get an abortion.

Yet, she revealed later, she never got it.

Hall, 26, of Superior, admitted her crime in a St. Louis County courtroom under questioning by county prosecutor Nathaniel Stumme. Public defender Laura Zimm told Judge David Johnson that, under terms of a plea agreement, Hall would receive probation and wouldn’t have to serve any jail time. It was a routine, perfunctory court hearing.

The surprise came when Hall was reached by phone at her Superior home Tuesday evening. She said she never had the planned abortion. Hall said she decided to keep the baby after being confronted by anti-abortion protesters Leah Winandy and her mother, Sarah, on Nov. 24. She said she was stressed out and they made her realize that she didn’t want to end the life she was carrying inside her.

Hall was asked if there was anything she’d like to say to the Winandys.

“Thank you for being there,” she said. “If they weren’t there, I probably would have gone through with it and regretted it for the rest of my life. It probably would have gone the other way. I’m sincerely sorry for doing that to her.”

Leah Winandy has forgiven Mechelle and agreed to her sentence of probation.

Winandy said she was contacted by the St. Louis County Attorney’s Office and asked if she would be agreeable to Hall receiving probation instead of a guideline prison sentence. She agreed.

“I forgive Mechelle for what she did; I do forgive her because God has given me forgiveness in my heart for her,” Winandy said.

All in all, I thought that it was a pretty incredible story. My heart just goes out to Mechelle. What she did in assaulting Leah Winandy was, of course, absolutely wrong. But imagine how she must have been feeling at the time: lost, confused, angry, scared, hurt. Someone tried to tell her she had another option and she lashed out. But Leah forgave her, which certainly defies the stereotype pro-choicers have created of abortion clinic protesters. They’d like you to think that pro-lifers are wild-eyed, crazy, Bible-thumping religious whack jobs. They don’t want people to see the peace and forgiveness that lives in the pro-life movement. They don’t want women contemplating abortion to realize that pro-lifers will be there for you with open arms. They want women considering abortion to think of pro-life activists as mean, crazy people so that the woman will be afraid to talk to them. What feminists and liberals don’t realize — or conveniently ignore — is that pro-lifers tend to be Christians who love God and simply want to protect life. They’ll be there for you if you decide to change your mind and they’ll be there to help you heal if you’ve had an abortion. They don’t judge you, and they don’t hate you.

But if you’re pro-abortion, you’ve always got to find a way to poke holes in the decision of a woman to choose life. And the feminists are already coming out of the woodwork to howl in anger about this story. Amanda Marcotte tweeted about it, calling Mechelle Hall crazy and unstable:

Convincing unstable, violent women to have children, one crazy incident at a time. Good work, antis!

I didn’t see Mechelle Hall as unstable and violent. I saw her as scared and angry. I saw her as someone who knew that Leah Winandy was speaking the truth but was afraid to listen. So many women who are facing abortion feel helpless and terrified. It doesn’t make them crazy. And Mechelle Hall had probably been filled with warnings about the crazy anti-abortion protesters who would yell and scream at her, who would try to stop her from having her abortion. When someone feels defensive, scared, and helpless, it’s not a surprise when they lash out.

And what is Amanda Marcotte’s point, anyway? That certain people shouldn’t be allowed to have children and should have mandated abortions if they get pregnant? Does that really sound like someone who is fighting for choice?

Salon also chimed in on this one, with a rather strange argument against this story. The writer, Tracy Clark-Flory, didn’t like how this story went. So she decides that it was just all made up. Seriously:

It’s a total anti-choicer’s wet dream. Much like Abby Johnson’s incredibly unreliable tale of converting from Planned Parenthood clinic director to antiabortion protester, this story plays to the anti-choice mythology that pro-choicers will convert if only they’re exposed to the reality of abortion. Activists believe themselves to be preaching the truth and many will take whatever means necessary to spread the word. This just serves as a dangerous message: Take things far enough, push women to their breaking point, and you’ll change their minds! This is already a favored tactic — the picket lines at besieged clinics can resemble a ghastly Halloween procession, what with the grim reaper costumes and gruesome images of aborted fetuses — and Hall’s about-face just offers further reinforcement.

After the Abby Johnson yarn, any “pro-life” conversion story should be met with a healthy dose of skepticism (and I’ve got plenty of extra doses, if anyone is lacking). I would love to pull at the pretty little bow that has been metaphorically placed on this case, but, unfortunately, Hall hasn’t returned my calls for comment.

Right. There’s definitely some kind of problem with this story, and it just must be a fake. Why would anyone change their mind about murdering their baby?

It’s interesting how angry pro-choicers get when someone actually exercises the right to choose that pro-choicers claim to be fighting for… and don’t choose what pro-choicers want them to choose. A woman decides to cancel her abortion, and feminists scream with outrage. It doesn’t really seem to me that giving women a choice is what they’re after. They want women to make their choice… which is to always choose an abortion.

Mechelle Hall made a terrible choice in assaulting Leah Winandy. But I don’t know that it makes her some kind of violent, unstable person. If she had a history of violent behavior, then clearly she wouldn’t be sentenced to just probation with no jail time served. I’m glad she chose to give her baby a chance at life, and hopefully, she’s been able to find peace.

Hat Tip: TheBlogProf.

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Hmmm. How does one drop a note to AP and Ed about site status? I’ve had three posts get eaten this morning. o.O

KinleyArdal on February 22, 2010 at 11:03 AM

KinleyArdal on February 22, 2010 at 11:03 AM

tips@hotair.com

OmahaConservative on February 22, 2010 at 11:05 AM

Thanks much!

KinleyArdal on February 22, 2010 at 11:06 AM

Convincing unstable, violent women to have children, one crazy incident at a time. Good work, antis!

That’s a breathtakingly dishonest way to cast Amanda’s position I think.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 10:55 AM

Heh. You should give it a shot then. Tell us what other ideas you have besides breeding licenses.

chunderroad on February 22, 2010 at 11:09 AM

This is like the white trash Jesus besotted hick mecca of the internet these days.
happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 10:27 AM

Who in the Wide, Wide World of Sports do you think you are? You pathetic little wannabe intellectual. What do you think is growing inside a woman’s womb? A puppy?

kingsjester on February 22, 2010 at 11:09 AM

Hey, you know what? Maybe she’ll have another 2 or 5 or 10 kids and then you conservatives can hold her up as what’s wrong with society! Great job, guys.

Jaynie59 on February 22, 2010 at 9:17 AM

…and ya know what Jaynie? What would really be a beach would be if 2, 5, or all 10 kids contributed something meaningful to society.
I would just hate it if she had a baby that grew up to cure cancer er sumpin. God forbid!

Chewy the Lab on February 22, 2010 at 11:10 AM

I think Amanda thinks women have the right to have an abortion without walking a gauntlet of shrieking wingnut pro-life hillbillies.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 10:59 AM

Really? You don’t see the irony of this statement based on your 10:55 post?

cjtony97 on February 22, 2010 at 11:10 AM

I think Amanda thinks women have the right to have an abortion without walking a gauntlet of shrieking wingnut pro-life hillbillies.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 10:59 AM

The First Amendment disagrees with you and Amanda Marcotte, but freedom is only for some people, like baby killers.

chunderroad on February 22, 2010 at 11:11 AM

Mechelle Hall made a terrible choice in assaulting Leah Winandy. But I don’t know that it makes her some kind of violent, unstable person. If she had a history of violent behavior, then clearly she wouldn’t be sentenced to just probation with no jail time served.

Cassy it looks like this woman did have a history of violence.

I found proof of her violent tendencies on the Internet.

Just like no one got hurt in 2006, when, records say, Hall pulled some kind of weapon on some kind of other person. That led to a disorderly conduct rap.

So apparently this woman has some issues.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 11:12 AM

Looks like it’s you guys what want to force a little baby into the household of a violent unstable criminal.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 11:13 AM

and now I have Fleetwood Mac stuck in my head. Thanks, lifey dude.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 11:14 AM

Gang-of-One on February 22, 2010 at 10:35 AM

…or if she had harmed the pro-life activist in any way.

cjtony97 on February 22, 2010 at 10:43 AM

No doubt! That would have been an obvious case of self-defense. Needless to say, the happyfeet lawyers would then come out of the woodwork to defend her from the “white trash Jesus besotted hicks” of the pro-life movement.

Gang-of-One on February 22, 2010 at 11:15 AM

and now I have Fleetwood Mac stuck in my head. Thanks, lifey dude.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 11:14 AM

Maybe Landslide will inspire a bowel movement, and you can finally dislodge your head. That’s where you’re really stuck.

chunderroad on February 22, 2010 at 11:17 AM

So apparently this woman has some issues.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 11:12 AM

Take it up with the parole board. Call CPS. Write a note to the kid’s teacher when they start school. Put up a blog about the whole thing like you psychos do with the Palin family.

chunderroad on February 22, 2010 at 11:19 AM

kingsjester I am not an intellectual jeez…

and also cjtony97 I think pro-life wackos have the right to be as obnoxious as they want, but pro-life protesters what are so puffed up with entitlement that they operate outside the boundaries of common decency and politeness is hurtful to the cause of pro-life I think and at the very least lifey nutjobs should take care not to get their wingnuttery all over Team R.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 11:20 AM

kingsjester I am not an intellectual jeez…

Well, that’s evident from your posts.

kingsjester on February 22, 2010 at 11:21 AM

Looks like it’s you guys what want to force a little baby into the household of a violent unstable criminal.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 11:13 AM

And your counterproposal is to mercifully grant them the peace of the grave to avoid the hardships they would otherwise experience. How nice. How modern.

KinleyArdal on February 22, 2010 at 11:21 AM

*are* hurtful I mean…

I have to go to work so my Hot Air friends I will see you later. I’m sorry I got a little… abrasive. I was in a bad mood this morning.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 11:22 AM

Babies can be thankful for being saved, even from within the womb…
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3612984&l=7ee006866e&id=676992053

lovingmyUSA on February 22, 2010 at 11:23 AM

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 11:20 AM

This white trash Jesus-besotted hick thinks you’re foaming at the mouth like a rabid ole’ coon dog.

Chewy the Lab on February 22, 2010 at 11:24 AM

and also cjtony97 I think pro-life wackos have the right to be as obnoxious as they want, but pro-life protesters what are so puffed up with entitlement that they operate outside the boundaries of common decency and politeness is hurtful to the cause of pro-life I think and at the very least lifey nutjobs should take care not to get their wingnuttery all over Team R.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 11:20 AM

Oh, LORD HAVE MERCY, not another one of you kooks.

Telling the opposition what is, and is not helpful/detrimental to their cause is basically conceding “hey, this is damaging to our cause, back off, wingnuts”.

Spare us the helpful hints, I’m begging you. I simply can’t control the sarcasm anymore.

KinleyArdal on February 22, 2010 at 11:24 AM

…my Hot Air friends?
happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 11:22 AM

Double your medication…quickly.

kingsjester on February 22, 2010 at 11:24 AM

yes Chewy I was a little foamy ok bye I will see you laters

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 11:26 AM

Babies can be thankful for being saved, even from within the womb…
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3612984&l=7ee006866e&id=676992053

lovingmyUSA on February 22, 2010 at 11:23 AM

Liberals see that, and see a mistake, and a burden, and a violation of their sexual freedom, but the one thing they do not see is a helpless being grasping for warmth and comfort.

Lord, it fills the heart with fury to think of what they do to these children daily…

KinleyArdal on February 22, 2010 at 11:27 AM

I pity that poor kid. If simply walking by a couple of protesters was enough for her to brandish a knife at someone, that kid is in for a great childhood.

Jaynie59 on February 22, 2010 at 9:17 AM

You had no pity for “that poor kid” when it was marked for death. You have no pity now. It’s just rhetoric.

I find your claim of pity to be both absurd and insulting.

tom on February 22, 2010 at 11:27 AM

You’ve never heard of redemption? A life-changing moment? Redeeming Grace? Aborting that baby on the possibiility of later violence is not a very logical or ethical solution.

kingsjester on February 22, 2010 at 9:25 AM

I think this young lady found redemption when she made the life-altering, wait, make that the 2-lives altering decision. She’ll make it good.

Gang-of-One on February 22, 2010 at 11:33 AM

And what is Amanda Marcotte’s point, anyway? That certain people shouldn’t be allowed to have children and should have mandated abortions if they get pregnant? Does that really sound like someone who is fighting for choice?

It sounds like an elitist Nanny Stater who thinks they are smarter than every one else.

chemman on February 22, 2010 at 11:36 AM

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 11:20 AM

Did you superglue your feet in your mouth because you appear to have a case of terminal foot-in-mouth disease.

chemman on February 22, 2010 at 11:38 AM

Look. Standing outside a clinic shrieking at women is a low-class thing to do. Simple as that. It’s a trash and obnoxious activity. It’s betrays a lack of socialization and self-respect.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 11:43 AM

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 11:43 AM

As usual, you threaten to leave a thread and then stick around.

OmahaConservative on February 22, 2010 at 11:44 AM

*trashy* I mean.. sorry in a hurry I am out the door

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 11:45 AM

Looks like it’s you guys what want to force a little baby into the household of a violent unstable criminal.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 11:13 AM

More fake empathy from someone who would be perfectly happy to see the baby dead and dismembered.

tom on February 22, 2010 at 11:45 AM

happyfeet, is that a human life growing in the woman’s womb? I’m curious to know what you think it is.

kingsjester on February 22, 2010 at 11:47 AM

Look. Standing outside a clinic shrieking at women is a low-class thing to do. Simple as that. It’s a trash and obnoxious activity. It’s betrays a lack of socialization and self-respect.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 11:43 AM

Okay, you win, I’m mad.

Where the frak do you get off complaining about low-class treatment of women? REREAD YOUR POSTS, IDJIT.

KinleyArdal on February 22, 2010 at 11:48 AM

walking a gauntlet of shrieking wingnut pro-life hillbillies

Happyfeet, obviously you’ve never actually seen pro-life sidewalk counselors. No one is shrieking, and all are very educated. My friend, a social worker, holds a sign that says “I’m a social worker, please let me know if I can help you.”

Oh God, the horror!

Vera on February 22, 2010 at 11:48 AM

Amanda Marcotte = Margaret Sanger

mossberg500 on February 22, 2010 at 11:49 AM

Look. Standing outside a clinic shrieking at women is a low-class thing to do. Simple as that. It’s a trash and obnoxious activity. It’s betrays a lack of socialization and self-respect.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 11:43 AM

But destroying human life before it can be born is the epitome of civilization and enlightenment?

But I’m not going to let you get by with characterizing protesters as “shrieking at women.” If this woman had been shrieked at, she would never have changed her mind. It was the soft answer and the plea that probably got her to listen in the first place.

tom on February 22, 2010 at 11:50 AM

Oh, and just so you know, countless women every year change their minds about having an abortion because of the presence of sidewalk counselors. They’re all thankful that someone was there to offer them options other than killing thier children.

Oh, and it’s not like we just abandon women after they leave the clinic. We actually help them with whatever needs they have to continue their pregnancies.

I know, I know, that doesn’t fit your cartoon idea of what pro-lifers look like…

Vera on February 22, 2010 at 11:51 AM

“And what is Amanda Marcotte’s point, anyway? That certain people shouldn’t be allowed to have children and should have mandated abortions if they get pregnant?”——-That is exactly what her point is. Certain types–the uneducated, minorities, and other undesirables–shouldn’t even be allowed to have children. Margaret Sanger smiles (up) on Amanda Marcotte.

WarEagle01 on February 22, 2010 at 11:54 AM

State could reshape abortion policy

LINCOLN — Nebraska could reshape national abortion policy if lawmakers embrace a proposal to ban almost all abortions after a fetus reaches 20 weeks.

The state has played a role on the national stage before, with a 1997 law banning the controversial late-term procedure known medically as intact dilation and extraction, or D&X.

The U.S. Supreme Court in 2000 overturned that Nebraska law, upholding its previous abortion decisions and dealing a setback to abortion opponents, who call the procedure “partial-birth” abortion.
[snip]

OmahaConservative on February 22, 2010 at 11:54 AM

Happyfeet, obviously you’ve never actually seen pro-life sidewalk counselors. No one is shrieking, and all are very educated. My friend, a social worker, holds a sign that says “I’m a social worker, please let me know if I can help you.”

Oh God, the horror!

Vera on February 22, 2010 at 11:48 AM

I pray for the Lord’s fullest blessings upon your friend. =) The mental image of an anxious lady holding up that sign is pure joy to me.

KinleyArdal on February 22, 2010 at 11:54 AM

Look. Standing outside a clinic shrieking at women is a low-class thing to do. Simple as that. It’s a trash and obnoxious activity. It’s betrays a lack of socialization and self-respect.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 11:43 AM

Yes – pulling babies apart at the limbs and cracking their heads open like walnuts to suck out their brains is the height of civility. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

quiz1 on February 22, 2010 at 11:57 AM

I hate to bring this up, but is it possible that Ms. Hall expressed regret about the assault and had a change of heart about the abortion in the hope that Ms. Winandy would agree to reducing the punishment from jail time to probation?

sax-maniac on February 22, 2010 at 12:06 PM

sax-maniac on February 22, 2010 at 12:06 PM

While that sounds possible, experience tells me that it would be a very strange person indeed counting upon the mercy of someone they’d held a knife to in this era.

Exit answer: I dunno.

KinleyArdal on February 22, 2010 at 12:08 PM

Look. Standing outside a clinic shrieking at women is a low-class thing to do. Simple as that. It’s a trash and obnoxious activity. It’s betrays a lack of socialization and self-respect.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 11:43 AM

How about washing the feet of lepers?

Chris_Balsz on February 22, 2010 at 12:19 PM

Sometimes all a person needs to make a correct decision is all the information. This is why PP fights giving out information about alternatives so vehemently.

This is also why the Dems want to control the Internet.

- The Cat

MirCat on February 22, 2010 at 12:20 PM

happyfeet is an example of one of the many things wrong with the liberal cause.

Shouting at someone not to do something at they will regret = low-class

Letting someone drive off that cliff = moral high ground

- The Cat

MirCat on February 22, 2010 at 12:23 PM

I walked in SEP for the “40 days for Life” thing. We walked and prayed in front of Planned Parenthood. I am glad that those prayers are getting answered. There was a PP administrator (?) in TX (?) that quit and condemned the practice of abortion as a result of this. Now, there’s this girl—-

Prayers. Answered.

ted c on February 22, 2010 at 12:27 PM

Convincing unstable, violent women to have children, one crazy incident at a time. Good work

As opposed to those currently (but not for long) running the country? Hell, we give them TV shows,., Mathews, Gooberman, Rosie, Gawd-awful-ho,Matt Damon Jay-Z,.those people will never even have a light,
Mechelle Hall has come to see the light..totally awesome!

christene on February 22, 2010 at 12:31 PM

The reason educated people have fled Team R isn\’t because of tax policy… it\’s cause of creepy wingnut Christians what have brought both Christianity and conservative politics into an unprecedented disrepute in America I think.Christianity used to be widely held in respect in our little country and that\’s no longer true. And it\’s a lot cause of creepy Lila Rose Timmah Tebow type simpletons I think.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 12:40 PM

that formatted wrong…

do-over…

The reason educated people have fled Team R isn’t because of tax policy… it’s cause of creepy wingnut Christians what have brought both Christianity and conservative politics into an unprecedented disrepute in America I think.

Christianity used to be widely held in respect in our little country and that’s no longer true. And it’s a lot cause of creepy Lila Rose Timmah Tebow type simpletons I think.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 12:41 PM

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 12:41 PM

I and my friends, we all have advanced graduate degrees, all fled Team D because we got sick of their lies and the fact that they do more harm to the people they profess to be helping.

Blake on February 22, 2010 at 12:44 PM

Look. Standing outside a clinic shrieking at women is a low-class thing to do. Simple as that. It’s a trash and obnoxious activity. It’s betrays a lack of socialization and self-respect.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 11:43 AM

It’s impolite to try to get people to not kill other people.

Gotcha. I’ll make a note of it.

What you’ve euphemistically dubbed a “fetus” is a full human being with all the rights and protections afforded to one. Take every ridiculous pose you want. Marshall every brain-dead, run-on sentence ridden stream of consciousness insult you’ve got.

It won’t change the fact that you’re supporting killing people for money because the women don’t want to deal with the consequences of not being responsible about birth control.

Somebody has to die because you can’t be bothered to get a prescription and take a pill, or heavens forfend, keep your legs closed. Yeah, some movement you’ve got there champ. If team R is cool with killing people for that reason, screw team R.

I want no part of a team with people like that on it.

TheUnrepentantGeek on February 22, 2010 at 12:44 PM

Christianity used to be widely held in respect in our little country and that’s no longer true. And it’s a lot cause of creepy Lila Rose Timmah Tebow type simpletons I think.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 12:41 PM

Data or GTFO with that garbage, failbot.

TheUnrepentantGeek on February 22, 2010 at 12:48 PM

Why do you think educated people have fled Team R, Geek person? I know the ones I talk to deplore the Christian right. Utterly despise it.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 12:50 PM

Why do you think educated people have fled Team R, Geek person? I know the ones I talk to deplore the Christian right. Utterly despise it.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 12:50 PM

Most educated people I know understand that it’s kinda stupid to make assertions without evidence.

PS. The plural of anecdote is not data.

PPS. If killing people would make team R popular, and you’re coll with that bargain, you’re a dirtbag. Plain and simple.

TheUnrepentantGeek on February 22, 2010 at 12:53 PM

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 12:50 PM

Some educated people changed party affiliation to Democrat. Some educated people changed party affiliation to Republican.

For you to imply otherwise is proof that you are not very educated.

Blake on February 22, 2010 at 12:55 PM

Why do you think educated people have fled Team R, Geek person? I know the ones I talk to deplore the Christian right. Utterly despise it.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 12:50 PM

Personal Responsibility is hard.

kingsjester on February 22, 2010 at 12:56 PM

Look. Standing outside a clinic shrieking at women is a low-class thing to do. Simple as that. It’s a trash and obnoxious activity. It’s betrays a lack of socialization and self-respect.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 11:43 AM

But stabbing your economically inconvenient child in the nape of its neck as it exits the birth canal is so civilized.

chunderroad on February 22, 2010 at 1:02 PM

No, Blake… educated people voted for the transparently phony dirty socialist loser in droves. This is partly why pro-lifer John McCain is not the president and partly why Team R is going to have a ridiculously difficult time nominating a candidate what can win in 2012.

Palin Huckabee Romney? As if.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 1:05 PM

Why do you think educated people have fled Team R, Geek person? I know the ones I talk to deplore the Christian right. Utterly despise it.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 12:50 PM

I call BS. Evil Penguin doesn’t have any friends, let alone smart ones. He also said he was leaving.

*trashy* I mean.. sorry in a hurry I am out the door

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 11:45 AM

chunderroad on February 22, 2010 at 1:05 PM

I don’t live all that far from work chunder person.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 1:08 PM

Amanda Marcotte is a horrible woman.

Knuterockne on February 22, 2010 at 1:08 PM

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 1:05 PM

Obama supported letting infants who would be in neo-natal units had their mother not been intent on aborting them die struggling for breath in a dirty linen closet. Do you think the reason he won is because a majority of Americans support that? The assumption is as ridiculous as saying John McCain lost, because he believes life begins at conception. For the record, I think Obama’s position of BAIPA would disgust an enlightened, moral and compassionate electorate.

chunderroad on February 22, 2010 at 1:10 PM

I don’t live all that far from work chunder person.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 1:08 PM

Do they pay you to scream at people online and act trashy?

chunderroad on February 22, 2010 at 1:11 PM

And it\’s a lot cause of creepy Lila Rose Timmah Tebow type simpletons I think.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 12:40 PM

Only in the deranged mind of a bloodlusting freak like yourself could Lila Rose be thought of as ‘creepy’.

KinleyArdal on February 22, 2010 at 1:16 PM

Christianity used to be widely held in respect in our little country and that’s no longer true.

Again, spare us the torment of your helpful hints. If Christianity is no longer “widely respected” because of adhering to God’s value of human life, then the “respect” you speak of is worth far less than dirt.

I’ve got news for you, happyfeet, because you seem to be pretty ignorant about Christianity. It has never been popular to begin with – and, when the world is all set to fall apart at what we call “the apocalypse”, it won’t be very popular then, either.

If you’re not a Christian, I invite you to read the book, and if you have questions, I’m happy to answer ‘em. If you are, or profess to be, Christian, then you are woefully ignorant of your own faith, which applies to a lot of pro-abortion posters I know around here…

TL;DR: The respect of morally bankrupt individuals and societies is worth nothing, and it is of no concern.

KinleyArdal on February 22, 2010 at 1:22 PM

I said Christianity in America, Kinley. I love Christianity. I hate the fascist Christian Lila Rose type wingnuts that defile a beautiful religion and make of it demented preachy silly code of superstitious puerility.

I actually respect the majority pro-lifers. Dan and Carin and Mr. P and BJ and Vera seems like a wonderful lady even if she’s sort of wingnutty. It’s the screechy simpleton ones like Lila and Timma Tebow and other Focus on the Family type social rejects what galvanize the opposition and alienate people I think.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 1:28 PM

majority *of* pro-lifers I mean…

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 1:29 PM

Mr. Geek you never said why you think educated people have bailed on Team R at an unbelievable rate.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 1:29 PM

I said Christianity in America, Kinley. I love Christianity. I hate the fascist Christian Lila Rose type wingnuts that defile a beautiful religion and make of it demented preachy silly code of superstitious puerility.

A beautiful religion? Simpletons? Preachy silly code of …. to quote AP, dude.

Man, I don’t even care anymore…. can someone ban this guy?

Fascist? Lila Rose? Screeching? Get out, man, you’re either drunk or just plain stupid, and…

DUDE.

KinleyArdal on February 22, 2010 at 1:30 PM

Christianity used to be widely held in respect in our little country and that’s no longer true.

The number of Christians in America now sits at 76% of the population. Down 12 % but still an overwhelming majority. The number of those espousing a belief in God sits at 82%.

kingsjester on February 22, 2010 at 1:32 PM

DUDE.

KinleyArdal on February 22, 2010 at 1:32 PM

Why didn’t you just hyperlink the whole damn thing.

Sheesh.

iamse7en on February 22, 2010 at 1:33 PM

Happy Feet –

The reality is more people believe abortion is wrong now than they did a few years ago.

The reason MCCAIN lost was due to the fact that he was not conservative enough and your weed is going bad if you think that his pro-life stance really had anything to do with.

You really should have your sickness checked. You’re ill both mentally and spiritually. You are an ugly ugly person as your posts prove.

CWforFreedom on February 22, 2010 at 1:40 PM

It’s a simple matter. A child is now alive who would have been dead.

Supporters of the abortion industry can trumpet the many reasons why this mother should have aborted her child, and heap condemnation on those who sought to save this tiny child. Let them. Forgive them.

This child is alive. That is a great victory. Rejoice!

Pavel on February 22, 2010 at 1:40 PM

Happy Feet …you are also VILE.

CWforFreedom on February 22, 2010 at 1:41 PM

Young people are fleeing faith. Nearly a quarter of Americans in their 20’s profess no organized religion.

I think that’s the takeaway from your study Mr. kingjester.

But this blog post is an attempt to justify the sick behavior of those creepy pro-life perverts what lurk in abortion clinic parking lots. If they want to be pro-life the first thing they should do is get one I think.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 1:42 PM

Why do you think educated people have fled Team R, Geek person? I know the ones I talk to deplore the Christian right. Utterly despise it.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 12:50 PM

Whether you believe it or not, I am an educated person, and have not fled. I understand the science — whose chromsomes are hidden where, so to speak.

Your educated but morally deficient fellow-travelers are welcome to dispise, and even do so utterly — as if a person’s utters mean anything.

unclesmrgol on February 22, 2010 at 1:44 PM

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 1:05 PM

In no way did your post respond to what I said. Again, you reveal yourself to be uneducated.

Blake on February 22, 2010 at 1:45 PM

I agree about the utters.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 1:45 PM

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 1:42 PM

Well, as someone who loves Christianity, you ought to know that in the last days, there will be this huge lukewarm contingent of the faith, and that more and more people will be, in a nutshell, “godless”.

The words of filth like you stand on their heads. In your language, conversation means concession, and the rest of us are just a few clicks above you in wisdom, and are unwilling to fall for it.

Same thing I told Jimbo – come Judgment Day, you are going to be shocked, shocked to find that abortion is murder, and that there is a penalty for it.

KinleyArdal on February 22, 2010 at 1:47 PM

But this blog post is an attempt to justify the sick behavior of those creepy pro-life perverts what lurk in abortion clinic parking lots. If they want to be pro-life the first thing they should do is get one I think.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 1:42 PM

One wonders what Happy thought of the Underground Railroad. One wonders what he thought of my neighbor out here downtown protesting the war in Iraq every Friday night.

By the way, the pro-Lifers don’t lurk in the parking lots — that would be trespassing. They stand on the public ways — where First Amendment rights are allowed expression.

You may not like it, Happy, but there it is.

unclesmrgol on February 22, 2010 at 1:49 PM

no seriously though you life hicks make Team R about as attractive as a fat girl with psoriasis

For many people it isn’t ‘Team R’. You may think that it is little more than a polite football match, but some believe it actually matters. Red and blue jerseys are all you and David Brooks see, others see it differently.

Look. Standing outside a clinic shrieking at women is a low-class thing to do. Simple as that. It’s a trash and obnoxious activity. It’s betrays a lack of socialization and self-respect.

And gosh we wouldn’t want to be impolite or embarrassing would we?

People like you are easily controlled by the MSM and the Democrats because you want to be held in esteem entirely too much. The Kathleen Parkers, John McCains, and David Frums of the world who will always knife conservatives in the back for a smile from the gatekeepers.

Why do you think educated people have fled Team R, Geek person? I know the ones I talk to deplore the Christian right. Utterly despise it.

happyfeet

Because they are corrupted and self-indulgent. They operate on the basis of ‘you respect my vice and I will respect yours’. They are terrified of being held to any external standard. They also want to be a part of the so-called moderate center regardless of what part they have to play.

They may have occassion to protest some act of the leftists but it will always be in a muted and hesitant voice.

BTW, I am NOT a Christian.

sharrukin on February 22, 2010 at 1:49 PM

I agree about the utters.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 1:45 PM

Then why are you and your educated friends utterly?

unclesmrgol on February 22, 2010 at 1:50 PM

I said Christianity in America, Kinley. I love Christianity. I hate the fascist Christian Lila Rose type wingnuts that defile a beautiful religion and make of it demented preachy silly code of superstitious puerility.

I actually respect the majority pro-lifers. Dan and Carin and Mr. P and BJ and Vera seems like a wonderful lady even if she’s sort of wingnutty. It’s the screechy simpleton ones like Lila and Timma Tebow and other Focus on the Family type social rejects what galvanize the opposition and alienate people I think.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 1:28 PM

Your Jesus is in your own image.

unclesmrgol on February 22, 2010 at 1:52 PM

Happyfeet —you speak of educated people. As you are obviously not of their nature do they really talk to you ? I think you just imagine this stuff.

CWforFreedom on February 22, 2010 at 1:52 PM

Imagine that Christians that are willing to put themselves in harm’s way to save a life.

CWforFreedom on February 22, 2010 at 1:53 PM

Happyfeet has no answer for the assertion that tearing human beings apart limb by limb and throwing them in the garbage is the height of a civilized society so responds by ad hominem attacks.

TYPICAL

I pray that you stick around – there’s always hope for you.

quiz1 on February 22, 2010 at 1:53 PM

Your Jesus is in your own image.

unclesmrgol on February 22, 2010 at 1:52 PM

I think it’s because Obama = Jesus of the Left, and Obama = blank slate which people project what they want onto, so by that logic, Jesus = blank slate which people project what they want onto.

….I think I felt something in my brain twitch in trying to reason like a Leftist. Ow…. Excedrin please….

KinleyArdal on February 22, 2010 at 1:53 PM

quiz1 on February 22, 2010 at 1:53 PM

On target.

CWforFreedom on February 22, 2010 at 1:54 PM

Obama’s a big socialist stupidhead I think.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 2:02 PM

They are not pro-choice. They are completely pro-abortion.

Kasper Hauser on February 22, 2010 at 2:03 PM

“I was there to ask mothers not to kill their babies at the abortion clinic,” she said. “She [Hall] was walking toward me. She pulled out a knife and waved it at me saying ‘Don’t come near me.’ I said, ‘Please don’t kill your baby. Fear God.’ I came to the edge of the courtyard. I said, ‘Look and listen to your ultrasound.’ She turned around and came back with a knife and held it up to my throat.”

Oh. Yes. Look at that awful screeching pro-lifer. /sarc

Seriously. Apparently someone has never 1)seen an actual pro-life protest and 2)paid attention to actual screechers like Code Pink.

lonesome_pine on February 22, 2010 at 2:05 PM

But this blog post is an attempt to justify the sick behavior of those creepy pro-life perverts what lurk in abortion clinic parking lots.

Pro-lifers lurking in a parking lot causes you much angst, yet the killing of the unborn causes you no angst?

If they want to be pro-life the first thing they should do is get one I think.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 1:42 PM

Pro-lifers have a life, otherwise they would be dead. We want the unborn have the same opportunity to experience life.

What choice would you make if you were an unborn child?

You would choose life.

rukiddingme on February 22, 2010 at 2:05 PM

Obama’s a big socialist stupidhead I think.
happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 2:02 PM

How old are you, 12?

kingsjester on February 22, 2010 at 2:05 PM

Mr. Geek you never said why you think educated people have bailed on Team R at an unbelievable rate.

happyfeet on February 22, 2010 at 1:29 PM

And you haven’t demonstrated any objective evidence that that has actually occurred beyond personal anecdotes. Nor have you defined what constitutes “educated people,” or even established exactly why it’s necessarily a bad thing that they’re “fleeing team R.”

Your argument, at present, looks an awful lot like “because lots of college professor types don’t vote with team R something must be wrong with team R. Maybe we should placate the professor types by telling them it’s cool if they wanna kill the kid they made by getting @#$&faced at the faculty mixer and knocking up that cute Communications professor who doesn’t take birth control because she like, totally doesn’t like how it makes her feel.”

Blaming the woes of team R on those mean ol’ Christianists probably plays super well with the efette urbanite set, but those of us without a vested interest in pandering to the petty bigotries of adult adolescents don’t buy it.

Look. There’s a sizable cross section of Christians in politics I don’t like. Mike Huckabee and his ilk are examples. But if a belief in Christ and a principled stand on abortion on the basis of the sanctity of human life at all stages of development are going to drive away moderates, I’m simply not willing to compromise.

If they’re willing to vote the descendants they don’t kill into eternal debt slavery so they can have the right to screw without the oh-so-huge bother of getting an Rx and taking a pill then they’re not worth working to attract in the first place.

TheUnrepentantGeek on February 22, 2010 at 2:07 PM

Pro-lifers lurking in a parking lot causes you much angst, yet the killing of the unborn causes you no angst?

rukiddingme on February 22, 2010 at 2:05 PM

Apparently in the feets taxonomy or moral wrongs, annoying vagina warriors and their associates in the social sciences is a bigger deal than killing people.

So he’s got that level of moral understanding going.

TheUnrepentantGeek on February 22, 2010 at 2:09 PM

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