Reid on why we need a jobs bill: “Men, when they’re out of work, tend to become abusive”

posted at 8:51 pm on February 22, 2010 by Allahpundit

Via Drudge and the Hill, no wonder they’re calling it a rescue package. For once, there’s actually some truth to one of this tool’s talking points. Some studies do show a link between rising unemployment and domestic violence, which shouldn’t come as a surprise. The Boston Globe:

Economic stresses often lead to more frequent abuse, more violent abuse, and more dangerous abuse when domestic violence already exists. Domestic violence programs report that victims experience an increase in abuse in part because out-of-work abusers have more opportunity to batter. Rhode Island, for example, has recently seen a 25 percent increase in felony-level domestic violence crimes. Victims end up with fewer opportunities to contact programs for help, attend support groups, or get away from the batterer.

Compounding the problem, domestic violence programs face a trio of economic factors – cuts in federal funding, increased demand for services, and decreased private donations as people lose their jobs or see a downturn in their personal finances. These budget constraints make it more difficult for local programs to meet the needs of their communities.

Anecdotal reports last year from shelters and crisis centers claim a surge in victims, and needless to say, the problem isn’t confined to America. Where Dingy goes off the rails is in his trademark rhetorical sloppiness: Some men “tend to become abusive” under the strain of job loss but “men” generally do not, as far as I know, unless he wants to show us data claiming that the number of batterers exceeds 50 percent. Also, while abusive men are more dangerous than women, I’m not sure he’s right that the former outnumber the latter. According to Cathy Young, “A review of hundreds of studies, published in 2000 by British psychologist John Archer of the University of Central Lancashire, found that women are as likely to initiate partner violence as men…” If recession-related stress and money woes are shortening men’s tempers, they’re probably shortening women’s too — which, ironically, only improves Reid’s argument about the jobs bill, although he’s too captive to identity politics to try to make that point.

But never mind all that; there’ll be plenty of time to discuss it further in the next few days as the inevitable round of angry op-eds and blog posts debating domestic violence stats gets going in full swing. Here’s the real question: If passing a jobs bill is needed to rescue women (and men) in distress, then why didn’t this moron and his caucus get to work on it earlier instead of focusing on ObamaCare to the exclusion of all else?


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OmahaConservative on February 22, 2010 at 8:55 PM

BRILLIANT! Thanks for the snort.

Yellowdog12 on February 22, 2010 at 10:45 PM

The abusers need to be organized and then loaded onto buses heading for Washington. Let them take their anger out on Congress and the White House…

Karmi on February 22, 2010 at 10:45 PM

I am surprised that they are not posting something about the number of spouses saved due to porkulus on the recovery.gov website;)

dawgyear on February 22, 2010 at 10:47 PM

Quick somebody warn Harry’s wife that come Nov. she will be in danger.

la.rt.wngr on February 22, 2010 at 10:51 PM

His wife better leave now, cus hes obviously warning everyone that hes going to beat her when he loses his job next November

American Elephant on February 22, 2010 at 10:57 PM

Women and children hardest hit- literally.

Monica on February 22, 2010 at 11:01 PM

conservative pilgrim on February 22, 2010 at 9:37 PM

Probably been here a lot longer than you have. I came over with Ed when he left Captain’s Quarters.

Buford Gooch on February 22, 2010 at 11:18 PM

Mrs. Reid will be filing for a restraining order from Harry around November 5th or so.

Bishop on February 22, 2010 at 8:58 PM

Can you visualize Dingy in a wife-beater undershirt?

onlineanalyst on February 22, 2010 at 11:20 PM

Here’s the real question: If passing a jobs bill is needed to rescue women (and men) in distress, then why didn’t this moron and his caucus get to work on it earlier instead of focusing on ObamaCare to the exclusion of all else?

And why if he is so concerned with providing jobs for men in this country would one cut the bipartisan request from $85B to $15B. Seems a wasted effort overall to me, in every way. Do or Do Not. There is no “try”.

I despise Harry Reid.

Subsunk

Subsunk on February 22, 2010 at 11:23 PM

This sounds like the prototypical New York Times headline:

Men Lose Jobs, Women and Children Hurt Most.

rokemronnie on February 22, 2010 at 11:31 PM

If thats the case Reid must beat the ever loving hell out of women because he hasn’t worked a day in decades.

Rbastid on February 23, 2010 at 12:03 AM

His wife better leave now, cus hes obviously warning everyone that hes going to beat her when he loses his job next November

American Elephant on February 22, 2010 at 10:57 PM

Dang, beat me to it. Dingy’s wife must be dreading November.

WarEagle01 on February 23, 2010 at 12:08 AM

Maybe the correlation to be drawn is between Democrat presidencies and rising rates of domestic violence.

Blacklake on February 23, 2010 at 12:21 AM

Is Reid giving us a preview of his November?

Kini on February 23, 2010 at 12:39 AM

Many men are abusive because stupid, desperate women put up with it. There are surely abused men as well. Ultimately people in these relationships choose to be in them and stay in them for the most part because of their own psychological and/or emotional reasons.

What always gets me (besides the kids of course) are elderly people that are abused. Picking on the weak or the helpless is the highest form of villainy.

But, this crap happens even in a “good economy” and has been going on for ages including our beloved Greatest Generation.

Dr. ZhivBlago on February 23, 2010 at 1:00 AM

Abusive? Can you say “projection”?

Army Brat on February 23, 2010 at 1:07 AM

Come January of next year, Mrs. Reid’s going to be “falling down the steps at home” an awful lot, eh Harry?

SuperCool on February 23, 2010 at 2:22 AM

Hey!

Give me money and I won’t beat my wife, either!

[Translation: What gets rewarded gets repeated....]

Lockstein13 on February 23, 2010 at 2:41 AM

Will someone please tell me why this man is an elected official? He is insane.

afotia on February 23, 2010 at 5:45 AM

“This war is lost”. With our military in theatre. From then on anything this “party over country” sell out says is meaningless to me. He should be in jail for treason. That’s my two cents on one of the scummiest of the scummy…….

adamsmith on February 23, 2010 at 5:47 AM

According to Cathy Young, “A review of hundreds of studies, published in 2000 by British psychologist John Archer of the University of Central Lancashire, found that women are as likely to initiate partner violence as men…

That’s what I have been saying, wait, did she say something……. YES DEAR,…….. It puts the detergent into the dishwasher……..

conservnut on February 23, 2010 at 7:00 AM

AP, the Globe is a liberal rag owned by the NY Slimes and Reid’s bill will not get anyone hired.

People who are abusive require little impetus to act. Unemployment may be an excuse for some of those folks, but they’re just as abusive when they have work.

Will the abusers suddenly stop being abusive when they have jobs, like Jekyll and Hyde?

Come on folks, use your heads. This article and Dingy Harry are full of crap.

dogsoldier on February 23, 2010 at 7:47 AM

“Men, when they’re out of work, tend to become abusive”

Bay this logic the government should regulate baked beans because “Men, when they eat beans, tend to become flatulent.”

radjah shelduck on February 23, 2010 at 7:58 AM

Harry’s “projecting” again:

http://attackcartoons.com/article.php?story=20100223042426880

xardoz on February 23, 2010 at 8:06 AM

As an unemployed man, I resent Reid’s comments. Drunk yes, Abusive no. Reid is shameless, like all Democrats. Stop picking on us umemployed, get out of the way and let the economy recover on its own.

steveracer on February 23, 2010 at 8:23 AM

And I thought that women liked the ripped undershirts, liquor and cigar smells and getting the crap kicked out of themselves.

No wonder I’m single!

IlikedAUH2O on February 23, 2010 at 8:31 AM

Nevada voters should put him out of work come November and see if he’s right.

TrickyDick on February 23, 2010 at 8:45 AM

Put America back to work — Fire the Democrats.

tarpon on February 23, 2010 at 8:56 AM

Well, Mrs Reid had better watch out.

Oh by the way, what do you tell a woman with two black eyes?

You can’t tell’er nothing, she’s already been told twice.

TheSitRep on February 23, 2010 at 9:37 AM

If passing a jobs bill is needed to rescue women (and men) in distress, then why didn’t this moron and his caucus get to work on it earlier instead of focusing on ObamaCare to the exclusion of all else?

Because men tend to become abusive when the Government doesn’t control their health care, either!

/sarc

crazy_legs on February 23, 2010 at 9:38 AM

As much as I hate to admit it, that little weasel has a very good point.

Too many men going without work for too long is a recipe for skyrocketing crime…or worse. Desperate people will eventually start listening to anyone who sounds like they’ll ‘fix the problem’.

Dark-Star on February 23, 2010 at 10:01 AM

Tee hee heee.
Poor Harry Reid. Timing just ain’t his thing.

Police say the wife of pro wrestler Ric Flair has been charged with assaulting him in their North Carolina home.

In a statement, Flair called the incident an unfortunate disagreement and said he did nothing wrong.

Authorities say officers were called to Flair’s home in south Charlotte on Sunday night. Flair said his wife attacked him after they went out for dinner. He had minor injuries, but refused treatment from paramedics.

Police charged 41-year-old Jacqueline Beems with simple assault. She was released from jail a few hours after her arrest.

The 60-year-old platinum blond grappler nicknamed “The Nature Boy” is currently wrestling for Total Nonstop Action Wrestling after a long career with World Wrestling Entertainment.

Just A Grunt on February 23, 2010 at 10:47 AM

When a man and woman work at 2 different places, it keeps them beyond arms length from each other. For more than 8 hours a day. Women that abort their babies also do not spank them. It is a complex world Harry.

seven on February 23, 2010 at 11:01 AM

One of my co-workers summed it up quite nicely:

if I was Harry’s wife, I’d be extremely worried come 2011, since Harry will be unemployed

Califemme on February 23, 2010 at 12:40 PM

Does Harry know anything about “men” or “work”.

Pasty faced sissie wouldn’t know a thing about being a man or the value of an honest day’s work if it jumped up and bit him on the a$$.

We’ll see how abusive he is in January…

JohnBG on February 23, 2010 at 1:03 PM

“Men, when they’re out of work, tend to become abusive”

That’s the best he can do for his re-election slogan?

Scrappy on February 23, 2010 at 2:25 PM

Oh, why don’t you just introduce a bill outlawing the male gender?!

Pompous, misandrist horse’s ass…

ZK on February 23, 2010 at 4:17 PM

Just imagine what his wife’s in for after November

Blaise on February 23, 2010 at 5:08 PM

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